40K peak players, despite a multiplatform release, and plummeting sales. This, folks, is why Final Fantasy isn't turn-based anymore. LOL
>>750531004>40KThey promised me a CCU of over 300K! What went wrong!?
>>750531004This reminds me of the situation in the 2000s and early 2010s, where players just didn't show up, despite SE making good games.>42KRevelation will have a peak up to 300K, because it is launching on Steam this time.
rebirth peaked at 40k too... maybe they're on to something as this was cheaper to make
ban steam charts threads
>>750531423Rebirth had a delayed release.
pc market is not that big unless you either go viral or somehow get the chinese to buy it
isnt it a repurposed gacha game or am i thinking of something else
>some gacha reject HD2D shiteYeah it was the turn-based nature of it why it failed
>>750531004i have games coming out Nov 4th which is the one and ONLY reason i don't own it at launchstay mad though
>>750531357>Revelation will have a peak up to 300K, because it is launching on Steam this time.Likely even more, if the port is actually good this time. SE is putting much more effort into ports now, so my hopes are high.
>>750531065Denuvo
>>750531004kill yourself
>>75053100440k aint bad for a pixel slop FF
>>750531541The story is from the gacha, with some changes. Otherwise it's a completely new game.
>>750531004>despite a multiplatform releaseThe fuck do you mean despite, multiplat naturally means the PC player count will be lower
>>750531357Remake and Rebirth got disappointing CCU numbers because people got to see how lame the games were before they would have bought it. An actual good game can sell decently despite being a timed exclusive.
What's the excuse you have ready when Revelation peaks at 30k? "ackshually, real JRPG players just play on console"?
>>750531004The funniest thing is that these boomers and browns claimed that this kind of game is exactly what every single Final Fantasy fan wants. loooooool
>>750532891>whenThis TB unc thinks he can predict the future. kek
>>750531952>multiplat naturally means the PC player count will be lowerThis is wrong.
>>750531357>Revelation will have a peak up to 300KI can hardly wait. Even Max will be playing Revelation on PC.
>>750533389I've enjoyed Resonance a lot as well as love Remake and Rebirth. Turn based isn't bad but all these faggots wanting a 1:1 remaster of FF7 are fucking retarded.
>>750533389WITHOUT the pixel slop graphics
>>750532727>an actual good gameA game that caters to niggers and spics is not a "good game". I mean hell Madden puts those numbers out every year and the only people who play those games end up stealing the physical copies to do so.
>>750531065>What went wrongI guess the game is just too expensive for TB poors and are waiting for the 5 dollar deep sale.
>>750531357What good games were they making in the early 2010s?
>>750533389Its what I want. I don't give a fuck about anyone else.
>>750531004Higher than the FF7R games. Or FF16 or FF15.Who knows when or if ever FF has had those kinds of numbers before.
>>750534319>retard: the post
>>750534198>legend of dragoon inspired >old isn't good enough
>>750534861if the story is crap and the graphics are pixel shit yeah it aint good enough
>>750531004Why retarded steam niggers still believe only their monopoly store exists though?
Real FF fan coming throughVerdict: it's based
>>7505310047 days later and its still beating fortunes weave on the switch 2 eshop
>>750534235as opposed to a game that caters to barely anyone?
>>750535008post console sales data then
>>750535492>1.5k people playing a game that's not live service, has no DLC put out for 4 years, on a system that only got the game 2 years after it came out on PS5I know you intended this to be the "own" you thought it was but expecting a single player game that isn't out to jew you of all your money to put up 100k concurrent players 6 years after its release is pretty retarded, anon.
>>750531004Based. Every single Final Fantasy must refuse to buy this game, even if it is good. I didn't buy it myself, because I despise turn trannies.
>>750535492Remake didn't hit Steam until June 2022, a full 2+ years after the launch.Also: It is funny that this is the only cope you have left. kek
>>750535654compare the all time peak number to Resonance and FH4, that's the point
>>750535930And FH4 took 3 years after it's original release to hit Steam and has a CCU number almost twice as much as Rebirth and 5 TIMES Remake. If people actually like a game they'll buy it despite being a timed exclusive.
>>750531004Holy shit turn based combat is dead. KEK
>>750536460>>750532727Forza Horizon 4 peaked in June 2024 due to a deep discount AND the announcement that the game was being delisted, dumb ass. You are literally grasping at straws at this point, unc.
>>750531004Prediction: TB nogs will count this as a victory and continue to deny reality, even after FF Revelation blows FF Resonance out of the water.
>>750535536Give it until the end of the week and you'll get you numbers, shill.Let's hope this post of your doesn't age badly...
>>750538326They won't take the L. Not even after predicting a new "Golden Age of Final Fantasy" and a peak CCU of over 300k. ^^
>>750538190>game no longer sold for 2 years>still more people playing it right now than either Remake or Rebirthyeah let's keep embarrassing the Remake games
>>750538545>ask for console sales data>"uh, w-what about this post in another thread?!"funny how >>750538190 is saying I'm grasping at straws
>>750531357Always the same cope
>>750531004>Take mobile game>unmobile it>FlopsYawn. Let me know when FF17 (16 since they made vs13 mainline, bafflingly) is turn-based or not.
>>750538545>FFReso>Higher player count on Switch 1&2 than E33's pc port >Implying tendies buy anything other than Mario, Ubisoft Zelda, Pokemon and Animal Crossing
>>750531004Be honest bros: Is 40K enough to warrant a sequel? Resonance was a super-low budget side project, but if profit wasn't high enough, then they might not make a sequel.
>>750538912You are grasping because we literally don't have console stats yet, but you're are acting like you've already won. It'll be funny seeing your side cope if the numbers are lower than you anticipate.
>>750536460>>750538190>This game made for niggers and spics specifically sells well just like any other sports game that is recycled year after yearI'll give you this much, it's genius way to artificially win an argument by comparing two genres where one has mass appeal to low IQ monkeys and the other tends to be a niche category.
>>750536201also you didn't even address the point I made in my last post, spicnigger: but expecting a single player game that isn't out to jew you of all your money to put up 100k concurrent players 6 years after its release is pretty retarded, anon.
>>750539527>you're are acting like you've already wonWhat is there to win? S-E has been pumping out garbage just for a repurposed gacha game to become it's highest concurrent user game on Steam. If anything it's well deserved taste of humble pie. Their flagship IP shouldn't be upstaged by a spinoff in any aspect.
>>750539694>it's genius way to artificially win an argumentThe argument is that being a timed exclusive is what killed Steam sales for Remake and Rebirth but if the games were good then people would have bought it regardless of the wait time. If having to wait makes people forget about the game then they clearly weren't all that hyped for it.
>>750540105And again you're a dumb nigger for not addressing the fact that Forza is a game that appeals to niggers and spics because it's a sports game meaning there is PVP and replayability to it. What's next? You're gonna tell me Super Mario 64, if released on Steam, would be a failure because it doesn't pump out the same numbers as Fortnite?
>>750539756>put up 100k concurrent players 6 yearsYou're the only one here saying anything like that. I'm posting a game that took longer to get to Steam selling more than a game that was there quicker because people will clearly buy a game they want to play rather than one they don't.
>>750531004What does being a multiplatform release have to do with steams 40k peak?
>>750540250>Forza is a game that appeals to niggers and spics because it's a sports game meaning there is PVP and replayability to it.Then maybe S-E should get into sports games instead of making games that doesn't even appeal to their target audience
>>750540259concurrent =/= sales, you dumb nigger
>>750540409>Steam needs to get into the live service games aspect of gamingOh no no no no he's a retarded nigger now
>>750540409You are not the target audience, browncel.
>>750531004It's not a $50 game. Hell, it's not even a $30 game. I'd have grabbed it on launch at $25 but I'll just wait for a sale or never play it.
>>750540439Are you claiming Remake Intergrade or Rebirth outsold Forza Horizon 4? If so post your sources.
>>750540510Or maybe I'm suggesting that S-E needs to make games that actually appeal to their target audience, you know, like what I actually said in my post.
>>750540531Clearly not, so don't come crying to me when a repurposed gacha beats out your flagship IP
>>750539474Whatever they make from this is profitable enough when some of the assets are reused, but touched up. They likely don't even need to make or break 1mil to even consider part 2, because they already have part 1's assets to reuse for the next game. However it wouldn't surprise me if part 2 or 3 falls short of their expectations, and they shitcan the later parts because of that due to greed. I'd expect each of these would take 2 years tops to develop and it's guaranteed a good chunk of players (maybe 40% - 50%) won't stick around that long, per game, to buy the next one. Who knows if they'll even revamp the gameplay, because what other gimmicks could they add that won't make this already simplistic enough yet addictive combat from getting stale other than particle effects? Couple that with the fact whatever else releases within that time will likely draw attention away from future parts, so only time will tell how this all pans out.This is likely another 7R situation, where less and less people will care as the story goes on, but Square'll either have to push it out the door and take whatever they can get.
reminder everyone saying boomer and unc is a failure to launch mentally stunted 40 year old larping as a zoomer
>>750531004And this was after the old fags rallied and told everyone to buy the game to send Square Enix a message.... It was all for naught. This has really gotta hurt.
>>750540773Post sales, brainlet.
>>750538326How is this an L its a pixel shit game and still sold +40k>>750538682you are damn right i wont TB continues to mog non-turnbased FF.
>>750531004Kill yourself
>>750541754E33 isn't turn-based though. It is some kind of hybrid, because it has a very strong emphasis on real-time parrying.Anyway, I happy for you brainlets, that were able to follow the combat and didn't find it "overwhelming" and "confusing".
>>750541375>the oldfagshalf assed pixel slop game with mid storygameplay mechanics wise it is oldfag but visuals wise its not, at this point every oldfag fan of final fantasy is used to hyper realism beautiful graphics that we been used to since FF10
>>750541830Why are browns always so agressive?
>>750542160ok, posting another example that mogged FF then because apparently E33 is not validevery year a turn based RPG mogs FF and FF just watches from the cuckchair
>>750542210born with inferior phenotypical features and misshapen skulls, less IQ , less height and so on. deemed unattractive and have to rape.
>>750531490Yeah, and thanks to that they tanked their sales, plus the being a 3 and a half part game which most people won't show up for the next part.
>>750541731CCUs are fine for now. If other games eventually beat out Resonance in that then so be it but the fact that it even happened illustrates that S-E are finally doing something their target audience likes more than it hates.
>>750542293so retarded they had to do 3 parts, but they probs didnt wanna work on it for +7 years.
>>750542383they royally fucked up the 1st iteration of the game. Square had some serious issues around that time and FF15
>>750542383I think they should have toned down the game to have a shorter development cycle, but it's more retarded to do a 3 part game when it's well known people don't usually show up for the second part let alone the third. In a single game that costs 150 millions to make they would have made lots of money.
>>750542554I know
>>750542636what a complete depressing waste
>>750542831the whole game was gonna be city based, but they decided to make Rick & Morty in the Desert and his vacation friends
>>750531004>fun final fantasy game>contrarians on 4chan are the only ones being negative and cynical over itWhy is /v/ like this?
>>7505430824chan is majority filled with bitter millennials mad that they didn't make it. So many of them are in this thread pretending to be gen Z mocking this game it's really fucking nuts
>>750543082trannies and retards around my age who wouldn't know a decent game if it hit them in the face
>>750542291This makes sense, anon.
>>750543216Nah millenials love turn based games cant be that
>>750543082Blame the retards that won't shut up about how Final Fantasy is dead, because it isn't turn-based pixel slop or 3D block slop.
>>750543286Yes and some of them are just nutjobs pretending to be gen z.
>>750531004I think you're vastly underestimating physical sales on consoles.
>>750531004>Mangled gacha game that got EOSed repurposed into a "proper" game>Still gets those numbers
>>750542636No wonder the game went over budget. What is the point of this?
>>750531004>recycled gacha slopaMy backlog of JRPGs needs to be down to at least single digits before I even think about giving this a chance.
Resonance won BIGGLY!
>steam>for jrpgs Wat
>>750538545Tendies only play marivo zelda slop
>>750543847PC is the only platform left for weebs,
>>750543918>>750538545I bought and am playing it on switch 2
>>750542170>staggerslop>oldfag
>>750542170>at this point every oldfag fan of final fantasy is used to hyper realism beautiful graphicsNo.
>>750543082>>750543216Damn. Imagine being mad at a fun game because your life turned out shit. Why are millennials so pathetic?
>>750542170I just finished playing DQV for the first time and you're a faggot. I'd be completely fine with pixel shit because it looks good, but besides that maybe Square-Enix can stop being retarded cockgobblers who mismanage every fucking project and waste development time with proprietary engines they can't figure the fuck out. Eat shit and die, faggot.
>>750542170Graphicsfags should all be killed.
Rain is such a fucking lame protag. Probably the worst ever in the series. Literally his character flaw is that he's the nicest person in the world. Fuck off
>>750544720>be nice>slutty witches fall in love with youIt's just that simple?
>>750544720the entire cast pretty much sucks, how these fucking reviewers had the gall to say this game had good writing btw boggles the fucking mind
>>750544648You should be shot for being brown, poor and whiny.
>>750544720I mean FF is not exactly famous for having good protags
>>750545002Graphicsfags are all brown though. They need those graphics because they have no divine spark and thus no imagination. They can't look at a sprite and imagine a full woman, they need it to be a facsimile of real life.
>>750545043Only relevant ones i can think of are Cecil, Barts, Terra, Cloud, Zidane and Tidus and a big maybe on Squall and Lightining, the rest is whatever
>steamcharts
>>750533389Genshin Impact will never be a real game. You are a gambling addicted brown projecting your personal insecurities (eg: being brown) you can't fix or cure.
>>750531004Is this game just a non-gacha version of Brave Exvius?
>>750531004I'm having a really good time with it, and I'm always happy when Square does these side projects like Bravely Default, Octopath, etc... But it makes me really sad to think that there are people out there that hate turn based games. I really like them. :(
>>750545194>browns can afford 1000+ USD graphics cards, so they can indulge in graphics faggotry
>Graphicsfags are all brown though. They need those graphics because they have no divine spark and thus no imagination. They can't look at a sprite and imagine a full woman, they need it to be a facsimile of real life.
>>750531004I bought it on Switch. It's sold out almost everywhere. Key card switch 2 version still available though
>>7505430824chan is just miserable. People are leaving anyway. Not the ones you want to leave though
>>750543082It's the Mihoyo Genshinfaggots getting mad because Squeenix is finally releasing a good game in after a long while.
>>750543082loud minorityalways a bunch of whiny fags bitching when turn based games do well despite being the most popular form of game
>>750543082I miss gamefaqs bros
>one of the best JRPGs>apparently the shittiest game ever on /v/ with its final fantasy schizos
>>750531004>SteamPCissies don't play games all the players will be on ChadStation for this one
>>750531004these are amazing numbers for what really is a fucking gacha retouched to be offline
Decided not to buy when I saw Kain wasn't a vision, no Dragoon no buy.
>>750547137Switch 2 as well
>>750531004I played the demo and it is kinda boring. The animations are hype and the music is good. But the dialog is insultingly bad as is the silly story. But that's Final Fantasy I guess.It is no masterpiece like Octopath Traveler 1 & 2. Worst still they tease you in the intro with a tits fully out mommy MC and then immediately put you in charge of two admittedly fuckable femboys faggots. Unforgivable.
>>750547246>But the dialog is insultingly bad as is the silly storyEOP.>It is no masterpiece like Octopath Traveler 1 & 2.Killed hd2d before it even started. It's a miracle they even considered to make this game after all those shitty games that flopped.
I remember bait. It's not as good as I remember.
>>750545807shitskins are obsessed with shiny things to the point that they take out loans for white BMWs, graphics cards are nothing in comparison
>>750531004People saying "this is what you asked for" are delusional. Just because it's turn based means nothing if the product is shit. Traffic lights are turn based.
>>750531004Sebbynigz and his entourage of turn troons won't like this one bit. Imagine complaining for years that this is exactly what Final Fantasy fans want, only to finally be confronted with reality.
>>750547445I heard octopath 0 was really good. I'm really enjoying resonance, is 0 worth playing after this?
>>750547137
>>750547827If you like the format of Resonance you'll love 0. If you want a more fleshed out game story/character wise play 1 or 2 instead.
>>750547745Revelations will be a financial disappointment, thougheverbeit. They're pumping so much into adverts, what with all the collabs, press conferences and whatnot, that even going multiplat won't recoup the costs. Expect a flat 3mil and nothing else, which is absolutely pathetic when that was Remake's first week sales.
>>750534294Based
>playing>get to the part with Cloud vision>all those FFVII scenes/v/ I have a confession to makeI never actually beat FFVII before because I quit while trying the tedious grind for KotR
>>750531004I would imagine most people are playing this offline on a console.
>>750548154SE could sell 5 million copies on launch day (they likely will) and you would still claim that it is a flop.
>>750540634>Post your sources!Jesus christ you dense fucking nigger faggot. Let me put it to you in your own nigger language: Just because Eminem appeals to a broader audience doesn't mean Dr. Dre is shit you dumb nigger faggot.
>>750548154Not at all. The game has a budget of 1 million dora. Most of it is marketing. This engine is a game factory. They just do art, music, dialog and have an intern ramen noodle diarrhea out onto some paper. They definitely spent a solid 5mil on advertisements though lmfao. PC sales alone break even. Trust me I'm not happy about it. Now that 0 and Resonant are a financial success we're just going to get abject slop like this. No real art in it like OT1/2.
>>750548319Both Dr. Dre and Eminem are shit though.
>>750531357>despite SE making good games.name one, please, I feel a bit down and need to have a heartily laughter
>>750548657All of them, nigger faggot.
>>750531546>gacha rejectbrave exvius was super popular and the reason resonance was even made you dumb jeet. Now go play your dmc bootleg
>>750548268Completely understandable. I never beat FFX for a similar reason.
>>750531065>They promised mewho? i never once saw a prediction of even 100k let alone 300k
>>750539474I'd prefer they just made more turn-based games, doesn't have to be a sequel to Res. Four homies in a row is a formula that will never die.
>>750548742I'll admit I was expecting 70k+, and 42k is pretty disappointing.
I see why /v/ loves this game. First random NPC story you get is a lost love with Mr. Mustache. Very dramatic. Rain won't be taking anymore mustache rides from here on out. So sad.
>trannygirl repack>hypervisoryeah nah. Guess I'll just wait. Doesn't matter, I have a shit ton of other games on my backlog
>>750548268you don't need to grind to get them, if you beat ruby weapon you get a golden chocobo
>>750549009But then you need to grind to beat RubyOr ironically, KotR
>>750548313Not at all, dumb anime poster. They're just desperate after Rebirth sold poorly on PS5 and are putting all their chips on the table for Part 3.3mil would be PATHETIC numbers when that's literally just the first wave of people who bought Remake to come back for the finale, let alone being only 40% of the 7mil it went onto to make when Rebirth got announced.And don't give me that bullshit cope on Rebirth's sales, either. We don't know how much it sold, sure, but you know shit was bad when they swore off exclusivity with Sony wholesale after that.
>>750549202you don't need to grind to beat ruby you can easily cheese it
>>750531004It's not a mainline game retard
>>750545925Lil chuddy's got a point.
>>750547745No one cares about "metacritic" scores.in 2027, Max.
>>750549202You don't need to grind to beat ruby without cheese or kotrFucking game is so easy I was turning up the enemy stat mods to ridiculous levels
>>750531004How does Square keep on fucking winning while /v/ keeps on seething?
>>750549202>But then you need to grind to beat RubyUse Cross Slash
>demake fans are seething nonstop about "boomers" and resonance cc numbersso it was gen alpha and zoom zooms all along that liked the demakes huh
>>750531357>>750548313I'll look back on these posts fondly when with tears of laughter in my eyes. 7Rfags are a deluded bunch.
>>750531004FF has always been console centric
>>750534145There’s been a few of us saying this for years. Remake Trilogy has some issues (I can make an educated guess that Revelation will have its own problems) but I’ve enjoyed them for the most part. Original FF7 is still an okay game that becomes great once you add a few of the main mods on PC to it.
>>750533389how is a remake of a shitty gacha phone game remotely similar to the kind of big budget story driven systems dense rpg that main series final fantasy games used to deliver?oh wait, you’re a disingenuous faggot and you already know they’re not comparable, you just want to advertise how much you love the taste of semen with your faggot behavior
>>750531004Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see Rebirth's peak player count.
>>750549672>t.seething schizo sebbywebz
>>750549859>Retard hasn't seen all the shitting and pissing turn-based purists have been doing since Remake >Retard also hasn't seen all the shilling from said purists and shills for Resonance being a "return to form" and what "real fans" want
>>750549224>but you know shit was bad when they swore off exclusivity with Sony wholesale after that.Which is funny because even the base Piss5 version (not the Pro) will probably still be better looking than the Xbox and Switch versions, and that’s probably the version I’ll play on release because I have Remake and Rebirth on my Piss5 (could do PC but I like having the same games in a series on one console). But I wish I was a fly on the wall when the Sony execs got the news that SE were tearing-up their timed exclusivity contract because that should have had them freaking out.
>>750549982Thanks for the concession and for proving my point. See you next year!
>why arent hundreds of thousands of people playing a single player RPG simultaneously?
>>750549672Tell us how big your screencap folder is, Sebbynigz.
>>750531004I bought it on switch 1 to avoid Denuvo and own the complete game
>>750531004>despite a multiplatform release
>>750550037>the base Piss5 version (not the Pro) will probably still be better looking than the Xbox and Switch versionsI've been wondering how much effort they'll actually put into ports for Part 3 without doing just the bare minimum and calling it "good enough", although I haven't kept up with how Elliot and the like play across all consoles. Remake and Rebirth ran fine on Switch 2 from what I've heard, but that's always the case with supposed miracle ports on Nintendo's systems.
>>750531004Anon, everyone bought it on Switch. Who the fuck is buying a turn-baed pixel game on PC? PC players are 100% comprised of grafixfag casuals and brown pirates.
>>750548313>>750549982>>750550370Sebby is so upset he wasn't alive to play the OG FF7 that he has to larp as the "biggest fan" of the OG so much so that he has to devote his life making an hour and a half videos about how Red XIII's voice is a betrayal to everyone on the planet.
>>750545925>pictured: young white child who is 10x more intelligent than any brown adult
>>750550661You already posted this on the other thread and got clowned on. Fuck off.
>>750533389>final fantasy """fans""" want HD-2Dslopoctopath traveler was a mistake....
>>750550725>brown hands typed this
>>750531004This is one of those sleep sleaper hits. Once word of mouth gets around more that it's actually good, people will buy it. I know because all the physical copies are fucking sold out around my area.
>>750550801>everyone who disagrees with me is the same personI haven't posted in a Revelation thread since it came out. You're getting mad that more than one person knows you're retarded.
>>750531004>42k players and 3k reviews on steam>it has 6k reviews on psnDamn pc gamers are getting mogged by consoles. I thought pc was dominating?
>I-I swear it's not me Sad.
>>750550661ThisRemember FFI/II on GBA?Or III and IV on DS?Its always been a console centric series made even better handheld
>>750550985Steamcultists taking their charts as gospel are fucking mentally illConsoles exists you fucking cultists
Barry Won
>>750550879How is it a "sleeper-hit" if it's topping sales charts and everyone is talking about it?
Reddtbirth fags never recovered
>>750550661I sometimes buy games like this on pc though. I'm playing Octopath 0 right now.
>>750548319too bad in this analogy Remake/Rebirth would be Snoop Lion
>>750531004Still more players than Queers of war estrogen dayDidnt it cost like 300 million too
is this entire thread bots? 42k concurrent players is extremely good for a pixel turn based game that is effectively a consolidated remaster of an existing game. and they tend to sell better on Switch especially in JapanMina the Hollower's all time peak was 12k and it sold over half a million. If FFR breaks 1.5mil ish is extremely good for its budget. I haven't even bought the game and have no emotional stake in it, I didn't even play Octopath
>>750543338do you just not like 90% of the franchise
how come everyone is lapping this up and not octopath 0
>>750552135>>750547445
>>750550679>Sebby is so upset he wasn't alive to play the OG FF7 WTF he looks like he's in his mid 40s
>>750550679I thought he was like 45.
>Slant-eyed Aussie nitpicks a game>Makes leftist troons trannies rent freeTale as old as time.
>>750531004It's too expensive for a HD2D game.
>>750552773>Slant-eyed Aussie>AussieYou aren't White, Sebby, and you never will be.
>>750531004People want a high budget AAA turn-based FF like FFX not this indie-tier shitKeep being disingenuous, you twat
>>750548731>brave exvius was super popularlmao
>>750531004isn't this just a gacha turned into singleplayer
They will not be able to make a sequel to this because of how they handled the ending. It is completely changed from BE. They thought it would not sell. Square Enix continues to disappoint.
>>750531004>b-b-b bu but it's not a mainline game!!tb boomers are pathetic
If any of you fall for this shit you should honestly just slit your throat
XVI chads we won
>>750544295This looks a billon times better than every HD2D slop ever made
>>750550495From what I’ve seen the demos for Revelations at various cons have been Piss5 versions with a mix of Pro and non-Pro ones so I think the PC and Piss5 Pro will be the best versions, then followed by non-Pro Piss5. Which one between the Xbox and Switch 2 will be the worst is up in the air but I think they’ll do more than the bare minimum for those systems.
So you’re telling me that it was never about turn based at all, it’s just that final fantasy doesn’t have the cultural impact that it used to have back in the day when we were highly impressionable children? Man that's crazy
>>750531004the writing was on the wall. Remember fantasian? Uncs didn't give a crap about that game, even though it was pretty much og turn based final fantasy. It even had Noubuo's music.
With 16 mainline titles FF had a good run. Time to retire the franchise
>>750531004Sold more than your zoomer games
>>750531490Rebirth had huge advertisment
>>750554339Nope. Nice try brown boi
FF is a console series. Only fat retards would play it on Steam
>>750553568>fall for this shitby this you mean....play a video game that interests you? just want to make sure we're on the same page before i call you a worthless nigger retard.
>>750554339how about retire the normies so that we never get something like XVI ever again
>>750554772and then you'll have 10k ccu instead of 42
>>750554551Thist. Switch 1 bro
>>750554836we have 42k instead for a pixel art game with no budget because it's not appealing to normies lmao
>>750544753simple as
>this thread, game and concept of 2.5dXenogears a shit
>>750548731>brave exvius was super popularThe what now?
>>750548731>>750555759>brave exvius bombed which is why it ran for 8 years and we remade it as a standalone gamelmao indeed
>remake cucks be like 'ayo this gameplay is fire"
>>750555183>2.5dfunny how that term was memory holed
>>750556335Looks awesome. I can hardly wait to explore the area. :)))
>>750542636>>750556335>game is open world>world is completely emptyWhat's the fucking point?
>>750555858Phone fags don't play real games
>>750556382Does it have a new name now? Haven’t been paying attention
>>750554314Fantasian was once again a low budget game and was limited to Apple StoreThey should have bought Last Story though, but that came out when FF was still turn-based(FFXIII but still)
>>750554482>>750554772He's right thoughThe writing is on the wall for FFWithout an artist like Amano or Nomura nobody caresFFXVI's Game of Thrones bullshit with generic art style appealed to nobodyI don't know who you can get to succeed NomuraModern illustators are so midDragon Quest has an even bigger problem with Toriyama dying and probably Horii doesn't have much longer
>>750557121>literally directly next to Midgar>world is emptyYou are clearly retarded.
>>750555183>>7505563822.5D meant sidescroller game with 3D graphics like DKC or Street Fighter 4 you underage niggers
>>750557939DQ12 coming out is already taking a bit too long, DQ13 might as well take like 10 years or not exit at all
>>750558473DQ11 came out in 2017
>>750531004That's a normal amount of users compared to china soft power botting
>>750556335>goes into bullet time for no fucking reasonKill everyone at Square-Enix.
>>750556335Is that a fucking STAMINA WHEEL
>>750559831>botting>a singleplayer p2p game
>>750531004You're addicted to shitposting, loser.
>>750531004>40K peak players, despite a multiplatform releasethis statement makes no sense.its 40k peak players on steam BECAUSE of multiplatform release
>>750560469Chinks got time off to play the game and it was like $10 in their monopoly money. There's also a billion of them.
Still not buying FF7slop.
>>750531004I guess the TB browns that begged for this shit can't play, because the game hasn't been cracked yet.
>>750531004I'd love a 2d turn-based FF.But not a memberberries "member this character from this FF" cameo system'd refit of a mobile gacha game that feels more Octopath than FF.
>>750531004It got literally no marketing. I didn't even know it came out until I was checking out new RPG releases on Steam, and I'm the target audience.
>>750563163It was on a tendie direct albeit.
>>750563245So are 1000 farming sims. That's not marketing.
>>750532727I know it sounds like shitposting now,But unironically all they needed was big Tifa tits and fanservice to triple the numbers
>>750540531Does she want to get raped by a fat, balding ugly bastard (ff fans) or something by dressing like that?
>>750531004"HD2D" is fucking hideous
>>750548268It's like 12 races my dude.
>>750550679>Sebby>making an hour and a half videos about how Red XIII's voice is a betrayal to everyone on the planet.Is this true? lolThis was already in the original Japanese script for FF7. Just because this nuance was almost completely lost in translation doesn't mean it was never there. Japanese fans were expecting it in Rebirth, so why shouldn't it be in the English version as well? What a retard.
>>750564641Sebby isn't a serious person. His viewership spiked when he said a few bad things regarding an FF, so make it the whole focus of his channel. There's a lot of money to be made in providing opinion bias confirmation on YouTube, especially if it's negative.He tried to do it a bit on the FF Tactics remake as well but it didn't hit as hard, so back to the 7 Remake gravy train.
>>750531004Recently I was wondering where all those smaller handheld only style jrpgs I used to play disappeared to. Then I realised they all fell down the disgusting hd2d hole and I completely ignored them all.
>>750548268For all the crap SE having been showing off for Revelation I’m surprised nothing has been shown yet for KotR.
>>750531004I ignored it on principle because it's retrofitted gachaslop.
>>750531004Ok, how about Final Fantasy with non SNES graphics? This looks and play like indie game.
>>750565086Can you show me any gameplay videos of gacha rolls in this game? I really don't want to play a gacha so I'd appreciate it if you could show me that so I can avoid buying it.
>>750564931>I’m surprised nothing has been shown yet for KotR.They are probably saving it for the release trailer or some shit. They know how important it is to fans.
>>750565480they just said they ignored it on pricible, they're not going to have self-recorded videos of a game they don't have
>>750565521There's a little known site called youtube that should have gameplay footage on it. Can he (you) check there and show me any gacha rolls in the game, please?
>>750565558i didn't make the claim, and it sounds like you know exactly how to check for whatever you're looking forwas just pointing out you were asking for something retarded
>>750565581I'm simply asking him (you) to show me the presence of gacha rolls in this game so I can avoid buying it. That seems perfectly reasonable since he (you) seems so certain that it's gachaslop. Obviously he (you) must have seen some gacha mechanics in gameplay footage somewhere.
>>750531004its not like we are a growing demographic lil bro
>>750565620why do you need someone else to do that for you when you directly stated the site you'd need to look for?i have no dog in that. i was just pointing out it was retarded for you to have asked someone for video when they just stated they didn't get it.
>>750531004I know nothing about this title, but saw few threads on the front page about the breast size of this girl. what was that about?
>>750531004And they are right.FF7 reboot dogshit was the last breath of a dead direction
>>750531004It's a still just a gacha game. In 2,5hd. Fuck them.
>>750533389This. But 20 years ago.
>>750531929>storythe art, characters and combat design ISN'T from the gacha? it's all, ground up, completely brand new and original assets?
>>750531004"unc" here, we don't want this mobile garbage repackaged into a piece of shit with a bow on top
>>750565891She has BIG BOOBSSomeone made edits of her with EVEN BIGGER BOOBS and used it to shill the game. I think it’s not needed, her BIG BOOBS are big enough. They even jiggle as she walks in the pixel art. This is Dark Fina. I like the BIG BOOBS mod for normal Fina though. And also Sakura who is a lolibaba.
>>750553487God, who wants a sequel of this?It would be objectively the best thing to make the next one directly tailored to a single player game instead of gacha shit.the story is beyond dogshit, way worse than fire emblem engage, easily the worst thing about the game.
>>750531004>caring about simultaneous players on single player games>caring about Steam specific stats that do not count consoles
>>750531004Isn't this a gacha game? Call me when they make a new FF.
>>750565480I didn't say there are gachaslop rolls in this game, I said it's a retroffited gachaslop.I honestly don't care if you buy it or not, sounds like you know where to check for for what you're looking for yourself. Cheers. :)
>>750566264Can you show me gameplay footage of gacha rolls in this game please?>>750566295Characters are part of the story. Unless you mean their gameplay mechanics which are completely different because the combat is completely different. And yes the art is new too. All the assets are new. Sprites look similar but are remade in higher resolution and animated.
>>750566539How is it retrofitted gachaslop and why is that bad? Can you even describe your thoughts here?
Was Barry right, /v/? Has mainline FF really been that much of a failure?
>>750566536Is it a gacha game? Can you please show me some footage of gacha rolls in this game?
>>750566605If I had to guess, they call it a gacha slop because it's based on a mobile gacha game. "Retrofitted" is self-evident.Can't speak to anything else they said.
>>750566629they were asking if it was, you mental giant>Isn't this a gacha game?
>>750566646You seem very interested in speaking on behalf of someone you keep insisting isn't you. Why is that?>it's based on a gachaBased on? But explicitly not a gacha? Could you explain what's wrong with it then?
>>750566605Because it's based on a gacha.At no point did I say it's "bad", I implied I don't like that, these are two different things, if you weren't aware. :)
>>750566690That's what we here in the English speaking world call a rhetorical question. He's not actually asking, hence why he implied that it's not a real FF in the same sentence.I am asking though. Is it a gacha? Can you show me footage of the gacha rolls?
>>750566739? I was answering the most obvious parts of your post.I can't read their mind on why they think "it's wrong".
>>750566780It's based on a gacha. But it's not a gacha itself? So what's actually wrong with it?
>>750543082OP is a mentally ill faggot that shaped his entire existence around the remake series being a success and got mad over being BTFO in the other thread. Before Resonance released he did the same shit he does with other games he thinks can "endanger it", doompost about it
>>750566785they didn't say it was you illiterate buffoon.why are you asking them for footage if they are asking? just tell them instead of being a faggot redditor
I have tranime fatigue.
>>750566739>>750566785Why are you being such a weird faggot? It's not "well ackshually" reddit here, speak like you're capable of rational thought.
Gacha adjacent
>>750566785It's evidently gacha on the writing. There's more wrong with gacha than just rolling.
>>750566834He did say it was. The English contraction "isn't" is a shortened "is not". So his sentence actually reads:>"Is this not a gacha?"This is a statement in the form of a question, posited to welcome in debate and proof to the contrary. I understand this is confusing for you because you're Pakistani and only know mutt English from browsing twitter, so consider this a learning experience.
>>75053135762k max
>>750566884I'm just asking you to show me footage of gacha rolls in this game. Is there something wrong with that?As an aside, is there a reason you keep replying on behalf of anons you insist are different people?
>>750566834If its not Gacha then its not gacha you fucking faggot, what do you think gacha actually means?
>>750566926>gacha is a feeling, it can be anything, just like my gender
>>750566979Anon, I literally just responded to you right there because you're being fucking weird. I haven't been "keep responding on behalf of others."Contain your autism a tad and speak like a human being.
>>750566820I have no interest in this game because it reuses content designed for a gacha, that's all there is to it. Well, that and I'm not really a fan of hd2d style to be fair.I'm not criticizing the game, I'm not pretending to know more than I do, I'm simply explaining why I have no interest in it, directly responding to what was said in the op. I don't really understand why you have such trouble with that.
>>750566942>this question is not a questionbraindead
Gacha game design
>>750567027You're the only tranny around here, having a meltdown because people are bringing up how this is a repurposed gacha game.Fine gameplay, decent animations, terrible writing and characters directly because it was originally a gacha. It's that simple.Keep barking while any reasonable person still around this thread can see you for the ball of seethe that you are.
>>750531004>40K peak players, despite a multiplatform release>despite a multiplatform releaseAre you retarded? How do these two arguments even fit together? 40k is only for Steam. Are you still mad this game has more players than Debirth?
>>750531004They should have never did the member-berry shit and bring back old FF characters. It's fucking retarded. This game could have stood by itself but god forbid FF fans ONE fucking game without their precious femboy, Cloud.
>>750566993i'm not the one who said it was a gacha, faggot.i'm pointing out the other anon is being a dumbass and asking for something when they literally was just asking themselves.
>>750567053Yeah yeah you're habitually replying to every post asking for proof of gacha mechanics because you're just a random bystander. Why is that though? Could you explain why you've decided to bravely defend these other anons who strangely go quiet and don't defend their own points as long as you're posting?
>>750567027KekBodied that tranny freak
>>750538545lol that's my post
>>750567127You know it's a video game and not netflix, right?
>>750567161>every postI literally just said...Okay. You're too autistic for me to try to wake you up enough to stop being a faggot.Faggot on or whatever you need to do
>>750531490>>750554452so a higher budget game which even got delayed has the same numbers as a 2D-HD game inspired from a mobile gacha... cool
>>750531004>still mogs Remake slop which has 10x the budget
>>750567095Yes. That's correct. That's what a rhetorical question is. If I said>Are you not gay?I'm not actually asking. I'm calling you gay and inviting you to prove me wrong. Don't post on my website until you learn my language, Paki bitch.
>>750531004isn't this some phone game cobbled together
>>750567245Funny how Demaketroon thinks making this thread is a win LOL
>>750567127Nah, there's another tranny having a meltdown claiming everyone is one person because he hates that this was based on a gacha.
>>750531004This is that gacha dogshit, right?dunno why /v/ is hyping it up, then again, /v/ is just gacha central now lol
That's pretty successful for a mid-tier title on one platform.Not sure why Ranjesh is trying to bash this clearly good FF game.
>>750539204>Mobile game flops>Unmobile it>Still flopsI'm shocked
>>750531004>"We're going to make a new 2D final fantasy!">Look inside>HD-2D, I could put up with that sure>Look more>Pachinko machine tier 3D animations playing in battles and the whole premise of the game is nostalgia-fagging every other FF game with obnoxious summons that completely destroy ANY semblance of story or intrigue the game could have because old FF characters are just jumping around everywhereFUCK OFFFFFFF STOP IT JUST MAKE A GAME WITHOUT NOSTALGIA FAGGORTY! MAKE A GENUINE HEARTFELT FF-LIKE GAME WITHOUT SHOVING CLOUD FUCKING STRIFE INTO IT! REEEEEEEEEEE!!
>>750567298you're legitimately retarded kek
>>750567337Because he is mad people like this more than Remakeslop.
>>750531004That's still a ton for people for a reused gachaslop.
Yoshit-Piss in shambles, Barry won once more
Why is this autist so mad it's a remade gacha game? There's a graveyard of dead gacha games that would make fine single player games if companies repurposed all those assets and stories into a single player package. It's a good idea by SE and more should do this for preservation's sake alone.The tragedy of a lot of gacha games is that they do have good gameplay foundations and storylines but are hamstrung by all the gacha trappings. Strip those away and make proper games out of them and you got a winner.
>>750567349Yeah like how in Persona the story makes no sense because your character just has a ghost of Cinderella floating behind her in battle.
>A LOT of gacha games>good gameplay foundationsdamn this nigga is delusional
>>750567518It's the only avenue of attack he has left and he's decided he will be the dedicated schizo for this game.
>>750567435Barry can't win. He's one of the biggest losers currently alive, alongside the other FF schizo.
>>750567552Yes.Don't do the passive aggressive pussy indirect reply shit by the way. It makes you look like a homo.
>>750531004>40K peak players, despite a multiplatform release>posts steam numbers onlykek
>>750567576Barry's had nothing but victories ever since FF16 was sprayed out of Yoshida's asshole.
>>750567626His existence is one perpetual loss simply because it's him. He himself will never feel victory because in his mind there's an eternal war and conspiracy against FFXV and those involved are always out there plotting.
>you look like a homo!!t.gacha tranny
>>750567576>the other FF schizoThere are numerous others. Like Jimbo the browncel and Pawel the Polack.
>>750567626Even 16 was better than 15 by a long shot, and Barry will never forget that
>>750567518The reason why gacha are profitable is because of shameless FOMO abuse. To release a repurposed gacha as a single player game would be to send the following message:>If you're patient enough then you can enjoy the entire game without FOMO or being nickled and dimed at every opportunity.Gamers would wise up and not buy into FOMO in the first place thus rendering FOMO/Gacha business model unprofitable. Perhaps crazy conspiracy but I'd imagine Square is getting a lot of serious phone calls from other companies for breaking rank.
>>750567709Mam na imię Dariusz ty kutafonie!
I won!
>>750567685Barry is trying to find the culprits that pushed for the cancelation of the last FFXV DLC, to this very day. kek
>>750567870>the last FFXV DLCwait there was going to have another DLC?
>>750567518>there's a graveyard of gacha games with good gameplayName them, I'd have no issue looking around for videos and so on.
>>750567939Yeah but SE outright cancelled it and announced its cancellation as well as any further planned DLC.
>>750567939Yep. Even the release of level editing tools was cancelled. Barry has been in mega schizo mode ever since.
>>750567939After Ardyn DLC there was supposed to 3 more for Lunafreya, Aranea and Noctis. There was some falling off in SE where whatshisface left and the ending was turned into a novel instead.
>>750566337I see, thanks.
>>750567870>find the culprits that pushed for the cancelation of the last FFXV DLCSo Suare Enix? The devs team moved on to work on forspoken.
It's over... I lost...
>>750531004Action chads win again
>>750568263Now let's compare ROI.
>>750534145>but all these faggots wanting a 1:1 remaster of FF7 are fucking retarded.Kill yourself
>>750568263I never had any doubt. :D
>>750568309There's no point in a 1:1 remake. Just play the original. It already exists.
>>750568309new one is better, it makes me not wanna watch tiktok videos while playing
>>750568309>left is fine>right is betterWhat exactly is your problem?
>>750568386>>750568439>>750568456>1 minute apart
>>750568778I don't think you know how posting works.feel free to say I'm a samefag too btw.
>>750542160The thing with E33 parrying is that it is honestly telegraphed with consistent animations, frame windows and audio ques and even then you can still opt out from it by using picto combo of Energising Pain + Defensive Mode. When people complain about action combat, their beef is mostly with sucker punch game design where a giant fat ogre doubles up as a ballerina and somehow manages to make a 360 degree turn on a single leg during his wind-up animation. Another example is this video: https://youtu.be/-mOGJwXKqOo?si=RG3XXDcom4sHdA9J I guess the mob had some rancid Caelid berries for breakfest and now his sphincter doubles up as a jet exhaust that allows him to change direction mid-ar. Throw in the usual input reading, frame trapping and other cancer game designs and you can probably see why people are sick and tired of action combat. >but anon! Not all action combat games are like this!You're right! But it doesn't matter because the most prolific ones are like this which makes people mentally check out.
This is pretty much a guaranteed buy for me once I have some time, just based on the fact it has a job system alone
>>750531004honestly who cares what steamie trannies play?
>>750568854i feel what's inconsistent about souls games is that enemies don't work with the same "stamina restriction" as you and they can just spam whatever +10 hit combo they want without any worry of "oh no, now i have to recover"
>>750569042Cared enough to respond :)
>>750568854https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj6JbgMdrZo
>>750531004Redditbirth btfo again lmao
>>750568386Then there’s no point in remaking an old game if you want to do something new. Just make a new FF if you want to try new things. The thing is, without Cloud, Tifa, Aerith, and Sephiroth, nobody would give a shit about the garbage story they came up with for the Remakes.Replace these characters with some new ones and keep the story just as multiversal cringe garbage as they made it in the Remake, and see how that goes. The Remake only gets by on OG moments, while everything it does in its own way is just shit.
i played the demo and after viewing the visions realized that i just don't care about final fantasy any more
stillbirth bros... we haven't lost, have we?
>>750569181no one even cares about the story, its just shipwarring, even the theories regarding the time slop are built around the ships people have
>>750569181A new game is a new game whether the story is a retread or not. That's what I care about, having a new experience. I'm not the one asking for remakes but if we have to get them then they should be something new and different. Otherwise why not just play the original game? You're wanting to wait decades to play a game that already exists? Why?
>>750569330>You're wanting to wait decades to play a game that already exists? Why?I wanted a version of FF7 that isn't t*rn based and got exactly that
>>750569325True, Remake fans are just coomers, fujoshis, and straight-up fucking idiots.
The real thing is that it absolutely destroyed Castlevania. An action rpg that is about as famous and has a popular western cartoon. It quite literally won. SE is back on top baby.
>>750569330Technology, you dumb fuck. When your favorite game gets remade using technology that’s over 20 years newer, a lot of things could be improved. But they couldn’t do shit with it and only made things worse.
>>750569330You should play og FF7 to completion before playing the remakes.The seemingly nonsensical Sephiroth cutscene in the first hour of remake hints you that.
>>750569061There's that as well. When I played through Elden Ring I constantly had this weird gut reaction where the game was deliberately designed around punishing instinctive reactions people would naturally have.
>>750569586Older games are objectively more complex and satisfying though. What does this nebulous 'technology' offer? Besides if it's a 1:1 remake then nothing changes and again there's no reason to remake it since it has already existed for 30 years.
Looking back on the plot now that I'm going through chapter 6, chapter 4 has been the low point of the game for me so far. I'm not really vibing with the party member's gimmick so he's permabenched, I wasn't that interested in the final boss of the chapter and it's stuck between chapter 3 that had better highlights and chapter 5 were the game opens up and you start getting a bunch of plot reveals.
>>750531004>de-gacha means it was built using the foundation of something souless>2D-3D(tm) art style I personally dislike a lotThe only way I would ever play this is if you can recruit some of the non-human characters like vivi, freya, red xiii and play exclusively as them. Otherwise I'm good.
>>750569797Ch4 exists to wrap up loose ends before moving onto the Sworn Six stuff.
>>750569740>Older games are objectively more complex and satisfying though.Not the case for FF7. You can auto attack your way through the whole game.
>>750569882You can but you're not going to have a lot of fun doing it.
I'm interested. There are just too many games out there.
>>750569882So you don't want a 1:1 remake then?
>>750569740Right, so what could possibly explain why fans wanted a FF7 remake back in the PS2 era, and why speculation went through the roof after they showed that PS3 tech demo? Surely they wanted FF7 with alternate universes, Cloud acting completely OOC and talking to his sword about dreams and honor, Sephiroth behaving like he walked straight out of a yaoi fanfic, and Aerith’s death being turned into a complete fucking joke. That’s exactly what they wanted, right? They wanted a FF7 remake and got a spiritual successor to Crisis Cringe.
>>750569923For sure. I seem to recall the materia system being more in depth in OG but I don't really care if the game doesn't pose much challenge for me to exploit.And I've never cared for chocobo breeding desu.
>>750531004This will still turn a profit because HD-2D games are made on a shoestring budget.
>>750570234Damn, sounds like vidya publishers should focus on smol games and release more of them, instead of gambling on giant projects that cost $500M
>>750569325if rebirth and revelation were KH games, the fanbase would be having actual legitimate discussion on what could happenmeanwhile not a single living soul in the FF7 community cares about glenn despite them trying to build up his ass
Waiting for a sale honestly Who the fuck buys games for full price on steam?
>>750570679The people who actually fund vidya studios
>>750569532Both of those games are of a scale and genre which do well on Switch though. They probably both did fine, but I'd bet Konami had unrealistic expectations for BC while SE has had their expectations for their smaller titles in check for a while now.
>>750559896>>goes into bullet time for no fucking reasonthe reason is to aim where to air dash
>>750570410You must have missed the hundreds of Rebirth discussion threads on /v/, but that's ok.
I will get it eventually but as a 42 year old dad of 2 I have little time to play, it took me 1.5 years to finish rebirth and I'm now with E33 (at least I'm on Act3 cleaning content), and I have Death Stranding 2 on queue after, so I guess I will play this at arround 2028.
>>750531004Choosing turn-based combat over ATB was a put off for me but I do love me some big tiddy witches.
I need to vent a bit about "ff fans". I consider myself one but I actually played all the games. FF1-16. Some others too. These faggots larp as if SQEX hasn't made a turn based rpg in decades when we had bravely default, numerous ports, Dragon Quests, Romancin Saga, Octopath Traveler and most recently and thats the one that triggers me the most Sakaguchis FANTASTIAN released on Steam. Nobody bought Fantasian. This is all larp by so called fans but they do it for clicks on twitter. None of them ever played any of the games in resonance. Then there are these faggots that shit on 16 and 7R. When real fans can enjoy them too without acting like a nigger for clickbait.It's getting really exhausting following any kind of public opinion on things since none of these npcs have an opinion of their own and will always adapt buzzwords or bullsit some dipshit streamer spouted.
>>750531004>Despite a multiplatform>ONLY posts steam homosexual erper hours
>>750569225Yes. Get fucked.
>>750548268Yeah I get it. Fuck that shit
>>750572407Even ATB is too confusing and overwhelming for the simpletons of today. kek
>>750572683Wow this looks so fucking badIf they remake VI they have to do 2d or at the very least hd2d and keep the ATB
>>750572531>Dragon Quests, Romancin Saga, Octopath Traveler and most recently and thats the one that triggers me the most Sakaguchis FANTASTIAN released on Steam.I'm not playing any of that weeaboo crap. I want turnbased FF
>>750572787You don't even know what that means
>>750572770>I can't afford a PC or even a PS6>>Oh no no nook
ff7 remake you need luma to let you use dlssso many games are said to be better than ff7r until you try it yourself and be utterly disappointed e.g first light and re9
>>750572925>playing jrpgs on a PC????
>>750573009Yes.
>>750573009Of course on PC.
>>750573009we arent in the 2000s or 2010s anymore
>>750572683no time jannies?
>>750572683I know it's AI but it looks pretty gud. I'd play that.
>>750568263>Alinea AnalyticsUnless Xbox and Playstation release their numbers, everything is just guesswork.
>>750574115there they are!
>>750567709Jimbo's been working overtime to outdo Barry. It's impressive how much of a loser he is.
>>750572531Fantasian is censored compared to the original mobile release though. Thanks SE
>>750568386>There's no point in a 1:1 remakeJust think of it like a book. They reprint new versions of the same book multiple times, usually adding something new, better covers, better prints, illustrations, but without changing anything about the content itself.The same should be for video games. There would be no point in reprinting a book if the new version altered significantly the original story. It wouldn't be the same book at all, more like a fanfic of the original.
>>750574251Hopefully, we will able to play games that are coherently being entirely generated on the spot.
>>750574404>there they are!Based. I love these little niggers.
>>750534198
>>750575960>Profoundly broken VS profoundly blandWhat a time to be a gamer
>>750534861Then why doesn't it look like Legend of Dragoon or the PS1 FFs?
>>750533389The funniest thing is seeing different versions of your comment on every franchise because you idiots invent a fictional opinion some demographic doesn't really have and then laugh at it.
>>750576418for some reason no one can make a game that actually looks like ff9 or chrono cross
>>750531004>grew up playing the classic ff games from the ps1 era>never heard of this ff game before>check it out >indie pixel art shit
>>750575263You have both options. What is the problem.
>>750576776the funniest thing is seeing uncs moving goalposts everytime their talking points are debunked
>>750577745no one is going to play something that looks like this in 2026
>>750577916turn based combat veterans know when it's their time to move the goal
Is the game any good, I didn't know it existed until recently. It being a repurposed gacha game makes me incredibly wary
>>750578023Not my fucking problem normalfags are such graphixwhores
>>750578372oy vey nuff with the gatekeeping
>>750578023But I would and I am?
>>750578548SHAREHOLDER-SAMA GET DOWN!
>>750565891She had bigger boobs in the promo material than the final game. SQenix ethics department strikes again
>>750577745The problem with your argument is that it assumes that different options have similar values.Here is an example for you. "We should allow government to have an actual nazi party." It's just more options, right? It's not like the existence of another option could ever be considered detrimental.And yes, I do believe that the existence of FF7 remake is a net loss, and it not existing is better than existing.
>>750575263>Buy book>Still have book 20 years later>Look at this NEW shiny book that's the same book, spend money on this book again for no logical reasonMaybe I'm just a miser, but I cannot fathom, for the life of me, why I would buy a book I already own because it has a new cover on it.
>>750531004Unc here. I didn't ask for more soulless pixelslop. Try again
>>750570679your better off watching steam key sites
>>750560469>p2pchinks make their own keys via tencent partnerships. those "copies" are free botted copies.
>>750580980I replayed Chrono Trigger from zero because it had cool cutscenes.We are not the same.
>>750531004What are you expecting the player count of a 2d pixel rpg to be exactly? What would you consider good? Keep in mind SE isn't the top dog of the rpg industry anymore, and haven't been for like 20 years. We are literally inundated in pixel art rpgs and other genres. There are thousands upon thousands of games to play these days. And that number will only grow with time. Most people have backlogs that will last them years. The only big IPs that seem to draw people out of the backlog stupor are Resident Evil and GTA. Someone feel free to list more if applicable.
>>750580980You are thinking of a remaster. A remake would be akin to the book only existing in the dusty version with pages falling apart and it's impossible to carry it around without being a nuisance.If you wanted to relive that book, would you want the new version to be just like original, but improved, or a fanfic based on the original?
>>750581198Then the analogy doesn't fit then. This "remastered" book doesn't have cut scenes. Now if I buy a book, and twenty years later they output a new version that gives you handjob while you read it, might be a better analogy but it still has nothing to do with why you'd buy a book you've already read that added nothing of value to it on re-release.
>>750531004>gachaslop>uncsWat?Zoomies are the ones who love this chink shit, nobody in my generation was ever going to touch it.
>>750581462>buy book>take care of book for 20 years>book still works fineUltimately the only way your version of things would work is if your copy of FF7 didn't work any more and you had the choice of buying the old version again, or a newer version. Again, I argue, if you had a book that was still in working condition why would you buy the same book with a shiny new cover?
>>750531004Only boomers enjoy turn based games
So what the hell happened to the ice knight? The real one. Is it going to come up before the game ends or is it a plot line of later seasons of the gacha?
>>750580959I did not say they have similar values. They are different therefore they have different values. If one is better than the other then the consumer can decide, it is not Square's job to decide for them, the consumer can dictate the direction through their participartion. Your current argument might have more effect if Square tried to brainwash people or make the original unavailable, but they have not. Anyone can still purchase either one and decide. Politics is a different story as they actively try to influence opinion in terms of one side versus another. If they didn't, and people freely voted for a certain party, the cause is the people and societal influences which led to that event.
>>750531004I'm not buying gacha shit with cameos of other FF protagonists, makes it feel cheap.
>>750581462But in this case both versions of the book are available and if I have the dispensable income to buy both, I will and make my own decision.
>>750582210but you will spam this board endlessly for inane reasons
>>750531004its a single player RPGunless its expected to be some seriously life-changing experience why the fuck would I buy it at launch for full release price when I have other stuff I'm happily playing right now?I can get this 2 years from now on a steam sale for half the price or less, denuvo will be gone, and will have any relevant dlc or updates by then. Additionally any modding scene to improve the game will have had time to cookThere is almost no reason to ever buy a single player game at launch unless its really that good
Squeenix blows. Their goodwill is over for me.
>>750582110>in a vacuumNothing exists in a vacuum. For the Remakes to exist, time and money were needed. New players were brainwashed into thinking that the remakes were 'as good if not better' than the originals.Remakes existing have costs and problems tied to them, just like political parties. So no, more choices are not always better, in many cases, they are a detriment more times than not.
>>750547745Sebby never wanted a 2DHD title and compared this one to Bravely Default, Fantasian, Octopath, etc. Low budget titles with some nods/elements to some FFs, but still lacking.Still more successful than Remake and Redditbirth. Cope, you FAILED
But how hot are the girls
>>750585808They all learn Firaga
>>750587376I prefer Flare
>>750572531>bravely default, numerous ports, Dragon Quests, Romancin Saga, Octopath Traveler and most recently and thats the one that triggers me the most Sakaguchis FANTASTIANcan you post proof of your ownership of these games
>>750582009It's not answered. If it ever gets answered in the gacha, I don't know.
>>750531004>40K peak players, despite a multiplatform releaseSame as FF7 Rebirth; which had the momentum of an AAA-release behind it, whereas this had zero marketing pull.And double that of FF7 Remake - Intergrade.You are a clown.
>>750581537Can you show me footage of gacha rolls in this game? I don't want to play a gacha, so if you could find some footage for me I'd greatly appreciate it.
Now that the honeymoon phase is over, give it a rating.Id say 6/10.
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>>750564796It's Squeenix's forced branding
>>750531004its uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBGrNHvxVI
>>750596389buy an ad. Nobody gives a fuck about that literal who.
