Should Dragon's Dogma be more high fantasy like Dark Arisen and Online, or more grounded like 2?
>>750515353How is 2 more grounded?
>>750515570It doesn't have anything like fighting monsters from hell in dark arisen or floating cities like in OnlineI just really needed an excuse to start the thread
>>750515353Grounded. Also why does the Norgan scarf show special skills but you cant see what they are? Is it bugged?
>>750515745Leather Throat Guard is what I mean
>>750515353Sex with the Sphinx (after marriage)
need a mod that puts monhun monsters in 2
Have you rented the new pawns yet, anon?
>>750516861the only official pawn i ever had me follow is rook and probably a sphinxmother/father/parent
>>750516861>unwritten epic>finish the game>the epic is indeed unwrittenWhat did capcom mean by this
>>750515686I need to play DDO again. That was one if the best RPGs I've ever offered l played. I really liked how you levelled up the zones
>>750516861Where is synthetic man in this pic?
>>750516861>MaximilianDoodMay allah forgive me for knowing this but I swear this faggot was part of the e-celeb pawn line up on release so why is he here again
The worst thing about 2 are the side quests. These are somehow even more dull than the ones in the first game.
>>750516861literally who
So, why was the ur dragon like that
>>750515353What a stupid question
>>750517507Because despite the shit design, 1 at least had fun characters. 2 has extremely boring characters, both in design and personality.
>>750517661a million cycles without pussy does that to any arisen
>>750517674Explain why
>>750517339Without looking at what his pawn is, I'm assuming it's because each of these e-celebs were offered to either use the pawn from their save file updating as they play, or have Capcom create one with their name on it at some round level (20/40/60 etc). Max must've took the latter, lazier option, and now it was updated for Norgan
>>750516861What is even the point of these? They’re always low level and shit.
>>750518089don't official pawns level with you?
What's the point of that treasure-finding dog? You get a shitton of relics and consumables normally anyway.
>>750518135He cute :)
He'll be okay. I think.
>>750518228he a she, dumbass
>>750518380She cute :)I was thinking of her pup for some reason
>>750516861Who are those? Am I supposed to know them?
>I wonder, how will you fare in this world without my help aris-ACK
>playing "pure" Warrior hard mode>quest to find the hidden library for the scholar>going through the mire looking for the hookshot point at night>find it, aim the shot>somehow ganked by two fucking norgan chimerae at once for whatever reason>one of the most fun fights I had in this game despite goats going apeshit near death and eating a couple of meteorons due to animation lock>actually had to use healing and a wakestone while trying to revive stupid pawns>finished the last one using Arc of Might10/10, had a blast.
>warfarer mods
>>750518740arisen, what's with the bottle in your room at the inn? there's a tiny man-doll in some kind of liquid in it. is this some kind of hex/charm?
>>750518751It's still not ideal for me. I tried making a magick archer like in DD1 with daggers and bow, but having to use Rearmament to access the dagger dodge fucking sucks. I miss being able to press R1+X anytime anywhere to dodge like in 1
I like the groundedness but I do think they should pepper in more high fantasy stuff within reason. The map layout and its features is pretty dull, but the rendition of them is pretty good as far as visual accuracy and care.
Spundtrack mods?I hate the goblins/harpies/saurians battle ost in base game
>>750515353I think both DD games are firmly high fantasy, and the series should stay that way.>>750517507I haven't seen anything in 2 worse than the notice board "quests" in 1.>>750517702I'm playing through DD2 for the first time right now, and the lack of any particularly interesting characters is one the things that has stood out to me. There hasn't been anyone as memorable as Madeleine, Mercedes, Julien, the jester, etc.I think the hate for the game is overblown in some ways, but the movement and environments also seem like a downgrade.
>>750519715>The hate for the game is overblownI don't think it is. For the record I enjoyed the game. And it's obvious that capcom pushed it out early for their fiscal year. But it still had 5 years of development and a higher budget. So how is it only a sidegrade (at best) to DD1?
>>750519916This.The hate stems more from the postrelease shitsthow that was the rushing debacle + microtransactions.The fact the game was disappointing and DD1.5 wasn't the biggest reason for the hate.
>>750518740This makes me wonder, what happens if you put the pathfinder in the cumjar when he is standing next to the griffin? Thats like the only time he doesn't initiate the dialogue on his own iirc
>>750519715There were tons of notice board quests that were actually quests, that's half of why most players miss quina's questline entirelyAnd 2 does have procgen slop too, through those unvoiced high affinity npc requests
>>750517339He's Capcom's goodest little goy so he gets extra privileges
>>750515353the sphinx is cute as fuck
>>750516861No I never touch those and if I ever see one in the wild im throwing it in the brine.
>spartan guys connected to the brine>also connected to the demons>specifically set up elaborate tests to beef up a seneschal, or someone who sequence broke the cycle like us>only reward for finishing them is pathfinder heaping tsundere praise on you for having the potential to end the cycle(not that he wants you to or anything, b-baka)My biggest fear is that this is all accidental and they didn't realize they solved the base game's plot holes
>>750519715>notice board "quests" in 1Let's not pretend those count as side quests. They're only for making extra money. The actual side quests in 1 are a separate thing entirely.
>>750520678>also connected to the demonsWere they? I don't remember seeing anything greek in norgan
>>750519715That's my main criticism of the game: there are very few memorable characters, the plot meanders for too long before something interesting happens and the music is a downgrade from the original. Everything else about DD2 is either a sidegrade (once you get used to it) or an actual upgrade.>>750516861The only official pawn I may ever use is /ourgirls/ Chonk Lord. I don't know who these people are and don't care to know.>>750519620https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1169?tab=description
>change pawn from Fighter to Warrior just to farm augments>she becomes even more retardedTried a few Sorcerer pawns from the Rift, but no luck so far. What pawn is good for DPS in the DLC?
>>750520815The primary reward of all the pre-unmoored rites is the flames that unlock the obelisks in norganEvery one of those obelisks entirely dedicated to making (You) and only (You) stronger does so because the demons imprisoned the souls of skilled warriors inside them, waiting to be offered the flamesWe were played like a fiddle, either we succeed, or pass the buck to a future cycle or another world, and either way da devil gets stronger just by our interference in his fucked up fake bizzarro cycle
>When your cheeky pawn catches a glimpse of your BWC (Big Warrior Cock)
>>750516861Can they get dragonAIDS?
>>750517213What are the current options to play it? Private servers?
>>750520678It also opened up some plot holes>All the former arisen kept their power but not their pawns>Lamond, Sigurd, Dragonforged, Oracle and the elf archer are all alone>Somehow rovall loses his arisen status but keeps Eir anyway
>>750515570didn't they remove this from the latest expansion for 2? fucking cucks
>>750521281>The current state of affairs is heavily influenced by the rancor>It somehow managed to manipulate the cycle and simplified it to dragon-arisen without the seneschal>As disdain for this cycle grows, so does the demons powers>The pathfinder is actually a demonic overseer ensuring the cycle is set up in a way that makes everyone involved hate it It's not what you said but this would've been too much of a decent twist. Itsunovision intended for our expectations to be subverted, sorry chud
>>750520678Did they? There's still at least one>Drakes are past Arisen who failed and dragon-ified>but it's pawns who get dragon cancer and turn into drakesThey even added more confusion in Norgan, where both Fimbls and Lesser Demons are Arisen who lost hope in the world order.Do they explain what determines which one you turn into? Rovall turned into a dragon because he was cursed by the demons, not for any reason that makes other arisen transform.And somehow becoming a demon or a dragon turns you into some sort of pseudo-pawn, that lets you travel to different worlds through the rift. That's a whole can of questions too.
>>750517065>sphinxmother/father/parentWhat are those?
>>750521513Yes, seeing as COG was shut down.
>>750522125pawns with this name. i think they're capcom pawns. maybe some arisens called their pawns that, too, for whatever retarded rreason
>>750522125They are the solution for this amazing thought provoking sphinx riddle where you have to present the sphinxs parent to her. Which is of course a pawn called SphinxParent
>>750522291kojima is a true genius in quest design
>>750522291
>>750521772I'd assume Lamond and company are alone because they all lost their wills as Arisens. The Oracle notes that they've essentially given up. I'd assume Rovall still has Eir partially because he refuses to fall, and Eir is just that madly loyal to him no matter what. Your pawn remarks that they sort of understand what she feels when they think about if you would suffer his fate.
So let me get this straight, this game is all about running around the map killing goblins, wolves and an occasional 3-5 lifebar enemy while doing quests which reward you with 5-10k gold (at best) and some consumables, and you also can explore caves full of goblins to get a wakestone shard as a reward, and all of your equipment comes from vendors until the post-game where you finally start getting real loot from dungeons, and there's like 6-7 variations of each weapon types per vocation in rhe entire game. Did I forget anything?
>Take a quest where I have to rescue a nerd from the dungeon>game suddenly starts running like shit>performance fixes itself when I go to the dungeon>nerd sends be on another errand and game starts running like shit again>eventually help nerd escape>game has ran like a dream ever sinceWhat the fuck was that about?
>>750515353More like 2. Theres some enemies I would take from DDO and put in, like the pig men orcs, but not the literal LotR orcs and things like ents in the same game as fairies and talking plants feels like its basing itself on some other fantasy properties rather than basing it on the historical mythology that ties it all together, like DD2 uses greek mythology heavily and historical depictions of those creatures rather than going crazy with wholy unique designs and creatures, it has a lot of restraint, which is good. I detested the designs of things like cities and armours in DDO though, it felt like they were going more for Final Fantasy than classic fantasy, which is grounded. The problem when fantasy starts going away from grounded it tends to just start using the fact that its a fantasy setting to be fucking retarded looking.
>>750522895That's DD2.In DD1, you could take requests that rewarded you for killing certain types of enemies, which alleviated the tedium of walking from point A to point B and back.
>>750522657They do still have will, they just don't have a purpose as their dragon is already gone. Sigurds whole thing is being depressed that he missed his chance so he just chases dragon after dragon in hopes it will fulfill him. A bit similar to lamond, though he realizes theres not much for him to do at this point so he just gets drunk. Oracle and/or dragonforged were cowards and didn't face the dragon and the elfs reason is never mentioned.
>>750516861modern marketing sucks
>>750523218>the elfs reason is never mentionedThe dragon doesn't concern himself with the opinions of racemixing dwarf-fuckers.
>>750516861>Three real Dogma channels>Only one got in>Hordes of literal whos insteadTbf I can't see Capcom giving Nihil0.0 a pawn after how heavily he criticised DD2 he was 100%, with how the game was at launch, but I'm surprised Rift didn't get in.
I have a massive list of unfinished side quests and rather than doing them, I'm mindlessly grinding all vocations to the max before I drop the game.
>>750523931>Hordes of literal whos insteadAnd half of them played the game for the couple hours they were sponsored, then dropped it as soon as they reach Vernworth
>>750524198>mindlessly grinding all vocations to the max before I drop the game.Make sure to mindlessly grind out all the seeker tokens for that DCP boost ring first lmao. not a single player has ever earned that ring before being maxed out on everything and learned every skill a hundred hours ago already
>>750522291>create new pawn>name it "SphinxMother">set its Moniker to something totally else>release it into the rift
>>750524374It's not like getting a vocation to the max takes that long anyway. Less than an hour maybe. That's not including those boring ass maister skill quests that I'm definitely never fucking doing for any vocations other than fighter and warrior.
>>750524507That won't make it appear in the special rift that only shows the sphinx moniker ones
>>750524608The sorcerer maister guy pisses me off>You HAVE to dress like a noble cuck (no other maister has a dress code)>You HAVE to change your vocation to sorc (no other maister requires you to currently be that respective vocation)>You HAVE to acquire these rare books that are mutually-exclusive with other questsTedious bitch
>>750524374>spoileri just use a mod that shows all of them on the map, did all that before fighting the dragon
>>750524747>You HAVE to change your vocation to sorcI don't remember this one.
>>750521264Archer.There’s infinite exploding and tarring arrows from a vendor, and their new skills are incredible.
>>750524374DLC does the same kinda thing, the ring that increases mob drops slowly powers up over the course of 60 (give or take, there might be some rng) final boss kills. At which point you will be so OP and have found so many pieces of Lv 5 gear that you won't need the ring. At least the ring is still partially useful even before it reaches full power, but come on
>>750524747>"Please find and bring me these books">one of them is upstairs in his home>he turns hostile when you pick it up>you have to run away to de-aggro him then he acts normal like it never happened
>>750525126It takes 60 to max it?!I figured it was pretty simple when the ring levelled up on both of my first two kills (story one + enhanced) but after that there was nothing for the next couple. Didn't know if it was bugged or if I was missing some even harder fight to get the third upgrade
>>750525637I don't think anyone's fully figured out whether there are set thresholds or if it's purely random, but either way, each upgrade tier generally requires more kills than the last.pic unrel but I took it and thought it's neat
>>750521264I hired a thief with feint and BFIV that tore shit up.
>>750524374I tried to mindlessly grind out badges and gave up after like 2badges should count every kill when hired instead of just the quest
it should be good first
>>750521264Archer and Thief. Thieves won't use their kit properly but are OP nonetheless.Sorcerers were always kinda bad as you are hostage to their whims unless you're playing as a Arisen sorc to get your casts boosted. It's just that it's cool to see spells melt stuff but they're not that great dps wise.But everything is viable even on hard, trust me. Even a Warrior pawn, although you'll need to ress them more than Fighters depending on the Vortex.
>>750521264The sorcerer running laps and not even trying to attack is the real MVP in that webm
>man how do you even keep pawns alive withour spearhand bubbles>finally give warrior a try in the dlc>everything either gets knocked over or fucking dies before it ever becomes a problem>mfw spear was just doing no fucking damage for pure utility holy shit why is spear so cucked
>>750523931>Nihil0.0He quite Dogma entirely after DD2 burned him. I hope he comes back for DA2, I think he'd like it. DA2 feels more like they were trying redo DD2 but correctly instead of it actually being 'Dark Arisen 2'.I know Dark Arisen fans probably aren't happy that they didn't get another dungeon crawler, but as a DD1 fan this is what I always wanted from DD2.
>>75052563760 exact for me killing exclusively Super Stan on hard, supposedly it’s more if you do the easier one
>>750526916I say with full confidence that I prefer DD2s Norgan to BBI, but I feel like they could do something like BBI with Norgans loot system and difficulty. Seeing some of the dungeons they added makes feel like they are testing mechanics for something in DD in future.>pick an item, it locks you out of the other item>traps>environmental stuff for helping defeat certain enemy resistances>cant just TP to safetyI can see an infinate dungeon crawl with stuff like this that just stitches the dungeons they made together while swapping out the encounters
How do I tell if its a player hire vs pity hire?
>>750527357you cant check their profile
>>750515353Dragon's Dogma is at it's best when it's just a mindless dungeon crawler.It has some of the worst writing, lifeless character, and world building that only makes sense conceptually but falls apart when it's a world you're expected to live in. The entuee world is a fever dream more than a actual breathing world.
>>750527591>but falls apart when it's a world you're expected to live in.DD is pretty explicitly not a lived in world, I know this is something a lot of people dislike but it’s inherent to the setting.
>>750527707>you see the game is supposed to suck and that makes it goodyeah totally preach it sister
>>750515353There is nothing grounded about 2
>>750527591I don't think there's a way to make the open world interesting because no matter what happens people are going to be far more attached to their Arisen and Main Pawn, and the more personal experiences you share on your adventures, far more than anything that actually happens in the world. It's why they will never do Pawn romance, because who the fuck would care about some fugly literal who over your handcrafted soul mate that kicks ass alongside you. But at the same time I also concede that without the boring as fuck open world in both DD base games, the DLC wouldn't pop off like they did, and you need the normiecore high fantasy slop to provide context for the kino twisted fate stories that actually delve into the great cycle and its consequences.
>>750517507>These are somehow even more dull than the ones in the first game.You mean these side quests that were always "hey nigger, take me to the other side of the map" where you just put a portcrystal and then used a ferrystone? well these still exit in 2
>>750524374It was good for Trickster and Warfarer since both were dogshit before the 6 skills update and I didn't bother leveling them at all.
>>750521264Pawns warriors and fighters are horrible because the AI is too stupid to know when they should use their skills so they will either attack the air or guard against nothing meanwhile an archer pawn at worst will just tirelessly spam their basic attacks from distance giving you constant dps, this is also the reason for why giving maister skill to pawns is a bad idea, they will use it randomly exhausting themselves.
>>750528785>people are going to be far more attached to their ArisenHow does anyone care about a mute idiot with zero agency and less emotional range than the mindless pawns.Hopefully now that even Monster Hunter protagonists are voiced, DD3 will follow suit.
>>750526515For the DLC they dropped wayfarer, trickster and mystic spear to focus on the real classes
>>750529491I'm okay with silent protag, I guess. But the main pawn really should've been an actual character. Would make the lead up to the whole pinocchio ending have some weight, plus it's often helpful narratively to have a sidekick or someone to bounce off the protagonist and the main pawn would be a perfect vessel for that. There was one part in the DLC story where the pawn piped up during a quest and responded to what was happening, offering to help defend Ser Rovall's body while you and Eir went off to raise the forcefield, and I think we should've seen way more of that.
>>750529491>How does anyone care about a mute idiot with zero agency and less emotional range than the mindless pawns.We used to call these thing women
>>750529491MH protag should have stayed silent too.
>>750529491>How does anyone care about a mute idiot with zero agency and less emotional range than the mindless pawnsBecause every other character is unironically written worse. Autists somehow form bonds because they love larping and showing off screenshots of their OC main character and waifu pawn. So kinda like the sims for men
>>750526916I have him added on Steam. He still plays DDDA, but recently he’s playing other games. Hasn’t booted up DD2 yet since DA launched.
>>750529491>Hopefully now that even Monster Hunter protagonists are voiced, DD3 will follow suit.Very cool bait, unless you're actually fucking retarded.
Anyone wanna see screenshots of my OC main character and waifu pawn?
Can I fuck my pawn in this game?
>>750530491No there are 2 women npcs whose quests end in you fucking them, that's it.Is an Arisen fucking his pawn more akin to incest or masturbation?
>>750530218Imagine Witcher but Geralt stands there blankly in every dialogue and cutscene, while NPCs talk not even to him but at him.That's Dragon's Dogma's Arisen.
>>750530697It'd be like fucking your favorite power tool, except if you do it enough they become a sentient individual that can love you back. After that it's A OKAY.
>>750519450Install Warfarer's Arsenal.>wheel weapon selection>or hotkeys>no longer need to equip rearmament>can use maister skills>each weapon with its own skillsetIt's by far the best warfarer mod out there.
>>750530697Its like kissing a mirror or aspect of yourself. BBI was about why fucking your pawn isnt a thing, because its the embodiment of your own will, so if your will only manifests a doll to fuck its like jerking off with your left hand.
>>750530856Witcher also has better written interactions and characters. Dragons dogma writers don't have it in them to not just make a voiced protagonist a waste of time
>>750525082>>750526282>>750529371>Pawns warriors and fighters are horrible my main pawn is a decent tank as a Fighter. Warrior pawns are indeed stupid, but funny at least. I'll give Ranger a try
>>750530856>imagine if bad game were better>that’s good gameOkay.
>beat the game>the game forces to do shitty busy work >no climatic final boss fight game just ends I understand why people where pissed, the DLC ending shits on this super bad
>>750531171>My left hand would traverse a thousand worlds to combine my own clone's soul with my body so it can jerk off two of me at the same timeHoly based
Capcom should put me in charge of Dragon's Dogma 3. Under my watch, it'd be 2030's GOTY.My pitch would be this. A return to form. We bring back animation canceling, the swift and arcadey combat from 1, and all of the cut skills and vocations from 1. Then we cut Wayfarer out since Assassin is back. We'll also make it so that you can use 2 weapons per a vocation. You'll also be able to swap between different weapons without pausing the game. Which means that you can enjoy using say a rusted bow and a regular bow without breaking the pace of the gameplay.Warrior and fighter will be given mounted attacks. Mages will be overhauled to become a debuffer and support classes. They will be given spells to weaken enemies, stun them, lower their defenses, slow them down, blind them etc. Trickster will also be completely integrated into their class. Sorcerers will be given more interactive spells like Brontide (the melee whip effect) and fulmination (the lightning pulse effect)Similar abilities will be combined into one ability. For example Flesh Skewer will be combined with Gouge to create a Hundred Kisses equivalent for sword users. There will be a Post Grigori / Everfall style post game. There will be a BBI style dungeon. 95% of the development time will be spent on making new enemies to fight and also creating an Elden Ring sized map, full of unique biomes to explore.Enemies will be tougher, faster, and have more health. Think Nioh or Elden Ring. But unlike in those games, you won't be made of tissue paper, so you'll be able to take 5-10 hits to the face before dying. The goal here isn't to have retardedly hard enemies. It's to have engaging enemies that allow you to draw out the full potential of the combat I will put 0 effort into the story and lore because it does not matter. People come here to play these games for the gameplay. The women will be hot though and they'll have memorable personalities so that people can waifu them. Thoughts?
>>750531171You’re missing the important details about what happened with Ashe.It wasn’t solely because of being a pawnfucker. It was because of being put between two unacceptable choices of killing the woman he loved (dragon) or losing the woman he loved (pawn) and his rage and hatred of the cycle forcing a choice for him, which left him with neither.
>>750531616Nah Im good, just give me a BBI dungeon with roguelite elements in DD2. I want something that gets bullshit hard but can also just be played for fun, like I jump on, ask people to share pawns, and see how far I can get while it gives me buffs and debuffs depending how far I get in the dungeon.
>>750531701Put it like this. He had nothing to fight for in the world till he was given god powers to conjure things to love, meaning he loved nothing that was there before he had power. Its why he accepts his lot in the end, he really didnt give a shit about the world, which is kindof what you dont want as a seneschal.
>>750531616Can we stop the BBI style dungeon meme. BBI wasn't all that. Like yeah have good dungeons but no BBI copy please
>>750531616Bad. You're just making DD1 again, which is the point since you said you're doing a return to form, but if I want to play DD1, I'll just play DD1. It's not like it's unplayable right now.DD3 should be an extension or progression of the series, not a rehash of one single title.
>>750531171>BBI was about why fucking your pawn isnt a thingNo it isn't, stop perpetuating misinformation. Ashe's pawn being his beloved isn't the reason he became Daimon, it's because he chose to damn the cycle for making him choose between killing her or his dragon-turned mentor/mother figure
>>750531616>There will be a BBI style dungeon.
>>750531861Yea I dont want literally BBI, even the dungeons added in 2 have more going on than they did. Just take what they did in those dungeons with the traps and challenges, stitch them together and make a dungeon crawl where when you leave it resets progress. The stuff where it has requirements like restricting your gear and classes is actually perfect, have it that every 10 floors there is a modifier, where instead of "you have to be a spell caster" it just severely debfuffs non spell casters till you progress a few floors, so you actually have party composition to think about since you cant change it easily.I want a reason to not swap pawns as frequently and return to safety easily, but BBI was just a series of the same room repeated with different enemies spawned, I dont want that again, I would want the dungeon crawl concept but improved nd expanded.
>>750531861I just like the fact that it's a fucking huge dungeon full of challenging enemies and no filler content or unskippable cutscenes to break up the dungeon fighting. The fact that each map also has 2-3 different enemy spawns is really cool. And the fact that the whole dungeon changes and becomes twice as hard after you beat the main boss is a really cool concept.
>>750532049So what youre saying is that you can fuck your pawn without consequence.
kino shittah should make a third dlcdark arisen 2 completely shits all over the base game its not even funny
>>750528909Those are not side quests my nigga
>>750532870Next area is aluded to be Hyperborea, so we might actually just be getting more DLC instead of another game.
>>750522119I don't understand any of 2, 1 was actually quite interesting lore wise and although still based on theory made sense, but 2 just seems off the rails>the seat of God lies beyond...
>>750533215where does it allude that? I might've missed it
>>750521264I swear Fighter pawn can either be the most retarded or on some primo high quality crack, no inbetween.Like, she may just pull some crazy shit depending on time of the day, her mood, whether she's in season, humidity, your wealth, or some other abstract bs.I've seen my pawn slamdunking a gorechimera's tail in one cloudfall swoop in that marsh. Walked through fire and flames and stagger gagana. Duelling a dullahan while the rest of us busy with other mooks.Most of the time though, she just climbs on something and... not do anything. I mean, shit, she does that as a Sorc too.Maybe that's on me for having a tiger pawn. Well, she's dumb. But she's my dumb.
>>750533587>where does it allude that?His ass.In the recent Capcom report there was no mention of any form of Dark Arisen 2 sales, the major franchise according to Capcom is on ice 100%.
>>750522119>>750533553I thought it was Seneschals that lose hope or their world fails because no one with a strong enough will to succeed them appears before things go to shit.Almost as if a lesson of what would happen to the world of 2 if you didn’t manage to follow the pathjanny’s plan.
>>750533743>data collection period ended several weeks before DA2 came out>therefore the game sold 0 copiesDamn…
>>750533743no one asked discord tranny
>>750533835Pragmata and Onimusha got numbers announced just a few days after release, it's been 3 weeks after DA 2 and still nothing from Capcom.
>>750532870>>750533215I'd rather they just reuse everything they can from 2 and make a 3rd game while fixing all the issues like all the ugly characters and the character creator only having a couple good faces. 2's base game is so mid that it pains me Norgan is stuck in it
>>750533587>sphynx says "going north to warmer climates. I wouldnt dream of missing your journey Arisen, this isnt the last time well meet" before leaving Norgan. How is it that she goes north for a warmer climate when even Norgan is already a froze waste? Hyperborea in myth is surrounded by an eternal storm, but inside it is blessed with good weather all year round, olympus is the same so it could be either if its still going for greek inspirations>theres a slide in the loading screens that says "there is a civilization north of Norgan that Vermund lost contact with when Norgan fell", why even mention this at all unless its doing what the base game did with Norgan where it also did the same thing and teased Norgan>there is an armour literally just called "hyperboreal armour" which speaks of a civilization of master archers>there is a new censor added that looks like a pomegranate. Its description talks about how the censor is made in the image of a fruit from another realm that had magical properties. The pomergranite in greek legend is the fruit of Hyperborea/OlympusIn the final lost rite dungeon you encounter a large chalice with brine in it. This could well be the "holy grail" but is affected by brine, it literally kicks you out when you encounter it and the pathfinder says "no no, youre job is to kill the dragon" and teleports you out. If were sticking to greek mythology it is Ganymedes cup of eternal life, the chalice of Olympus, the pathfinder is preventing us from becoming seneschal, when we got to Hyperborea/Ollympus we will finally take our seat in "heaven".
>>750534448Oh shit, there are story bits in those dungeons? Now i'm feeling stupid for ignoring them and fucking off to the north immediately.
>>750531616>Sorcerers will be given more interactive spells like Brontide (the melee whip effect) and fulmination (the lightning pulse effect)No fag, i want to hold X for 15 seconds to create natural disasters and watch everything day, give the spellsword shit to mystic knight
>>750532870I miss old meems.
>>750533215We are 100% not getting a new dlc, DD2 dark arisen is it's final edition, also we all know normgroids would reviewbomb it if it got another paid DLC.The safest course for the series is DD3 in 2030
I'm gonna 'tism out for a bit here. I can't stand the lore implications of the DA2 story. Specifically the part where there are multiple Rovalls. In the story, we learned:>There is one Eir, and she uses the Rift to travel across multiple worlds, as pawns do.>There are multiple Ser Rovalls. At least two: one where he was heroic and sealed the demons away at the cost of sealing his own soul away to keep Niflhel at bay, and one where he failed and lost his heart to Barbatos Slim & thus became the Fallen Dragon.>Eir mentions memories of traveling with BOTH versions of Ser Rovall at various points in her past, but she has trouble distinguishing the two and they kinda run together.>You help her frankenstein her master back together by reclaiming the heart of the "failed" Rovall and reuniting it with the soul & body of the "heroic" Rovall, which resurrects him.>Rovall then travels with Eir back to their original(?) world.So up to now, the implication was that while your own pawn was off gallivanting in other worlds, they were helping other different Arisen. But now the implication seems to be that each Arisen, including your own, also have parallel copies that your pawn is traveling around with. It kinda cheapens the relationship between Arisen and pawn too, I lost all interest in Eir & Rovall when Eir mentioned that she has memories of both versions of Rovall but can't really distinguish them.And every single "twist" in the story just came down to the fact that there were two Rovalls, the Sage Sphinx was acting all smug about the supposed "contradiction" in the stories and acting like this was some grand revelation when it's basically the same dumb timeline shit that ruined Zelda lore.Also apparently Arisen can now also travel between worlds like pawns do, when convenient for the plot.Anyway I know that nobody pays attention or cares about Dragons Dogma lore but I kinda did and thought the deeper implications of the DA2 story really shat all over everything.
>>750535142It was always implied many worlds existed, but I supposed it was referencing other players' adventures.DA2 made it into a literal marvelverse with countless versions of the same character.There is no going back.
>>750535102Why would anyone review bomb it, its just more content.>do a bunch of DLC to make a game bigger>later release the game as a definitive edition that has them all in one game at the normal price of the base game
>>750535219How else are they going to make a Dragon's Dogma 3 when the Arisen ended the DRAGON'S DOGMA in Dragon's Dogma 2?
>>750535219Yeah I know, and I was always okay with the multiverse thing when it was one Arisen per each world. 1:1. It was fine, it gave pawns a sort of otherworldly quality while still allowing each Arisen to feel unique in the context of their own adventure.But now it's implied to be like a 1:many where the same Arisen can exist across multiple parallel timelines. That's a step too far into Zelda timeline retardedness for my tastes.
>>750535294Did he really?
>>750535219Those other players' adventures always were a different version of the same Arisen as you, going on the same adventure as your version.There's nothing to go back from, nothing has changed.
>>750535568nothing has changed, nobody gives a fuck about this game's shit loreit's all about killing big monsters
>>750535568Nah, I mean obviously in IRL terms it's a videogame and yeah we're all running the same main quest. But in lore it was always presented as, in one universe you have John Dogma and in another universe you have Jane Dogma and their pawns can cross the worlds and adventure with each other's respective Arisens but at the end of the day they're different people going on different adventures. The lore now, post-DA2, is that there's John Dogma #1 and John Dogma #2 and your pawn may travel with either of those or also with Jane Dogma #1 or also with Jane Dogma #2. I can't be the only one who sees the difference there and finds that fucking stupid can I?
>>750532870I did another loop to unmoored to farm more evil eyes, and even with all the conveniences added + speedrunning main quests the base game is such an unfun slog that I almost regret it. Just take me back to Norgan, fuck. I miss my comfy village, loot grandma and fashion grandpa.
I just got to the "true ending". So what am I supposed to do? Just go to these red lights and fight the bosses? How long until I can play the expansion?
>>750535142>Every NG is a different multiverse version of (You), but your Main Pawn is the same and travels with every one of them, which is why your affinity resets, but they still act like they know you.
>>750535868forever broits just gear farming for the sake of min maxing there's nothing else unless you want to get all your pawn badges or something
>>750535942Okay so how do I switch over to the expansion? There isnt even a day/night cycle anymore
>>750536024oh mb i didnt readgo into NG+ if you got the ending cutscene you cant revert the world to before unmooredyou can start dlc when you get to the main town and can talk to the nigga at the bar
>>750536024If you haven't traveled to Norgan and gotten the first portcrystal yet by the time you're in Unmoored World, you need to finish Unmoored World and go into NG+. There's an option to skip the prologue so you'll spawn straight in the main city and can just sleep at the inn til night to talk to the captain and start it.
>>750536024>how do I switch over to the expansion?Lmao
>>750536024Anon I'm sorry to tell you this but if you didn't visit the expansion map and hit the portcrystal there before entering the apocalypse, you have to start NG+ to reach it. Postgame is on a 12-day timer that progresses with each inn rest (you can technically delay forever if you don't sleep) and the world is slowly brined. You have to kill all the red beam bosses to halt the red cloud progress, which then allows you to freely explore and evac the major settlements. You still only have 12 sleeps, after which the game won't let you rest anymore. When you kill the final red beam boss one more will appear at the new hub, which allows you to initiate the true ending sequence and go to NG+. Next time, choose to skip to Vernworth after recreating your characters, and immediately talk to captain nigger to access DLC content.
>>750536208>>750536198What the fuck is unmoored anyways? All I know is I beat the dragon the first time like normal, talked to that weird ghost guy, got sent back to the dragon flight, and found that spot on his chest and used the gay sword thing. This game is the most bizarre shit I swear. I couldn't even explain the story if I wanted. The quest design, everything. So bizzare.
So is the best way to raise my pawn affinity just getting them a haircut every 10 minutes still? or did anything change
what's dogma?
>>750535749Jane Dogma IS John Dogma 2
we still sharing pawns?AMD6SPV5S4QX
>>750536698rapeable
The true final boss of the base game was truly a creative moment. Itsuno the genius truly defied all expectations.
>>750536698So these horns are the new meme item
So, the metaphysics of DD2 and DD1 are completely distinct, right? They seem to contradict one another quite a bit. The Pathfinder and the Seneschal don't seem very similar at all. The Seneschal is much more hands off for one. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but DD2 didn't seem to have any sort of equivalent to the faith from DD1 (which I THINK worships the seneschal as "the maker"? I'm not sure) DD2 just seems a lot more confused. I don't know if it's just that the translation is worse or if they switched the writers. Leaning towards the latter with how many more memorable characters DD1 had over 2.Also when DD2 released I thought of it as one of the infinite alternate realities where your pawn would go off to when hired by other arisen, but the lore contradictions between the two games seem to make that highly unlikely. DDO was so batshit and unlike the other two storywise that I don't even take it into consideration.
>>750531616>We bring back animation canceling, the swift and arcadey combat from 1, and all of the cut skills and vocations from 1.HOLY BASED. Fuck the inertia-based movement. Climbing in DD2 looks is way worse than in DD1.>There will be a Post Grigori / Everfall style post game. There will be a BBI style dungeon.based>Trickster will also be completely integrated into their classI'm having fun playing Trickster/Magick Archer/Thief with Wayfarer. I don't think they should remove Trickster, just work more on it and give it more CC/status effects like sleep, poison, and slow.>95% of the development time will be spent on making new enemies to fightMaybe 70%>The restnope. One of my biggest issues with DD2 is fighting the same enemies every 2 minutes. Hell, I don't even want to fight enemies every 2 minutes on the road in an RPG, even if they're unique. Maybe every 10–15 minutes would be fine, so give me dungeons and interesting places to explore through quests where I can fight enemies, not on the fucking road everytime. Especially in a game without mounts, since it's much harder to just run past enemies when you're traveling. In Elden Ring or Skyrim, you can just hop on your horse and ride past most of them, but in DD2 you're stuck running everywhere on foot.
>>750536385I could type out a long attempted explanation but take my word that it makes no sense and is self-contradictory. Basic gist is that by "skipping" the Dragonfight, you piss off the Pathjanny and the Unmoored World is him about to delete your save because he's salty that you went off-script. Pay no attention to the fact that he helped you get to the point where you go off-script or that there exist countless other Arisen who neglected to fight their Dragons.
>introduce huge monster girl who isn't hostile to you>no way to romance and have passionate babymaking sex with herWhy do devs refuse to do the right thing?
What's the current gooner pawn meta? With transmog being introduced I quite like that trickster top with the midriff and innerboob exposed. However that one sadly includes a skirt which doesn't allow you to show your pawn's panties.
>>750535868That's a good question. Can you even enter Norgan if you didn't go there before Unmoored World. You can ferrystone freely if you've been there, but I'm doubtful the griffin you need to ride the first time still exists in the UW.May need to wait until NG+, pick "Start in Vernworth" to skip the tutorials and go grab the DLC quests from Brant, then you can head to the new area right away.
>>750516861Is being a gigantic fucking faggot a prerequisite for being a Capcom executive?
>dress my pawn like a whore>get hires>dress them in actual gear>no hires
I have tried like 8 different times to play dragons dogma and every time I bounce off of it before finishing the tutorial.
>>750536806The pathfinder is NOT the seneschal, its a different thing, its a failsafe to keep the arisen on track to kill the dragon and maintain the natural order. We have not seen the seneschal outside of DD1, and it apparently has something to do with that fuck huge dragon in the ending that isnt Girgori, and Satan being big mad that he could not ascend so decided to make his own world with his own kind of pawns(demons) as a fuck you. We see our pawn and Eir turn into dragons to destroy the heart of dragons, but then learn that all it does is actually transport them to another world. So when our pawn does that in the ending that giant dragon just gets transported to another world, its not defeated.Well either get seneschal stuff in a DLC or another game with that big dragon, this one was about the order being corrupted and we just set it right, we never get the chance to ascend, and the dark arisen being estblished was literally just to say that there is an opposite to the natural order who is pissed that he couldnt be anything more than an arisen stuck in the loop.
>>750521772It's not really a plot hole, the game is just far less concerned with pawns as a concept outside of yours specificallyEven with Eir they still kinda gave up on the pawns becoming their masters over time thing which was kind of their entire deal, unless Rovall is just really fucking pretty
Does anyone know if the Norgan map is fully revealed at any point? I hate that my whole main map is fully visible but the Norgan one is filled with dark splotches and never quite connects to the rest of the world. Also it's a shame there's no obscure valley that connects you to the vanilla world. Even if it's a one way thing like a waterfall, I think it'd be quite nice. The Vermund expedition implies it's still accessible without a griffin, somehow.
>>750536885Pathjanny is not “attacking the world” Unmoored is just the natural result of the world being forsaken by “God”
>>750535142I agree it's retarded but I'm going to imagine Ser Rovall was just someone's character and pawn someone copied 1:1 off a YouTube character creation guide for good looking characters and that's why there's two of them. Obviously if there were infinite worlds there would be infinite copies of Rovall having fallen or won in different ways. This is only limited to 2 somehow. They didn't really do a good job explaining how this could happen only two exact ways.
>>750536385>Glowing twink sees boring generic high fantasy world >"Man I fucking love dragons. This place should have more dragons and a faggot that comes around every once in awhile to kill it and maybe become god, idk.">"This is going to be how things are for-fucking-ever.">"Wait stop, don't commit sudoku with the contrarian deus ex machina sword, you're not supposed to do that.">"Now look what you made me do Arisen. There's tentacle diarrhea cancer everywhere now. This is totally your fault. Go back to being an NPC in my autistic infinite campaign plz.">"Alright that's it, time for my ultimate move: BEEG DRAGON. Bet you never saw that coming.">"Uuuhhhhnnnn~ I can't believe you shoved your big fat Godsbane into me and defied fate all over my chest Arisen, guess I'm dead lmao.">DLC: "A-actually I was lowkey rooting for you all along Arisen uguu~. Here's some cool transmog gear-oh, wait you're leaving to go to the cooler campaign run by satan himself? Uh okay I guess. I mean there's only harder challenges, fun skills and sick loot to earn but whatever. It's not like I want you to break the great cycle or anything b-baka."
>>750518740what even is the purpose of the sealing phial
>>750522042I'm kinda swinging for the fences here but a lot of the new equipment lore combined with those flames being locked behind godsbane locks kind of suggests that Rothais only did all that because of actual demonic influenceHe may have just been killing genuine challengers to his throne as seneschal before they were ready that whole time, still turning against the cycle but not realizing he was being used as a pawn to destroy it
>>750537312Making the Sphynx quest less of a pain in the ass
>>750517167you must forge forth.
>>750519916>>750519985Itsuno spent way too much time trying to remake DD1 and then adding some weird dating/immersive sim elements to it, which were all rather janky and half baked anyway. They very clearly were cut short by at least one year, but I do not know how better the game would have actually been with the extra dev time. The plot may have been more coherent, the side quests less schizophrenic. Maybe we would have gotten an extra vocation?It's really hard to say. It feels like Itsuno may have squandered extra dev time with pointless fluff all the same
Are the weapons you need that key for in the trial room any good? I grabbed a magic bow and daggers just in case they looked cool for transmog but fighting evil eyes with underpowered weapons seems annoying.
>>750537548You can fight the evil eye with regular weapons and then get a new gacha roll everytime you kill an evil eye for what new buffs the weapon gets. Idk if it gets as good as level 5 relic weapons though
>>750537548They have stronger stat values than endgame Norgan weapons when fully upgraded + dragonforged, but yeah, you'll still have to gamble on evil eye gacha.
>>750537548They are stronger than everything before the post game final boss
>>750537165You're right about Pathfinder and Seneschal being different but Seneschal is not totally absent from DD2, don't forget about Rothais.>>750537242Pathjanny sure talks like he's the one attacking the world. Also he's heavily implied to be the god/leader/overmind/whatever of the Brine, refers to the Brine as his children, and it's the Brine in cloud & dragon form that's destroying the world. Also the Pathjanny himself turns into the big fuckass dragon that appears at the end. So yeah I'm gonna disagree and say that it is in fact the Pathjanny that's the antagonist and the one attacking the world during Unmoored.
>>750522119Pawns are mirrors of the arisen, and the weird brine shit is similar to but not really the same process as that which creates all the normal lesser dragon typesI don't remember any of the fimbl stuff, but demon stuff is outside of the worlds to begin with and every manifestation of them happens when they invade a world and start corrupting thingsThe fallen dragon is also not a lesser dragon, it's a direct bastardized mimickry of what the actual dragon-dragon is, and even ignoring the demon stuff big boy dragons can just travel the rift if their purpose allows them, like the ur dragon
I can't wait to see what the Dragon's Dogma Online story is like
>>750520678>>750520815>>750521281>>750522042>>750537428>>750521772>>750522657>>750522119>>750533553>>750533792here's what I think it's going onThe brine is sort of like this primordial goo. The great will, which is basically God, disliked how it was eating up the multiverse. So out of it, the Will fashioned the first Dragon, and gave it the purpose of creating an Arisen to do battle with. The Arisen would then oversee that world as the Seneschal, keeping the brine at way in the process, until it gets tired and a new replacement needs to be found. Either way, the power of both the Dragon and the Seneschal are heavily tied to the Brine, and practically descend from it. The pathjanny is simply an overseer that tries to ensure things go out properly. Rothais did something he wasn't supposed to, and from what I understand the world of DD2 is basically a collective dream/matrix style reality or something. The game is kind of vague about it.Anyway, there's a dark force that lies beyond the rift/multiverse/brine. Call it oblivion, crucible of souls or whatever. But it's something that can corrupt Seneschals and arisen to essentially undo the cycle. What this entails is also unclear, but it doesn't seem its goals are aligned with those of the Brine (not that the brine has goals mind you, it just wants to eat realities)
>>750537483>adds in dating sim elements>the beloveds that have actual content are less interesting than their equivalents in 1>the beloveds don't even have post-game dialogue/interactions like they did in 1Just seems like a straight up downgrade. In some ways it feels like DD2's story was made specifically for people who played DD1 so it tries to distinguish itself in such random ways. The buildup to the dragon fight in 1 is very focused on the beloved (esp if you gave em the arisen's bond earlier) but in 2 not-Grigori just had them stuffed up his ass before getting birthed out onto not-bluemoon tower with them in hand.100% unironically getting the pawn to blush and act flustered at you is much much better than all the romance stuff in either game. 3 should just double down on it.
>>750515353I want to have sexual, loving relations with the sphinx
>>750522657>I'd assume Lamond and company are alone because they all lost their wills as Arisens.Damn, so creating a waifu pawn and then fucking off to live happily ever after isn't an option afterall. Fuck the pathfinder, fuck the seneschal, fuck the dragon, fuck this cruel world.
>>750523058I agree on DDO looking too much like Final Fantasy, but I thought the enemies were decent for the most part, including Ents, trolls and orcs. Lindworms and the daimon reskin were a bit out of place aesthetically, but not too egregious
>>750538002Yeah pawns are will diggers, lose your Arisen status and even your ride-or-die main pawn will be like "adios bitch"
>>750537430You could always Port Crystal + Ferrystone it. This was always my solution. The Eternal just made it even easier. I
>>750516861any Hololive one?
>>750535142The implication of Rovall is that he was experiencing his story the same way you're experiencing yours, and he just got different endings through metaphysical shenanigans the same way you canPawns traversing the rift and such was literally always a metaphor for aspects of the player experience of the video game they were playing, this is just taking that concept as a serious part of the setting's cosmology rather than just cheesy self-referential fourth wall prodding jargon you're not meant to think about seriously
I haven't talked about DDDA2 much online yet due to wanting to avoid spoiler but holy fuck god bless KINOshita for making the purification equivalent so much better in 2. Getting the rarer version of lv 3 BBi gear with your preferred bonus enhancement would have been torture in a less fun game. Dividing them into seperate pieces of armor and letting us mix and match tons of various effects is really great. Also being able to get more drops in return for a greater challange is perfect. Running through BBI and killing myself repeatedly to get 5 lv 3 armors was genuinely awful. Having two of thise be a cape you can already get through a quest was even worse.
>>750537734>Pathjanny sure talks like he's the one attacking the worldHe doesn’t and isn’t. The whole concept is that the world of DD2 is kind of like Fantasia in the Never Ending Story, it’s a fantasy land operating on story logic. Well nobody would read a story with no conflict, so when you remove the source of conflict, it’s unwritten. He’s trying to make the story function.
The sheer density of preplaced permanent portcrystals compared to basegame 2 (and 1) in the DLC was a nice suprise.
I miss the Eliminators and Living Armor
>they made ricochet sekeer just straight up not work in the trialsKWAB kiss my ass Pathjanny
>>750537840From what I can vaguely remember from 2016 it's mostly standard mmo slop until niggas start alchemizing themselves into gold dragons
>>750535219>DA2 made it into a literal marvelverse with countless versions of the same character.I mean, that's already what it was, since pawns do the same quests across different realities. Hence, the same NPCs are involved, the same souls can exist in different universes. Arisens have more variation, because the cycle revolves around them I guess, so there's a lot of "experimentation". Sort of like how genetic diversity works in nature, it cooperates with natural selection to create variants more well suited for the environment. But normal people aren't really a part of this, because the fabric of reality doesn't depend on them, so infinite variants of the same guy just happen to exist across the multiverse.But this doesn't mean there CAN'T be variants of the same Arisen as well
Is there anything more bullshit than the black dog being unbeatable unless you have a way of inflicting some light based damage? Also is the lv 5 weapon glow supposed to be dark damage type? Unimplemented as it's own thing, obviously. I wouldn't mind if they brought it back as a sort of OP thing just for the endgame.
>>750538658Bring grimoires
>>750537885>100% unironically getting the pawn to blush and act flustered at youi'm spamming High five like crazy and this still hasn't happened. am I doing something wrong?
>>750538321He directly says "let me show you what the consequences are if you really insist on doing this" and summons the red rift storm
>>750538693I do not prepare. I do not age my meats. I do not bring debilitation cures. I do not select skills for the situation I'll find myself in. I go in with nothing and if I die I do not use a wakestone.
>>750538758He’s just showing you what’s happening he’s not summoning it.
>>750538658It's also hard countered by anodyne
>>750538756I think there's a cooldown so doing it over and over doesn't make it appear instantly. Doing the talk thing without comitting to wave at your pawn also makes them like you more, as does small talk, reviving them and taking them to the hotspring.
>>750538480This "girl" modded the Hydra into DD2. In a comment on one of "her" youTube videos, "she" said she's started working on the Eliminator.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOiHAWDVyzc
The npc and pawn's AI are super mega retarded. Is this why the game runs better than before? Before the dlc, the AI wasn't THAT bad. Now pawns get stucks in walls or running in circles when trying to guide me to my quest or a group of npcs just standing there in the middle of Vernworth doing nothing. They severely downgraded the AI.
>>750538091I think this might also be the case in DDDA lore since Barroch decided to become a merchant rather than fight the dragon and there's no sight or mention of his pawn at any point. Taking the dragon's bargain seems to either strip you of your arisen power or makes you pawn disappear since Edmun doesn't have one anywhere either.
>>750537165I forget the name, but the ghost dude you encounter in the base game is the Seneschal, unambiguously so in the JP version. They just fucked up translating it consistently.
>>750539212Some people have said they greatly simplified the navmeshes in the patches.One of the patches also similarly broke some pawn behaviors like how they’ll decide to climb and spam “GIVE ME YOUR HAND ARISEN AND I’LL BOOST YOU HIGHER” instead of doing anything productive.
>>750516861I hate streamerniggers and contentniggers so much
>>750538895And Italian mafia really visit people to compliment their furniture and wish them well
The pieces are coming together
>>750539773Where's the opposite?
Anyone else suprised that there's nothing to do with Dwarves in Norgan? I suppose it makes sense since their only real input into the world is having the best forging technique and that's something DA doesn't include. But still, they're the only race that doesn't have a homeland anywhere in the game.
>>750539992>Forging techniques target the best stat in the game>Underground areas are immune to UW fog deletionDwarves are simply too powerful to be allowed to existPlus they'd need like bespoke clothes and armor sets
Is it not possible at all to mod in new locations or edit the map?
>>750540203One thing I've noticed since playing DA is that I get staggered a lot less. I think the equipment there just has quite good resistances from the start. Early game DD2 is basically stunlock simulator
>>750539992I have no idea why they were put in dd2 in the first place. Having only like, 2, in the entire game was extremely odd and added nothing to the lore.Should have made Beastren more unique with some unique vocations or something if they were really going to add different races.
>>750540353DA is still that early onIf this was the base game, the ghouls in that first dragon encounter would have the reputation of the DD1 hill bandits
>>750540895the fact that trickster was not a beastren vocation is baffling
>>750540895>Battahl has one vocation in it>It has a vaguely arabic theming>It's associated with a unique shrine asset which is placed multiple times throughout Battahl>The maester is a random human abuela, and nothing else in the entire game uses or references that vocationIt's baffling how they actually have nothing, honestly
>getting fewer and fewer actual hires past 200>rift is getting emptier and seeing more randomly generated Capcom Pawns when I go to change my party upI guess I overestimated the number of people who were going to play hardmode for the DLC with how much EXP it dumps on you and powerlevels you
>>750541396DD3 should cut leveling down severely. Maybe level 1 to 50 max. Tighten the range for the pawn system.
>>750541483I don't trust kinoshita to be able to balance a leveling system even that restricted
>>750541396You don’t need any higher than 200Stats don’t increase past there
>>750541321It's also like half human in terms of population. IDK what they were going for with that and Vermund being founded by a beastren. I honestly kind of prefer to have the DD1 kind of setting with only humans. Also the way DD1 alluded to various foreign countries and the mysterious mainland was very alluring in a less-is-more kind of way. I don't think DD2 ever does that besides the item description and the Sphynx maaaybe mentioning a 'hyperborea'. No equivalent to Julien, Mercedes or Mason either. I wouldn't mind having another DD game set in 1's setting.
>>750541396>>750541483>>750541562>>750541583After reaching the stat cap the hiring cost should no longer increase. A level 999 pawn has no inherent advantage over a lvl 280ish pawn that has reached the stat cap. I don't mind the ridiculously high level cap in the abstract but it is basically worse than useless as of right now.
>>750541396Pc players are just all cheaters>uhhh my pawn won’t get hired if I kill super Satan 60 times better just lock the level to 100
How the hell did people reach the level cap before the DLC came out? I think you can get a temporary boost for wyrmslife crystals, but it's only double.
>>750542040Repeat NG+
>>750542139I know but NG+ doesn't even increase your XP yield. It'll take a long time for me to reach 999 even on DA and that gives you ridiculous amounts.
>>750541321Isn't the trickster master the Vernworth royal oracle in exile/hiding from Disa. Meaning she picked a random unrelated shrine and became a squatter.
>>750542040Very high levels of aughtism.
>>750525082>>750526282>>750529371>>750533653Well, guess you guys were right. I gave this archer slut some explosive arrows and she knocked this giant vagina down three times right into my Powder Blast while my main pawn Fighter did nothing but get digested.I don't know, man. I feel like Fighters in Norgan love climbing enemies, especially these giant monsters, but don't actually do anything once they're up there.
>>750542040You weren’t supposed to. I think I remember reading somewhere the best way was to keep fighting the real dragon with the Pathfinders flashback reset lmao
How mad do you think people would be if Warrior was exclusive to Beastren but they were huge and looked different than the humans like the original dd1 concept art?
>>750542430They broke something with pawn AI before the DLC and they’ll climb and not actually do anything or just try to boost you up, even if you’re already on the enemy and higher than them or a caster.
>>750534448This one might be a stretch and is probably irrelevant, but...an NPC in Bakbattahl's northern tavern (our south, either of those idk i forgot) mentions there's a new thing called ambrosial wine, or something along those line. Yes, yes, I know we got Ambrosial Meat back in DD1, but I don't think I've ever seen an item with the same epithet in 2. Reading your post got my noggin joggin. Ambrosia being a greek myth thing and all.
>>750516861no Destiny no buy
>>750542430>I feel like Fighters in Norgan love climbing enemiesMelee classes love climbing, the difference between thieves and warriors/fighters is that the first one can do damage while he's on top of the monster while the others are just wasting time doing no damage neither getting the aggro, they simply don't function with modern AI tech beyond fighting trash mobs like goblins and bandits
>Sigurd claims the duospear is a fighting style of his own invention>there are duospears scattered in ancient ruins of Vermund, sold all over Battahl, and in Norgan beorcans use them and there's an ancient spearhand maister sealed in an obeliskUnintentional comedy that the only black guy vocation maister goes WE WUZ SPEARHANDS
>>750542430Stop using straightforward pawns
>>750541396not capping the level at 200 was a mistake, basically no difference in viability of a lvl 200 vs 999 but now available players and pawns to share in endgame has been stretched thin
>>750515686but it has a castle coming out of the sea and a big titan robot dude
>>750543831inclinations are a meme placebo>ermm just use calm!>still climbs>ermm just use kind!>still climbs>repeat for all of themthe only time they DONT climb is if they already have a badge i think
>>750543953I think I reached lv 200 in basegame (NG+ though so IDK), but with how much XP DA gives you I'd say 400 or 500 would be a good cap. Ideally there should be no additional cost per level after reaching the lvl cap.
>>750521264Archers are the best. My pawn has been an archer since the game released. Thieves are powerful but still suffer from stupid AI. Archer just pew pew pews and things die. They have an insane aimbot.
>>750543693Anon, the nigger is called Sigurd (Old nordic version of Siegfried), if that already didn't tell you it was pure WE WUZ I don't know what to tell you, is like placing a white blue eyed man into an African setting call him Motumbo and to make him give you lessons about the hunting of gorillas.
>>750516861>literally no-one interesting>singsing out of the blueHits me in the nostalgia used to watch him a lot.
>>750543693Lmao fucking niggers
>>750544242he hasn't even touched dark arisen btw
>>750537181Yeah pawns becoming their arisen is no longer a thing. It was pretty dumb to begin with (why the fuck would a female pawn become a male and vice versa) so I am not upset they retconned it. Dragons Dogma 2 really is more of a reboot of the franchise vs an actual sequel. A ton of the significant lore of the first game was retconned.
>>750515686>I just really needed an excuse to start the threadI hope they pay you well
>hard mode evil eye in molten gauntletFuck this; I give up- or at least, I'm gonna go play in Norgan until I can kill the goddamned thing.
>>750539992>>750540895Humam races that aren't monsters you can kill are pointless additions t bh
>>750542937what does that game have to do with official pawns?
>>750541626They wanted the furry. Audience. No really, that's the only reason they were put in was Capcom wanted to broaden the market and they saw anthro protagonists as popular.
>>750529491>he thinks my character talking will somehow make the game betterWilds is the first Monster Hunter game I kept perpetually on mute to shut everybody, my own hunter included, the fuck up. Whatever happened to silence is golden? Not everybody should open their fucking mouths.
I was never going to go through and get all the Seeker Tokens to unlock the Corset so being able to transmog equipment into it, much like allowing strikes with the Sphinx, is like acknowledgement that they went too far in some places. And it confirms that I only would've worn it out of spite for having had to have "earned" it since its stats, especially when upgraded, are pretty solid. By transmogging I bothered with it for an encounter or two then went on to something else entirely.
>>750515686>It doesn't have anything like fighting monsters from hell in dark arisenwut? Dark Arisen 2 one ups the first game by having you fight giga satan and prevent hell portals from opening up across the world.
>>750525126>At which point you will be so OP and have found so many pieces of Lv 5 gear that you won't need the ringI'm at the stage right before it and, yeah. The game eventually gave me a weapon with 3 enhanced skill Battle Frenzy IV so now by running in with a food buff I can knock down the Big Goat Man to his stupid half-health tornado arena AOE inside of what feels like a good 45 seconds at the absolute latest as Fighter running Ring of Audacity so Perfect Defense or whatever it's called never drops. I'm just looking for a really decent Warrior weapon to make me want to change class. *5 weapons with 4 skills on them so I can tell myself I can try different classes.But man 60 kills is a such a grind. It's not fun killing this thing over and over.
>>750544332It’s not retconned it’s just not relevant to the plot of 2 because the bestowal of (your) will never happens. Pawns don’t have fixed forms they’re just pieces of oblivion larping for the story
>>750536790Pretty much. They're the new corset.
>>750536790It’s hot I will not apologize for being a basic butch
>>750543693Sigurd may not have invented duospears, but he did perfect them. My nigga created Wild Furie, so I'll cut him some slack.
>>750537181>unless Rovall is just really fucking pretty
>>750545812>he did perfect them>specifically honed to kill the dragon>probably one of the worst vocations to kill a dragon with
>>750543693Man, It'd been so long I thought wandering shop negro in the DLC was the duospear maester. I can't be the only one.
>>750543693>there's an ancient spearhand maister sealed in an obelishkek I didn't think about that
>>750545960>probably one of the worst vocations to kill a dragon withIt's not the fastest vocation for killing dragons, but it's definitely one of the safest thanks to magic shield.
>>750543693That means my nigga lamond is the only non larping maister
>>750515353The first Dragon's Dogma is borderline apocalyptic. There is a settlement in Cassardis that is just people living in a bunch of ancient ruins, then a couple of small trading/mining posts, and then Gransys. There are ruins scattered all around and the roads are not safe. There are two other major military fortresses that are both on the brink of being lost to goblins/other enemies.
>>750545960>magic barrier for the slowass meteors>fast climbing to reach the heart>a railgunYeah you can kill a dragon faster with augural flare to the heart but it makes sense what they were going for
>>750543693WE WUZ SPEARHAND AND SHIET
>>750546143>Not a larper>Is the only arisen together with the elf to not be summoned to the seafloor shrine by rothais
>>750546169Its a shitty island nation thats barely above a penal colony. Its outright stated theres a much bigger continent nearby iirc
>>750546143>non larping maister>warlarper C'mon man...
>>750546262The political subplot of DD1 has much more intrigue to it than the fake king shit in 2.
>>750545880If that's him, he looks like WIlliam Dafoe with a beard.
I want DDO 2
>Dark Arisen 1 implies there are much darker forces at work behind the scenes with Daimon 2>Dark Arisen 2 actually follows throughNice to see desu
>>750546339It just works better in relation to the cycle>Duke just sends everyone on pointless, unrelated missions in the "Wyrmhunt">You ace them all and keep getting stronger so he intends to send you really far away so you don't meet the dragon
>>750546372It is indeed him according to his data
>>750546376We can't even play all of DDO 1 yet
>>750537181Pawns only become clones of their masters if their arisen becomes seneschal. Most named arisen either fail to slay their dragon (Roval), give up (Lamond) or deny the cycle and become demons (Daimon).
>>750546339>>750546435It helps that DD1 actually had political intrigue because Duke's arisen status was actually a bug spoiler. DD2 spilled their spaghetti before the game even released, out right telling you Disa put a fake arisen on the throne and disposed (you), and the prerelease trailer may as well pointed giant neonsigns as to how the fake controlled pawns.
>>750546702>arisen status was actually a bug spoilerI meant his still arisen status and connection to the dragon
>>750515353Is Online worth playing as solo? Heard there is fan made private server for it but it played like MMO crap is this real chat?
>>750546702>10 minutes into the game you are told you have amnesia and you are actually the arisen by the deus ex machina janny>instead of the player just discovering this on his own
>>750542430They fucked pawn's AI. Pawns only work as a meat shield or healing while you do the rest. Never trust them to do the damage.
>>750546676>Pawns only become clones of their masters if their arisen becomes seneschalt. didnt play DD1
>>750546894I was going to answer you, but then I saw you typed the question like a faggot
>>750522139Crapcom being dumb and fucking stupid is something that I can't never comprehend like why bother shutting down DDOnline when it printed money easily for them, MHFZ sure because of World and Wilds but Dragon Dogma ip?
>Pathfinder: DUDE, the cycle is super good and it really works! Please continue it, my immortal super warrior>Please ignore the fact that it's so shitty it makes people so angry and hopeless they turn into fucking demons, and everyone hates it so much it produces Satan sometimes hahaSurely there's a better way for reality to exist and not be so fucked and convoluted?
>>750546942>>750546676>>750537181It's obvious the cycle and world dynamic changed somehow after our Arisen in 1 kills himself as Seneschal. The Greater Will decided to shake things up and stuff became even more fucked after Rothias refused to give up the Seneschal seat. It's all retarded and not thought out though so we're grasping at straws. But the implication the DD1 arisen became Satan in DA2 is pretty cool
>>750546553I want more
>>750547035It's all for the Greater Will's amusement. 3 should have it reveal the Greater Will is actually a demiurge situation or some shit idk, this is a mess. They need to reboot the "lore"
>>750547103>>750547197A deconstruction of the cycle idea could easily work on 2 if Itsuno didnt decide to waste a good chunk of the main story run time on a irrelevant GoT ripoff that went nowhere. Game would be far better served with a more focused story on the competing machinations of pathjanny, Phraeus, and Rothais
>>750547103>But the implication the DD1 arisen became Satan in DA2 is pretty coolBro how are people so fucking confused by the story of 2 and the DLC, Satan isn’t a person it’s basically just a bug in the system. In an infinite multiverse there will be infinite Arisen that break free of the cycle in the way Rothais did by attacking random people.
>>750515570H-Hey! Don't grab her there!She's very sensitive and self consciousabout her femininity!
>>750547015I dont get why these companies make online games of franchises that are way more popular in the west and then make it impossible for the west to play them and even ban them. Japs genuine are retarded in a special way
>>750547374There is zero “GoT shit” that isn’t just the scheming of Phaesus lol
im thinking about buying this to play it for the first time, has it been engoodened enough (only played dd1) ? i was also considering waiting for a dlc and playing it alongisde that bestiary mod
>>750547783absolutelydon't jump straight into the dlc though, the stuff you get there will make the main story even easier than it already is
Ahem,Satanachia impaling shota arisen and pawns on his giant demonic horse dick before tossing them to the lesser demon rape hordes.That is all.
>>750546169>>750546702There's something quite post-fall-rome about DD1. Gran Soren is surrounded by ruins of much grander walls (like people building their smaller huts in the ruins of grand classical architecture), Bluemoon Tower is far grander in scope than anything we see actually lived in. The idea of defeating the dragon is ridiculous to the Duke and also to Lucien who'd much rather see Gransys fall to it than his own homeland. We have apocalyptic cults, Gransys is nearly wholly lawless and what authority remains is in retreat until we help out. In this the Arisen is quite similar to the Seneschal, keeping the world intact through sheer force of will for as long as he is able. DD2 really misses this. Vermund is *basically* functional, as is Battahl. The castle in Vernworth is of a far, far grander scale and sophistication than the one we find under the sea. It seems a lot more renesaince inspired, both architecturally and in terms of fashion. In DD1 you have random knights each with their personal coats of arms wanderimg through Gran Soren, in 2 they have clearcut nobles and uniform clad soldiers. The apocalypse in 2 frankly comes out of nowhere.
I've become a really big fan of Tornadic Strike.
>>750547783>waiting for a dlci meant waiting for a discout woops
>>750547934Oh yea and obviously the ruins being more hellenic/ancient inspired as opposed to the current clearly medieval setting. The presence of more greco-roman creatures like the hydra, chimera, griffin, harpies etc add to it. And there's the superstitious masses and the witch hunt too. Now I really want to write something out about DD1's world.
>>750541396I think everyone knows to lower their lvl requirement My lvl 80 pawn was hired by a lvl 140 player
>>750547964Are you using it as a replacement for Blink strike?
>>750547934>>750548152Yeah 2 just really don't capture the feeling 1 had for its world with the giant ruins and world. Weirdly, 2's map feels smaller in some ways than 1's. I really like the idea of giant ruins in fantasy settings and want them to get back to it with 3.
>>750548393tornadic strike is the spin2win supercombo
Ok give me a hint, I've been encountering these new purplish slime in the Lost Rite dungeons which seems impervious to magic, physical, and thrown barrels attacks. I've beaten two of them (dropping malecryst as loot, which I haven't found a use for) but I don't know how I did it, except their health start to be damaged from my party's attempts at attack, but I don't know what conditions were met to allow that. Without giving me the answer straight away, any hints on how I can arrive at the solution?
>>750548414>2 has a different setting than 1Riveting stuff dude. Did you know Norgan has snow but the base game doesn’t have snow?
>>750548689there's more you can throw at them down there than explosive barrels
>>750548689You have to inflict a certain ailment on them, which certain pots can do.
>>750548689Pay attention to what you see in the dungeon.
>>750548689Poison barrels or poison norgen enchant wep or poison bowskills
>>750548393Not entirely but it does work decently as a gap closer.
>>750523931The point is to get people who might not have otherwise played the game in. Not to preach to the choir.
>>750548743>>750548760>>750548776Fuck I get it now, damn I feel dumb, thanks anon, going back to doing it now
>>750516861Unprotected sex with Saruei in her ZZZ Burnice cosplay.
>>750548714But I like the other setting more
did the dlc fix the story?
>>750519450I'm using Warfarer Arsenal right now, right this moment and it's like having every full class all at once.It remembers where you set your skillsRearmament not neededI also have a skill mod that lets me hit L1+L2 (configurable) to have access to another set of skills so you can equip pretty much everything
>>750549214You would've realized eventually, anon. I didn't catch on until I saw an asp kill one while they were fighting.
>>750521264My Sorc would just stand there and cast Meteoreon on that one ghoul
>>750547442I always find it amusing that Japan pioneered gacha, but was idk probably too high sniffing their own asses and stagnating that they lost a sizeable portion of market share that could have been theirs. Could've done a Genshin of their own before Genshin even existed.
Shut the fuck up and show me your slam pigs, twinks, hags, and whore pawns.
>>750549991It doesnt help that even to this day their gacchas still are some of the stingiest most expensive trash piles ever with the shittiest 2d sprites.
>>750547442COG was just very racist against gaijin. Probably an old guard boomer executive thing. Capcom has changed their tune since the release of MH4U, and the death of COG may have coincided with that
>>750547015COG got shutdown because netcafes died during covid.
vore with giant sphinx
>>750515353By the way, can you kill the sphinx in the DLC after she takes you to the last region?
I keep entering these threads hoping someone will dump a bunch of sphynx content but it never happens
>>750551628no she cutscenes away
>>750551632Faggot, should pray for satanachia to impale male brats on his demonic bitch bane till their obedient cocksleeves.
Battle frenzy iv is too much for my retarded pawns.
>>750551693But if you quickly look back she is still flying and you can control your character. I wanted to try but forgot my unmaking arrow at home :(
>>750551826it's meant to be used with godmode rings
>>750551861What rings? I'm running three sorc pawns and the one with bf4 gets one shot by ghouls, had to switch back to an old staff for my main pawn because she was as well.
>>750552074reversal + benevolencewith enough max hp benevolence counters the drain from reversal, while reversal fully counters enemy damage
>>750552074>sorc>in dd2You absolute fucking brine brained bleating aughtist. Change that bitch to a mage or archer.
>no dog belongings to grandma lying title
>>750548682>tornadic strike is the spin2win supercomboYou would think so from the name, but Plenilune Slash is the superior 360 AoE spam move.
>>750552237Are those random ghoul/ice dragon/demon rings?>>750552263Everything gets deleted up to and including super satan throughout the entire dlc, sorc is fine. Use trickster skills.
>>750552529Reversal yes, but benevolence is a one per playthrough quest reward for being a good Wilhelmina simp.
>>750552613I was a good simp this playthrough so hopefully I have it.
>>750552529>use tricksterAnon im into cbt, I got to super satan as a sorcerer with a sorcerer pawn along with two lvl 30ish shota pawns just for visuals. That's how I know its ass. Magick archer with 3 archer pawns is the ultimate kill team.
>>750515353is new dlc any good or it disappointing? will they make second dlc?
>>750515353sex with giant monster girls
>>750553176>is new dlc any good or it disappointing?yes, quite good>will they make second dlc?the DLC didn't exactly do amazing numbers, so seems unlikely. I do hope they would consider an DD2 enhanced patch though like Cyberpunk or Crimson Desert, but its not likely
>>750553176The DLC is fantastic if you enjoyed the base game in some way at any point of the game. It's not going to make you love the game if you never liked any part of the base game. Spoilers, the final boss of the DLC isn't a cutscene.
>>750553314>>750553415Does it have its own bitter black island?
>>750553032I'm playing warfarer. Twirly spin, recovery arrow, mirror shelde, high empyrean and armoatic resurgence with three sorcerer pawns who have no gay flare.
>>750553451No, there's no infinite dungeon. What you do get is repeatable boss summons. They are the same boss with no variety. Basically ogre, chimera, living armor, and lich. And one big one that lets you fight the ur dragon.Yes you can kill daimon repeatedly.
>>750553586That sounds like someone made a test room and summoned any boss creature to test your weapon and abilities and then sold it as dlc then.Rather disappointed if you ask me. Is the new snow area any good?
>>750533653I've had the same issue too. I play warrior and have seen instantly react to me launching an enemy and responding with cloudward slash to punt them down. Or she will frame perfect shield deflect an attack. But then there are times where she is just running around doing fuck all or climbing the giant and stabbing its leg doing nothing. I have had her climb the giant and tear out a sword though which was neat.
>>750553314>the DLC didn't exactly do amazing numbers, so seems unlikely. I do hope they would consider an DD2 enhanced patch though like Cyberpunk or Crimson Desert, but its not likelynice disinfo discordfaggot
>>750553714Yes I will admit the snow region is leaps and bounds better than base game. You won't be trudging through loads of emptiness or constantly find an interesting cave that ends 10 steps into it.
>>750518740How do you do this? When I entered UW he teleported away as soon as he finished talking, and there was no chance to do anything between cutscenes and his dialogue
>>750551632what kind of sphinx content anon?
>guild contracts updated>can't disable the rumor function anymore, so no longer compatible with adventurer's guildWhy.
>game has a hot sinister MILF>see nothing about her despite it being out for yearsi am disappointed. i am disappointed in capcom, i am disappointed in all of you, but most of all i am disappointed in myself.
>>750554021That's good to know; I think I will buy it sometime later. Thank you, anon.
>>750554318>subplot where she makes her son impregnate the female arisen>the fully animated birthing sequence >the cutscene where they cut out your characters tongue and keep you locked in the pig stables while she raises a true "heir"This fucking game is dark
>>750516861If infinite cringe had an official pawn I might use it, but not any of these faggots
>>750551632
Have there been any substantial changes to the game since release? Haven't played DD2 since it came out.
>>750554675You can use 6 skills now and they gave people the eternal ferrystone. There is a hardmode
>>750554675You have an eternal ferrystone.There are some new dungeons on the map, mostly lategame.There's a DLC region and a hard mode.
>>750554614Pointy shark teeth or not? Also make her thrice as big.
>>750554142>eternal anglo dentition my day is ruined
>>750515353Is there an updated mod that adds a merchant to the game that sells all armor/rings? There use to be one for specifically Wyrmslife Crystals stuff, and I wouldn't mind getting the ring of Benevolence since I remember helping Wilma kill some dude but I don't have the reward. I know for a fact a bunch of armor I collected in the past isn't showing up in the transmog screen and i don't have the patience to go collecting that shit in the unmoored world again.
>>750554982nvm found onehttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1741?tab=files
>>750553176DLC feels like what DD2's design should have been. The BBI is fighting randomized boss rooms, but the base game is full of the best designed regular dungeons in the series so far and they're intricate and under large sections of the map.
>>750555912Sorry, not base game, new map
>>750554675>Have there been any substantial changes to the game since releasehttps://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/en-us/topics/update/Non-DLC;>Hard Mode.>Six skillsMage/Sorcerer have a new core skill, Magick Barrier, uses Stamina to nullify damageTrickster has a new core skill, it's Levitate except it doesn't grant vertical heightArcher's kicks were reworked, you now hold the input to launch off enemies (before you always launched off enemies)>3 separate character save slots with their own manual, auto and inn saves>Guardian specialization for pawns (prevents you being attacked while camping or dozing off on oxcarts)>Can get off oxcarts earlier, extended operating hours>Can favorite equipment and filter>Hard Mode>Eternal Ferrystone, more portcrystals; >Can restart a run while keeping your stats, and skip to Vernworth on new playthroughs>Cure for Dragonsplague, it also affects pawns differently now>New quest where you fight a corrupted Chimera>Can hi-five pawns on demand; can send them to explore>Free camera photo modeDLC;>new region>12 dungeons in Vernworth/Battahl>new hair, tattoos
>>750542738Yeah I play thieve and my fighter pawn would climb a giant half the time and offer to boost me when I prefer her to stay on the ground and stagger it for me.There was that one time though when she launched me straight up high and I landed a plunging heavy attack right on the giant's head to finish him off - that wa satisfying as fuck
>>750555912There's bits of base DD2 where they nearly get there (stuff like going through the Ancient Battlefield or Misty Mire and ending up at the Sphinx's Shrine; Waterfall Cave; the sidepassages into Battahl) but Norgan more consistently has areas that are fun to traverse and lead to other areas. Constantly unlocking shortcuts in that main castle was fun.
>get to unmoored lands>that one homeless guy at the springs doesnt want to evacuate>unlock wayfarer>doesnt give me Rearmament skill to make the entire class work>apparently missed his boring quest which was important as opposed to the other 20 I ignored because theyre boring and give nothingThis game is so fucking gay.
>>750556254Warfarer sucks anyways
>>750556254>Rearmament skill Who actually uses that and wastes a slotMenu switching discipline is an important discipline from dark souls PVP. And this game even fucking pauses
>>750556347Well there's that then. I'll just be Fighter, NG+ and finally get to DA.>>750556416I just wanted to use a sword and shield, big giant sword, and archery. I'm guessing the class sucks because there arent enough weapon slots to even use them all in a fun way.
>>750554675Hard mode and dungeons. Yes, they added dungeons to the base game independent of the DLC and they are actually good. Its actually fucking bizaree that they added "end game" content for the base game, at the same time they added a DLC with an end game that makes it redundant. The DLC is fantastic and is the real DD sequel that is so good it brought be back into hype mode for more DD content in future, where I was very skeptical of anything when it was just that base game.Turns out people werent bullshitting when they said "these are entrances to dungeons clearly and they were cut. It seems like the game needed way more time in the oven, even the performance has been fixed, so they really did just push it out the door half baked. Sadly, theres no fixing how rushed the main questline is and how under developed the second half of the game is. If they are smart they would just add more DLC and treat the base game as effectively the "starting zone" for the DLCs end game content. Package everything together into a one title definitive edition later.I want more DD now that DD2 is more filled out, but I dont just want sequels pumped out either.
alright, which type of enhancement you faggots usually put on your elemental weapons (cinderspine, almace etc)? not sure if i use vermundian or elven
>>750556827>independent of the DLCthey are actually dependent on buying the dlc
>>750556860>they are actually dependent on buying the dlci keep seeing people say they're separate from the DLC, it's bizarre. every official mention of the dlc lists the three features as "new region, new dungeons, new hair/tattoos". are they confused because they're in the base region? or because they're hinted at by a quest added outside of the DLC (the corrupted chimera one)?
>>750556416>Warlarper now larp as soulshitterKEKYPOW
>>750556860If thats what theyre doing they should add more shit to the base game every time they do a DLC just to keep the base game relevant.Waiting for NG+ option that makes all the enemies those brine corrupted ones that drop loot too if you have the DLC, add more features with each DLC.
>>750557103there is no more dlc, we have reached literal invincibility levels of gear
Don't know why they made level cap 999 when I stopped getting any upgrades a 100 levels ago.
>>750556836I always put dwarven on everything because knockdown is too good to pass up.
>>750558248New content doesnt have to be gear though. As someone else said, the new content could be a dungeon crawler where you get buffs and debuffs that are only in effect within that dungeon and reset when you leave for example. They seem like they mighteve been testing the water for that with the dungeons with their requirements and the last one flat out has;>presented with 2 options intermittently>pick one and it locks you out of the otherJust expand on that and make it an infinate dungeon where you play just to see how stupid you can make the build youre running, have the same loot system from Norgan, but add some more effects on armours and weapons, lots of new skins since theres transmog now, and have stuff like new skills be some of the rare finds in the dungeon.Like it doesnt need to do DLC that just adds another gear treadmill.
>My own clone!
How are you "supposed" to play mystic spearhand? It's the only melee vocation that I don't like because I can't get a handle on its kit. Maybe I'm playing it wrong.
The entire Norgen map is as big as a Vermund sub-region but it feels so much meatier and better. Underground stuff, verticality, enemy placementMakes me sad the whole game isn't like this
>>750558436Dwarven doesnt add the better magick than elven nor better physical attack than Battanhl though.
>>750560073It adds knockdown which is better
>>750522268>for whatever retarded rreasonIt's pretty obvious every sphinx parent pawn that isn't dev made exist for farming likes since every single player needs to summon one through out the game.
>>750531074>muh mods>it's actually bunch of cheatsPC shitter race everyone...
>>750532870Having a smaller area and one settlement is a huge improvement. Main issue with the base game is the huge map and multiple settlements with bad side quests that often force you to travel between settlements.
>>750560180I can't imagine something more soulless than naming your pawn SphinxParent just to have your little parasocial death stranding engagement number go up
>>750560230
>>750559602It's an extremely awkward vocation and I really don't like playing it either
>>750560308Correction, its a fuckhuge map with fuck all to do in it>bumfuck edge of the map thief village?Never gotta go there again>melve?So fucking redundant the whole section gets deleted>that corner with medusa and the spearchucker towerYou guessed it one and done>volcano islandJust kek exploration into pieces, this place is a short set piece for giga shitterThe foggy swamp has more going for it than the whole fucking map.
>>750560230The game is piss easy dude. Who cares if people use mods to make it actually fun to play
>>750556416I do. I don't want to have to open a fucking menu every time i want to switch from my sword/shield to my bow and staff. You get six skills now and lets be real, most vocations have one best in slot skill that you just spam constantly.
>>750559602Its slow and does shit damage.
>>750560920I used to feel the same but then there are all these cool weapon skill upgrades in the norgen gear, plus the concussive doublejump, so no way I'm sacrificing 1/6 slots for quality of life
>>750559602you play it like you play fighter, but instead of blocking you have a magic bubble and slow blast to support you. Your damage comes from either your maister skill or on weakspots once something is knocked down. Once it's ranked up, Wild Furie spam, ravinours hond to refill stamina, blast with a forbeding bolt, repeat. Maybe throw in an evade move when you need to. For helping to knock down monsters you have a choice between Unto Heaven or Speregonne to a weakspot for your bigger stagger hits.
>>750554318In my first playthrough I managed to play it without ever meeting her, seems odd to have her be so removed from the plot and this game could have used an evil love interest.
>>750554318I romanced her my first playthrough. It was pretty funny when she said this line while blushing at me.
>>750515353Make it like DD1, but even more sexy
>>750563790Mating press and then princess carry to her son.
I wish there was more to the vocations. You max them out so quickly and progression just completely stops so you have to switch to another vocation to keep things interesting. Sure you get augments from them but I wish they at least had some kind of hybrid skills that you get if you max out two specific vocations.
>>750548393I was glad to finally be rid of Blink Strike in the DLC. Tornadic Strike does 90% of its job but also does better damage and stagger. Easy swap.
>>750565905not that guy but I didn't even use blink strike in the base game much. It makes the combat more boring because closing gaps becomes trivial.
>>750565905I shifted out Blink Strike for Shield Pummel a long time ago. Blink Strike is horrid at tracking ghosts and wolves (which seriously need an AI overhaul. Enemies should come TO the player not kite around for like 15 seconds actively running from you.) and operates as little more than an instant Goblin/Knacker killer which is pretty worthless. They should've given it a comical amount of knockback to make up for the middling damage or allowed for a combo follow-up. At least Shield Pummel knocks away (when it feels like it. Stupid move)
>>750559602constantly charging your slow blast which sucks. I was hoping it'd get an autocharge like dante's guns could get but no fuck my left index finger i guess
>>750515353Since when High Fantasy can't be grounded?
>>750565417Almost all augments are total shit in DD2 as well
>The continuity of the world's will begets eternal rancorDD3 will be about completely deleting the cycle forever
>>750542430>>750543539>>750546929>>750542738I added a mod that removed the pawns ability to climb and try to boost you up and it made pawns considerably better when climbing monsters.
i don't care about the cycle
>>750522268>>750522268a sphinxparent name is sometime randomly given to any pawn in the rift now and then
>>750525271Or just break in via levitation and snag it easy-peasy.
>>750566963Fighter just feels like a rng fest with too many shit multi-hit skills that have shit tracking so you will never actually finish their damage output since the enemies can just waddle away, i fucking curse shitsuno for effectively removing antler toss, it was a reliable single hit skill with a lot of damage and a lot of knockback
Giv horns you demon fucks!
>>750517214He’s too busy getting bukkake’d by BBC’s to collab on anything.
>>750568404DD2 already ends with you killing the world's will itself, deleting the brine, pathfinder, senechals, dragons, etc. How much more complete could it be.
>>750569945did you publish it on Nexus?
>>750571024Cope, fighter feels better than ever, missing your attacks is a skill issue
>>750559602Constantly disable enemies and hold down R1 always be charging your freeze bolt, which also cancels out a ton of animations and recovery frames, have people here never played DMC? Same shit as Nero’s gun
i got burnt out after 40 hours in the DLC how the fuck did they make it bigger than the base game
I did that trial dungeon that requires your inventory to be very light. Holy crap, are they all this long?
>>750572646the way the base game was designed, it looks big but it's actually tinyand the main quest was very short
>>750560230its a single player game. if it makes the game more fun its valid to use.after I beat DD1 I replayed it on hard mode and i used cheat engine to be able to equip anything with any class. I made a custom Warrior 2 handed user + Shield and it looked amazing, the animations worked smoothly, it didnt clip on the model nothing.
>>750572771No, that's the longest one.
>>750572495It is on nexusright herehttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1847>NOTE: You will still hear the voice line where the pawn offers the lift, but they don't actually perform the action, and continue doing other stuff.
>>750572557I think this was cool
Do L5 relics drop with holy enchants? I'm so fucking sick of niggerdogs and their aura. Them and barbatos fucking suck because of how they drag out the fights. Not to mention the "fuck your buffs" shit from the dog. Only 2 things from the dlc I dislike
>>750573260Ye.
>>750572421Too vague with no satisfying conclusion plus its full of plotholes. Either do it again and properly this time or retcon DD2 cycle as one that got hijacked by the brine. The brine wasn't actually part of the great will but a parasite that leeched off the continous expenditure of willpower by everyone involved, which is why it was so hellbent on keeping it going
>>750573330Neat, is the a good way to farm l5? Is it just vortexes or devouring rancor into Satan?
>>750572421You only freed one world in the multiverse, Pathjanny is just an agent of the Great Will all that stuff is still around
>>750573260Only level 4.
>>750573597>>750573330Well, which is it?
>>750574351I have a magic bow with an ice enchant and battle frenzy 4. Probably a level 5.
>>750574351Only level 4 can drop with holy enchantment but the payoff is that they don't drop with battle frenzy.
How different was the game on release? I'm over 60 hours in and have been loving it, combing the map and exploring every cave I come across. I'm playing on hard mode, which I know is new, but am not sure how much it's affecting the overall experience.If I had played this when it first came out it definitely would've been my GOTY, but at the time it seemed like most people were shitting on it.
when i first encountered Willan Barbatos i thought that shit was a name and was like who the fuck is this guy?
>>750574663Have you played DD1?
>>750574663The game was mostly the same just discord trannies coordinating across websites
Can you save scum the demon rings or are you locked to a pool.
test
>>750574663Most people shitting on it just couldn't run it because it was poorly optimised. The actual problems with the game were the main quest (especially Battahl) and no end game content.
>>750574796Yes but in like 2014 on the PS3, so I don't remember it that well.
>>750574663Funny, I played DD1 and DDDA probably for about 300-400h total over the years (though mostly at release and about 3 years ago I did a replay). I'd say they were a 8-9/10 for me in terms of fun. Meanwhile I just bought and started playing 2, did the base game and now finished the DLC and I'd say the base alone was 1 4/10 for me, couldn't wait for it to be over, while the DLC went up to about a 6 really, it still just doesn't feel as fun or satisfying as the first game. Everything bar the graphics is a downgrade to some degree or another. Gutted classes (I can't even fathom only having 4 skills pre DLC, what a travesty) like archer and MA not having daggers or thief not having a ranged option, utterly forgettable characters, poor presentation and an even worse story. Movement itself is less fluid and responsive due to the shitty "muh realism" engine they used.It's just sad to get something that looks better but is actually worse, as a game, in every possible way.
>>750516861Need my Ethan, hila and Tamara pawn squad
>>750575082>archer and MA not having daggers or thief not having a ranged optionthis was a good change
>>750572421All we did was send it to another world to spare ours, its not defeated. Notice that with Eir turning into a dragon and biting Roval they are definitively NOT dead, they just hoped back to their world. That is what happened to the gigantic dragon, our pawn just sent it to the next world.With the last lost rites dungeon the pathfinder is acting a bit suspicious too>Ive seen a lot of arisen complete this challenge...>but my purpose is to make sure you kill the dragon>teleports you out before you can ask any questions about what the fuck you are looking atseems the brine has corrupted some chalice mean only for arisen that are willing to go even farther than seeing the real world, because its purpose is to get arisen to fight dragons, so he is actually what is maintaining the loop and not letting anyone ascend to seneschal, knowingly or not.TLDR; the "real" dragon isnt defeated, the pathfinder is a sussy boy, and the Arisen has still not ascended. But we saw what happened when an Arisen gets the power of seneschal in retaliation to not being able to ascend so he makes his own realm and even his own pawns. Satan and his demons, are fallen arisen and their pawns with him as "seneschal" of that realm
>>750574663the main quest is really quite bad but it does the job of getting you into Battahl and then over to Agamen and the postgame.
>>750575307You can’t ascend to Seneschal because there is already a Seneschal. The demons are Arisen that became aware of the cycle and just started attacking the world indiscriminately.
man after getting mad at cod after a single match i was looking for the dd2 thread thanks any archer mains in the house?what kind of skills are people looking for in fighter/warrior pawns?
>>750575493BANG BANG BANG
>>750575207no it wasn't
>>750575207>this was a good change>refuses to elaborateFair enough
>>750575538please stop i got ptsd from this bullshit gamei just wanna chill
>>750575307The dragon in the ending dies to you godbaning its heart, not to your pawn biting itAnd the Rovall that Eir resurrected was the one from our world, the undead dragon was the one from a different one. They didn't have a "their world" to hop to, the one where Eir came from was already destroyed by the undead dragon before it came here.
>>750575324The main quest is just as good as DD1.
does medusa head work on satanachia?
>>750570290i'm just gonna believe you without checking wether this is true
>>750576135no
>>750576009While I prefer playing DD2 over DD1, that just isn't true.
>>750575493Not an archer main, but if I was, I want a fighter/warrior to draw aggro away from me, so they NEED Shield Drum or Roar. Fighters should ideally have Shield Precision, Divine Defense, or Vengeful/Punishing Slash for survivability as they get bumrushed by everything. Warriors don't need anything specific, but Inspirit is nice so they can shake off a debilitation if the mage is busy, but it's not really a concern. Both vocations should also have that one augment that reduces the loss gauge build-up.
>>750576995thank you anoni'm gonna level up my fighter pawn then!
Dream game = Dragon's Dogma + Death Stranding with huge dungeons
>>750576995>>750577180pawns are shit at using those skills, from what i'm seeing. equip the aggro augment and at least one aggro ring on them
>>750569945>>750572967I'd like to keep this behavior, but I'd prefer if they only did it if I was already climbing the monster or really close to them, and it was a large monster. No, I don't need you to throw me up higher when we're fighting a Baphomet
>>750577290My pawn's been pretty good with shield skills. I've admittedly never seen her use Shield Drum, so maybe the ring is a better idea.
dragon's dogma needs pets.
>>750577364i have my warrior pawn with one aggro ring and the augment. he get's attacked without pause, while the other two are machine gunning and i'm trying to keep him alive.
>>7505724213 should be about a post 2 unmoored world ending where humanity is outside the cycle trying to rebuild, but is still having to contend with the effects of having been stuck in it for so long/eternity and bits of it still seeping through the cracks, fading twitches of the magic that once bound it.Despite there not being a hand guiding it, a Dragon and Arisen are still eventually brought about, but their motivations are slightly more open ended now without being forced into their roles (multiple endings for the player idk).Demon excursions into the world from big bad's jealous of its inhabitants having been properly able to escape the cycle without their cope turn into monsters and live in Hell method (pretty much an excuse to bring back more demon enemies). World's not completely resettled so still lots of pockets of civilization between vast explorable landscapes and ruins. etc.
>>750577424https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9erc2SYG1WA
>>750560230Sorry anon, I'm going to keep enjoying proper lantern shadows with no performance hit.God I hate that modern games dropped this shit, STENCILSHADOWS4LIFE
>>750577563neat.
>>750577803looks nice. link me up, famalam
>>750531074I don't understand how the weapon wheel isn't a default feature for warfarer
>>750577563imagine the smell
>>750545880>GRUG WANT STOP DEMONS
>>750577894https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1759https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1205
>>750547380Satan is an amalgamation of many corrupted arisen, and one of if not the first of which was (You) as confirmed by savan's armorRothais opposed the cycle but didn't fall to oblivion, he still remained there to fulfil what he saw as his purpose
>>750578516are you using both at the same time?
>>750578640Yes, they do different things.
