Forever.
>>750437240Forever gay and retarded
>>750437302Do you rike it?
I'm having a blast
i wanna cum on her face
I also want to cum on her face
>Redditors already petitioning to have the day night cycle the same as retailIts fucking over
>>750437240Errrrm bros, the new content???
>>750438368How is it like in retail and how is it like in forever?
>>750437302This upsets hordetrannies.
>>750437302burning crusade was gay as fuck too fuck off
>>750438423In vanilla the cycle matches real life, in retail its shorter and all fucked up.
if there was any justice in this world people who played wow in 2026 would be lined up against a wall and shot
>>750437240holy cute
>>750438454Yet it is a fraction of the level of gay modern blizzard can conjure.
>>750437240>Blue elves with glowing liver failure eyesNice one Blizzard lmao
can't get over how they talked about making forever match the tone of vanilla then come up with most retail race ever conceived bar dracthyr
>>750437302>your reskin is bad>my reskin is goodywnbahe
>>750437302kys high elf fag
>>750438454It may be a bit gay but I'm staying on anni. Forever is a fucking JOKE
>>750439080>menstruation elf defender
How do you play the same game for 22 years? Mental illness?
>>750440090How do you post on the same image board for 22 years? Mental illness?
>>750439006>reskinHigh elves were introduced in Warcraft 2. They're literally the OG elf race of Warcraft. Everybody else that came after including night elves and gayblue elves are the reskins.
>>750438403>collect 8 books so you get a free primary professionjust an example of the amazing new quests
Fire Metzen.
>>750440042yes, sky elves are the most interesting Warcraft elves. pretty simple to prefer them over shitty high elves.
>>750437302If they hadn't added skyborne I think I would be playing wow forever next month.If they had added high elves, ogres or draenei(the og ones) and not sky elves I definitely would've been playing.
>>750437240
>>750438675cutest warcraft elves indeed
>>750440905>High elves were introduced in Warcraft 2.And became Blood Elves in Warcraft 3. Deal with it.
>>750438457Thats good though
I didn't like sky elves, until I met /her/...
>>750438457Shorter is better; it means you get to see the full day/night cycle playing the same time of day.
They would add Panda girls for the Alliance
>>750441508There’s a high elf standing in Eastern Plaguelands in vanilla WoW you uncultured ape, and he says something to the effect of, “please look forward to future content” implying high elves would become part of the game eventually
>>750441508>And became Blood Elves in Warcraft 3.Not all of themJust because some night elves became high elves doesn't mean there aren't night elves anymore
>remove weapon racials because they were too specific to classes and choice>just make crit for orcs standard>remove crit from orcs>put in command that helps 2/6 classes they can be, not considering specs of those classesare they drunk
>>750441672and horde players slaughter all of them.deal with it.
>>750438457Matching real life sucks. I have a job. I don't wanna be stuck on night.
>nerf every horde racials>literally EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM>Skyfags for Horde literally EAT SHIT>Skyfags for Alliance have 3% passive haste and the higher HP all time regen than trolls +mana regen, horde sky elfs don't have eitherIf you play Horde you are cucked simple as.Blizzard is nerfing everything Horde while overbuffing AllianceTotally not because Asmongold and the rest of the big twitch names plays Alliance btw
>>750443246where the fuck is all the unpaid content?
>>750443384you are viewing content
>>750440090It's a big game. That and people can spend thousands of hours on 1 class when there are multiple.
>>750437240WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NERF JIGGLE PHYSICS
>>750437240Is that how long my chastity cage is going to stay locked? Oh thank you Goddess!
hope u have fun, bros
>>750443451
>>750444018this dungeon is still better than any other classicslop in the same level range because it can actually wipe your group
>>750441760Dual wield warriors needing 18% hit at level 60 with 300 weapon skill for level 63 mobs sucks. If I wanted missing hits to be part of my rotation I'd have rolled a fucking rogue. Heroic Strike / Cleave queuing was what made the fucking class.
>>750444018WHAT the fuck happened?!
It's kind of annoying that she actually is really cute because I hate her.
>>750441760>are they drunkWorse, they are californians, which means they live in a gay social media bubble, disconnected from reality and have shown time and time again they're not fit or able to make Warcraft happen again. Give it time, "Forever" won't last long before the make it as gay as retail. It's in their nature, they can't help it. At this point microslop should just lend the IP and let private servers do their own thing legally.
>been planning to play an orc rogue since forever was announced>racials get shittier and shittier as beta wraps up but hey whatever I get that crit chance racial so its not all bad>in the 11th hour blizzard changes a crit racial to a racial that is only beneficial if you have a pet>melee orcs get literally nothing now and everyone will think im a retard for not rolling undead or a gay faggot blue elfth-thanks
>>750441672I would love if they actually put proper high elves in but you know they won't now since they've already put the blue sky aliens in.If they did, you would see nonstop crying how people don't want more elves. Blizz fucked up big time and i'm mad.
>>750437240Yes. I'm going home, and this time it's different. This time, it's Forever.
>>750444251>literally nothing>except the best damage cooldownlmao keep crying, bitch boythe plainsrunning buff is too good to not roll tauren though
>>750442004Based
>>7504420042% haste. try to keep up
>>750444329Literal nothingburger.Can't upkeep it with schizophrenic microsteps, only actually running for a bit>stop by a quest giverBuff gone>gather/lootBuff gone>enter combatBuff goneSure, a tauren will walk to ogrimmar 1 minute faster though
>>750444448bros never had to run from point a to point b before. also it works in dungeons and builds up twice as fast. even if you're only getting up to 30% its better than literally any other racial that wont even budge your damage meters
>>750437240so for someone that genuinely does not understand the design goals they set out; what's the plan? a raid in every vanilla zone and each one increases ilvl by 1 instead of 10s or 100s?i dont know where else their stated goals will take them in 5, 10 years, except this.
can't wait when this shit dies when you guys go back to raid logging
>>750444251Blood Fury is considered the strongest on demand damage racial in the game, especially when popped alongside your trinket.While I am not entirely sure if stun reduction applies to Cheap Shot, if it does, this passive lowers the entire stunlock duration on you by 2 seconds, which is pretty good.I haven’t done the exact math, but if this reduction buys you even a split second out of the stunlock because the enemy rogue lacks the energy for an immediate follow-up, it could potentially act as a free "Will to Survive" every time a rogue opens on you.
>>750444517thank you anon, i feel a bit better now
>>750444028>being making>an postYou will never fit in, microsoft-activision-blizzjeet.
>>750444918>Being makingMy bad, missed that one>An postYou blithering idiot
>>750441672that was before they decided on them becoming blood elfs you shit for brains, he is now canonically a blood elf too.
>>750438457>In vanilla the cycle matches real lifeThat's incredibly retarded.
>>750437240I am EXTREMELY tempted to jump into this and I haven’t played WoW since MoP. Someone please dissuade me.
wait isn't this just tbc and wotlk?
>>750437240Foreverial delitized and loving it
>>750437240>Turtle died for thisThe crow riseth. The spirit remaineth.
>reboot WoW from vanilla>have exactly one job(add high elves)>failIt's amazing how stupid blizzard is.
>>750445330the game is too shallow to keep anyone interested for a decent amount of timeit's like a park ride in mmo form : you go up the ramp for 50 hours and then the ride ends before you get to go down
>>750437240I was gonna play it but the things I've seen in these threads have made me not want to play it anymore.
>>750446507never fucking ever helfschizo
>>750441760>remove 1% hit from Tauren because it's too powerful>give it to Dwarves because lmao
>>750446507>have exactly one job(add high elves)>failThis is why I'm not going to give them money. What a bunch of spiteful cunts.
>>750446507Quel'Thalas is coming in a future patch, they'll add both high elves and blood elves so elftards on both factions can shut the fuck up.
>>750447383Adding High Elves later in addition to retarded blue elves would be even more retarded than not having High Elves.
>>750447383They'll never add elves for free, all the paypigs who fell for the skyborne scam would complain.
I WANT FORSAKEN ELF AAAAHHHHH
>>750446507idk I think it's kinda impressive how they can make a game unsalvageable before it's even released
I don't regret a single hour.
>>750437302Get fucked shenna + dutch. Blizzard won and you lost LOL
>>750447596Do you not have a job
>>750445330Its a better vanilla. Anyone saying otherwise is a salty private server fat lol
>>750447124Wisp Form movement speed feels a bit lackluster for nelves, since it's only active when they're dead, they should give them Forestwalk, which increases their movement speed like plainswalking, and better also remove plainswalking because it makes Tauren too good.
>>750445330If you're not a tranny you should always have an ongoing blizzard subscription
>>750447783statements uttered by the utterly detached from reality
>>750447673n33t
>>750447827kys pserver tranny
>>750447979you first retoiletranny
>>750447383Skyborne already rapes the lore and setting too much, so just adding some belves and helves crumb afterwards doesn't fix the problem.having none of those three would be better than skelves+belves+helves together
i love blizzard trannies and i already bought a 1 year sub
>>750444073Try needing 17% for spell hit cap when half your damage is going to be melee. That's an extra 8% that's not affecting the other half your damage.
>>750437302Cope!
I want to be an Alliance healer but I really, REALLY don't want to play Dwarf Shaman.
>>750448194dwarf priest(female)
>>750448194gnome priest is the king of priests now bro
>>750441189Every wow quest is some combination of "Go place kill things collect stuff". New or old none of them are actually interesting.
>>750448120Hit now affects both melee and spells
>>750447383>half of all alliance races will be elves>a third or horde races will be elvesRETAIL MINUS BAYBEE
>>750437240>asspulled blue elves>they can join either factionthis makes no fucking senseThey at least could've introduced something like undead Blood Elves for Horde and Furbolgs for Alliance, if they insisted upon allowing elves into the Horde.I feel like they should've just bought out the Turtlewow project, hiring the enthusiastic devs who clearly felt plenty of passion for classic +. This shit is just tone deaf.
>>750448485Why would they do that? Millions of retards will gladly give Blizzard money anyway.
They should add a hundred races and subrace options, but they're unlockable so the four main races are still the most prominent.>If you want to be a horde amani troll you gotta do a specific hinterlands quest chain first and get a darkspear troll to lvl 50.>if you want be a stromgarde human you need to do an arathi+hinterlands quest chain>forsaken elf: lvl 60 undead and naxx>kul tiran: kul tiras centered quest chain>high elf with theramore starting location: lvl 60 kul tiran and lvl 40 night elf+onyxia
>add High Elves to alliance and Blood Elves to horde>add Worgen to alliance and Goblins to horde>add Draenei to alliance and Ogres to horde>add Vrykul to alliance and Pandas to hordeIt's so easy to make the RIGHT decision, it's like the millennials working blizzard make the WRONG decisions on purpose.
>>750448485>I feel like they should've just bought out the Turtlewow projectI think regular classic was overall better than turtlewow, the dev side of things wasn't anything impressive.They just happened to have slightly better judgement than Metzen when it came to races.
>>750448686>>add Vrykul to alliance and Pandas to hordeDid you mix that last one up?
>>750448686>add Worgen to alliance>add Draenei to alliance and I'm out
>>750448727No, I didn't.Vrykul are people. Pandas are furry monsters.
>>750448686It's already been datamined that Blood Elves are joining the Alliance and Gilneas is joining the Horde in Forever.
>>750438368>the same as retailIf those niggerfaggots want to play a game like retail, they can play FUCKING RETAIL. Its right there, what they want. GOD DAMNIT! I hate people like this.
>>750437240Forever more like for 2 months
>Nerf dungeon XP>20 megathreads on forums saying to reverterm just running dungeons to level doesn't align with our pathfinding, sweatie.occasional "I hope they nerf it more!" threadoften "blizz wants you to open world quest to make it feel alive!" - 10 replies>Reverse dungeon XP nerf>800 repliesBlizz continues with their dumbass "but we created 500 new quests">Drop rates aren't increased>You have to kill 50+ harpies in the barrens for 8 slayer rings for you and one other personH-huh.. did i just catch a whiff of people enjoying themselves in DUNGEONS? Unacceptable! Nerf all the equipment stats this INSTANTThis actually happened btw
>>750448765That'd be perfectly acceptable if the blue elves didn't exist.
>>750448778The point is retail for contrariansEveryone wants retail but they want even more to fit in with fellow retards who performatively hate retail
Add more races to horde. Every alliance race is just variant of elf or human anyway so they don't need more.
I will rush to 60 with an add on.I will raid log.I will get fully geared in epics.I will come hunt you down and 1 shot you while you're "out in the world enjoying the experience".
>>750448765>datamined>source: it came to me in a dream
i hope they add Straight back Orcs. I love my retail Orc DK, standing straight, proud, massive. Hunchbacks sucks!
>>750448804I don't get why quest items aren't shared, ruins the point of "making friends while leveling" since why would I invite anybody to a group when I can out tag them
>>750448806>if the blue elves didn't exist.Really taints everything else for me.Like they'd have to do something incredible to bring me back after that.
>>750448686blood elves being and worgen being alliance horde was always stupid
I think metzen has always been the problem and he's just the type to dump the blame on someone elses plate, I still remember when he accidentally searched his own name on twitter when all that rape drama was happening to see if he was getting mentioned
>>750438403>starting zones average around 20 new quests>10-20 zones average around 10 new quests>20-30 zones average 4-5 new questsAbout what expected unfortunately. Smoke and mirrors to get people in the door (and more important buying beta access)With the new content being heavily frontloaded and deceasing exponentially the further you get into the game.I fully expect any zone from 30+ to have as few as 0-1 new quests, with the exception of maybe STV that'll have like 5. And the most annoying part is that the low level zones especially the starting zones are the ones that needed new quests and overhauls the least. There is already plenty there to comfortably get you through the zone without any grinding. But some of the later zones could have really used this attention and quest love.
>>750448949Blizzard was going to give us blood elves and high elves before he stopped them.
>>750448823Vampires and Werewolfs. So Worgens to the HORDE, but ugly and permament werewolfs, without transforming into human, and Venthyrs to the Alliance, because Vampires can be inteligent, and i suppose they can coexist with humans with some lore bullshit like They were Transformed by void but cleansed by light or some bullshit.
>>750448753Vrykul are bloodthirsty violent savages and pandas and peace loving pacifists. Each obviously fits the culture of the other side.
>>750448804they can't sell restedxp guides if dungeon leveling is a viable alternative. you will want to level alt characters optimally after you've had fun doing all the quests on your main therefore you buy a guide
>>750448804the worst part about dungeons is that they are still using classic's balancing, which was already piss easyimagine if they actually made dungeons hard as they said they would, needing actual ccif they decreased clear speed they could revert the xp change and have it balanced that way, but no, they choose the laziest path in everything, always
>>750449071Hard content is retail likeWe dont do that in classic
>>750449071You can do massive pulls in dungeons right now even with mid gear, way more than vanilla
>>750448821The point is redditors should be culled
>>750449045The Vrykul are perfectly capable of acting civilized and compatible with the alliance, they can build houses and wear shoes. The Pandas could be alliance too, but I just don't want them and would prefer they be put on the evil faction.
>>750448823Dreadlords. I wanna be a fucking dreadlord! Can't there be a bunch of Dreadlord outcasts that could be playable?
>>750448120>an extra 8% that's not affecting the other half your damageOnly needing 6% hit for dual wield fury with 305+ weapon skill allowed for more freedom in itemization. Now every physical dps class is going to be highly dependent on +hit gear.
>>750441659I wish, but they said they wouldnt. they need more furry races in general
>>750448823>Add more races to horde.They should add some of the orc clans as races
>>750448949>I think metzen has always been the problemthe problem but also the reason there's the lore is a thing in the first place
>>750441659the boomers would cry too much, its truly ogre for us
>>750449131Hard content is retail likeWe dont do that in classic>That one retard in your discord who excitedly proclaims how he <<hopes>> they add challenge mode mythic dungeons to classicEveryone who hears him say it half-heartedly lets out a "yeah" without entertaining the notion further
I'm actually going to be a little mad if these faggot thirdworld redditors get the day/night cycle nuked
>>750449903It better be GMT aligned
>>750449417damn, warcraft lore used to be cool
>>750441820nah matching real life is SOVL and basednot immersive if you want you're prancing around in Loch Modan at 2PM and it's pitch black with the moon and shit... it don't make no sense cuz
>>750441659At least the pandas actually existed, the cloud sniffers are just another god damn elf recolor they pulled straight out of their ass.
>>750449190what's that? druglord? sure, you can be a druglord.
>>750449569not that I want mythic or some gay shit like that, but what is the point of having new and powercrept gear and talents if pve content is scaled the same?
>>750447383I LOVE ELFCRAFT WOOOO
>noooooooooooooo the players don't WANT sky elves this is anudda shoah!>sky elves are a huge success on both factions
ive never played wow because it always felt like i was getting in too late but i'll give it a shot this timei think i will make a troll hunter and he will be a funny man
>>750450470Did we ever get any stats on how many people actually played them? I’d assume the horde had a shit ton since all the belf players probably jumped on them.
>>750450470people want high elves, sky elves use high elf/blood elf models and customizations. Nobody wanted sky elves
>>750437240>thread age>7 hours>replies>155jeets, please WAKE UP
>>750450470god the retail male blood elf model looks so retarded
>>750444081Blackmaw Hold is going to be as large as BRD
>>750449190Playable dreadlords would be a complete retcon of Shadowlands with regards to Forever, so I fully support that. Denathrius was pretty cool though.
>>750448804is this a picture of myzrael servant-zoning johnathon?
>>750450548The proportion for beta will be higher than release because you had to buy them to have beta access. I'm guessing they'll be near the bottom on both factions.
>Classic but the classes are even more simple and braindead to playYou can have all the new content in the world, but if the classes aren't fun to play, who cares?
>>750451254They were about 20% of the faction total for both Horde and Alliance, about equally popular for both factions, very popular in general. >>750451254This nigga is delusional. They'll likely be on par with humans for Alliance and undead for Horde. Very popular without a doubt.
I can't stand this dogshit Tauren plainsrunning meme and all the retarded redditors celebrating it as "heckin zoomy cows!!". This is exactly the sort of goofy retarded dogshit that defines Retail. Players shouldn't be given 60% movement speed at lvl 1.
>>750451596it's completely useless at level 60
>>750437240Product.
>>750451596don't forget paladins with 15% extra movement speedmeanwhile warriors, priest and warlocks are still running around at normal speed
>>750438368The devs don't hate retail so this is guaranteed to slowly transform into it
>>750450470>not even most played in the beta where everyone already bought themKEK
>>750450470>>750450548Why can't BEfags stick to Alliance when they have the option to do so? I don't want some sissy elves in my monster faction
>>750452015You no-shoe niggers are delusional. If ogres were added to the Horde NO ONE would play them. Not even the niggas asking for ogres.
>>750451596>this thing thats not in retail in any way shape or form but was in vanilla beta is so retail guysDo you even hear the nonsense you say?
>>750452250that sounds like retail talk to me fella
>>750452059>muh nigger noshoemanYeah and you can see the consequence on retail now thanks to barbie niggers like you who couldn't stop running their mouth and had to ruin the whole setting with Disneycrap.Fuck you.
>>750452323The setting was always gay nu fantasy slop
>>750452323I accept your concession.
>>750452430>"I wonder what mog I will pick out for my toon today hihihi"
>>750452323thrall is the original disney character
>>750448804>erm just running dungeons to level doesn't align with our pathfinding, sweatie.They are clearly doing it to try to stop gold farmers even if they arent saying it. Everyone was boosting their alts post bwl in classic and even into phase 2 tbc and no one was in the open world. Except it opens up a new set of problems in that it fucks healers who would tardwrangle dungeon farmers for xp early on so they didnt have to go shadow or whatever. The better solution wouldve been to change xp so that you have to do damage to a mob or heal someone doing damage to get any xp.
>>750450470A lot of people played them just for the novelty and to see the starting zone. I suspect their population to drop in half in the actual launch, and that's not even accounting for the people who didn't paypiggy for the epic edition for beta access and won't even be able to roll one in the first place.
>>750452059I'm asking for ogres.
>>750452661they're gonna give them a very minor advantage in pve, because why wouldn't they, and all mix maxers are gonna flock to that shit, because why wouldn't theythen again min maxers are also probably gonna drop the game in 2-3 months anyway
>>750452661>I suspect their population to drop in half in the actual launchAnd you'll be wrong. Do you seriously think Sky Elves will be less played than Dwarves, Gnomes, Tauren, and Trolls?
>>750447124Most of the people who are actually good at the game came to the conclusion that the crit boost was probably going to be better than hit at 60 so its actually a nerf. It is kind of retarded they took away something that benefits alli resto shamans and gave them a dead racial.
>>750452250Yes, superfluous convenience, random boosts that you don't have to earn, and goofy reddit humor is all Retail in fact.
>>750451596plainsrunning is older than you are
>>750453294No thats classic to a T>superfluous convenienceLike a hearthstone>random boosts you dont have to earnLike world buffs>goofy reddit humorLike poop quests
>>750452661The tauren population will be decimated due to the elves having access to druid and shaman.
>>750448958>But some of the later zones could have really used this attention and quest love.Well, they did. By virtue of adding a whole extra zone of quests.
>>750448296>Hit now affects both melee and spellsThe melee hit cap is 8%. The sole exception is dual wielding auto attacks at 27%. Spell hit cap is 17%.
Twilight SparkleRainbow DashGreat PowerfulWhat names is everypony reserving at 1 pm blizzard time? I will be at work so I have to take a 15 minute break just to attempt name reservation
>>750444251BLOOD FURYYOU GET A FREE DPS TRINKET AND YOU STILL WHINE
Why are most wow players just balding fat white males?
will dire maul be out on release?
>>750447383They should add Worgen and Goblins with SD models instead of even more fucking elves.
>>750448804>You have to kill 50+ harpies in the barrens for 8 slayer rings for you and one other personi don't think i've ever done that quest. just skip it retard.
>>750438403
>>750454256The content is right herehttps://youtu.be/JImcvtJzIK8?si=dD7q1rEIC37D8_lZ
>>750438403this is what whales paid 70$ for? turtle did more for free lmao.
>>750437240>Forever gets announced>Friends are super hyped>They actually get me hyped>Really looking forward to it>Beta comes out>Within hours people are just incessantly whining about how their class is underpowered, everyone else is overpowered. This race having 1% to crit ruins the game, etc.>Streamers openly start buying gold. IN A BETA. Have no consequences.>Botters fill the BETA with bots and start price fixing everything>Botters flood zones with hunter bots that tag every mob as they spawn and force you to pay them gold to get your quest reward>Community collectively decides they will not party with people who use the same armor type as them>Devs exclusively listen to streamers who spend their entire time whining about 3% increased damage vs elements on a tuesday>New Skyborne race they added looks like shit and has a zone filled with modern wowisms>All of the new content they added is written like retail>Art style is totally fucked up>Friends for some reason are all playing on different realms. Some on PvP, some on PvE, a few on PvPRP>Lose all my hype and will probably just forget about itAmazing to see a community ruin something before it is out. This is probably for the best though. I think MMOs are just a defunct genre. No one cares about flavor or exploration or intrigue. It is just parsing this, speedrunning that, QoL this, frictionless that. Everything has to get easier, faster, and all the while bots are ruining everything and Blizzard does NOT care because they still pay $15/m like everyone else.
>>750454046Id say there's more browns than whites playing this nowadays, but Im really not sure because both sides try to speak like nigros.
>>750454256>intolerance and prejudice can take rootThe fags are lecturing us again, they just can't help themselves
>>750437240>>750437302>>750446507>>750448686>>750450470>>750451596reminder that you can play turtle wow with bots now
>>750454608Maybe the game about literal race wars is not the appropriate place for this kind of talk, how about they make a hello kitty island game and do it there?
>>750454631>you can eat shit with botswow... who asked for this?
>>750437240Forever is a trap and is retarded. And they make more fucking elves as their cashgrab hype? Fuck off.
>>750454608You'd probably call Tolkien a fag too
>>750454690there are orcs that aren’t niggers but wow doesn’t portray that well so the globohomo lectures don’t work
>>750454482>Friends for some reason are all playing on different realms. Some on PvP, some on PvE, a few on PvPRPBe honest: You don't have any friends, do you? If they're all playing on different rulesets then they aren't friends. That's about as friendly as the people of this website.
>>750444675post full pic
>>750437302>mfw they didn't hire Cavill to protect the lore
>>750454845Yes, they're my friends but it is like>Oh my old classic+ guild wants to play on PvP>Oh my IRL friend wants to play on PvP RP>Oh my GF doesn't wanna PvP she wants to play on PvEWe're friends and we play dozens of hours of games together a month but we also are all now in our 30s or late 20s and have other friends and relationships. This isn't even counting the horde vs alliance debate which they never got over.
>>750454608Wc3 was about forgiveness and friendship
>>750454787Tolkien considered Orcs to be fundamentally evil and irredeemable.
>>750455053>Tolkien considered Orcs to be fundamentally evil and irredeemable.Oh, so Orcs are Republicans then, got it
>>750455053I thought they were ripping off warhammer orcs not Tolkien orcs
>>750454482I'd like to play on RP, but my friends are going to play on PvE... but they are so flighty that they aren't going to stick around, plus one of them just wants to play with his work buddies that I don't know. I don't even know why RP is a separate ruleset instead of just being a player-set flag.
>>750454608It should be noted that to be moral you have to be sensible, which is the reverse of being tolerant, they want to incite immorality.
>>750455131They made a copy of a copy. Warhammer Orcs are evil too though.
>>750455203defending yourself is bad, letting your enemies kill you is good
>>750455203Ah yes, the famously sensible right-wingers who voted for a con-artist pedophile out of nothing but petty-ass spite and have spent the last decade with their fingers firmly pointed away from them and towards everyone elseVery sensible bunch, those guys
>>750453482A post so stupid its clear you're not even trying
>>750454690well they did say they regret calling it warcraft. We're in dark fucking times.
>>750438454Not really anywhere close to what Blizzard has been doing for the past decade.
A buddy of mine and I are going to play forever, probably just doing a single month and seeing how far we can get with one character. He has never played wow before, and I only played a bit of classic when an older friend of mine dragged me to level 40 back when it came out.Was playing human warlock in classic and wasn't really enjoying it, thinking of doing a troll warrior this time. If we don't give a shit about raiding and just want to do the leveling experience is the game at least fun enough for that?
>>750455317listen, fag, nta, but your drivel is genuinely low iq. Most people voted for the person they wanted cause they assumed some good will from them. Going>ha, he's a pedo, con etcIs a retarded take for retarded people.
>>750453346This is only Plainsrunning in name you retard. Plainsrunning was meant as a replacement for mounts Tauren would get at 40, like what Worgen have in Retail. This is a ridiculous speed boost that completely destroys the balance of travel powers
>>750455452KEK thanks for reminding me how they changed this art to make the woman more independent. Fuck Blizz and commiefornia
>>750455432t. Poop quest enjoyer, probably a jeet
>>750455452Opposite (((genders))) being portrayed as close together? We can't have that, everyone needs to be isolated.
>>750455505What a very sensible post that totally isn't just seething and coping
more like never ever again, you couldn't pay me to touch that garbage again
>>750455604Ive never voted and never will. I just think you're retarded for going after people for trying to find ways to make life easier for them. It's stupid ass sports rivalry shit that only normie and low iq fags engage in.
>>750455514there’s no speed boost balance, half the classes get nothing
>>750438454your pathetic father hadn't even considered the consequences of having you in 2007 let alone you being old enough to be there for actual TBC
>>750455317You're not even sensible enough to sense right from wrong. As if you want to actually distinguish bad sexual conduct from good when you are pro abortion and pro sexual perversion like homosexuality. You are not being sensible here.
>>750455668>Ive never voted and never willThen you have no idea what you're talking about
>>750451587My guess is based on them being a paid race. Only a portion of the population will even have access to them on release while everyone bought them to get access to the beta.
>>750455758>you dont participate in the jewish sports system, so you don't know anythingExhibit B.
>>750454482all the things you've described happened exactly the same since Classic beta prior to 2019. It's mindboggling how its the exact same issues and people somehow are expecting the outcome to be different, or that somehow the community (that fucked up the game in the first place) will be different.Your best bet is to either suck up and play alone (thats why if I end up trying it, it will be on RP server) or just stay the fuck away from this and play on a private server
>>750455668God why can't people like you be my enemy, imagine a raid boss where you beat it by voting and everyone is too lazy or brown to vote, straight outta 3rd world
>>750453012Yeah while hit is THE most important stat in classic and forever it seems pretty abundant this time around. Every class has a talent that gives some hit and they may not even need to take it
>>750437240>make a classic+>what race should we give to show good faith?>centaurs? Orges? Nagas?>No, let's make yet another elf race and color it blueIf you keep playing this game, you're a cuck.
All of my friends who said they were going to pay are now coming up with excuses to not play. Which is fine, it is not like I got a gun to their head, but I am disappointed because they talked a big game and chickened out at the last minute. Looks like I am going at it alone or just skipping.
>>750455938>he thinks the trannies at blizzard could make working centaurs ogres or nagaslol
>>750455672Yeah that's a balance. Just like fish can't fly and birds can't swim, generally. There is an order and identity to the game, and there is weight and meaning to travel. Plainsrunning gives every Tauren a free mount at lvl 1, making what you get as a Druid or Shaman or Hunter basically irrelevant, and makes every journey a shock you zoom across. It will make even mounts feel way duller. It's a complete disruption
>>750447124Dwarves need something. They're the least played race and everyone seems to hate them.
>>750455974>All of my friends who said they were going to pay are now coming up with excuses to not play.And what's your excuse for continuing to play?
>>750455982There's thousands of two legged creatures they could have used, but having yet another elf race being created is downright deliberate.
>>750456037trannies can't think past dilating and elves
>>750455974Can't believe I was roped into faggot alliance knowing full well those waddling heart attacks are going to quit anyways, guess you can trust fatties as far as you can throw em
>>750456002No one hates dwarves. Theyre just not pretty, which is almost ironic. Theyre THE tolkien race, yet no modern person likes them. Shows how modern audience is Maplestory tier while older fans are more closer to the roots.
>>750456036Mostly that I missed out on most of SoD due to IRL stuff so I am kind of coping by hoping (bars) that I can get a small sense of that feeling with Forever.
>>750456063
>>750455497It's pretty fun to play with a friend, yeah. The new MMO hype alone will be worth the 15 bucks a month IMO.
>>750456096Maplestory character look like dwarf though but they call Asian dwarves "chibi" for some reason
>>750447124dwarves are fugly who the fuck would play 1 if theyre not already ugly
>>750456128SOD was okayI recommend Project Gorgon if you really want the true "old-school MMO" experience
>>750455668>people trying to find ways to make life easier for themSo you agree that right wingers are evil because they seek to benefit themselves even if it means giving power to a serial con artist and child rapist who promised to destroy lives and fulfilled that promise? Good , I'm glad we're on the same page
>>750456267theyre cool, you should be ugly as a man, elf faggot
>>750456267cause soul
>750456460bro you're so desperate for replies its pathetic
>>750456460>So you agree that right wingers are evil because they seek to benefit themselvesthere's nothing evil about self preservation of your family, values, and faction.
>>750456159>The new MMO hype alone will be worth the 15 bucks a month IMO.You would be right. Even if the expansion is shit (like Midnight was), it's still really fun to play something at release. Like, imagine 4chan but you can attack other people, and that's what WoW Forever will be. This place would be way better if you could kill half of the populace.Plus, anyone who can't be killed can be /ignored, so technically you can kill everyone. That's why WoW is the best.
>>750456527Right-wingers are literally being cut off from their families because they voted for a felonious pedophile purely to spite their own families though? Is "Spite" your value? Spite is evil, anon
>>750456630leftists are the last people to talk about cutting people out of anything. Not only do they self isolate from their family just for being called the "wrong pronoun, voting for trump, or any other slight that they take more than it really is like a child", but they kick out anyone from their groups who thinks differently or even breaks one of their progressive rules. Which is exactly why Blizzard is an echo chamber of the same leftist values.
>>750456719Annnnd there's the victimhood complex, right on cue, no wonder your families are cutting you guys off, you're all insufferable!
>750456767dude shut up. Im literally highlighting your stupid team faggotry and youre being a retard as I keep saying. Fuck off.
>>750437240seriously guys, what other shit can they mine and plunder from WC1/WC2/WC3 for WoW?I think they've completely run dry, they're now force to add NEW shit to WoW instead.
>>750456767>defending yourself is bad, letting your enemies kill you is good >>750455290
>>750456846>no no no, I'm not insufferable, I was actually holding up a MIRROR to show YOU how insufferable YOU are! Because this is about YOU!Yeah the reflexive whataboutism is also part of why you keep getting cut off from your families too
>>750456846>I won't give you a (You)! But I WILL continue pissing and shitting myself in your direction!Migger meltyThere's nothing more pathetic than the impotent sniveling of someone too selfish to help others but too cowardly to take from others
>>750457076Too bad that they cannot create anything new because homosexuality is sterile.
>>750437302Forever is shit but I'm glad it makes HEfags seeth.
>>750456527>preservation of your valuesThose values being:1. Child molestation2. Theft of public funds3. Dropping bombs on school4. Destruction of the natural worldI agree, the right wing platform is really preserving those values
>>750457076>they're now force to add NEW shit to WoW I thought Mists of Pandaria was the best original expansion that didn't rely on anything from WC3 or earlier.i wonder if it was just a fluke.
>>750457434MoP was boring as fuck. Chinese theme is not interesting.
>>750455931Hit is also capped. If you have a hit racial it means that hit can be wasted on optimal gear sets, which means it can be useless. It makes endgame gearing more of a headache for both the dwarves and their guilds. Its not bad obviously but a standard crit boost was just a flat damage output wouldve made life easier.
>>750437240>2026>*coughcough* pls bros.... h-home.... one-one more time... this time...[FELL FOR IT FOREVER GALACTIC CHAMPIONS]
If MrVoletron comes back and makes music from Forever I will buy a year sub
>>750437302How hard would it be to just ad ogres to horde and high-elves to aliance?
>>750437302>>750437467metzen unironically has a cuck chair for sure
>>750457402You are too insensible to sense that they voted for what he promised before his election, not the lies and shenanigans he did after he got elected as if the average voter back in 2024 was supposed to know what we do now in the future, you absolute evil retard.
>>750457640Those are things only straight men who vote red want, and blizzard doesnt want anything to make the old audience happy. All the changes in progressive media is just out of spite toward straight men and nerds.
>>750457510>he's not going home
>>750451596it takes two and a half minutes of uninterrupted running to reach 60%any combat quickly removes all your stacks requiring you to build them back up
>>750448804>You have to kill 50+ harpies in the barrens for 8 slayer rings for you and one other personsign me the fuck up
These threads are so gay. Same shit every time.>waaaaaahhhh I hate wow I hate blizzard waaaaaahhh>continues to post in every single wow thread the femtosecond he sees it on the catalogactual subhuman freaks
>>750454482You forgot the modern devs fucking with Classic class design and making several of them play worse than Classic or even completely breaking certain specs.
>>750457941>actual subhuman freaks>wowtroon calls anybody subhuman freaks
If, after all of the bullshit, you fall for this god damn shilling AGAIN and give Blizzard you money you need to chemically castrate yourselves. Its over. You are not a man anynmore. You are not even a cuck. You are something even more vile beneath that.
>>750458092Fools and their money are soon departed.
>>750458092Indians bro. These WoWsissies are Indians.
>check forever changes>racials gutted>dungeon xp gutted>warriors guttedfeels like they gutted everything that made the game fun, might still play it with friends but im not particularly excited about it
>>750458204+ no world buffs in raid this shit will be so boring after a month
Goood moringing sires Are we yet ready for name reservining? Soon to be 1:00 pm at the blizzard office where our humble masters readying server
>>750437240>"Perhaps saying no vertical progression at Blizzcon was a mistake"If you fall for this again you need to end it all. There is simply no hope left for you. The Ur Rube.
>>750458121the same could be said about fools and their time, and here you are, posting in a thread about a game you have no interest in, thank you for your time
>>750457716Yes I agree, right wing voters are so blinded by their incoherent hatred for anyone that isn't exactly like them that they continue to be fooled again and again by a senile golem who did the exact same thing in 2016. Those sensible people sensed that the entire Republican party has thrown their lot in with a serial con artist who has spent the last few decades lying and cheating others to enrich themselves, but they are so determined to destroy the targets of their hatred that they will fall for anything that suggests falsely even the slightest intention to harm them on their behalf. You and I are in perfect agreement so I don't know why you are being so hostile, friend.
>>750458630at least this time is going to 4chan and not the tranny blizzard company
>>750458630Of all the places you could be of all the things you could be doing you choose to interact with me, that's really amazing and I will treasure every moment and every feeling for without this connection between humans how would we know we are even human? I dont know but please dont corpse camp me im playing alliance pvp and I will have a pony related name
>>750458653Childish projections. You are what we call a "retard", the word banned on Youtube, someone late in development. Maybe if you had been called that more often you wouldn't have lagged behind.
I was going to do hunter, but I think I'm going to zero hour a warlock even though I played one in Classic and original WotlK. It's been 7 years, so it shouldn't feel stale. Being able to summon people will help when my lower level friends need a dungeon run
>>750458276no world buffs is one of their best decisionsit's cringe and very reddit to be expected to come to raid with stacked world buffs
>>750459184>it's cringe and very reddit to be expected to come to raid with stacked world buffsthen don't join a speed run raid.>every raid was doing thatliterally not true
It wont be though? Like logically it will inevitably shut down
>>750437240...TOGETHER!!
>>750458276honestly i like that change, world buffs are fun and all but it blows that your raid night is over if you die once, plus having both shaman and pally buffs kinda evens it out
been playing on a classic wotlk private server for a couple of months now, no rmt/p2w, anything, just a 3.3.5a client and a lot of people playingthat being said I'm hopping on in half hour to create three characters in forevert. blast haver
controversial opinion: I think levelling is too quickthe only part that feels slowish is 25-35 or so, everything after that is a breezedon't get me started on TBC. I remember gaining like 4 (four) levels doing just the quests in Hellfire Peninsula, and Outland has what, 6 zones? For us questdoers the exp gain should be 0.5x at most.
>>750459671opt-in halved xp rates was a feature in peepoch and turdle, blizz will probably steal the idea eventually
>>750459802Warmane 1x realm (Lordaeron) has a 0.5x switch.
Are horde and alliance going to be balanced in playerbase or will one have too much players?
they should steal what they did on turtle were consumes last trough dead inside instances, makes their prices dirt cheap and people always pop them because there is no fear of losing them even when you are with some random pub or in a dungeon
>>750459917There's a forced balance system (for PVP) where if one side too many, you can only make characters on the other side.
>>750459917I expect a strong horde skew for awhile because undead pallies are the new hotnesswhen they realize classic paladin is boring and they all reroll it’ll either equalize or lean alli because that’s where the streamers are
>>750437302"high elves" on alliance is not lore friendly at all, though, even if we don't include WoW's own story.
>>75045991755:45 alliance:horde on pvp servers and 70:30 on pve
>>750448194Lol they really do need to give them broken racials like everyone was saying. I bet even if the had blood fury and berserker combined they would still be a tough sell for most people.
>>750448194shaman healing is fucking boring so you're not missing out on much
>>750460065And then once the streamers leave it will heavily skew horde again. They basically made all these megaservers faerlina 2.0
>>750448194I’m rolling hpal despite the dooming
quick should I make an undead rogue or hunter, I think hunter in the end cause ganking niggas gets old quick and hunter has more util in pvp which will ultimately be my poison
>>750460049They should have just stole Turtle entirely, it's honestly the better product at least for the first 30 levels.
I'll post couple reminders for everyone.WOW has never rewarded explorationQuests are abyss tier garbageMost liked expansion: wotlk plays exactly like retail -> queue simulator + raid logging
>>750460681???Rogue doesn't get ganked unless you're terrible. you DO the ganking. If what you said is your main motivation then rogue is the choice, no contest.
>>750460834yes I know I do it and it gets old quick and is not my main motivation in the long run
it's 6PM CET and I can't hit play in bnet to create characters wtf
>>750460903then consider that paladin is very popular, enhancement shaman will exist unlike Classic, warrior is always popular, and you're going to join the warlocks in getting melee choo choo trained in BGs. Without disengage launching you 200 yards backwards and a deadzone, you may not find it that fun a lot of the time>t. played hunter in original WoW
Why would you pay for a name reservation? Unique names are going to have thousands of combinations with last names, unless you want some meme-stupid shit name.
>>750460736>wotlk plays exactly like retailYou haven't played retail in over 10 years. It's no longer raid logging and nothing worthwhile is queueable, it is actually much, much worse in the post-M+ world.
>>750460991Are you Europe? Europe is first and then North America in three hours.
>>750461030Won't melee get destroyed if they charge in? I thought ranged would dominate in PvP with big groups.
>>750461138yeah I am Europe and the Play button is greyed out
>>750461198Same. Some guildies are at the playstyle select screen though.
>>750460680>Aggrend will buff paladins and everything will be alright.
>>750461198People on Reddit are posting in-game screenshots, but they can't pick a ruleset lol. Maybe the game needs an update.
>>750441659i would add a pandaren female as my wife and breed her until she can't give birth anymore
Racials updated again, we won orc and undead bros
>>750438457No it isn't.
I find it pretty crazy you can have hundreds of players in the same region fighting and it's still a smooth experience without any insane lag.I guess realmless servers are a good thing.
>>750461361>>750461356it's still not working reeeeee
Still not able to launch...
>open game folder to see if i can run the .exe>game starts>No realms are currently available.RIP. I guess NA really is in 3 hours.
>>750458204>racials guttedGood. Your race choice should only be decided by aesthetics and not min max faggotry>dungeon xp guttedGood. Fuck boosts and fuck mage AoE spam.Dungeon quest XP got doubled so the XP nerf will barely affect normal players.>warriors guttedGood. Stacking 10 Fury warriors in raids is fucking retarded and cringe.
>>750437240Forever trans.
>>750448686I think the problem the alliance has is it doesn't have as many horde counterparts. There were originally just going to be 3 races on each side but they started working on trolls and realized they should just be on the horde. So they had to give alliance something so they gave them gnomes which only ever appeared in the warcraft point and click game that never released. Now horde should get goblins and ogre before they start getting weird/new stuff but what should alliance get? High elves and?
>>750461742I can't get the game to start at all, the Play button is all grey and shit. I only have the Skyborne Heroic Pack but it says it's got name rez too. Shiiieeet.
>>750461360Mein Führer, paladins have lost the pvp tournament, warlocks win rate is nearly 80%
Mates who made it ingame post screenshots of a message ingame saying that name reservations are delayed due to technical difficulties.It doesnt say for how long..
>>750451686no it's not it works indoors, in combat, and in bgsyou are fucking retarded a hunter tauren is going to be catchable it makes stealth in cat form 30% faster instead of 30% slower
>>750441303This lol. All of the stir around this made me actually consider WoW a potentially viable game for the first time since WOD but the baby blue disney pixar elves made it crystal clear that the franchise can stay dead and buried in my memories where nublizzard fags can't ruin it. I had a friend offer me some kind of early access or week 1 access twice but I turned him down both times. The devs heads are obviously anywhere but classic and it's blantantly obvious that they're doing this begrudgingly and will take every opportunity to subvert and ruin it.
>>750460290ThisGoing off the original WC3 lore there's no way they would join the Alliance after the bullshit Garithos pulled. The only thing keeping them from the Horde would be if the Amani were on good terms with Thrall's Horde.As gay as it would be, the High Elf remnants who didn't interact with Garithos would probably stay Alliance and the Blood Elves who were on the front lines of the third war would be Horde (barring the Amani joining).So still the neutral race faggotry, but they'd have different starting zones.
>>750438368I mean with the mega realms it's already fucked up, every server is PST based so the day/night cycle is already not correct for most people. Another reason why mega server are retarded and just a way for Blizzard to spend less money on infrastructure, but they will tell you it's really about community.
>>750441303There's no way people are actually this autistic and superficial.
FUCK MY NIGGER LIFEI JUST REALISED THE FOREVER BETA AND FOREVER ARE TWO DIFFERENT INSTALLSSo, I have to install Forever, lol. I'm not Europe anyway.
>streamers getting carried through dungeon 6 levels below req turning in red dungeon quests levels up 2 times, this means the XP was too high so they nerfed it for everyone.This game is fucking over if they focus on what the 0.1% is doing and balance around them.
>>750451686It becomes obsolete at 40 when you get your mount. Hell, it even becomes obsolete for Druids at 30 with travel form or Hunters with Cheetah.Plains running is a very fucking meme of racial just like all the Tauren racials. My cowboys got hit hard with this shit.If we're honest all races are shit now except for Humans, gay elves (alliance), maybe Orcs and MAYBE undead.
>>750462112European here, they delayed it anyway.
>>750444081People would look at that, pick two or three bosses, and ignore everything else.Blizz is just catering to the player base.
>>750462386>they delayed it anyway.Oh, did they? Maybe Europe and NA will happen at the same time. It's 2 hours 30 minutes from now.
>>750462310they should nerf them more
>>750461892>it works indoors, in combat, and in bgsYou know damn well it doesn't work in combat. And they will make damn sure it doesn't work indoors.
Sword/crit nerf on humans really making me second guess on rolling a human rogue, I hate NuBlizzard
>going Undead PriestThe entire zone is gonna be completely fucked isn't it?
I will be roleplaying and not caring about balance.
>>750454482>This race having 1% to crit ruins the gameunironically. Funny how a single digit can ruin the whole balance of a game, uh? But alas, Humans will always be the favorite race by de facto.
>>750437240what
>>750462557I remember making an Undead during the Classic re-release and it was pretty heavy. Forever is WoW Christmas: going home edition, so expect there to be 10 dudes for every mob, because everyone wants to be a Paladin. The only respite would be playing during odd hours when the normies are asleep/aren't home.
>>750448194Night Elf Priest
>>750462374Undead just got buffed but their crying psyop wasnt good enough to get their racial back to its OP status. Honestly I'd say horde racials are very slightly better than alli overall now if you ignore the weird skelf leyline shit but this is by far the closest racials have been in any official classic variant.
>>750462557Oh yes
>>750462557you probably want to think about skipping tirisfal and going to durotar asapto quest instead if it’s as a bad as I think it will beat least you’ll still have priest trainers over there
>>750462458boy oh boy i can't wait to corpse jump all the way to hall of thanes chasm so i can get 0.5 of a level
>>750455938>No, let's make yet another elf race and color it blue>and charge $30 for ityup it's kino. I love watching the whole butt fucking blizzshits take without hesitation. I get more enjoyment from all of this than I'd get with their games.
>>750463056going to be bad over there too, Orc is pretty popular still and then you have a sprinkling of trolls>t. undead lock who was considering the same thing
>>750462463i played the beta it works in combat and indoors dumbass
>>750452803>I'm asking for ogres>But I will never ever ever play ogres
>>750455982naga models are already capable of wearing more gear than drakthyrsame with vrykul, forest and ice trolls, and basically every single NPC models are capable of wearing gear. the fucking standards are "shoulderpads and a belt buckle" for god's sake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPbTAXZL_2Aof course the Alliance try to roll in with superior numbers but undead paladin saves the day
>>750449531where can I find the full pic of this, I keep getting redirected to russian resellers
RATE IThttps://youtu.be/NPbTAXZL_2A
>>750437240>>750437302The blue elves thing might be to stop people from making them black and bait-posting it here.They can only be blue or white, right?
>>750463296Cringe is not the 00s anymore; they should have added something original
>Gilneas is very obviously the 2027 summer content patch. >Tons of new leveling quests and secret dungeon bosses allude to Argual, the worgen curse and Gilneas>No one knows what's gonna happen with the worgen themselves>Will they join alliance, horde or be druid forms>if they do join a faction what will the parallel race be?The bug rumor is they are going horde so horde has a parallel to dalaran instead of just a big tent for the earthen ring
>>750463271>stronk womynIt's over, this company is too far gone
>>750463403Shitty zoomer taste wasn't considered. AMVs are kino.
>>750463271heh, if california died tomorrow, no one would miss them
>>750463403the retards playing this shit mentally stagnated in the 00s, this shit is for them to gobble up
>>750463240i will play ogres and only ogres when they let me
>>750441579why, w-what did she do for or t-to you?
>>750463296I thought it was pretty good, 6/10.
>>750448068Why did they suddenly decide to make trolls the homo faction?
>>750437240Just in time for the next historic iteration of bots,undetectable AI bots. Sure it might be detectable after playing with them, but once it takes say, 3 minutes of effort to figure out whether someone is a bot. Just that feeling is going kill the whole world.
>>750463474I'm 35; players used this shit because it's what you listened to in high school, and if Blizzard uses it, it loses value and becomes just a soulless corporate ad. But whatever, if you like that, that's fine anon, enjoy the game!
>>750461769good for who
>>750463398Lmao didnt know they nerfed the barely existent jiggle. These troon devs are so fucking far gone it's unreal. Also, of course the pixar elves can be black people, look at the devs youre talking about.
I want to play hunter but I also kinda want to be able to heal.
>>750463398wrong lmaodid you forget this was nublizzard?
>>750463861You can heal your pet.
>>750463115mulgore is gonna be comfytauren are historically underplayed, most druids will be playing skelfs now
>>750463849>color options: Normal, Nigger, Mental Illness.you love to see it
What the fuck is wrong with people who play WoW? Why are they literally all mentally ill retards?
>>750464121heh
>>750464145Have you even played WoW Forever?
>black elves>black gnomes>black dwarvesI have black fatigue. And liberal arts fatigue.
>>750454450Man, Turtle sure sounds great. Where can I play it?
>>750437302Turtle trannies need to hang
>>750464145Maybe they're normal, and it is you who needs help
>>750464145arrested developmentcan't socialize or grow up or develop yourself as a person, there's pixels to farmvirtual crackheads, all of them
>>750448194I genuinely don't understand the dwarf hate.
>>750464145>play easy game their whole life>get carried>never develop skillIt's ain't rocket surgery.
>>750451596Planeswalking was the original tauren mount in beta vanilla wow but it obviously couldn't compete with the other races mounts since it needs constant movement you absolute fucking retarded nigger
>>750437302Finally rhe master race will have its day. How you gonna handle us moo druids and hunters performing mount speed drivebys on your towns Alliance-cucks
>>750437240you guys playing Azeroth Survivors?
Remarkable how this skyborne shit aborted any desire I had to play this garbage
>>750464937no, i already played the real vampire survivors and a few other spinoffs. why would i play a vibecoded spinoff? just because it's wow? who would do that other than blizzard cultists who can only play things that have the blizzard brand on them
people complaining about how busy the starting zones will be aren’t considering how aggressive the layering iseven if tirisfal is jam packed there’s a good chance you get dropped into a dead world with like 4 other people
What server do I play on to avoid streamers and their annoying fans
>>750465059Retail.
lol does classic still have that tag only one mob per person? That gay limitation is just another thing keeping me from playing.
>>750465059rp
>>750465059Privately hosted server with friends and family
>>750465038>dead world with like 4 other peopleperfection
>>750465059pvp
>>750464937its mehdon’t like how the minibosses are tethered to one small spot
>>750465059Thats the neat part. You dont. Everything is a megaserver now so you can roll pve to be with assmadfags, pvp with esfag, or roll horde to be met with gay reddit tauren orgies. Your only hope is to be in eu or make very liberal use of the olympusmute addon and block every annoying guild you see(my plan)
>>750465125you can just invite people to your party to share tags
>>750437240What is the best way to play this game on a private server without the fear of it shutting down or accidentally getting banned for saying a gamer word? Not that I am intending to drop a bomb in chat or something but I just think not getting banned for chat is a prerequisite for a community that is not total AIDS.
>>750465059RP. Most faggotry from streamers and their orbiters are bannable offenses.
>>750465335pservs are fucked right now buddy. Ascension and Turtle sucked up everyone willing to play them and then got murdered. There's a few vibeslopped turtle clones if you're truly desperate but try to have a shred of self-respect
>>750463296Not my type of music, sounds like some shitty league of legends yearly song they do. Cool animation but I don't see why there's an imbalance between the male and female characters. Also couldn't tell if the orc's a rogue or a fury warrior, if he's a rogue at least they represented the 9 classes.
>>750444081>Skip everything to farm the last boss for HoJ/Ironfoe.
Bros what ruleset are we playing, gotta lock in my characters today
>>750465335A local hosted solo server on your machine. Pservers are going through an AIslop crisis with endless gimmickslop being churned out and more down to earth servers are being cucked until Blizztroons realize Blizzard's about to shit the bed again with Foever.
>>750465059asmongold is going pve so he cant get ganked while having his thousand of slaves griefing everyonesoda and the others are going pveso the safest choices are probably rp-pvp and rp
>>750465059You'll almost never interact with them because they'll all cram into their own layers.
>>750465601we are all on pvp ally
>>750465601rp-pvp
>>750465661>soda and the others are going pvpfixed
ok how about u just play dungeon & dragons online insteaduse code "BIGBYISBETTER" for a bunch of free dlc good til nov 10th or some shit
>>750465838buy an ad
>>750448765Gilneas leaving the alliance of lordaeron was over Gilneas wanting to kill the warcraft 2 orcs and not put them in prison campsThis makes no sense.
>>750449531jesus christ it really is impossible to find the source of this
>>750462041Since it doesn't affect gameplay or anything literally and is a cosmetic why not have it sync to the players time? Too hard for small indie dev?
>>750462104Superficial like the devs making a non canon paid race?
>>750465987what fish you catch is determined by the time or day
>>750465661>>750465059>rp server is social server>antisocial fags exodus to itThey'll be on their own layer that new players will likely get kicked out of since they will be fullThis will unironically ruin the rp servers when anti social fags that make decisions based on ecelebs end up on the rp server turning it into an avoidant personality disorder hellscape.
>tripfagGo ahead and ruin the RP servers guys.
>>750466034>non canon Canon now, complete with Metzen's blessing. Unless you were just extremely attached to skywall lore from cata.
>>750466291looking forward to your >money stolen thread
>>750466070you don't have to be social on an RP server, you can just get tagged for being a dick
>>750444251 could be worse, You could be Dwarf shaman.
>>750466337Turn it back on you you stay filtered, faggot.
>>750437240What,, why would they fuck over orcs, I wanted to play orc rouge and though going axes was cool, nope ok but the crit change was fine works for everything nope... What even is the best pve rouge race now? Feel the class got shafted for horde.
>>750466317There's no reason for it to exist
>>750466291nypa
>>750466390easy invites to every group by virtue of being literally the only shamans on alliance
>>750466517still orc for horde. troll might pull ahead on some bosses
>NOOOOO NOT MY HECKING 1% CRIT RACIAL NOW I’LL NEVER GET INVITED TO MC!!!!!classicfags are so brainrotted its insane
>>750466651Doesnt make them the best, considerably they are worse then any shaman that the Horde being the best of the worst is not something Iam too happy about, Especially after years of Playing Horde Kino.
PvP and PvE ruined due to streamersRP and RPPvP are home to the most obnoxious playersThere is no winning is there
>>750466764Was looking at troll, orc feels bad simply because they have a whole passive that's useless now : (
>>750437240I like the sky elves.
>>750466885enrage is still a stronger racial than berserking by a good amountultimately you should go for aesthetics
>>750466957berserking just got buffed to 15s
>>750467071That might make the dps even with orc, i think troll was just behind
None of this bitching even matters, it all comes down to how blizzard handles the economy and bots. For decades people have been spamming that blizz prefers the bot accounts to casual players thanks to revenue and this will be the final example.If the economy ends up just like classic then its over and people can finally leave wow in peace knowing blizzard simply is no longer up to the task. Yes it will require ai tools to track and monitor things but this is the "big thing" they have been talking about for years if they can't keep the "big thing" in check what was even the point.After wow forever fails can we finally admit that western devs should stay out of MMOs for good?
I CANT FUCKING WAIT I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS GAME I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT MY MAIN WILL BE FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>750467265until blizzard releases classic for the fifth time and people come crawling backblizzard cultists are part of the problem too
why are nigger elves/dwarves/gnomes/orcs baffling but nigger humans are okay?
>>750467312let /v/ decideor just pick a role, then a faction
>>750467312fem gnome warrior with pink pigtails
>>750467265Blizzard won't do shit about the bots, they have already given up with their piss poor attempt at "fixing" it by having a NPC that sells all crafting mats at a set mark up. They think they can lock the economy with set prices instead of paying some people to actually find and ban botters. They do like the bots, they are paying customers with no opinion on how the game should be
>>750464937Yep and I'm fucking addicted. It one shotted me no joke. I already maxxed 8 out of the 9 classes, only druid is left buy holy shit is it boring.
I just hope they are done with racial changes because it would be fucked if they change everything again after
>>750467526they aren't gonna change racials once the game releases. its all still malleable till then thoughi'd like to see them go over priest spells again. gnomes are too powerful. even though i was gonna play one anyway
>>750467485What’s your strat with pally?I specced into ret and try to stack as much CD reduction as I can early on. Could probably do a garlic meme strat with consecrate and bubble but haven’t really tried.
>>750467565Isn't that a problem with early names being released in 2 hours, if you make an orc hunter and they actually we want to make him a shaman focuses race now. That would completely spoil it
>>750466536All lore in all properties is made up for no reason at some point.
>>750467670I went Prot with a bit of Ret. Full Ret didn't click for me the first time while Prot is nearly immortal, just stack damage to compensate. I will try Ret again and see how it fares now that I have more experience with the game.
>>750465059there is no server you can choose yet every single zone is a separate server so you can never interact with anyone. leaving a dungeon group has your groupmates just disappear into the ether never to be seen again. i dont understand how anyone can stand to play this bullshit, it is like the most antisocial mmo ever created. did none of you people who are having a blast in this nublizz layering shitfest ever play wow in its actual unaltered state, where you see the same guys multiple times while leveling? this shit has been fucking ruined by this fuck ass layering system, the most kino moments i have ever had while playing wow were shit like seeing the hunter who saved me from getting killed when i was level 13 at level 25, saving him in turn, we both remember eachother, level for a few days together, make a guild... etc etcadd onto that the fact that the devs already backtracked/admitted to lying about half the shit they talked about at blizzcon, shit like "ohhhh no, by horizontal progression we never meant we would make it so that old content doesnt become redundant as soon as a new patch comes out lol, we meant we would make 2 new leveling zones and 2 more leveling dungeons xD".all this other bullshitting about racials and niggerlicious nonissues that only streamers care about is precisely because they want to obfuscate the fact that the aspects most central to a healthy player centered MMO - the social aspect and horizontal progression - are completely lacking and they have NO plans to improve or change them.
>>750467312You could make one of every class and go from there. I usually like figuring out how I want my class+race combos will be first even when I know what I'll main.>>750467463Or this.
>you can start the game but you can't make a characterAre these nigger for real
>>750468626the game's not out yet retard
>>750468445>there is no server you can choose yet every single zone is a separate server so you can never interact with anyone.wow that's tremendously gay, what a retarded decision on blizzards part. socializing is one of the draws of the game to me and they're making it fucking matchmaking which is the opposite of socialization
i'm confused, doesn't phasing already accomplish what realmless servers do?
>>750462104I'm not addicted to WoW, I can just play other games if they don't make the game I want.I quit because the lore stopped making sense and wasn't grounded in the setting they had built up.They won't pull me back in by making the same mistake.
>rolling RP-PVPBro that's just real life, you're already in that realm.
>>750437240every time i see this picture it just reeks of disney. i don't know why. never played wow in my life and never will
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>>750468725yes, essentially every zone border makes you hop to a different layer (meaning a different server with different people). so there are hundreds of clips floating around of people looking out of the gates of orgrimmar and seeing a hundred people PvPing, then they step outside and everyone fades out of existence as you are switched to a different layer where there are 2 people and 3 tumbleweeds there.i saw a guy on youtube use far sight on a shaman toon to go into ironforge when he was outside, and its even worse - not even the NPCs are loaded. Basically only a small radius around the zone border is ever loaded to give you an illusion that the rest of the zone is loaded, but it isn't. we are going back to pre vanilla times.oh, and did i mention that GENERAL CHAT IS PER-LAYER. so you can't even CHAT with people without getting interrupted by layering bullshit. yes, i am not fucking kidding. there is no room for organic player interaction in this game. you either join some streamers faggy guild or you stay perma alone. you change layers during a fucking boat ride ffs. or there is another famous clip of a guy getting ganked by lots of horde outside of deadmines, him and his group retreat to STV, they get more people with them, go back north to attack the horde... and everyone fades out of existence around the guy who organized the thing as he is sent on a layer with 2 chinese bots and 3 tumbleweeds. wow forever is antithetical to organic player interaction. the devs know this which is why they are completely ignoring this and trying to push it as "megaservers" when they arent, its "every zone is a separate server and you randomly get assigned one whenever you cross between zones or areas we designate as possibly problematic because of too many players interacting there at once"
>>750467712what are the odds that your two word name gets taken in the 10 seconds it takes to reclaim it?
>>750469423pretty high since Retardditors were talking about vibe coding AI bots to spam the names to take them from people who do this
>>>/vg/
Tyrese Lannister
>>750469578Smallie Bigs
wowoids are literal subhumans.
>>750469412I'd say this is due to them optimizing the game but... what is there to optimize?? It's been 20 years, everyone has better computers, and better internet connections. Surely it can't be necessary to do this
>>750469553and how are they going to learn what your name is to take it?
>>750470153cute self portrait XIVsister
>>750469412so asmonlayer spam is ironic shitposting now? love it
I don't see RP-PvP as an option.
>>750469412This is all true, but it was also confirmed that the beta server was running shit a little different so it may act different on the real servers (this is cope please let me believe for a week)
>>750470447>moviegame boogeyman out of nowherebuckbroken
>>750469016The smurf elves are very disney, yes. Them, the weird fox furries in retail and the gender neutral faggot dragons also in retail are all very disney.
>>750470279this is due to them "optimizing" away the cost it would take for them to have actual megaservers, or keep the realm system as it existed. Do you really think they are optimizing to make YOUR experience better? lol. It's just much cheaper for a small company like blizzard to cut costs by having lots of small servers instead of investing in a smaller number of bigger server architecture. If they could feasibly do so, they would make it so you were relegated to a shard of 20 people, each of whom was locally eating the cost of hosting distributedly. Blizzard just found a way to fuck YOU over, make your experience worse, and repackaged it somehow into the word "megaserver" which is the classic blizzard strategy of "oh we just changed the definition of something good to mean something completely different and shit" and then backtrack 6 months later after they get pushback from the drones and they already made a billion in sales.
>>750467265The economy will end up like Classic because the "bots" people complain about aren't actually bots, they're just third worlders. When you can grind gold in WoW for a day and sell it to get a week's income, then some people will do just that. You can't ban a human for playing the game. You can at best try to ban gold transfers but there's enough gray area with tipping, laundering through the AH, GDKPs, and guild banks that players will find a way to do it.
>>750454631What? Has the actual server code for turtle been released?
That Name is restricted.Character creation timed out.
The community is really important, that's why we are fracturing it into thousands of micro servers that you can't even browse though, you will get auto sorted into a new layer whenever it the algorithm decides it can save some money. The community is very important, so well show you when you pass by a random player who last week threw int buff onto you while running past each other. The community is the most important thing in keeping a game alive so we stopped you from reaching 98% of other players when you talk in trade chat (they are on other layers you can't get to)
>>750471084the third worlders are the ones running the bots anon
>>750470974Shit reminds me of how diablo 4 is set up, absolutely instanced to hell
>>750471603This has been the blizzard modus operandi for lots of years now. You can bet that whichever network engineer came up with the idea is the hero of the shareholder meetings and he (or his boss at least) is getting an insane bonus every quarter for successfully relegating the "legacy costs" of actually running servers for MMOs. Because the massively multiplayer part of MMOs can be done away with with manipulative enough marketing and a gullible enough market.
we're autosagingmake a new thread for our general sisters
i can't log in broshow am i gonna reserve my awesome name now
it'd be hilarious if the reason certain races don't have different ethnicities only "white" ethnicity, is because all the other blacks/browns/yellows/reds got genocided and thus only "white" orcs/elves exist...except for humans who are strangely diverse for some reason.
