can someone tldr me on this gameis it its own story like every other FF or is it dependent on one of em? Looks like a good jump-into-jrpg if no connection
maybe ask twitter instead of asking here because clearly that is the main social media site that you use
>>750381497just play the demo brainless cut
>>750381726oh yeah demos exist now
FF7R launched on PS4 first btwRebirth launched on PS5 first15 and 16 were ported way after consoles
>>750381497De-gacha'd mobile game. Pretty good turn based combat. Pretty cheap looking hd2d + filters and ugly UI. Super gimmicky nostagia bait "love letter" to a series that's been mostly shit for 20 years. But you can probably still enjoy it without knowing all the references.
>>750381497It is its own story with its own characters.The fanservice from other games is limited to something akin to secondary jobs. You collect them (1 from each game and a couple of OCs) and can use them for build crafting. They just stand behind you like a Jojo stand. That's the extent of it. No connection outside of gameplay reasons.
>>750381497>yet another unpaid marketer shill thread
Now that it's doing better than Rebirth, expect the positivity around this game to suddenly evaporate. A lot of bad will incoming from insecure 7R fans.
Coolhttps://steamcharts.com/app/427520
>>750381497This was the cashgrab version of Octopath 0
>>750381497>start a thread with either Steam chart or a twatter screenshot>OP is a retardEvery single time.
>>750382636The only way to make FF numbers look good is to compare them to other FF numbers that are even worse.
>>750382365Good job! Next, we will blame Resonancefags for the next FF game
>>750383030I'm already pissed off at the thought of someone criticizing XVII in any way.
>>750383071Based tendiebro, larping as a FF fag to ruin their threads is so fun
>>750381497>>750381497demo counts as played game
>>750383086Oh I cannot wait. I don't want to say I'm a zeldafag too much though...what if ff17 is succesful? I want to say I buy it + a game I want to shill
>>750381497Veilguard, Marathon and Assassin's Creed Niggers all reached higher numbers
>>750383106no, demo has a different app id
>>750381497Max is such a fake FF fan that he didn't even bother to check this out. Even fucking DSP played Resonance!!!
>>750383320Is he a FF fan or a FF7 fan?
>>750383315NOOOOOOO MY NARRATIVE ACK-
>>750381882Why are people going so crazy over a mobile game port?
>>750383320this conman changes his narrative constantly, what a hack
>>750381497I think the game is horrible. Too loud, too epic, too much happening right from the start. It's like flanderized Call of Duty JRPG.
>>750383106>>750383315btfo
>>750383413It's basically rebuilt from the ground up to the point where it's not really recognisable. The story was also above average so it's nice to have that rescued from mobile jail.
>>750383086Actually I was making fun of an FF schizo who was unironically already getting mad at any potential FFXVII criticism no matter what it was, lol.
>>750383071This fag is a mindbroken schizophrenic shitposter, by the way. He believes in nothing. There's no agenda but to got (You)s from shitposting furiously about FF by any means possible. He'll play all sides of an argument, take on any role, all to get (You)s. He spends his entire life doing this and even has a dedicated samefag setup. You're all getting gaslit by his madness. The only thing he wants is that you join in.
>>750384226Don't forget the most important part: I always win.
>>750381497What a sad tweet. Yeah it peaked at 40k but that's not big for a simultaneous multiplat day one PC release. FFXV, both FF7R and FFXVI were all delayed ports. Same happens to Sony ports.
>>750381786>remake of the most popular ff ever>two mainline titles with ridiculous production value and advertisement >a repurposed gacha gameyou lost
>>750384423it's huge for a jrpg
>>750384457Huge is a really strong word. It's alright. In the same ballpark.
>>750384457
>>750384226Is it this guy?https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/vy2sNzHyCv3bMzGVOLcz2w/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/5d0vMME6OIT_O1HlbyYa6A/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/VB8-79eFO2lgg1qab07GLw/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/nrfKTAZyG1TYhkaabnv4jA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/turd%20based%20suicide/
>>750384549No, that's BA7RY
>>750384226Square Enix mindbroke tendies and atlusfags hard
>>750381497Isnt this first FF that released on Steam day 1 since like...Jacks game?
>>750384589Jack's game was epic exclusive
>>750384457This counts as a JRPG I think
>>750384418Genshin raped you hard btw
>>750384549Jesus christ
>>750384515>>750384546>digimon's peak is almost double than deload's comedic
>>750384454Everyone who cared played it on playstation
>>750382946Evidently true
>>750384615Wait really? Then its been even longer. Faggot in OP is pushing narrative with numbers without providing proper context.
>>750384515>>750384546>fully 3d productions>digimonwhy not compare it to pokemon while you're committed to intellectual dishonesty?
>>750384549I unironically think ba7ry might be worse than barry
>>750384693>show any game outdoing 7R>THAT DOESN'T COOOOOOOOOOOOOUNTEverySingleTime
>>750384728those screens were in comparison to resonance, retard
>>750384693My brother in Kami, they chose to make it 2D sprite in the current year with Square's prestige and budget. It's what put it on the map in the first place.>digimonNot even a vidya franchise. I'd expect a legacy 40 years old vidya brand such as FF to compete with it at least.
>>750384760So it's fair to compare those sales to 7R? Just so I know for the future
>>750384680Square had some kind of deal with Epic, 7Remake port was also EGS only for a time
>>750384770>they chose to make it 2D spriteok that's not the point?> I'd expect a legacy 40 years old vidya brand such as FF to compete with it at least.you expect a franchise that hasn't been culturally relevant since ffx to compare to a behemot like digimon?
Isn't it funny how every FFR thread has someone making sure 7R's reputation is safe in them
>>750384879>hasn't been culturally relevant since ffxWell that's just not true.
>>750381497Why is Sephiroth a vision but not the remaining 15 antagonists?
>>750384910Yeah those are your posts.
>>750384807of course, anything is fair against ff7r
>>750384831Makes sense. So people are comparing Steamcharts of late(year+ at least) playercounts vs game that dropped day 1.
>>750381497>42k HOLY SHIT KEKEVEN KOREAN SLOP LIKE TFD GOT 250k
>>750383413cause it's a highly mid FF gamethis is an incredible achievement for modern Squenix
>>7503849107r could have been way bigger as one game and pc day one 15 years ago
>>750384935>TFDF2P GAAS online game absolutely not the same audience or metric
>>750381497The fact that 42k is the highest for any FF ever really shows how out of touch SE is these days. That used to be one of the biggest video game franchises in the world. Now barely anybody gives a fuck about it.
>>750384549Ba7ry is such a fucking loser holy shit
>>750384973You say this every day
>>750382946Yeah...
>>750384973FF was never a MASSIVE seller. Even oot sold 14 millions at most, less than some indies. Times changed, you have>Gacha>Steam family share>People dropping consoles for pc Literally a lot of FF sales came from people buying the game again after changing platforms
>>750384920it literally is, imagine doing barely better than games released almost 30 years ago for a fraction of the budget
>>750382946There's no denying that.
>>750385068>FF was never a MASSIVE seller.So what's with the guy flexing remake's sales in every FF thread
>>750383320Wait really?? He’s only there for the FF7 clout huh, indeed a fake fan lol
>>750385137That's just BA7RY, ignore him
>>750385137A shitposter to screencap. Just look at how you barely saw muh sales with previous FF games. You would think the FFXV selling millions would be spammed way more
>>750385101>>750381497More data.
>>750385151>>750384130I was wondering why the pricetagschizo stopped, interesting
>>750385137Falseflagger.
>>750385218Bro, you are now choosing to seek out things to mindrape yourself with. You clearly enjoy being a schizo. And no, that guy is still not me. I already told you which posts are mine.
>>750382946Maybe Square shouldn't have spent 20+ years destroying the franchise.
>>750384226Don't worry, every single board has those now
>>750385068>FF was never a MASSIVE seller.Yes it was anon. From FF7 onward almost every game was a relatively huge success. The problem is the height of FF popularity came before gaming hit mainstream so you've got people comparing it to modern numbers which doesn't work. A major release from a big developer now reaching a few million can be considered a colossal failure whereas getting a few million sales back in the 90s meant you had one of the most successful games in the entire industry.
>>750385024I'm not whatever bogeyman you think I am you schizo.
>>750384423It's pretty good. These games are usually long-term movers now esp. with the image shat on for so long many people seem to wait and see if the word of mouth is good or not. FF7R picked up around the Switch port since it retained a mostly positive image long enough to finally take the risk on. Part of the reason Square barely ever puts most recent stuff on sale
>>750384549All me btw
>repurposed gachasloppa>dumb cameoshit constantly, like the bland new heroes aren't worth shit on their own>shitty orchestra music trying way too hard without any good tunes>game assumes the player is braindead and anyone wanting to play this slop is braindead anyway>turbo cringe dialog and trash story (again, it was originally just gachaslop)>fuck the english voice acting, too>terrible HD 2D, blurry and overuse of all kinds of stupid effectswhat a fucking mess
>>750384973It's the highest for a single player FF. But also, Final Fantasy has always had staggered releases, where it doesn't get a day 1 Steam launch. All the diehards purchased on Sony day 1, and then a year or a year and a half later or whenever, it launches on Steam and since it has already been out for over a year, people clamor to it less and more trickle in over time. They might even just be pirating it.
It's an adaptation of a mobile gacha so it unironically ends on a cliffhanger and you are supposed to go play/watch the original mobile gacha to understand how it ends
>>750385838>where it doesn't get a day 1 Steam launch.Yes which is a big part of why SE is so out of touch.
>>750385816>>turbo cringe dialog and trash story (again, it was originally just gachaslop)>>fuck the english voice acting, tooon the smae level as persona games and those games are loved
>>750381497its a Nortubel rip off in final fantasy name
>>750385858no it doesn't, season 1 was complete on its own. season 2 was retroactively shoved in and garbage
>>750384549So this is the guy one poster was trying really hard to defend in the last thread? I'm starting to wonder why...
>>750384973Gaming lost a certain part of their market. A big part of that fanbase were on Playstation, FFXIII fumbled then they fumbled Versus and PS3 barely had enough games to get by, then PS4 had even less and most of those people didn't make the jump to PS5. What's left would be people who switched to Nintendo or went from 3DS to Switch. Only a small portion moved to PC so what you have is a huge number of lapsed fans, similar to something like wrestling. FF7R was by far the biggest thing at TGS and yet where are those people when it comes to sales numbers? They aren't playing shit. The brand is still huge, they just aren't playing the games.
>>750385208Third part will do even more numbers, they are building up steam, so time for Square Enix to fumble it again.
>>750385924They got paid by Sony to do that. Then they realized it was a long-term negative and aren't doing that anymore.
>>750381497Haven´t you seen the trailers and reviews? You literally summon, pardon me, resonate, with characters from all other FF across dimensions. That alone makes it trash. Suits probably thought that gimmick was going to earn them points because they are a creative bankrupt bunch that can´t do nothing but exploit pass glories to capitalize on nostaliga fags inability to let go of that one game from 97 and move on.
>>750386327>Then they realized it was a long-term negative and aren't doing that anymore.I don't think that's what happened. More companies than just Square Enix decided to stop doing Sony exclusivity, and Sony has been flopping a bunch of games lately. And Bungie cost them a fortune and is a failure. I think what actually happened is that Sony was no longer able to provide exclusivity deals, or that the deals it was able to provide were no longer lucrative enough to justify.
>>750386384I wouldn't be surprised if Sony was issuing exclusivity deals but I doubt that's the reason for why most Japanese devs did it. They probably saw it as a win-win scenario.>"You mean we'll get paid to not immediately release our game on that filthy gaijin PC store where everyone is a pirate? There's no downside!"Unfortunately Japanese devs are always years behind the curve and Japanese executives tend to be so adamantly against change that now their entire gaming industry is crippled without pachinko and gacha because they saw the PC market as undesirable for so long.
>>750386616I guess we'll never truly know, but I still think what I said is more likely closer to the truth of why multiple companies nearly simultaneously decided to stop doing Sony exclusivity or to move away from them entirely (Kojima)
>>750385941>purse owner weeb shityuck
>>750381497girly-men with their girly voices hoisting swords and armor with their girly arms. typical jrpg slop
>>750386616Square has released PC ports since the 90's. Being a system mover and exclusive always meant the company behind said system gives you a shitload of perks including massive marketing. Even without exclusivity Sony still marketed Rebirth like crazy in Japan
>>750387324>Square has released PC ports since the 90's.Square has always done ports. The problem is most of them are shit and lazy and downgrades compared to the originals. SE didn't care about PC back then, they cared about whatever money they thought they could make with a quick, low effort port.
>>750386713I dunno, Square stopped while Death Stranding 2 and other timed games were still in the works and already had Rebirth planned on all plats, same as PS3 whwn they moved away from exclusivity because they saw a shift in the landscape. Versus was PS exclusive at first maybe because they knew the engine would be a pain in the ass on one console alone.
>>750387445I'm sure you have your reasonings, but I also have mine.
>>750383320He's a fake Phantasy Star fan as well
how's the difficulty?
>>750387637Huh? What? How?
>>750384457>It's huge for a JRPGStep aside nips you want a JRPG to sell well? Give the genre over to the White man. >143k peak concurrent playersJaps and SEAmonkeys wish their Asian made JRPGs could peak this high.
>>750387887E33 was also an industry plant, pretending to be "indie" while staff was basically 95% industry vets with the exception of the composer which has 0 bearing on the game itself.Not that resonance is particularly great or that E33 was bad, just that it's not like E33 would have done nearly as well without the millions of dollars in funding.
>>750388019>with the exception of the composer which has 0 bearing on the game itself.Music is a huge part of a game, anon. You're doing a serious disservice to that guy. The music was probably the best part of the game.
>>750388054I'm not, and again I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying he's the only person on that team who WASN'T an industry vet, and they paraded him and him alone around as proof that they were some sort of indie darling underdog startup, they were ubislop exempts with something like $25m seed money. They were like the FURTHEST thing from indie you could be.
>>750388019You do write some daft shit don't you.
>>750388019Exp33 forever making the SEAmonkeys seethe. HAHAHAHAHA
>>750388195>I'm notYou are indeed doing a huge disservice to the music guy. Otherwise I completely agree with you. A masonic industry plant game that had every award ever purchased behind the scenes for an entire year, becoming officially more shilled than The Last of Us 2, which was the game that had previously won the most awards. Music is still a very important part of a game, it doesn't have "0 bearing on the game", and the music was probably the best part of the extremely overrated 7/10 game.
>>750388305We'll just have to agree to disagree, music is just noise, I've never given a single solitary shit about music in any game I've ever played and it's one of the first things I usually turn off.
>>750381497It's like a sequel to the SNES era FF games. Which is incredible.
>>750388419>first thing he does is mute the music>says "music has zero bearing on a game"Bro... bro....... bro......bro...
>>750388419>Music is just noise it doesn't matter in gaming which is why I turn it off, >I turn off music in the game because I know it won't be good also this is my opinion on the music in the game.You're such a little dumb shit.
>>750388305>the music guyThe thing is even "the music guy" has been massively elevated beyond what he actually did. I'm not going to say he isn't talented but if you've actually listened to what he was making before and after it's a world of a difference. They took someone who was just sort of good and gave him as much access as he needed to whatever hardware/software/manpower/consultation he needed. A lot of the music in E33 was effectively co-composed by industry vets.
>>750388692I don't doubt that. Industry plant and all. Still though, if anyone who worked on that game is to get any credit for anything, it should be the guy who did the music.
It's nuts that such a cheap little 2D game has more players than the FF7 Remakes did. Someone at Square is going to get fired.
>>750388908You can't make people play the same game for 10 years
>>750388419Holy shit you must be a brown retardMusic is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in a game you fucking idiot!You are the reason slop exists!
>>750389527>same gameExact opposite problem actually. It would have been far more successful if it was a remaster instead of a remake.
>>750384549>check archive>eh...it's not too ba->see it's 8 fucking pages at the bottomoh...
>>750387887Parryslop
>>750388908Imagine if instead of spending $360m on a trilogy of Final Fantasy VII Remakes that will continue on forever as long as people keep buying it, they instead made one $30m game like this and it released 6 years ago and no one needed to still be waiting for the rest of the parts of the story. It would cost less than 1/10th of the the VII Remake cost SE, and it probably would sell at least the same amount of copies as Remake has, maybe more.
>>750381497hopefully this show square that turn based final fantasy games are the best ones.
>>750387576I'm not saying anything about absolutes, just brainstorming all the possibilities
>>750387707Perfect on Hard Mode.
>>750389963Imagine if... they gave us both a FF7 Remake and turn based style games...
>>750390492I mean... they did.
>>750390163>U fink dis show da Square dat turn bazed is dat cowwect gaem!Who the fuck cares SEAMONKEY? SE have been creatively bankrupt for 15+ years, they've already been replaced in the JRPG space.
>>750390693Because one game not made by them sold as much as Octopath Traveller? How come we never hear about the actual brand or characters or world, or anything? Most people don't even know their names.
>>750383413Because mobile games tend to have high production value but gutted gameplay replaced with gambling addiction. This replaced the gambling addiction with actually solid turn based jrpg mechanics.
>>750386158>Third part will do even more numberslol that's not how it works
>>750381497Ff7 remake fags in shambles.
>>750383413Final Fantasy hasn't had a good game in over a decade. Also people like nostalgiabait and this former gacha is full of it.
>>750391409>Second does more than first>Install base has grown and most of the current players who would play the game already have and are caught up or the paypiglet type that just buys games in a series to collect>That's not how it worksIf it doesn't sell more they massively fucked up somehow, and btw I am talking about peak players aka first week, not overall
>>750390882The fuck are you talking about? Do you even know English?
>>750384620This surprises me
>>750383413It's the only game released under the Final Fantasy name that actually plays like a real Final Fantasy since 2001.
FF7 Revelation probably won't even be SE's best selling game next year.
>>750392142The claim:>Square has had the market taken from them because E33 sold x copiesThe rebuttal:>Square has recent games that sold that much and Final Fantasy is still a strong brand in fandom talked about much more than that game
>>750393585it has denuvo too so probably not
>>750381497Its its own thing but the gimmick in this one is that the crystal of light has shards to find that let you find other games warriors of light you equip like a stand. So the first is the FF1 warrior of light who is a sentinel type that you are intended to equip to the sentinel type party member to expand his abilities. But by levelling others you dont have equipped you have 100 ability points to equip their abilities and passives.But its its own game about a cover up over a war 700 years ago thats bretty gud.
>>750393908E33 sold 8 million copies at last count.First time game from a first time studio in a genre that is traditionally Japanese in nature.Square with FF16 sold 3.5million copies at last report. Square Enix a company that has almost 40 years of name brand recognition sold less than half what a competitor made while Exp33 cost less to make than FF16 and made far more money.Square Enix is done which is why it is currently being bought out by a third party investment group 3D investment Partners who are very close to owning a controlling stake in SE. It's done, it's over Square Enix have had their goose cooked.
>>750383413This game is all I've wanted from FF for the past 25 fucking years
>>750388419kill yourself
>>750394807All anime haters like shartposters calling everything in this board "tranime" bought E33.
>>750383360FF7. Max is a casual hypebeast
>>750394807And FFXV was over 10m at last count years ago. Being old does not equal: It should sell lots everytime.>It's the first game by a company put together from vets!Okay? So? Bayonetta sold over 5m on a way smaller budget and 'new company', other companies have done so as well. What about Meccha Chameleon? Should Goemon be selling more because it is decades older? Rhetoric argument.As for shareholder talks, I don't really care, but a super successful Japanese kid's series was just sold to new owner's because it's profitable. Investors aren't exactly looking for 'companies that are done'
>>750391683Yeah, that's exactly what happened with FF13 right anon? Normies buy things based on hype and since this was a "new" game they were willing to purchase to see what it was all about. Same thing with FF7R, it works until the game is actually out, the smoke and mirrors disappear and people realize how mediocre the experience was. Less people buy the sequel, and so on.The exception are games that people keep talking about for years nonstop, such as The Witcher, Dark Souls, Elder Scrolls, etc. Otherwise the install base does not grow and realistically speaking it keeps shrinking. Just compare Octopath 1 sales with 2.
>>750395553Now what did FF16 sell?
>>750383360>>750395489If it isn't Capcom, a fighting game, or something featuring FF7 characters, Max is not going to hype it up.Meaning he's going to go into overdrive when the first real footage of Tifa in SF6 drops.
>>750381497>is it its own story like every other FFlolmao fuck no. it's a call back to older games people had fond memories of because they don't make that shit anymore
>>750381497Turn BASED game full of soul obliterates soulless demake garbage at 1/100 the costMANY such cases
>>750385208Redditbirth btfo
>>750395553>Bayonetta sold 5m on a way smaller budgetExp33 sold 8million copies on a budget of $9million.
>>750395691Don't know final numbers but let's go with the 3.5m. Haven't played it but I heard many people didn't like it so much. How does that negate anything I said? FFXII sales dipped then FFXIII went up even though people are more favorable to 12 by a landslide, and the series wasn't dead yet as XV did way more. Can't draw long-term conclusions on isolated results.
>>750396085>Self-professed FF fanboy>Hasn't played FF16Tells me everything I need to know right there.
FF16 was just too easy. There wasn't a single actually difficult fight in that entire game
>>750396085>even though people are more favorable to 12 by a landslideXIII is very well received by nips>>750396359It would have behooved them to have the hardest difficulty unlocked from the start.
>>750396004They say they had 33 staff members33 staff for 6 years is an average of 45k salary. Total actual credits have over 400 people in them.Please tell me how they paid all these people then paid for development costs of a game with 9 million. The numbers are misleading.
>>750396232>Rhetoric gotcha to flee from the argumentNow show me where I self-professed being an FF fanboy
>>750396484They didn't have 33 staff for 6 years, they had a handful of staff for 6 years and most of them worked on the game part time, it wasn't until the final couple of years when they gained a publisher they expanded to 30+ staff. Most of the staff also were not full timers but part time. The numbers to you are misleading because you made a calculation based on a lack of information.
>>750395819Every FF since 2 has 'callbacks' to previous games.
>>750396484https://www.gamespot.com/articles/clair-obscur-expedition-33-budget-was-under-10-million-report/1100-6536874/NewYorkTimes who credit Sandfall (Exp33's publisher) as the source.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/241065/clair-obscur-expedition-33/credits/windows/Indie game by the way
>>750396636>>750396816He's gone real quiet since this dropped.
>>750396636I don't have the time to research every little thing about the game and if I use AI to create a summary it will turn into some gotcha about that, etc. so we're just going big picture for the sake of discussion.400 total staff for 1 year would be 22k each for 9 million. Let's just do that.Where did the money for the actual development costs, equipment, production, distribution, etc. come in? We're going to leave out marketing as that is a different thing (but still needs money from somewhere)
>>750395819why is he so fucking big
>>750397190>I don't have time to do research>Which is why I'm going to ignore even the article that lists out the exact number here>>750396816You are coping, coping and seething.
>>750381786literally everybody plays resonance on either switch or switch 2
>>750391531>Final Fantasy hasn't had a good game in over a decadeshadowbringers was 2019 and endwalker was 2021, those are the best FFs since 6
>>750397006>look inside>90% of the names are all the employees of that one polish QA company they contracted to test the game before release and the companies they contracted to localize the game in various languagesnice bait retard
>>750398030Endwalker was garbage though.
>>750398030>mmorpg>marvel tier writingyou'll never be a woman
>>750397769So answer the question. How much did they pay these people and how did they afford all other costs afterwards? With what money did they do production, distribution and marketing?>>750398119How much do you think they paid just for voice acting, recording, mixing and translations?
>enter ff resonance thread>esl schizo sperging out about e33 and sales numbers and budgets
>>750381418>Says this 2 hours later>Still projectingFucking loser. lol
>>750398717nta but I think Kepler Interactive the publisher fronted a lot of the cost for the big name voice actors, mocap, etc. that was outside their budget as they wanted to invest in the project since they thought it had potential. at least that's what I've read in the past.I assume Kepler also fronted the cost for some other aspects of the game.I don't think Sandfall had the budget to pull off this scale of a production without their help from the sound of it
indians literally cannot help themselves can they? I don't understand why they're so obsessed with Expedition 33
>>750395819>All these past reps>No Tactics repsINTO THE TRASH. Game needs a Ramza Vision, what the fuck
>>750399132Sales have never ever mattered to FFags. Nope. Never. Ever.You should buy Resonance if you want a Season 2 though, it's success hinges on continuing the full story, so don't ever tell people to pirate it.
>>750381497That isn't exactly a number to be proud of.
>>750399629what are you talking about and what does any of it have to do with what I posted?
>>750385979m..m...my narrative
>>750381497i picked it up and am gonna play blind tonight because i see everyone raving about it. I liked most of the titles before 12 . i Hope its a return to form . Turn based goodness with impactful decisions > action combat .. i will report back in a few days how i feel.
>>750381497what the shit?do people actually want to play a 2D Final Fantasy game that's not a gacha?
>>750400026just play the demo saar
>>750400146nigga even SE boasted about the success of the pixel remasters
>>750381497dogshit mess with retarded graphics a high price tag, bad voice acting, and more SE nostalgia baiting. its not even worth rooting your bios to hackers to run the hv crack
>>750396085FF16 completely abandoned all gameplay depth to the point where playing it feels insulting it's right up there with the memes about that Wolverine game. It alao tries so hard to be mature just by having characters swear constantly while the actual story feels like it was written by a fifth grader instead of just executing standard tropes well.
>>750400182Its more fun to spend my money blindly then get angry about my purchase if i feel let down.
>>750400146Believe it or not, Pixel art is still incredibly popular in today's era . Its like when the Camera was invented , people stopped caring about realism in paintings and the Abstract and Impressionist movements popped off. Its like that. We have all the modern graphics games that do not have much artistic skill behind it and people can't really see where an artists influence begins and ends because the Engine is doing most of the heavy lifting. Some don't care and just want the modern graphics. Some really care and appreciate old styles and artistry . I think this is going to become more and more true with this new Age of AI slop games... There is going to be so much modern slop that games created with artists that have actual talent will be the gems amongst the shit.
>>750401249pixel art is great when it has soul and isnt just an obvious replica of a bygone era. take a game like cross code for example. thats a good pixel art game.
the most insulting part of resonance before the gacha shit is right at the very beginning where you just summon bahamut and do a bunch of 99999s. fucknig retarded gay game
>>750401676I'm a late Zoomer, so I didn't have to suffer through primitive pixel garbage.. I grew up with actual texture chunky low-poly models and hand painted prerendered backgrounds that actually had real soul, instead of this endless uninspired flood of lazy indie pixel art and 2D-HD cash grabs everyone is choking on right now. In fact, people are already sick of it, even if they're too dense to admit it. Once gen alpha grows up and develops a shred of actual taste, they're going to starve for something that isn't another generic 16-bit asset flip in unreal engine and that's when low-poly and prerendered aesthetics are going to bulldoze back into the mainstream.
>>750402331I don't know if there's anything lazier than indie pixel art. They don't even try to make it look good 90% of the time. At least lots of horror indie games are going for the ps1 aesthetic
>>750397447Wouldn't be a classic FF game without boss human sprites being giants compared to the player
>>750397447>>750402582one of my favorite tropes
>>750402582they weren't this jarring at all
>>750402742maybe it's just sephiroth but he really looks off
>People are questioning the giant boss tropeI see the game is getting attention from Normal Humans. How frightening.
>>750402945He's weirdly lanky I think it's just because he's standing still instead of taking any sort of pose
>>750402989i literally showed screen from previous ff, including the game from which resonance comes from and it didn't look this jarring >>750403031yeah i think his pose doesn't suit the scale but i still think he should be smaller, at least not feeling like he is about to overlap the UI
>>750402945SE is obsessed with giving Sephiroth an unnecessary amount of attention.
Wasn't there some kind of attack or something that scales the more buffs you have applied? Anyone know what it was again? I cant find it.
>same gay retards as always still seething>but even more angry now that the game is a hitLOL
>>750402945he just has a really shitty and boring pose. He looks like he really doesn't wanna be here. And how he's shaded feels really inconsistent with other boss sprites.his vision sprite looks a lot better despite being one third the size. I am also wondering if he's just an image of his 3D render ran through whatever pixelation filter they used for the opening cutscene.
>>750384546Only played the digimon game on my vita and it was pretty unremarkable, is this one much better?
>>750382365So that's what's going on
>>750403253>a hitWhere's the one million sales announcement?
>>750399132Ba7ry will never let us have a good FF thread ever again
>>750404017game has been out a few days; don't worry you'll have LOTS of time to cope. Best to think now about how you'll move goalposts
>>750396232why would any self respecting person play ff16 yoshi p hallway simulator?
>>750404406Because they want someone to tell them a story
I will buy the game but I still need to hear /v/'s /v/erdict.
>>750404461but yoshi p doesnt tell stories.his team makes huge set pieces you dont interact with and walk three hallways down to never be seen again.yoshi p doesnt tell stories, he sells phantasias.
>>750404574Absolutely retarded take.
>>750404574absolutely real take of someone who has played since the start.you are just coping, you can find a hundred set pieces that are just burnt wasted potential that are only a couple hallways everywhere in 14. everything is hollow and daily-logins coded. even the story beats are contrived and absolutely predictable. its just autism that fuels peoples comfort for how things are obviously patterned.
>>750381497fuck it imma play the demo
>>750404393>game has been out a few daysYeah and normally said hits already have reach this slim milestone. Keep crying like a bitch lmao
>>750397874im playing it on my PC :C I havent touched my switch 1 in over a year and I have no interest in a switch 2, the only game id wanna play is that weird ass donkey kong game with the barefooted loli on his back for some fucking reason
>>750381497I hate how much every moment in this game is just overloaded with shounen "hype/peak" moments at nearly every turn. It's worse during battles when all the characters act like every fight is THE last stand to end all fights. Idk if it's the dub or what, but it drives me nuts. I'm sure the Jap VA is no different albeit tolerable since their shouting doesn't sound raspy or like they're breaking their vocal cords.Makes me wish it had Yap Slider like Wild Arms 4 where I can control how frequent characters could mouth off during the game. The overdramatic writing doesn't help either. Everyone speaks like a damn philosophical quote machine spouting off metaphorical bullshit like "We have to stop it...before it starts!" or speaking like some theatrical knight in a play which doesn't work for this game at all. I don't get the sense these are real people rather than walking trope mouth pieces.It works for something like FF4 because that game felt like a stage play with how dramatic the story is with all the tragedy and betrayal. This game just feels like teenagers larping as anime characters. "Classic FF" my ASS.
>>750381497No joke, no contrarian /v/ bullshitIm getting back into jrpgs after about a 10 year absence and I wanna get back into a genuine good one so, Final Fantasy Resonance, Expedition 33, or Trails in the 1st Sky, those look to be the best ones recently
>>750405109systems wise: Metaphor Re:Fantazio > FF Resonance > E33 story wise: E33 > Metaphor > FF Resonancelegacy wise: FF Resonance > Metaphor > E33
>>750395819it bothered me way too much so i reduced him to a reasonable scale
>people saying Fina bust not as big>suddenly, Lid appearsuhmm...Lid bros, are we winning?
>>750383320that whitey is the definition of astroturfed shill, I don't know why people follow this cocksucker
>>750405312Well they wanted the typical no personality healer girl and the edgy girl but japs are so fuckin afraid to actually BE edgy, this is what we got, its better than anything from persona at least
>>750405308No anon you fucking retard that's SEPHIROTH the greatest video game villain EVER he needs to be BIG to catch your attention he's the most IMPORTANT FF character.
>>750405308Sephiroth is a big guy
>>750405525i swear everytime i see Butz he gets dressed more oddly
>>750405109just do e33, it has a good story, music, etc.. it's turn based but has parrying/dodges you do along with some small QTEs for extra damage. if that bothers you there's other options.Trails 1st remake is good but it's really slow and has a lot of fluff dialogue, so just be aware if you go into it. 2nd is better but takes a while to get going
>>750404923this is the absolute peak of japanese writing.they unfortunately arent able to do things with measure or build up. but when you live in a culture where a single mistake requires you to hang yourself in a forest, everything you do is the most epic last fight you ever participate in.
>>750404923>The overdramatic writing doesn't help either. Everyone speaks like a damn philosophical quote machinei wish a final fantasy game dared to use the word nigger, like for example "so you come back to me like a dogged nigger..."this would be so poetic and philosophically profound because it speak to the dogged slaveish nature of the nigger. Like John Lenon "the woman is the nigger of the world" you get what I mean? Hopefully you do.
>>750404923>It works for something like FF4 because that game felt like a stage play with how dramatic the story is with all the tragedy and betrayal.yes anon, old good new bad
>>750406293>old good new badcorrect
is magic or phyiscal better
>>750406230i swear to god, were you the one who wrote the nigger book where it was used over 12,000 times?>>750406452people dont understand that old good new bad doesnt mean all old is good, its just a coincidence that old IS good.your retardmaxed chad approach through is highly appreciated and the epitome of sophistication.
>>750405269>Resonance>LegacyThis game's conversation is almost dead already. Zero staying power, zero legacy, zero cultural relevancy
I haven't played a FF since FFTAPeople seem to really love this so I think I'll try it
>>750406916>BandoFunny how that guy survived getting Gojo'd twice
>>750399550A little late as I was playing something, but thanks for the info
>>750406652Phys for blitzes if you are strong enough or just want to conserve HP. Magic to stagger or buff or debuff. You will ideally have at least one or two phys guys to save MP on mobs but will need good magic shit for the bosses or harder enemies.
>>750406916Resonance isn't good though and you're just insecure because you played FFBE when you were in elementary school..
>>750407589idk how magic is ever better to stagger all the spells have loer stagger than physical
>>750407873Yes anon, i know, we're on /v/ everything after 1998 sucks, despite most posters being under 30, i know i know....
>>750407912hitting weakness = more stagger
>want to get some vision ranks, also to catch up jake>but also don't wanna overlevel>game's tempting me by showing me where a cactuar spawns that drops like 400 MRPbwos... i don't know if i am strong enough not to completely break the game... i should at least wait until i get the 7th party member, or i just have to redo the grind for her again. and pray if dark fina comes back she just shares vision ranks with fina.
>>750407873ive never played resonance, or FFBE whatever it was.i have actually discerning and great tastes. i think youre cucking out in paranoia kid.
>>750381497Don't care might pirate later
>>750405109E33 is easily the most well rounded and high quality of the bunch and it's not even close. Trails in the sky is solidly average or maybe slightly above average with good worldbuilding, decent characters, OK story. Worth a play if you're only gonna play it and 2nd without being roped into the entire franchise. Resonance is the weakest of all of those games IMO but still solid.
>FF fags cried and shitposted about Persona gameplay for years>now they are shilling a game with almost the same "hit weakness/all-out-attack" mechanicPathetic and funny at the same time.
>>750406230I wish weebs had standards and wouldn't throw hissy fits anytime people correctly point out they're shitlennial troons attracted to media written for teenagers, to then think every Western fantasy is Game of Thrones without having read LotR or played DnD.
>>750404923Oh man you think that bad wait until you see the Final Boss.It's literally a manifestation of the darkness within people's hearts. Then the party has to use the power of friendship in order to beat it. What's even funnier is the MC and the big bad flamewar over differing opinions. Not even joking about that last part.
>>750408057>i have actually discerning and great tastes.Ok, then list your top 10 JRPGs.
>>750408135haha this retard doesn't know how break worksP.S. you don't need to hit weaknessP.P.S. press turn is better, Persona casual
>>750407914I'll take that as a concession from a bruised tranime lover's ego.
>>750408517Rhapsody: A Musical AdventureLunar: Dragon SongQuest 64Legend of Dragoon Beyond the BeyondAncient RomanRecord of Agerest WarAll Compile Heart gamesArc The Lad: End of DarknessBreath of Fire 2 with its original English localizationShining Resonance Refrain
>>750408538>muh SMT is better>seething as usualLMAOFFcultists can't hide their seethe.
>>750408806>retard links FF7>nobody mentioned itwhat a fucking retard lmao
>>750406230>Sees criticism>Thinks about niggers>BlizzcuckIronic when your game's made with niggers in mind for the purpose of niggerfication. KEK
>>750408760hi projared!
>>750408806to be fair sony has like 12 youtube channels for different channels being a, you know, much better and much more successful company than uh....atlus but youre very committed to this opinion, please dont let me stop you
>>750408978different languages* sorry i am a retard but point still stands, maybe count all the view of all the language channels together? give yourself a little handicap too, its on me ;D
Is the overworld fun to explore and the side content fun on this? Might grab it on switch 2
>>750381617/thread
>>750408806Im only going to play the one on the left.
>>750409053If you want a fun overworld to explore play Crystal Project. If you want Final Fantasy play Crystal Project with the FF overhaul mod. There isn't a single Final Fantasy game that actually has a fun overworld.
>>750408760>A bunch of niche or mediocre/forgettable weeb shit>Kusoge >A literal unfinished N64 gameTell me you post in 3x3 threads without telling me you post in 3x3 threads.
>>750382365I was wondering why the threads being positive about this game suddenly turned schizophrenic
>>750409163boy, you are really fucking stupid, aren't you?
>>750381497My understanding is that they just repeatedly throw final fantasy characters from other games in your face until you hypothetically says basedsquee out and piss your FF7-cloud-themed adult diaper
>>750409154And if you want a fun FF5 but don't care about an overworld, then play Time Break Chronicles.
>>750388419Music carried Undertale, an otherwise 8/10 at best gameMusic also carries visual novels (which literally have no gameplay most of the time), every highly rated VN has the "good music" tag on nip review sitesetc
>>750409241Thanks for the concession.
>>750409381you can't even use that tired old retarded buzzphrase correctly lmao
>>750409139Don't need to tell us you enjoy eat shit, shite eater.
>>750381497>picAnother victory for Turn-BASED combat.
>>750398030MMOs are dogshit.
>>750409669>swathoid ape thinks chimping out and spamming 'nigger nigger nigger' is the apex of human communication.This is because you have sub 80 IQ, of course. We cannot communicate as equals because you are not my equal.
all these bucks broken over a low budget HD2D game doing well lol It's like a shazamtroon holocaust
>>750409327Because it's the easiest publicly available data to get and showcase. If you have better data then post it.
>>750381497question:is raegan still rain's father?is raegan still the og veritas of the dark?is the bad veritas of the dark still a vision created by citra?is the final boss sol?does the game ends when they all get wormhole'd into paladia?is veritas of frost still MIA in resonance?
>>750383413Isn't Resonance a reimagining rather than a port of Brave Exvius?
I'm enjoying the game so far. I wish there were a proper job system a la 5 instead of just the visions though. Would've elevated it to a really good game imo
>>750403731No, it was some sort of weird psyops boosted by pokemon company being even bigger niggers than usual at the time.
>>750381497No seriously what's up with the font? It looks fine in some places, but it's really noticably generic in the dialogue boxes. Is it because of that one jp font company selling out to the west which fucked over a lot of companies that used them?
>>750381617
>>750410165I don't play any of your pedophile software, but I know that laughable lawsuit against it lost.
>>750409997this IS a job system, though. Passives and certain moves are free to keep and equip, stats are permanent, and then you need to actually equip the job to get certain other moves and statsThere are WAY more builds to do here than 5 or FFT
>>750409942Yes, yes, yes, never was (Chaotic Darkness is), no they stay on Lapis, never mentioned to my knowledge.
>>750388019>e33 the industry plant that proved you could make a good game with a small group of white men for cheap and turn a profit by selling it to consumers for half the price of modern triple a games as a resultthis shitposting angle has always been the most hilarious cope
Outsoild be Veilguard. Turnboomers BTFO. Resonance will outsell this 5 times over
>>750406984Legacy as it belongs to the Final Fantasy serieshttps://youtu.be/Pw4LPSEOMoA?si=5eTvhxYhx-Yi06ZQ&t=2013https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/749001948/#749012117
>>750384549Damn shame mods just let mentality ill posters just stay around
>>750410226It's a pseudo-job system. I feel like a proper job system layered on top of it would do it well. This game absolutely does not have more build variety than 5 or T you're insane
>>750405475Isn't he a supreme gentleman
Man its impossible to have proper discussion on 4cuck anymore. Ironically 8 chan is more civilized
>>750409634>>750409825This retard still trying to hide behind genshin?
>>750409536you are gonna play flopsona, dont lecture people on taste
>>750384549He means Barry he has a legacy on /v/
>>750388019>staff was basically 95% industry vetsDishonest fag, those ''industry vets'' were Disgruntled ex-Ubishit employees who left to form their own company,>exception of the composer which has 0 bearing on the game itselfThe music in E33 slaps harder than any soundtrack made by squeenix ix since ff13 and even that was 100 songs using the same motif.>E33 would have done nearly as well without the millions of dollars in fundingThe funder set one condition: no money until after the game made more than whatever she would pay. The studio didn't get shit until after the game released and sold millions.Also, the investor was old French aristocracy and not Jews so based.>>750410723>twitter OP,schizoposters, Eck-pedos and Subcontinental E33-haters.>that one guy who raises the specter of some guy named eric,>barry, larry, harry.etcThe most gayest, most retarded-assed most niggerest jungle rimbu ooga-booga threads on /v/ are always without exception FF threads.Congratulations even by 4chan standards you guys are faggots.
>>750410226Be real. Its not a job class system thats what this game is missing. I like that it has elements for the player tho that the player cannot remove from itself unless they change "persona" (final fantasy spirit)I like that because it makes you think about your team comp depending on the moveset the enemy has. Finally. FF needed an elemental system more complex to what it used to have. I been shilling this idea long ago. Thankfully it seems somebody at Squarenix finally learned from somewhere likely Persona or Pokemon.
>>750411396>8 chan is more civilizedmy attic is more civilized as well since there is nobody in there
>>750411652>barry, larry, harry.etcdont forget Jimbo
>>750411396Every post on this website now boils down to>not uh, your opinion is wrong!Doesn't matter the topic. I could say the sky is blue and some retarded nigger will try to rage bait me and say it's actually red. There are no serious people here anymore.
>>750409328Garbage game
>>750410226It's sort of a job system (minus stats and equipment), but the big problem is most of the jobs are way too similar to make them feel unique. For most of them, you only want them for 1-2 passives and that is it. Other than that you're best off picking whatever has the best elemental match up for the boss you're about to fight.
>>750412084Exhibit A
>>750395819That's every JRPG ever you absolute jeet
>>750412275I haven't even played that game.
>>750411961enabling IDs would enable filtering the obvious trolls and samefaggers but i supposed it would require a one week maintenance
>750411708(buzzwords)>750411825>(buzzwords)I always have one rule: if your comment could have just as easily been written by an A.I. I do not give it even a (you) and you are below that, the shit you write isn't even words It's just barely sentient babble.
is barry here?
>>750411396I blame mods being lazy faggots and letting these freaks run wild
I just want Square Enix to die off already and maybe some developer that actually is competent can make JRPG's again. God have they become awful.
Based Barry still talking mad shit about FF16 all these years:https://twitterviewer.net/_bazztek/status/2114793071116509685Unlike yall at least he holds the line, he attacks it for not being an RPG. BASED.
>>750412659>some developer that actually is competent Like who?
>>750412015You havent even played it.
Talk about the game instead
>>750412670Damn I thought he unironically killed himself
>750412605>cannot stop thinking about effeminate men in dresses I figured you were gay. Here have a gender bent tifa you fruity loop faggo flamingo.
>>750412726Haven’t bought it yet but plan to
If something doesn't explicitly say "Battle Skill" does it not count as a Battle Skill for this? Because some skills say directly say Battle Skill but others don't.
>>750412738me too but he is still alive and kickin
>>750412702I don't know. But I'm in camp E33 though, that was a huge slap in the face. This was possible all along? SE should declare bankruptcy in shame just because it exists.
Man, fuck those dinos in the second arena league. I feel like that's the only hard battle in that group. The Princess Flans are basically a gimmick fight, the Ochu and Microchu fucking fold to Lid and the only trouble with the elementals at the end comes from potentially getting unlucky and eliminating more than one in a turn and getting nuked by the reinforcements. For anyone doing the dinos, they cast a spell when each one dies that can fuck you up.
>>750412769>stagger still exists>the most retarded final fantasy mechanicwhythose elements tho fire type and water type squall, sick, fucking finally they added those.
>750412841>retard noisesNothing much going on upstairs?There's a line of unsucked cocks in /lgbt/ waiting to be serviced by (you)get to work bitch.
>>750409929>If you have better data then post it.Please do, shill-kun, because conjecture isn't raw evidence that your side's "winning".
>>750412817Oh my mistake you’re retarded, should have just lead with that
>>750412726Jake is a faggot
>>750412767>>750412767I bought it for $10 off on some third party key seller, I don't think I would've paid full price for it, but I'm having a good time.>>750412769From what I understand they're basically physical attack skills, like the ones Squall himself and other physical attackers/breakers have. So no spellcasting, no spells, no buffs or debuffs etc.
>>750412769Yes only the specifically named ones count. Good use of Squall is with Rain with a full counter attack build with double action to protect everyone and guard in one game.
>>750413121What, does counter attacking count as a battle skill?
>>750413187No but it counts as a normal attack which is the other part of Squall's buffs.
Holy shit it took almost an hour but I destroyed Sephiroth at level 45Tanking is too strong
>>750412670I assure you he was the biggest anti P5 back then
>>750413074which 3rd party key seller? I need something like that. I dont wanna pay full. Too pricy and im unemployed rn.well i guess there is lots of websites like that to search for key sellers.I want to support this game in hope Sqeenix makes the next mainline FFs turn based and with a job class system if possible.
>>750413241Ah
Enjoy more remakes and reheated gachaslop.
How do I use Mimic? Every time I use it, it just performs a basic attack, even though my ally used a skill during the previous turn.
>750413143Why do you feel the need to have the last say?Are you a woman?
>>750413036Thanks for verifying you have none
>>750412705Garbage game with godawful balance even amongst other roguelikes
>>750413068both Jake and Rain were way hornier in the original gacha. Jake was harassing Lid much more frequently and Rain would hit on anything female including espers.
>>750413543Then you just have shit taste.
>>750413303try instant gaming
>>750413051Being retarded is still at least a step above FF fan in 2026. -That is 2 brain cells fighting for 3rd place.
>>750413121But only Terra gets Magic Counter
>>750413498>N-NO UBe patient, shill-kun. Daddy Enix will provide. In the meantime, conjecture isn't evidence that your side's "winning".16 sold 3mil in a week and it turned out to be a flop, so think about that.
>>750412670Why do you call him Barry?
>>750413768And? That's why you level Terra and get it. Get WoL full passive to slap his whole kit on Rain and equip Squall as your main vision and you're the team tank and shitting out DPS.
idk why this game reminds me of EBF4 so much, its like crazy. Anyways it seems to me that tidus and bartz are just way better breakers than the rest of the slew. Cloud is alright after you get genjis gloves. Why do half the visions just feel so gimmicky and shit?Is tidus game worth playing after this as a first final tranasy?>>750413768Cecil will give you an inherit for magic counter
>>750411129you're objectively wrong and thus have not played the game
>>750387887>E33 PC predominant game>>FF resonance likely has higher players than it because it's predominantly switch 1 & 2
>>750413587Says the guys suggesting a roguelike as a FF5 substitute when games like Scarmonde, Cassette Beasts, and Chained Echoes all exist with a satisfying overworld. You are welcome to your opinion but TBC is a bad early access roguelike that never pays off and I felt it morally responsible to warn anybody who looked at it because of your post.
Comfy
>>750413801>shill-kunI'm actively laughing my ass off that S-E's flagship IP of their flagship series is getting beaten in concurrent user stats by a repurposed gacha, explain how that's "shilling"
>>750414294Tendies don't buy or like JRPGs that aren't Pokemon, and you certainly won't see those numbers for this game from those systems.
>>750414368I'm not the one being unrealistic about its supposed success by defending it with player metrics.
>>750414541What will your cope be when it comes out top on famitsu, both NSW and NS2
Im trying bros, i really am, but the midgame grind of leveling up all these new visions for stats on 6 different people and fucking up your build and having different actions every few fights is killing my will to play this game. Why did they make it like this? I just want a consistent preset menu or less visions to grind
>>750413927Terras isnt inheritable
>>750414332>when games like Scarmonde, Cassette Beasts, and Chained Echoes all exist with a satisfying overworld.Oh ok so not only do you have bad taste but youre also illiterate too. Reread the conversation kiddo.
>>750413954What does tidus even have that makes him good? His shit sucks
>>750387887If Honkai Star Rail was repurposed into an actual game, /v/irgins would be singing a different tune with Resonance's PPC that I guarantee the FFaggots in here would be seething at that prospect. Hell, they were seething when chinks were bragging about entering the JRPG market at the time.
>>750414732What's unrealistic about pointing out a CCU number? You sound obsessed.
>>750409053>Is the overworld fun to explore and the side content fun on this? OG postYou responded to >>750409154>If you want a fun overworld to explore play Crystal Project. If you want Final Fantasy play Crystal Project with the FF overhaul mod. There isn't a single Final Fantasy game that actually has a fun overworld.With >>750409328Suggesting a shitty EA roguelike with bad balancing and barely any content WITHOUT an overworld (preempting that doesn't suddenly make it a valid suggestion)What exactly am I missing here? And why are you so uptight about someone calling that game dogshit? Are you the dev?
>>750414916Cecil has it as an inheritable.>>750414852Bro, just equip what you need to get through whatever area you're in until you get the airship. Once you do, locate the Onion Knight's Shrine and look to the west of it. There's a grasslands area that winds through some mountains, and, as long as you get into an encounter in the grass, it'll be a Cactuar. Throw it on Expert if you're not already and just use that to get visions to rank 5/6 in moments. Toss Aim on someone who isn't Rain, Lasswell is a great choice, and give him the first turn passive so he can pop Aim. If you've gotten Noctis to 9, equip Barrage on one of your other two as well as a ring that gives your normal and non elemental skills water affinity on that person. Use Rain's ability to toss someone into the Bonus Round on Lasswell after he's used Aim and Ice Splitter the fucker. Barrage plus weakness is there to ensure you'll stagger it.There you go, now you can level masteries without having to worry about builds outside of two abilities on two different characters.
This bossfight is absolutely fucking aids
>>750415201Hsrfags are the first ones shitting on hsr since last update
>>750414916Oh yeah you're right my bad. What >>750413954 said it's Cecil that has magic counter. I remember having it but forgot where I got it from.
>>750414812Headcanon =/= RealityYou're already at Stage 1: Denial
>>750415436>Reading comprehension
>>750413809all of /v/ calls _bazztek Barry
>>750415217>Projectionsee >>750414732 and >>750413036I'll take your concession now.
>>750415779>your sideThanks for verifying the obsession. I simply asked for better data and you're convinced I have a side rather than providing the evidence that would help prove yours.
>>750415776I gotta ask, is this brown dude in all these pictures actually Barry or some unfortunate fag who gets used to represent him?
>>750383413Uncs are more concerned with old good, new bad, that they want to make it look successful for the pixel turn based crowd, even though there are plenty of good turn based games.
>>750415352What if I just want to play the game instead of grinding everything to a halt to pass around a new vision like a cheap whore for 30 minutes? Its a game design flaw
>>750416053100% real
>>750415975You're doing the thing.
>>750416118>grindingGame is piss easy even on expert. There’s literally zero reason to grind. Doubly so before you get the +50% mrp passive in chapter 5.
>>750416187>cry about people posting data>"so post better data then">complains that someone has a "side" instead of posting said dataindeed
Is this breakslop like Octopath, and you don't deal any damage if they're not broken?
>>750416394No, there is a break bar but they made it so you can entirely ignore it if you want so break is just one of your options and not your only one.
>>750416394Not really. Once you get going you can largely ignore it on expert outside a couple gimmick enemies.
>>750415372It's actually really easy to trivialize because most of the difficulty comes from you triggering a mechanic you likely don't even know you're triggering.
>>750416053>I gotta ask, is this brown dude in all these pictures actually Barry or some unfortunate fag who gets used to represent him?Barry was confirmed to be an Aussie Abbo petrol chugger. The dude in the video is just a meme.There is a real image of Barry but for some reason if you post it here you get a 30-day autoban. Barry was trolled on /v/ into posting his dox around the time FF16 released, but I won't post it uncensored because I don't want to catch a perma over some retarded ugly ausfailian
moar.
>>750390693No they're not lolWho else makes traditional JRPGs?E33 isn't that, btw. It mixed in real time and soulslike elements.
>>750416053>is this brown dude in all these pictures actually Barryno>some unfortunate fagthose pictures have been around longer than you have been alive
>>750416187Rightoids are too quick to use this even when the "things" we're pretending not to understand are your psychotic delusions.
>>750409154>Crystal ProjectI played your game already Andrew and it was fun.With "fun overworld" I meant more an over overworld that has a lot of optional places for you to find and go, I think FF8 for example did a good job with this. So if this one has some stuff like in that game it should be nice.
Does this game have jiggling tits?
>>750417250Yes
Now that I've beaten Sephiroth and completely broke the game at only chapter 6 it feels pretty boring nowI might just stop using Rain and Lasswell
>>750416686I know the mechanic though>Water shield>Turtle shieldI cast thunder to break the water shield, and then accidentally cast thunder on the turtle shield due to ATB queuing a move up.
>>750417301What did you use to do it? I did it a chapter earlier by finding that small strip of land attached to the continent you can't fly to and discovering the mobs for the final Mechabo upgrade.Used Mechamog to put a lightning weakness on him and did the usual 8 attack spellblade barrage, with backup from Sakura's lightning ability. Nichol had all of the buffs and Lid had my heals. Put Pass the Torch on everyone but Lid since she had it via her Vision so I'd always be able to heal if need be. Took a while, but I was able to pull through.
>>750417720https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxltgmu-iY8Wilhelm + coverNo weaknesses just overclocked behemoth + spellblade
>>750417513Nah there's another layer to that boss. When I say trivialize I mean if you know how it works you engage in the most boring way possible but it's extremely safe and guarantees a win.
>>750418085oh, TELL MEI looped for like 10 minutes and then just turned it off out of tedium
>>750418017What was the build you did for Rain? I can pretty much guess at what the setup is for everyone else but that tank setup is something I have no idea about. I've got a save I kept from before the fight and I wanna see how it works out for me.
>>750383413Its just the story from a mobile game everything else is rebuilt from the ground up and its basically a love letter to classic FF.
>>750383413Because most people who aren't shitposting Indians don't give a shit about what technical classification a game has and simply think about if the game is fun.
I'll give this game a chance, but I have standards.The intro is a bad thing. In the Japanese version, it shoves English text in your face for the prologue even if your text language is set to Japanese.This is a MAJOR issue in Japan, and previous Final Fantasies had prologues with Japanese text, why are they switching to the English language now?Forcing japanese children to learn english to play final fantasy maybe isn't a good look for Square Enix
Is the genre 4 niggas in 2 rows, or 4 niggas in a square formation?
>>750419510pic related is the prologue from the very first Final Fantasy, perfectly in Japanese. Why change what works?
>>750382365Noted
>>750419713>>750419510Im glad I dont have this level of autism.
>>750419831I'm like 60% sure he's just being facetious and doesn't actually mean it.
>>750415372You cast a specific type of spell on him when he gathers water and then he can't do shit.
>>750419713>Nora Kisaragi>Norayou are a man dude fuck off trannywhat a wierdo dude, just stop larping and go anon
I am sad again
>>750422023simp
>>750381497Trash
>>750416818FF16 that bastion of traditional JRPGs. FF7remake series that bastion of traditional JRPGS. If these count then so does Expedition 33 which it does, it's a turn based game in the style of a JRPG with a parry mechanic whereas all Square Enix can make are big budget flops.
>>750422039Not sure how anyone could actually be a simp for a fictional character, unless you figured out a way to do so?
>>750414294E33 was on PS5 and XBOX. >FF resonance likely has higher players than it because it's predominantly switch 1 & 2You don't have any numbers, so you've got nothing.
>>750415372The boss fight before it is much worse, I killed this guy first try without even understanding what it was about because Thundaga rapes its HP
>>750413954FFX is like a very long hallway with some set pieces every few miles before it goes back to being a hallway. Not as open and adventurous as this game
>>750415058The skill that boosts break damage at the cost of 50% more MP.
>>750408760>Record or Agerest>Compile Heart>arc EoD>Lunar fucking DSThe fact that people unironically fell for this bait list makes me really sad.
>>750419831>>750419886>the japan slowly adopting english trend isn't a problemit's one of the biggest problems a japanese speaker AND learner will face. Dogen did a video on it once. Just look at this game's title screen in the Japanese versionEVERY Japanese Final Fantasy has ALWAYS included the japanese text for the game's title. ファイナルファンタジーBut this game is not doing that. To see the JAPANESE version of the game's title, you have to exit the game and look at the game's WEBSITE to even see how to pronounce the game's namehttps://www.jp.square-enix.com/FFRS/There's a severe English Language check this game is forcing on japanese children. The answer is just to accept that Japan is becoming bilingual and do NOTHING to stop it.
>>750424456It was an easy way to show these fucking theadshitting retards don't play video games, much less JRPGs. The stupid fucks lmao
>>750422379You found a way.
>>750424524>Tripcode anime name>Spreads disinfo and fear mongeringJapanese care even less about learning English than they did a few years ago and hate foreigners even moreNext to no children are playing this, barely any adults even are, less than .5 of the population knows it exists and even if they did, they would know how to pronounce ファイナルファンタジー before booting the game
>>750426215brother you are taking to the guy who sued From for hiding the going into games machine. He is better than the daily samefag threadshitters because at least he talks about vidya, but he is still an insane person
>>750426410stop spreading cancel culture. you're part of the problem too>HE'S SCHIZO, CANCEL AND FILTER HIM NOW!
>>750426443at least Manly Tears made me laugh because he was small
>>750381497Pretty damn impressive, what made it grow from some days ago? word of mouth?
>>750426814shazamtroons accidentally promoted the game by making the threads here too fast
>>750398119>Endwalker>Good>When they lobotomized SMN on top of continuing the downward spiral of class homogenizationNo.
>>750426814>what made it grow from some days ago?several factors, had marketing, decently priced, runs on toasters and appeals to the formers fans of the gacha it was based on
>>750426814Are you retarded it's the weekend. Of course it's going to get a higher peak on the first weekend after it's release.
>>750409989It's got the same story and characters and mechanics, it's just the areas are bigger and 3D and all of the paid gacha parts of the game have been stripped.
>go to Water Shrine>El charges ahead>oh no we need to go after him>have to do puzzles to reach the bottom because its flooded with water>but somehow El is already there and way ahead
>>750427396Except all those things are changed
>>750425739explain since you seem to know and I don't
>>750424456>There are people who've never played or heard of some of the most absolutely vile piles of shit ever producedAnd that's a good thing. I wish I were one of them.
>>750428369He's a warden of the WATER anon, he won't get stopped by a little water.With a hot wife who believes in him and loves him unconditionally. So of course he runs in ahead and feels the desire to prove him.I feel bad for nichol to have such a retarded family.
getting tired of expert bros, everything has like 200k hp, like the lvl 40 coliseum fight for example probably took 10 minutes of fighting and every party member needs to have dualcast+drain otherwise you might have to eat two turbo ethers during a boss battle, that's fucked up
>>750429956Stack more damage thenApply more debuffsMore buffsI did the brawler league at lvl 35 and lack of damage wasn't an issue. Didn't need to use any ethers or any MP restoration items of any sort.
>>750430125bullshit, my bartz lb hit some dude for 73k which is the highest ive ever seen in the game almost fourfold and barely made a dent in what i was fighting
>>750381497Wait, why does it have more players than Final Fantasy 16? That game was fun as fuck, the story was hype, and the graphics were gorgeous.
>>750430368well that's because ff16 is the worst final fantasy game since since ff15
>>750430368>Final Fantasy 16 - That game was fun as fuck, the story was hype, and the graphics were gorgeous.
This game is really good I am surprised and is FF6 coded which makes me happy as a millennial. I never played a game that retained it's old pixellated look but modernized it. They should remake every FF game up to 6 like this fuck doing a FF7 remake style
>>750430368>That game was fun as fuck, the story was hype, and the graphics were gorgeous.Well, looks like it was missing something
>>750430361the enemy has higher defense than your attack stat. try continue the main story for a while i guess, so you can get more access to stronger equipment.
>>750413241Does it really though? It doesnt work with restore MP on normal attack. Without the 30% buff thing its hard to tell where Im at with Improvement.
>>750430361You should be able to do like 60-70k a turn with one character at like lvl 45 pretty easily?And repeat this consistently for like 5-6 turns in a row.Even with going neutral on MP you should be able to do like 20k a turn at that level.Idk wtf u are doing wrong if you Like my lasswell at lvl 40ish was able to hit 15k with tranquility in quintis, which he would use 4 times a turn on his own, and has the MP to do this 5 turns in a row, which is 60k.If you add in buffs from nichol he was hitting close to 20k each and obviously spamming LB2 every turn to double lasswells attacks to 8 uses a turn.He was trivially doing over 100k a turnYou should have multiple adamantite from just colo to at least the custom weapons from aileen at this pointI am not sure what you are doing wrong if you think the monsters are particularly tanky, maybe expert isn't for you if you aren't actually trying to make use of what your characters do together?
>win the first 2 tiers of the arena>the third tier starts off at lvl 50 and goes all the way up to lvl 70>there's another whole tier after thatok, where are good places to farm?I already got the 2x exp rings
>>750430780Repost that without spoiling text like a faggot and I will answer
>>750430780>third spoilerActually anon there are TWO tiers after that
>>750430780if you already unlocked airship, then dragon maw i guess? it's on the soutwest part of pharm kingdom. the enemies there can be easily defeated by using magic barrage graviga + 1 aoe spell. i'd rather finishing the main story first though, after that you can start farming.>>750430823took me around 30~40 min to defeat the last league fight in expert mode. really fun.
Does Barrage from Noctis work with Squall's MP restore?
Ok you convinced me to try the demo, i don't like playing new games when they release but i will try to change my mind in the future
>>750430507please god
>>750431060no, only standard attack. barrage is a battle skill.
>>750431307Argh. What about counters? Does MP restore work with it.
>>750424524>becoming bilingual>becomingI keep seeing you around making posts like this. You're rather elitist about this for someone who only knows some basic Japanese and doesn't grasp basic facts about the country and language. I don't say this to be mean but I think you should spend more time studying and less time posturing about Japan supremacy. Good on you for being one of the few to study anything at all though I guess. Now go play some untranslated classics. FF was always westaboo shit.t. westoid who lives in Japan
>>750431589yes
>arms akimbo>double actioncan they be stacked?
>>750431745Yes
The funniest thing is this proves no one gives a shit about yoshi piss' action combat. People, zoomers and boomers alike, just want more good turn based RPGs.
>>750381497>42k>the most for any single player FF gamedid the 7 remakes really bomb that fucking hard that they didn't even hit 42k?
>>750431794Everyone already knew that. It didn't need to be proven yet again.
>>750431889There are some FF7R fags still trying to spin the story to this day.
>>750431589tested it with rain. no it doesn't work.
Battles look decently nice but the actual world is so fucking ugly, holy shit. I'll never warm up to HD2D, sorry.
>>750432013Figures. Mana battery Rain would be too OP I guess.
>>750431794Honestly i always preferred turn based but i am impressed by how much people like it too, i thought it was niche these days despite some heavy hitters sometimes
>>750432013It doesn't work with Wilhelm's counter since it isn't a basic attack. Normal counter does work with it though.
>>750432106In the year FF7Rebirth released every turn based JRPG by a major publisher was higher than it in every online marketplace's sales ranking. Even bad ones like Metaphor crushed it.
>>750432074from the HD2D i think octopath, DQ and live a live worlds were good visual wise, octopath 2 especially
>>750432013>>750432087If you want MP from getting hit there are two passives that give MP3% of your max MP every time you get hitand 2% of the damage you take as MPIts way easier than trying to get a few points back on counters
>>750432106I have no idea how anyone can think this in the current year. BG3 and E33 are some of the best selling RPGs of all time while action RPGs like FF7R and DA:V continue to underperform.
>>750432106Turn based games are incredibly popular.Not even just in the sphere of video games.But things like card games are incredibly popular, and I don't (just) mean trading card games, poker is turn based, blackjack is turned based, uno is turn based, pretty much any game with a deck of cards is turn based.Legitimately, the people who think there is something wrong with turn based games are they are somehow worse are genuinely too retarded to have other hobbies and its why they play video games.
>>750432263yeah i've been using that two passive too instead since i thought squall's passive doesn't work with counter. >>750432203so physical counter passive from WoL doesn't work too i guess?
>>750381497Action based bros...>Final Fantasy producer Naoki Yoshida has said that the reason Final Fantasy 16 doesn’t feature turn-based combat is so that the game will to appeal to a younger audience.
>>750432479Both regular physical and magical counters work with it.
>>750383413Because 2D Square good, 3D Square badRegardless of actual game quality
>>750432087>>750418017
>>750432667I tried it. WoL counters don't work either.
>>750432707But they're both horrible.
>>750432667weird, it doesn't work for me. using ring of retaliation doesn't work too.
>>750394269
>>750432479Its a bit more cumbersome, but you can use restore mana on crits which will work when your counter critsbut then that is running 3 abilities AND you need to be doing a crit build, which can be quite an ask to pair with other thingsIts pretty good on someone like lasswell who does TWO hits on his standard attack, so he gets twice as much mana back compared to rain who just done one.Especially if you just want more mana sustain and it all gets replaced by a single passive to get mana back when hit
does aileen need a certain chapter to start crafting weapons, cuz i maxed her vision and have adamantite and she's saying the same shit about watching me fight
>>750394269i guess vaan's observe and attack doing all the hard work restoring the MP.>>750433406for laswell and sakura i do use restore MP when crit and boost to damage when MP >75%. for sakura it works really well because akimbo+magic barrage+the magic MP cost is cheap and you cast them 8 times so you get 24% max mp back which is always make her MP full at higher level, as for laswell at least it reduce his MP consumption while increased his damage.>>750433484around the start of chapter 6 you can start crafting adamantite weapons iirc.
>>750433406Restore mp when taking damage will give infinite mana"Crit build" is literally just Cloud + aim with deathblowThe crit passives from Cloud is what allows you to do damageYou can add Lightning's skill too
>>750433756there's just so many good passives on so many visions, I guess I should have Lasswell finish Cloud when he's done getting Arms Akimbo. At least I did most visions to 6 on most characters
