>>224039120
Mormonism is just as wacky a sci-fi cult as Scientology but mostly gets a pass by pretending to be Christianity-adjacent

>>224039145

That must be why it's called The Church of Jesus Christ and not The Mormon Church

>>224039176
hey look we got a magic pajamas wearer

>>224039145
But mormonism is way older, it's from the early to mid 19th century before "scifi" existed as a genre really. It's just been adapted with scifi connotations especially by that one animation from the 70s

>>224039176
The Mormon Church makes more sense than using the name of Jesus to build a bullshit scam

>>224039145
>>224039196
these niggas ain't getting their own planet when they die LMAO

>>224039176
>thinking the name they made up for themselves exonerates them from that anon's accusation
subhuman level attempt at making a point

>>224039145
>an honest attempt to be completely true to the bible is so le wacky and randumb
kill yourself

>>224039271
Why didn't Moroni stop the Babylonian bullets from entering Joe Smith's head?

>>224039120
>>224039176
Mormons are not Christians by any means. They reject the Trinity and deny the true nature of Christ.

>>224039375
As a non-abrahamist I consider mormons to be christian. I consider anyone and everyone who self identifies as christian to be one.

>>224039145
It's more neo-pagan; it's derived from reading tablets from a daimon

>>224039120
i never understood this dialogue, but im not american

>>224039509
>As a non-abrahamist

Opinion discarded

>>224039579
>but you're from 4chan, right?
>no sir, i'm from /tv/
if you don't get it when it's explained like this, you never will

>MORMONS BAD
>I SAW A SOUTH PARK

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>>224039653 >>224041596 >>224042201

Funny, I was just reading a gay furry mormon visual novel the other day.
Anyway it just sounds like christianity for hipsters to me, I don't get any of this mormon stuff

>>224039630
>gay furry
>gay
Redundant

>>224039591
the other way around, opinions of those who worship jews should be discarded

>>224039271
Nothing in the Bible talks about getting your own planet after you die and ruling over it like a minor God

>>224039624
Yes, mormons are bad. No, I don't watch South Park.

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>>224039710

their prophet declared that going by "mormon" glorifies satan so now they always say the full name of the church instead

it's funny because the church used "mormon" everywhere for decades prior to that, pic related

>>224039687
>going by "mormon" glorifies satan
Wtf? Isn't a holy book of theirs called the book of mormon?

Regardless of how you feel about mormonism (personally I think it's a heretic neopagan sect which solely came about so old dudes could have multiple wives and be rich) it's undeniably extremely successful from a civilizational point of view. Plus, based on birth rates, the future of america will likely see them take over even more of the western US.

>>224039509
Then you're just retarded. You don't have to believe in a religion to understand the fundamental basic tenets of it.

>>224039196
Bananas in pajamas

>>224039598
I don't get it

>>224039219
Sci Fi is older than the 19th century. Voltaire wrote Micromegas in 1752.

>>224039145
Revealing you know nothing about either

>>224040088
I've read the Book of Mormon and the Bible cover to cover. The former has next to nothing to do with the latter and is actually distinctly Luciferian in character with its central conceit of deification (theosis / exaltation)

>>224039669
>those who worship jews
Oh look, he's one of those people

>>224039509
I don't believe in God, or Jesus, or magic, or buggering little boys, but I do very much enjoy hot cross buns every Easter, do I qualify?

>>224039271
at the foundation of mormonism is the idea that jesus went to america after his crucification, preached to some native american tribes, and john smith later found additional chapters of the bible from hitherto unknown apostles among the native americans.
he received a stone device from an angel that allowed him to translate those passages, nobody else was allowed to see them and he was the only one who could interpret them.

these additional passages include things nowhere else mentioned in the bible, including polygamy and the duty to baptize strangers without their knowledge and even dead people so they still go to heaven.

if you cant see that this is a huge scam, specifically concocted by some american con man settler who just wanted to make a sex cult and fuck women with impunity, then I dont know what to tell you. even for christian standards, mormonism is absurd and heretic.
these niggers just got lucky because they originated late and nobody bothered to crusade them anymore, like the albigenses or waldensians

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>>224040710 >>224041020 >>224045270 >>224045816

>every imbecile here is too stupid to get the reference

>>224039624
that episode ends with them saying mormons aren't that bad though. This is of course the wrong take, mormonism is terrible

>>224039145
they are wacky as opposed to catholicism which is sound and reasonable and 100% true

>>224040394
Did mormons kill people from kentucky?

>>224039598
mormonism is literally not christian so it makes perfect sense for him to say that. they reject the nicene creed, which is as basic as it gets

>>224040394
what is the reference then

>>224039120
Why are there so many threads about mormons lately? I hope it's not a jew thing.

>>224041311
Prepare for your hope to be dashed.

>>224041311
Mormonism is pushed by the CIA so more hardcore Israel supporters are born

>>224039120
lel
this cult managed to get my cousin to sign up after they camped outside his wrestling practice. they ended up visiting his house 4+ times cause he was stupid enough to give an address and started switching tactics after his parents told them to go away. they switched to sending pairs of mormon girls instead of the usual guys.

>>224039120
All religions are bullshit and if you believe in one you are a retard. If you disagree please post proof of your religion being real. Quotes from religious texts are not proof.

>>224041311
They want more mormons
Mormons are recruited by the feds because they need people proven to be susceptible to mind control.

>>224041355
I really don't know what I expected.

>>224041444
Post proof atoms are real

>>224039630
>gay furry mormon
Yo what's up with that? The guy who shot Charlie Kirk was also a gay furry mormon. Is that a big thing over there?

>>224039715
>it's undeniably extremely successful from a civilizational point of view.
Any niggas that can move to the middle of the desert and prosper are going to have some real ones. I definitely admire that aspect of them. You might be making a connection to jews after reading this but jews failed at that, they got kicked out. The mormons kicked out the indians. I bet that's why jews are so pissed at them.

>>224041496
What does that have to do with what I posted? Did you think this was a witty reply? You must be severely mentally disabled. How can you even use a computer to post?

>>224039227
how does thinking you get your own planet to rule over make since

>>224041776
You sound upset that you don't understand my point. I hope that's not the case

>>224039630
>christianity for hipsters to me
not at all. i would more say that gnostics are that. mormons are just normies from certain places of Goymerica that fell for some retards scam 200 years ago lol. they are basically just a stereotypical retarded american cult that somehow stuck around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

>>224041776
Damn you got fucking owned dude

>>224039271
Every Mormon is a cuck. Some kid crawled out of the woods and said "I met God in there. He said Brigham and I can fuck your wives," and every Mormon stood up and said OH MY GOD YES and then they married hundreds of young girls and fucked everyone's wives. You're all cucks, or descendants of cucks, you're spiritual and literal cucks.

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>>224041596
Being gay is a big no no in mormonism. Furshit lets you fulfill all your sexual fantasies. Ergo, repressed homosexuals flock to it. Can't be a fag irl but you can be a fag among furries

>>224041444
And in the next breath you'll 100 percent, without any doubt or irony, assert "Nothing happens after you die". The basis for that? "It's just how I feel". You already have a religious belief system, it's just towards a nihilistic cult.

>>224042301
Even a year and a half ago I wouldn't have believed you but now this actually tracks. I'm not saying I believe it, but it's believable. What a world.

>>224041444
Trips of truth

>>224039120
Dum dum dum dum dumb!

>>224042308
And like any good cult that fag doesn't even realize he's in one. "Science" obviously is not a cult, but the self sure mentality guys like that espouse might as well be. "There's nothing after death!" they say with absolute certainty, despite one of the core tenets of science being any theory must be verified before it can become a principle

>>224042500
>>224042308
Where were you before you were born? Do you remember? Of course not. The same will be when you die. You will not remember where you will go when you die. Because your brain will be dead. The same place you were before you were born is the same place we will a go. None of these dumb motherfuckers writing fake bibles thought of that. Nigga

>>224042566
First establish that the formulation of a soul requires consciousness before it.

>>224042607
Do you form consciousness already knowing about the soul?

>>224042639
I don't really know what you're trying to say, but if the argument is "If you don't have any knowledge or experience of what happened before you were born" then it doesn't automatically disqualify the existence of a soul without first establishing that a soul requires consciousness before its existence. Otherwise, you're just circling back to a belief system that requires faith in it. A completely nihilistic conclusion doesn't absolve you from the same problems you condemn in other religions.

>>224039271
>an honest attempt to be completely true to the bible
Ok but we were talking about Mormonism though.

>>224039598
Mormons are not Christians, your example would work if you said
>but you're from 4chan right?
>no sir I'm from sharty!

>>224042607
First establish that souls exist.

>Do you get paid?
>No sir, I do it for free!

>>224039145
Islam is just desert Mormonism.

>>224042758
Do you get consciousness and then already know what soul is?

>>224039375
The concept of the Trinity doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible and was pushed by hard-line Greek philosophy fags at the Council of Nicaea. It wasn’t even unanimously supported.

>>224043567
>t. Person who never read the new testament at all

>>224039240
they're correct about blacks though. We should send black ppl into the sun.

>>224039120
I didn’t bother reading the thread but I want to point out that it’s Mormons who will do the “noooo saaarrr I’m Christian” while being told they’re not so this doesn’t make sense

I judge a tree by it's fruit, and Mormons are very pleasant and nice people, who don't even really push their religion as aggressively as others do. The other Christian denominations are miserable pricks who you can tell really hate life.

>>224039120
what makes mormons so based compared to other brands of christians?

>>224043775
nothing. idk why you think its epic and based to like them simply because everyone finds them to be retarded

>>224043696
>and Mormons are very pleasant and nice people
Until you make it clear you want nothing to do with the LDS religion, because their pleasant demeanor is with the unsaid intent to convert people to Mormonism. Watch how fast they'll ghost you then.

mormons > other christians

>>224043968
Ghost this dih up yo ahh innit mate.

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>>224043775
Their greatest achievement is that one guy from Fallout: New Vegas: Honest Hearts and the Colt 1911, the most basic handgun from Call of Duty: World at War.

>>224043775
They're just natural born chads set apart from the rest who are all just christcucks.

>>224039176
Leaving out the Latter Day Saints bit.

>>224040657
underrated

>>224043968
>Watch how fast they'll ghost you then.
Not my experience at all. After I made it clear I wasn't interested, they stopped ever bringing it up, and they're still friendly with me and invite me to their home. Are you sure you weren't nasty and unpleasant yourself?

>>224041924
You think you made some sort of argument?

>>224042308
What would lead anyone to believe that isn’t the case?

>>224042500
Do you mean hypothesis?

>>224040394
>You have to be smart to "get a reference"
Ironically this post is by far the stupidest in this entire thread

>>224043775
Polygyny

>>224043775
No matter how hard you try, no matter how much you try to market it, I do not accept your cuck cult.
>but theyre so nice!
>look at this total chad
A heretic cult of literal cuckolds who let other people dick down their wives until the US government told them to stop. And after that they threw big rage fit and made little compounds because they wanted their wives to get fucked that bad. You are perverts and should be gassed. And you couldnt even restrain your depravity to your wives, you insisted you needed to give your daughters over to be fucked too because youre that big of a cuck.

>>224039591
Painfully based.

>>224040347
>these additional passages include things nowhere else mentioned in the bible, including polygamy
There's plenty of polygamy in the bible.

>>224039120
I will never forget the one time some Mormon guy put up a Kotaku article or something similar about how Fallout NV did a great job of integrating a Mormon character into the game and bringing awareness to an audience who may not have heard of Mormonism. Well, what followed next was everyone in the comment section of the article cooking him for being a Mormon.

>>224040806
>mormonism is literally not christian so it makes perfect sense for him to say that.
It doesn't though, because they think they are Christian, so he would've answered yes irl.

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>>224045832

A thread on Mormonism and no one's mentioned this film yet.

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>>224039271
>completely true to the bible
Not even mor(m)ons believe you retard
You follow Joe Smith (a notorious swindler and con artist before his "conversion")'s retarded cult that he used to try to become president and shit
Mor(m)on books are so fucking retarded

>>224039145
Scientology, Mormonism and Christianity are all backed by the same amount of evidence

>>224040394
Willow?

>>224045760
I just want more films of hugh grant ranting for 30 minutes

>>224041818
Agnostic here, what part of any religion "makes since(sic)"

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>>224045792
lol, this.

And anyone who believes any of it is a blithering fool.

>>224041311
The CCP and other BRICS shitskins have a vested interested in dividing the United States against itself.

>>224045792
>>224045837
That's nice, but Mormonism is still a fraudulent religion, more so than any other established faith.

>>224045816
USE THE WAND ON THAT TROLL

>>224045044
>You think you made some sort of argument?
Not yet. You haven't shown me any proof so there isn't much to say other than I hope you are not angry. Angry people have difficulty learning

>>224043775
Recency bias new = good old = bad

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>>224039120
Friendly reminder how Mormonism got exposed and Joe Smith died
>be William Law and brother, devout mor(m)ons
>start to get a whiff that Joe Smith's little pathetic cult is retarded
>get out of there and found your own mor(m)on variant
>realize how fucking stupid mor(m)onism actually is once you get to read real Bibles from caths and prots now that you don't have to live under Joe Smith's thumb
>decide to write a newspaper exposing Joe's little cult
>write Nauvoo Expositor
>expose Joe Smith from protecting a criminal who had stolen $4k in bonds from US marshalls (worth millions of dollars nowadays with inflation)
>expose Joe Smith for having secret rituals with young underage women to marry and rape them
>expose Joe Smith for wanting to become emperor of the US by winning the elections then merging religious and state authority, contradicting the constitution, and putting himself above Christ Himself as law
>expose Joe Smith from literally making laws that state that if anyone even slightly accuses him of heresy they are to be arrested immediately and left to rot in prison
>expose Joe Smith for saying that "gentiles" (anyone who isn't a mor(m)on) deserve to have their shit stolen and houses burnt down because they're "spoiled"
>expose Joe Smith for commiting countless acts of adultery
>expose multiple of Joe Smith's early life cons and fraud schemes and failures during his "ministry" and failed predictions
>joe smith panicks
>sends down his cultists to burn down your press for free speech
>flee and tell US law enforcement
>US army arrives and arrests Joe Smith
>Smith sends a letter to Brigham Young telling him to storm the jail to save his ass, Young basically ignores it
>Smith smuggles in a gun
>hears a group of people arriving, tells the guard to leave cause they're surely mor(m)ons and too much for him
>turns out they're rioters pissed at Smith for fucking with them for years
>shoots and kill three
>dies from getting shot

>>224039271
you're wrong and retarded on at least two levels. First of all mormonism is not an honest attempt to be true to the bible. Second, an honest attempt to be true to the bible is wacky and randumb. It's a book written by primitive sand people thousands of years ago
>>224045917
this fucking guy lmao. Mormonism is as fraudulent as christianity

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>>224046064
(cont.)
>be mor(m)on church
>realize how badly you've fucked up as tons of members leave
>rewrite history so that Joe Smith was actually heckin' innocent and arrested for nothing
>Nauvoo Expositor never existed
>Joe actually died falling from his jail cell, he totally didn't kill three innocent men
>cult still slowly crumbles
>manage to get some importance back in the 20th/21st centuries with your cleaned up "heckin' wholesomerino good boys" image
>internet happens
>people post Joe Smith's personal diary, Nauvoo Expositor and books exposing the cult for free on internet archives
>cult forced to admit that Joe Smith was a cult leader
>tons of people lead
>mfw modern mor(m)ons are all literal luddites who ignore basic info they can get in three secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SX-pdGIXUU

>>224041311
This happens every few months where they sincerely make an effort to occupy the board and its always the same. "Theyre total chads bro" to "well theyre so nice" then when people talk about their stupid religion outside that retarded framing they scurry like little rats. The idea youre not fucking stupid and can comprehend bad shit can indeed come about with a smile.

>>224046064
>>Smith sends a letter to Brigham Young telling him to storm the jail to save his ass, Young basically ignores it
Gonna guess that Brigham Young realized he could hijack Smith's cult and moved west.

>mormonism is a stupid, made up religion
as opposed to...

>>224046324
Yes, that and he wasn't a suicidal delusional retard. Smith genuinely believed he could con his way out and that he had the power to go against the US army. Brigham knew that they got lucky there wasn't much oversight and that now that Smith was in prison he was fucked.

>>224046339
Atheism

>>224046389
in 2k years no one will remember joseph smith made it up. It will become as "true" as whatever denomination you now larp as follower of

>>224042566
There are many things you forget about in life. What did you have for lunch on the 11th of october? Who's to say I haven't just forgotten what happened to me, in whatever state I existed in, before I was born?

>>224046642
> Who's to say I haven't just forgotten what happened to me, in whatever state I existed in, before I was born?
That’s exactly what I said retard.

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Mormons are some of the nicest people ever and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>224043968
you're projecting. This is how you behave so you assume every religious person is like that. But the difference is they are really religious and not fucking larpers. I'm an atheist and my best friends are a married mormon couple

>>224046771
It's too extreme of a generalization to say all Mormons will ghost you, but they DO have a thing called "Friendshipping"
I suspect it's more noticeable in concentrated Mormon communities like Utah, but stray ones outside that are more likely to be cool

>>224040806
mormonism takes christianity and makes it better/more coherent

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>>224039145
>YOU'RE MAKING THINGS UP AGAIN ARNOLD

>>224045769
I find Mormonism an interesting parallel to Islam.
Obvious charlatan claims to be the ultimate prophet so he can score money and pussy, makes up incoherent Abrahamic fanfiction as he goes along, inbred desert-dwellers eat it up and aggressively proselytize while lying to your face about what they actually believe.
The weird part is how most Mormons are functional highish-IQ whites. You'd think they'd be above that. I distrust them deeply.

For me it's Turn It Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE4kmEoJy18

>>224039145
Mormons are going to be the only white peoples left in 100 years time

>>224039271
>being true to an obvious work of made up nonsense
why tho

>>224043635
John 1 literally proves the Trinity completely false if you stop reading it with a view brainwashed by Greek metaphysics.

>>224046324
>Cult formed so that a guy can bang his friends' underaged daughters
>Inherited by a man called "Bring 'Em Young"
Bravo Kojima

Ask a Mormon if they're a Christian and they'll say yes

>>224047524
>No, I'm not having gay thoughts!
>Alright! it worked!!

>>224045498
>malding christcuck
uh oh melty

>>224040347
It is a new testament thing to be antipolygamy because Christ and Paul were somewhere between implicitly and explicitly antinatalist.