TORI !
>>224030142>here's that kage level dude who uses his magic eyes to steal like a thousand techniques dude>just jobs to some merc from a third world nation without the help of his students
>>224030180ChadKashi was holding back so Naruto and Sasuke could show off some elite ninja skills
was the femboy sexslave really needed for the plot?
>>224030300I did not like that it was heavily implied that zabuza was a pedo that fucked that boy on the regular
>>224030180Zabuza was from one of the big 5 villages and was one of the 7 Swordsman of the Mist.
>>224030300Yes.
Naruto up to the Sasuke retrieval arc was peak anime and then there was a few moments in shippudden but then they really shit the bed. Still theres not many other animes that had fights as good. YYH dark tournament is still the best>>224030348This anon knows
>>224030325The show also is quite clear that he was happy to be an underage femboy sex slave and he and zabuza will be reunited in the afterlife. Good ol' Japan.
>>224030368Post more naruto memes please
Gaysuke killed the series
>>224030142Go back to /a/
>>224030453No. Kisame... we're leaving.
>>224030453
>>224030433When you realize theres no age of consent it becomes less wrong, I mean shit women used to start families at like 14
>>224030180Zabuza was one of the strongest shinobi from the Mist Village. The land of Waves mission was leagues above what genin are qualified for.
>>224030142I remember liking Naruto so much as a kid but then it became a lot like Dragon Ball with super power nonsense and the animation got lazy.
imagine kunoichi vhs porn
>>224030500This is some mandela effect conspiracy. Give me the exact episode and scene where he says this because I can't find it
>>224030859He said it in my DVD copy
>>224030500>pussies out from fighting Guy>pussies out from fighting JiraiyaKishi had to retcon him to make him look like less of a little bitch, nevermind the fact that he would still lose to them nevertheless
>>224030993Itachi was strong but still knew when to back down. He was mostly a guy who worked behind the scenes
Naruto literally peaked here.
>>224030453Rin is gone..
>>224030788I think of this sometimes with this series.It makes no sense that everyone is at war. Everyone can change into anyone and anything, I have no idea how the Naruto verse isn’t a massive sexual paradise.
>>224030859I remember him saying it. It happens the first time they come back to the leaf village. I always found it weird because the Akatsuki are always so organized and this visit seemed pointless given that they weren't planning on capturing Naruto before the other jinchuriki.
>super elite ninja soldiers>ghosted every important fightwhy were they gassed up so hard
>>224030993did you miss out the point he was literally the killswitch for his whole clan ? and how he fought his little brother just so he can win against the sharingan later on? god you people are retards
>>224030453My pain is far greater than yours!
>>224032630They suck actually. Only named ANBU like Itachi, Kakashi and Yamato are genuinely strong
>>224032615They are always at war because ninja countries don't want the others to grow too dominant. IRL we have countries trying to have better economies and industries but in the Naruto world they fight each other with magic and ninja weapons
>>224032630Because Kishimoto can't write. Which is unfair for me to say because I do believe everything before Shippuden is weirdly cerebral but he also makes the ANBU job in the original show. I guess I just appreciated all the ninja fights being more tactical.
>>224033099>Kishimoto can't writeSo just like most manga "artists" then?
>>224032670In the tender year of like 2011 or 2014 or whatever I had stopped watching Naruto for a long while and wondered how the Pain fight turned out I youtubed it. I legitimately thought it was fan animation for several years after and that the anime hadn't reached that point yet because all I found were these actual scenes which were animated like ASS. I am not joking.
>>224033171Yes. I need to find more mature anime. Like 90% of anime is trash because it's so juvenile and doesn't do worldbuilding. The Japanese are autistic as a race and while that has pros, the cons are their writing is so dry.
>>224033099>I guess I just appreciated all the ninja fights being more tactical.fairly common sentiment. Sharingan and Six Paths wank made later Shippuden fights knockoff dragonball.
Itachi solos everyone btw
>>224032907Wars are fought for access to water or access to women.People can piss entire waterfalls in this series and everyone can become a playboy model. What do people fight over in a world like this?Unless the Uchiha are just that shit.
>>224033177The animation is good. The art style is absurd and distorted because they were trying to show the characters are extremely powerful and fast. You also have to remember Pain is a corpse being controlled with magic chakra strings and Naruto is a fox demon made of chakra during the fight
>>224033189The true con is 90% cannot writte a good or even a passable ending
Naruto is gay.
>>224033235 Couldn't solo his disease LOL
>>224033238underage
>>224030142the anime really fell off after this
>>224032630When I was a little kid I thought these guys were cool as fuck
>>224030180Good job not paying attention to story details you tard.
>infinite tsukuyomi plan is bad because....IT JUST IS OK???
>>224034480Then why didn't he just infinite tsukuyomi himself into believing he succeeded in his plan? Oh wait it wouldn't be real lmao.
>>224030180Zabuza was top tier by Part 1 standards. Shippuden added a lot of powercreep, someone like Sasori could wipe the Leaf off the face of the Earth if he tried.
>>224034480the aliens would have come and harvested the chakra and the jutsu would have been ruined in a few years anyways
>>224030142TRAP !
>>224033300Me after they catch me posting racism online
>>224030180Zabuza was a big deal though
I cried when Haku died
>>224030406Nah, it was trash from episode 1. The writing is so terrible you have to be a real retard to praise it so highly.
>>224033238>in this series and everyone can become a playboy model. You can make a clone, have it transform and fuck your own model even. You can make your very own harem. Which is actually a move in this show.Realistically, the human race wouldn’t even be breeding in this show. In a universe like this, everyone is just fucking themselves.
>>224034480It's genuinely bad. Madara having godlike powers could have solved almost every problem in the world for real. Instead he just wanted to send everyone into a Matrix dream and suck their chakra.
>>224038202>You can make a clone, have it transform and fuck your own model evenThat's incredibly gay. But narutards are natural gaylords so it tracks.
>>224032670>>224033177My fucking face when retards praise jujutsu kaisen season 3 for the animation and it's nearly the same as this shit. I don't care how much skill it took to make, it looks fucking horrid in motion.
Early Naruto art was more edgy. I liked that.
>>224033244Neat. Why does Pein gets bonked into the ground by a tree like a nail gets hammered as though he belonged in Tom and Jerry?
>>224030180Zabuza tried to assassinate the leader of his village that was a jinchuriki and was aiming to give it another go
>>224038645Because it looks fun and also to show Pain is so durable not even a giant hammer can't harm him
I dropped the anime at the big war and the undead shenanigans clearly inspired by the zombie trend that was in style at the time. The war seems fucking stupid, you see these giant crowds seemingly fighting, but in reality it is all down to duels of named characters.
>>224039032You didn't miss much. Madara's final form is kino but he jobs the very next episode after achieving maximum power
AMATERASU
>>224033235He and Sasuke got spanked by Kabuto.
>>224037745>>224036220>>224034807necro
>>224037805Funny when he's brought up again he's referred to as "oh that kid" by this giga chad.
>>224030142It legit took 5 minutes to cast water dragon back then
>>224039241>giga chad>not giga sharkDo you even Kisame?
>>224039241The Akatsuki were all giga-powerful to the extent that even Orochimaru was considered a weaker member by their standards and he personally killed a kage. I found the story became way less interesting after they were killed off
>>224030693Madara was a sadist, turned nihilist bordering on gnostic doomer. Nagato was a pragmatist and his plan was nuclear deterrence, literally the world we live in. He just went too far with the whole god larping. And butchering his friend's corpse with piercings.
>>224038530Kakashi's "they were your students, now they're my soldiers" line sets up how ruthless the ninja world actually is and that the kids are expected to die. This edge gets lost once it stops being about black ops missions and more about the leaf village politics.
>magic lantern fucking up for anyone else?>cast ushi hitsuji Me>ushi hitsuji ne?>No. ushi hitsuji me.>ne?>me.>ne?>ME
>>224039523The politics never made sense anyway. Each country is ruled by the feudal lords, and the ninja villages are like mini countries within them and the kage answer to the feudal lords. Except the kage often can literally destroy mountains, but they bow and scrape before a bunch of regular dudes because...
>>224039423Pain, Obito, Itachi and Kisame are the only Akatsuki members stronger than Orochimaru. He's firmly in the middle.
>>224039605Japs are like that
>>224039146
>>224039433Nagato in the manga wanted to make his village stronger and destroy the other villages or bring the Leaf down. The artwork makes it clear his village is clean while the rest of the ninja world is run down. Only Danzo has that clean in contrast to the village being damaged
>>224039688Funny how the Rain village is supposed to be small, weak and poor but also looks like a futuristic cyberpunk city
You are already trapped in my genjutsu.
>>224040172>>224030500lets be honest that genjustsu shit was just the animators being too lazy to make itachi fight
>>224039433No, Madara was suppose to represent a Übermensch
>there is this guy Itachi>can trap anyone in a genjutsu with a flick of a finger>basically undefeatable>...>but he has aids so he is gonna die tomorrow
>>224037805But he really isn't. I recently rewatched it and all he can really do is stall with Water Prison and Hidden Mist, once it comes to a straight 1v1 with Kakashi he loses quickly both timesAnd in the 2nd fight Haku literally sacrifices his life to save Zabuza and he STILL loses
>>224039032same, everything about that was lame>Kishimoto doesn't want to come up new villains so he just reuses a bunch of characters as zombies>the zombies still have their original consciousness, but good guy zombies don't even seem to care that much that they're killing their allies>all the villages also work together perfectly with barely any power struggles or conflict anymore>every village traded their cool headband icons for a generic shinboi alliance gooktext oneso boring
>>224030325>zabuza was a pedo that fucked that boy on the regularYeah, and I heard that originally it was supposed to be a regular girl but the editors told the author that was too much, so he changed her to a femboy without changing the design because that was somehow better.
You now remember the theory that the Akatsuki leader (AL) was actually Minato. So the Naruto vs Pain fight would be basically Luke vs Darth Vader
>>224039146I'LL SAVE YOU, SASUKE MY LOVER
>>224042012i dont get it
>>224042111Old and young kino I assume
>>224042012Ino was the ideal gf for Naruto
>>224040856he wasn'tnothing about his motivations made sense
I stopped watching/reading at some point. Does Sakura try to hook up with Naruto once she hits the wall and Naruto gets high social status?
>>224042883noshe marries Sasuke
>>224030142I can't stand anime shit anymore now that I'm older, what was stopping each of them to just spam substitute jutsus over and over so they didn't get hurt? This shit is so retarded
>>224040998Mist ninjas have always been the normal people not relying on talent and tailed beasts. Kakashi is equal to Zabuza, he's not a /fit/zen like Gai who can beat people without aid
>>224043096Sakura does the substitution jutsu in the exams and shadow clones while Naruto unintentionally uses ones correctly. It's just boring and not flashy against criminals like Orochimaru, Deidara, or Pein
>>224043105For me, it's Mei
>>224043086Poor Sasuke
>>224030453PAIN ?
>>224040998yes, but Kakashi is a big deal too!
This has yet to be refuted: YOU ARE MY FRIEND
>>224043604For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97dkzVU4p-M
>>224040998Despite his fuckhuge sword and my lack of Naruto lore wasnt he a straight up assassin and the water mist trick was basically his entire bit? Kakashi was infinitely well rounded because of his eye which was basically a cheat code. He could do anything anyone else could and had his own seemingly unique shit on top of that like the ninja dogs. If the water mist bit doesnt work all Zabuza has is a big fucker sword and that one water dragon spell but Kakashi immediately stole that too.
>the true villain is... Pain!>just kidding! the man behind the curtain is... Nagato! he's the real villain!>just kidding! the man behind the curtain is... Madara! he's the real villain!>just kidding! the man behind the mask is... Obito! he's the real villain!>just kidding! the man behind the curtain is... actually Madara after all! he's the real villain!>just kidding! the man behind the curtain is actually... white zetsu?>it's uh, not a man at all, but a woman who is also god! she was the villain all along!shippudden was so fucking gay
>>224044434Zabuza is strong yes, but like you said his main powers are just water and mist control. He serves the purpose of building up Kakashi as a brave, powerful and righteous sensei to the kids. And this way you can tell someone like Orochimaru is extremely strong and intimidating because even Kakashi is afraid of going 1 v 1 against him
>>224044509Yeah iirc as soon as Kakashi breaks out the eye its over for Zabuza so they cannot be close to equals. The only accomplishment Zabuza really got was forcing Kakashi to take his headplate/eyepatch off for 5 minutes. Which is probably a big accomplishment itself but Kakashi starts stealing Zabuza's own moves immediately then breaks his fucking arms and was going to just kill him. That eye is some real nigger shit, good luck fighting any faggot with that bullshit. Got some special trick up your sleeve? Not anymore, assfaggot. And didnt Kakashi even know how to use the Gates Guy did, just not as well? There cant be anyone in the setting more well rounded than Kakashi who actually used his eye the way it should've been. He just went around and copied everyone else's shit and sat on it forever like some ninja skill bank. He was basically a Blue Mage. Oh and he even watches all the kids fight meaning if he just lifts that eyepatch up he now knows everything so being a Jonin and getting to monitor the kids during their exams means anything they can do, he can do (excepting only tailed beast stuff like Gaara).
YOU ARE MY FRIENDAA AAAAAAAAA
>>224044491Kishimoto fucked up a lot. The original idea was clearly to have Madara as the final villain. Also, the rinnegan was obviously something different and unrelated to the sharingan. Pain was like a miracle kid. He was an orphan from a small, war-torn village and somehow he had these legendary demigod eyes. Even the experienced and knowledgeable Jiraiya couldn't believe it.
it still bugs me how underutilized the other jiinchuriki wereJango Fett ass niggas
I love Naruto
>>224044674There were too many characters.You already have main heroes like Naruto, Kakashi, Sakura, Killer Bee, the kages, the supporting cast like Shikamaru and Temari. Imagine you add all the jinchurikis to these heroes, the story would become an even bigger mess
>>224044779You're wrong.
>>224046121Actually you're wrong
>>224030180good bait
>>224030180kakashi was nerfed for having to protect 3 genin and the bridge builder
>>224030859its just after they rape Kurenaibut only in the German version
>>224030142Naruto would be a generational masterpiece if only Kishimoto was good at worldbuilding.
>>224046746I'd argue it already is and most major fantasy series have the exact same problems. People spend days arguing about stupid nonsense in all of them.
>>224033099>he also makes the ANBU job in the original show.he kinda makes everyone job in the original show
>>224030859Episode 81.
>>224044633>Even the experienced and knowledgeable Jiraiya couldn't believe it.>Jiraiya finds a kid with literal god eyes, the Jesus/Buddha equivalent of their world, reborn>welp you kids take care of yourselves, I gotta go, bye!What the fuck was wrong with him?
>>224030406>YYH Dark Tournament >It's a Kuwabara fightPure fucking kinoAlso, Tayuya a cute and she was gone too soon.
>>224044609It's a law of nature that the 2nd intro song to an anime is always magnitudes worse than the first
>>224030453Very weak memes posted so far, i'll contribute some
>>224036220I know
>I'm going to use a jutsu that somehow allows me to cheat death and because I'm that nigga I'm the only one without senju chakra able to use it after I died for daysbiggest plot hole imo
>>224044633Not his fault, (((they))) made him retcon in Kaguya to leave room for sequel series
>>224047618""'(((They)))"'' want you to watch """(((the sequel)))"""
>>224030300Actually the character was initially written to be female. Kishimoto was asked to make him male by an editor because they didn't want the audience to think Zabuza was fucking her. The point of the character is that they are sensitive and kind but have been twisted by the world into being a ruthless killing machine, which is why he is still so feminine. The relationship is father and child. Any other interpretation is incorrect and is either a demented coomers fantasy or someone who lacks reading comprehension and/or wants to push their political agenda. One Piece is the shonen that supports tranny rights, and Naruto is unironically too high IQ for anyone who falls into the aforementioned categories.
>>224030406Sasuke retrieval arc is good too. Shippuden was fine but the final saga was rushed by the editors and so we missed things that should have happened like Sasuke massacaring the Konoha 9
>>224047730> Unironically pretending you wouldn't break your rapestick off in Haku's tight bussy and make poopbabiesFAGGOR.
>>224047730>Zabuza keeps an underage twink he is not related to and he dresses and acts like a girl on the cusp of womanhoodThat is a way, way bigger red flag lmao, what is wrong with japs
>>224032630they were doing stuff for Danzo
>>224039608Deidara no diffs all of these with a BANG
>>224044582the sharingan could be beat, at least at that point the story. You could move faster than he could react like with Minato's instant tp bullshit or if you screened Kakashi's vision with some sandstorm or insect chakra swarm.Iirc kakashi can't copy any jutsu, just the stuff he has the chakra type for. Although I think I remember him using that great fireball thing sasuke does so I might be wrong on that.
>>224047999He has a lightning spell and a water spell from Zabuza (he copied him at the same speed even though hed never seen it before) and I think he also copied a fire one and a wood one at one point so he can do whatever he wants unless its some genetic thing like the bone guy but I could be dead wrong, I haven't watched Naruto in 20 years.
>>224043303he spends 90 percent of his panel time avoiding Sakura lol
>>224030406The Zabuza arc was written by Kishimotos editor. That's why it's good and everything else sucks.
>>224047730>Actually the character was initially written to be female. Kishimoto was asked to make him male by an editor because they didn't want the audience to think Zabuza was fucking her. The point of the character is that they are sensitive and kind but have been twisted by the world into being a ruthless killing machine, which is why he is still so feminine. The relationship is father and child. Any other interpretation is incorrect and is either a demented coomers fantasy or someone who lacks reading comprehension and/or wants to push their political agenda. One Piece is the shonen that supports tranny rights, and Naruto is unironically too high IQ for anyone who falls into the aforementioned categories.wakashu.
>>224048070yeah same I never re-read it after how disappointed I was by the last few years of Naruto. Looked it up and you're right, he can use every element.
>>224047048He was a coomer
>>224047618imagine if the ending was just Might Guy annihilating Madara with the eight gates and the ultimate lesson of the series is that hard work will indeed overcome natural talent, just like they preached in the beginning
>>224047385why is he making his daughter sweaty?
>>224049305That would be too based for Japan
why are you guys talking about naruto on halloween?
>>224049305Naruto literally immediately learned to cheat victories by spamming shadow clones which he could only ever do because he was hijacking 9 tails Chakra and had essentially limitless reserves.
>>224049305Actually hard work beats natural talent was never supported by the story. Rock Lee lost his fight to Gaara who hadn't even used his tailed beast yet, and his only W is against someone already dying before the battle starts and also he only wins because Gaara comes and helps him. Neji worked a hell of a lot harder than Naruto, hell most of the ninjas worked harder than Naruto including Sasuke and Sakura. Rock Lee's real message is you can work your ass off but that doesn't mean you'll always succeed. A more bitter but honest message, I mean look at the real world. Most hard working people have worse quality of life and less money than total deadbeats and people working at make believe adult daycare jobs. Unfortunately what you are born with can and will be far more impactful than what you can accomplish through sheer effort alone. What's some kid with cerebral palsy supposed to do? "Ahh just work harder little buddy and you can be a UFC champ someday!" No. You should work at your dream but you need to accept what is and is not possible too or some sandnigger will break your arm and leg and you'll never even open the 7th or 8th gate
>>224046746I think the story would be better with the villains being more condensed and distinctPain = evil counterpart to NarutoObito = evil counterpart to KakashiMadara = evil counterpart to HashiramaI liked Tobi with the white mask and he has cool scenes but his motivations suck. He probably suffered even LESS than Kakashi and went crazy because his childhood crush died. The guy is like 30 and still can't get over itMadara should be the real mastermind behind everything. Have Pain betray Obito and then Obito betrays Madara but he ends up being too powerful and only the combined power of all heroes can take him down.
>>224049587he didn't even need to cheat, he had extra large reserves from his mom's lineage
>>224030300>femboyNo one talked that way. You either call him a boy or a trap. You dumb kids and your annoying modern slang.
>>224049703Whats weird about Obito and Rin is he could've just made a deal with Orochimaru/ Kabuto to just revive Rin for himcin exchange for... Idk Sasuke. Not a perfect fix but it would be her. He could even have her reverse the technique so they couldn't desummon her at will or control her any more. That way even if they died she'd still be around essentially immortal. Seems a lot simpler than mindraping the planet minus yourself while you just stare at a bunch of caccoons untilnthe heat death of the universe
>>224049509Because Naruto is cool
>>224049702Kakashi is another example he is a lazy gooner who reads porn for a hobby but he lucked out with a magic eye he was just given. All he had to do was stand there and watch other people fight. His only original jutsu is just a lightning fist which shows how uncreative and lazy he was. Actual children would come up with more creative things with less to work with.
>>224050083Kakashi is lazy sometimes but he also trained a lot. Even before Obito gave him the sharingan, Kakashi was training hard and became strong enough to defeat a pure blooded Uchiha kidPeople complain about the secondary characters being useless but you have to remember the series itself is called NARUTO. The most relevant characters are all Uzumaki, Uchiha or Senju. Even the hardest workers can't beat sharingan/rinnegan eyes or tailed beasts with infinite chakra. The only exceptions are characters like Kakashi, Minato and Jiraiya who are very powerful without any natural gifts for some reason
>>224050214The Uchiha are so dumb its unreal. Theyre lucky they had magic eyes. Doesn't it work the same for all of them? You'd think they'd all be known as copycats but instead they spent all day shooting fireballs and learning genjutsu. If you have 100 Uchiha imagine the amount of shit they could all copy and then copy to each other if they'd focused on that. Every time they fight any other village ninja theyd learn at least 1 or 2 water or sand ninjutsu, that would add up like fucking crazy. Within a generation or 2 every Uchiha would know how to access the Gates up to a certain level, every element ninjutsu, and advanced genjutsu. What were they even doing again? I cant remember anything other than thinking they had it coming when they got wiped out.
>>224050303Nameless Uchiha are all jobbers
>>224050489HOW. Don't they all have the eyes? HOW DO YOU JOB WITH THAT SHIT.
>>224050303I think your best friend or loved one has to die for you to get the upgraded eyes. Are basic sharingan any good?
>>224041062>Yeah, and I heard that originally it was supposed to be a regular girlNo, it was supposed to be a full-blown gorilla. Kishimoto wanted talking animals in the cast for some reason, and the teacher at the school would also be one
>>224050527Kakashi had the copy cat name with the basic set. He didnt get the extra special version until he was like 30 years old. So unless Obito's eye was just extra special always, every Uchiha should have the instant learning copy setup Kakashi did. Which would give Konaha an unreal advantage. Every village would have to play every fight defensively. If any Uchiha was watching, every time someone uses a special skill they can copy, then they get stronger and you're giving them your secrets for free.
>>224050499I don't rememer if the show just does the whole exposition thing about how the sharingan really work but during some fights like Sasuke vs Killer Bee we can realize that the eyes just give the user SOME advantage but if he can't keep up with the strength and speed of his enemy, it's simply not enough. And this is Sasuke who is basically a prodigy of his clan
I hate how Itachi was actually a good boy who didnt do nothing wrong
>>224030142Man I wish Kakashi was the main protag so bad. He's so cool and funny and based and awesome.
>>224050727Yes. He was better as a mysterious, ruthless villain
>>224038645>durr why didnt they just blast beams at each otherits tasteless cretins like you that make everything shit
>>224049813He could have skipped all of that and just had Nagato Rinne Tensei her back to life.
naruto went to shit after the final fight of the OG runeverything shippuden is trash
I like Boruto
>>224051140Did you even watch Part II?I can understand disliking the War arc and a lot of things about the whole thing but saying its all trash is just wrongFor example I watched Part II at 32 years old and thought it was entertaining for the most part. Arcs like Jiraiya infiltrating the rain village and fighting Pain kept me absolutely hooked
>>224051378Naruto is good until the Five Kage Summit arc.
>>224043303He's never at home and spend 90% of his time doing ninja cia stuff, he spend the 10% teaching Naruto's son instead of his own daughter
>>224030453Owari da...
>>224040783You do understand that it is an adaptation of the comic right?
>>224032670...kino
>>224043604>>224044609AAAAtoto keto no moMA DEMOOAAAkero ke tu deshooo
BORUTO IS NOT CANON KEK
