Why are British spy dramas so comfy?
>>224019536Normal people doing Police stuff with a MI5 mandate : Even spies can have stupid deductions and stupid ways to resolve problems or aggravate them.It looks realistic and funny : Even some good guys die or bad guys escape by pure chance.
They tend to have less deus ex machina and less preaching about friendship or gaslighting about how great their country is.
underrated
Britain was the communications hub of the world since the industrial revolution through WWII. Intelligence is the collection & analysis of data, which must itself flow through communications lines. They are naturals when it comes to this kind of thing as they have to play all sides, and all data flows (flewed) through them.
>>224021871Floughted
>>224019536Are the Slow Horses books worth reading before watching the show?
Does the UK even have any secrets to spy on?
>>224019536I hate this color grading
>>224021871Tinker Tailor was about how Britain is fucked up and useless though, penetrated by spies and moles and jobsworths and generally dysfunctional
>>224022102No one said it wasn't?
Uk doesnt even have enough power for data centre lol its a joke 4th world country full of larping losers. Mi5 mi6 are all gay faggots.
>>224022048they are worth reading after watching the show. And this is true in like 9/10 cases. It's almost always better to read books after watching a movie/show they are based on
>>224019536more mundane and less superheroalthough the action scenes were retarded and poorly done especially in the finale
>>224020767>Even spies can have stupid deductionsthe whole hook of the show is everyone stumbling, talking shit and failing their way through 5 episodes of desperate circumstance until it all comes together in the end to save the day in a way no one could have predicted, im not complaining, im entertained by the ruse too
>>224022102it's funny that portray the KGB as much more competent
>>224019536Slow horses is the opposite of comfy.Non stop yelling and swearing and trending politics disqualifies it from comfy status.
i turned off the first episode after it was “wanting to stop immigration is the REAL terrorism”did it ever change or is the show still woke
Started watching it a couple weeks ago. Very comfy indeed
>>224025539It literally ends up being an inside job by the UK government to improve Pakistani relations and every party involved ends up looking like retards.
>>224023996Planting and hunting moles is what the KGB were the best at and its not even close.
>>224019536>s1 woyt supremacists>s2 russians>s3 bmwf drama>s4 cia mr. Smith and his french minions>s5 woyt supremacists againI'm not bothering with s5, I stopped after the first episode.
>>224019536my grandma showed me this show. wholesome chung detectives defending the wholesome migranterinos from evil white chuds, just like every british show ever lmao
Even though I watched all 6 seasons, the shows seems to be phoning it in after season 3, which was the peak.Seasons 4 to 6 just seems to be a whole lot of nothing. I get that the pandemic fucked up some of the filming stuff, but I want them to get back into a really juicy plot again.
>>224019536I swear this is the only fag free media on all of apple. Hilarious its by far their biggest hit.
>>224027258Season 1 was the government you retard. We dont hate Russians enough! Yea Season 4 was a bit much and post colonialism 5 was awful.
>>224027258>bmwf dramamore like bitch tits nigger white female drama
>>22401953680% of the time its LeCarre.
how the fuck does this already have 6 seasons?
>>224026246this>>224023996The soviet union's forte was HUMINT; finding traitorous, disaffected "fellow travellers" that inevitably existed in the west. They couldn't compete with the US' technological reliance (crutch) so they attacked the weakest link: people.The UK was a weird middle ground but was still better at HUMINT.>>224021871The whole thing about English spies goes back centuries. What you say about comm hubs and london being the centre of empire etc., etc., is of course true, but I was surprised that the whole "pop culture" notion of gentlemanly english spies goes back to the 1600's. I thought it was a purely late 19th, 20th century phenomenon.I guess it makes sense: island nation, on the edge of the continent where all the action happens had to develop a competency in espionage otherwise it wouldn't have survived.
>>224021871>>224029090Opinions on the film?I rewatched the film recently and then found the entire miniseries on YT and rewatched that too. I've not yet read Smiley's People so I've always skipped that. I'd read the Tinker Tailor book maybe twice but that was at least 15 years ago.I liked some of it, disliked others. It's overly stylistic, but that was an intentional thing by the director. The miniseries is more "realistic" set-wise, and asking older relatives they all say that yes, 70's London looked like miniseries obviously and not the film, which is "70's london from the foggy recollection of a continental european's first visit to the city back in the day". OK, whatever.Turning Guillam gay was retarded since such an overt homo (as in, was living with a bf as per the film) would've been immediately fired from the circus since they'd have been too much of a liability as it made for perfect blackmail material. I've read that perhaps it was to help foreshadow Pridot's and Haydon's implied affair, but I dunno. I liked how during the Christmas party they sang the soviet national anthem; not in the source, not in the miniseries but it's totally the sort of thing the british intelligence service would've done for a laugh. I can't imagine that the CIA or the KGB ever did anything similar, humourless bastards that they all were. Personal point of detail I liked:On control's desk there is an Osmia fountain pen. A high grade German made pen from the 40's and 50's that obviously Control would've picked up because he was around there during and after the war. It's only on screen for a split second, and only a miniscule number of pen autists would've paused to look at it, but I appreciated the useless detail.
woke garbage
>>224029277its a professional operation run by serious kino making cunts
>>224019536British people are non-threatening due to all their testosterone producers getting killed in WWII.
>>224019536I'm dressing up as Jackson Lamb for Halloween. The hair, body and facial features were all spot on, but I needed to trim my hair considerably. Planning on greying it up some more, because I'm not as old as Oldman. The actual challenge is dirtying up my clothes in time for tomorrow. Tips for the best (recoverable) soil job?
>>224031120I mean look at this cunt. Sleeps in his clothes regularly. Washes rarely.
>>224023996during the cold war they were actually exceptional at it. these days not so much.
>>224029679i fucking love that movie and i'm tired of pretending i don't. it's a slow burn and that's a good thing. there is also the bbc series staring alec guiness.
>>224029277that's 36 episodes so 2 years worth
So why does Lamb cover for Diana? She's as retarded and corrupt as any MI5 Head Desk. Is it just because he knows he can walk circles around her and now she owes him? If it were anyone else he'd have her raked over coals for the shit she pulls, but for whatever reason he gives her a pass.
>>224023996It kinda was though. The Stasi and KGB were really good at moles and double agents.
>>224022076This. What information could people possibly want from a shithole like Britain? The recipe to faggots and water sandwiches?
>>224032295Yes, he knows he practically has a chokehold on the whole MI5. So as long as Diana is in charge the slow horses are untouchable, atleast by their own agency.
>>224020799I didnt think of that. Wow, its jarring when you call out just how bad US media is.
>>224032402>>224022076You get to spy on America by proxy.
if you guys want to watch more (literally) of Gary Oldman, you can see his penis in the Scarlet Letter movie he did with Demi Moore. he swims naked in a lake.
>>224019536Imagine watching this gay woke trash
>>224028273Too bad you NATO troons aren't willing to die in the meat grinder
>>224029277Gary Oldman is a fag for making this trash
>>224029277Season 7's already in post production and season 8's already filming.No idea how the production for this show is so rapid.
>>224032915I fear that the filming days might be pretty brutal even when they said in some interview that they got a good system going on which allows them to churn them out really fast
>>224019536Slow Horses isn't comfy. First episode, the young agents watch a video of patriotic Brits and condemn it. It's the usual leftist propaganda from Crapple TV.
>>224025539It's all a ruse. A lot of people turned it off for the same reason but would have actually enjoyed it had they kept watching long enough to see the reveal.
>>224019536Slow Horses is garbage and couldn't be further from comfy if it tried. It's too loud, aggressive, hectic etc to be comfy.Foyle's War, Endeavour, Poirot etc are comfy.
>>224035439Real? I might go back to watch it then
>>224022738The UK has the 5th largest economy in the world and is set to overtake Japan.
>>224035863yeah right Nigel. Keep dreaming you stinky inbred islandfaggot. you're completely owned by us at this point.
>>224035863>set to overtake JapanSo it deteriorates slower than Japan does
>>224032810obsessed turd worlder
>>224021871Not to mention that British Intelligence, the actual Anglo intelligence of those that need to be, is as quick witted and stealthy as a fox. Mi6 is deliberately understated and would never brag. It's simply not British.
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>>224035987This is an easily verifiable fact. Not sure why you're mad. >>224036016Having Draconian hate speech laws has nothing to do with economic growth or influence.
>>224022076>>224032402The UK connects Europe and the Americas through submarine internet cables.A little known joint-operation by the NSA and GCHQ/MI6 placed a tap on these cables over 10 years ago.
>>224019536Very low-stakes stuff
>>224029679ok but the miniseries was filmed in late 70s london?
>>224032835He was a fag long before this came out. All actors are. Yes, even that one you really admire for whatever reason. Especially that one.
>>224019536thats just a spy drama, British spy drama is some gay British shit with idris elba and random muzzos