What the fuck did I just watch
greatness
Lynch thinking he is smarter than he is
LYNCHED
>>224013560Something that quite literally doesn't matter for S3, only scene that's important is the deleted Phillip Jeffries scene from Missing Pieces
>>224013749just like you i guess
>>224013560>studio gives lynch money>he makes kino>dipshits whine forever that they can't understand art>studio gives lynch money....
A movie that could have been great if they cut the first 20 minutes
A good fucking movie. Laura's probably Lynch's best developed character. He had such a beautiful way to find humanity within absurdity. And absurdity within humanity, of course.>>224016048What've you got against Agent Desmond and Agent Stanley?
>>224013560Beautiful Princess Disorder on the silver screen
>>224016290>What've you got against Agent DesmondHe has his own emmo.
>>224013749You got Lynched. Watch the movie again. It's like the inverse of Twin Peaks. The first half with Chris Issac is like a "bad" version of Agent Cooper's experience. He is stuck with a bumbling partner, LE isn't friendly or helpful in his investigation, the town is ugly, the people in the diner are repellant and unhelpful, and he disappears. The second half of the movie is representing the dark ugly reality of the situation and events that led up to Twin Peaks. It's super dark, but then again ultimately Twin Peaks is about a teenage girl in crisis who's in way over her head in a sordid world of drugs and prostitution and being raped by her father. It's as dark as that kind of story should be, not the goofy wacky light tone of the show at all.
>>224016631Good analysis. Thoughts on Mullholland Drive?
>>224016631You could tell the show had to write around some of the darker aspects of the story. They never once actually use the word "brothel" when they refer to One Eyed Jack's. They leave out the fact that Leland was to some extent aware and complicit with what he did to Laura. They also really pussyfoot around the implication that Leland himself was molested as a child and that's how Bob came to possess him.
>>224016670It's about Hollywood and how it works. How women are treated, or mistreated. Note the bimbo woman walking with the killer guys. Is that a version of Betty? Or representative of the property women become in Hollywood? Like how Rita essentially becomes property of the director. Jealousy is a big part of the movie. The first half is a dream reimagining of Betty's experiences in Hollywood, mixed with her own denial of her culpability to a murder.
>>224016770I'll add: the first half is what Betty reasons out in her mind of how Hollywood works, according to her experience. She fills in gaps of understanding with figures dictating behind the scenes what occurs, menacing elements like the man in the cowboy hat, the director suddenly being cut off of all monies, just her rationalizing events in her dream because she doesn't understand or like the reality that her lesbian lover left her for a director, or that she hired someone to kill Rita out of anger and jealousy.
>>224013749lynched
>>224016863Thanks, I watched it earlier this year and my mind was preoccupied with it for a few days there. I found the elderly couple laughing in the taxi to be so menacing, like they knew she was a pure soul going there all starry eyed and would be torn apart by the realities of Pedowood.
>>224016969I read a good analysis somewhere that suggested the old couple essentially represent the furies from Greek mythology. Obviously there’s no way Lynch intended them as such, but I think it’s a neat way to frame the film as an elevated tragedy
>>224017006>Obviously there’s no way Lynch intended them as suchWhy would you think that? Lynch was heavily influenced by the ancient world and the classics. Fellini's Satyticon was a major influence on his surreal style, he even lifted directly from that movie for the surreal elements of Twin Peaks.
I loved the original show, then started watching The Return before I learned a movie existed so I figured I'd watch that then finish the Return. I disliked the movie enough it completely killed my interest in the entire series so I never actually Returned and finished it.
>>224017146Some may say that was the point of the movie, to confront you with the dark reality of Laura Palmer's last week on earth and the torment she was in. It's one thing to watch a goofy, quirky show on TV that casually handwaves away the awful circumstances of a teenage girl's death that's the plot engine of a show where the aw shucks quirky chungus FBI agent delights over coffee and cherry pie, and another where said teenage girl is depicted spiraling out of control from drugs and trauma. Almost as if Lynch had something to say. Watch the opening shot during the credits again. You see a TV being smashed and a woman's scream. Almost like Lynch was saying something there, hmm?
>>224017065Because Lynch doesn’t operate at the level of conscious influences or references, at least according to him. I think these are things the viewer can tease out of his work for themselves, but what makes Lynch such a brilliant director is that he fishes the depths of the collective unconscious for material without ever knowing what he’s actually reeling up to the surface. Sometimes it’s pretty clear where an element has been taken from or inspired by, but as far as I can tell it’s not intentional, it’s just whatever he happens to be channelling at a given moment.
>>224013749>Filmmaker Quentin Tarantino, who was also in attendance, said in a 1992 interview, "After I saw Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me at Cannes, David Lynch had disappeared so far up his own ass that I have no desire to see another David Lynch movie until I hear something different. And you know, I loved him. I loved him."based quentin
>>224013560FwwM>S3>S2 Finale>S1>S2
>>224018583FWWM is the least incomprehensible Lynch movie (bar Dune) precisely because you have hours of backstory that give context even to the weirdest scenes. Tarantino is just stupid.
>>224016631thanks for this analysis anon. on first watch I found the Teresa Banks investigation part a bit derivative and unnecessary but I get it now.
>>224016631>>224016685the movie starting with a TV set being crushed is really symbolic. Lynch did Twin Peaks "uncensored" and "unleashed". same with the movie actually showing the streets of the city and having scenes on the exterior of the iconic sets, when the show only had the soap opera standard of stock shots and studios.
I was gonna watch Comaland tonight but I started drinking instead and I'm probably gonna be blackout in a few hours
>>224018583>And you know, I loved him. I loved him.Lynch reducing one of the most critically acclaimed directors to plaintive cries? What an absolute chad
>>224021367Call for help
>>224020523What about The Elephant Man?
>>224013560It’s disturbing rewatching this and realizing that no one ever asks Laura if she needs help, despite her crying all the time and quite clearly avoiding home and her family. Unironically the Log Lady gives her the closest thing to help in the movie. I know it’s 1989 and mental health is non-existent but everyone is either too jealous of her looks, creeped out by her reputation, or treats her as a sex object. Or just the more boring but true explanation that people normally just don’t want to get involved. Lynch lived in Philly after all, where everyone minds their own business. Somehow that stood out this time was the scene with Doc Haywood doing magic tricks where Laura calls home. I got this implication that he suspected something was not right at their house. Notice how quickly the town stopped talking about Laura when they found out what really happened. It’s definitely a quirk of the soap opera format, but it works on a social level too. Once people discovered her dad was raping her and murdered her in the end, suddenly it implicates her entire social sphere. It’s easier to rationalize that Leland suddenly went crazy and no one could ever see that coming, versus we all ignored the warning signs that were there plain as day. In the last week before she died, Laura is constantly running around and having meltdowns in public. They really took Bobby’s speech at the funeral and ran with it
>>224021483jade gives 2 rides
>>224021856People have their own problems
>>224021856This is very much the point. So much of twin peaks is about complacency and complicity: her family and friends, the audience and network demanding a second season… she finally finds respite at the end of FWWM, only for Cooper to go to such lengths to save her from her fate in S3 that he puts her through even more pain and suffering in an alternate timeline. We’re all just evil fucking entities living in the airwaves man, hungry for her garmonbozia. I think Lynch knew this, and everytime he returned to twin peaks it’s because he wanted to show everyone just how fucked up it is how much pleasure we take from putting this poor girl through the ringer, over and over, where not even death can save her…
>>224013560Go watch the Twin Peaks episode of Psych to better understand
>>224013749based anon telling the truth
>>224013560Now watch the 90 minutes of deleted scenes.
>>224013560Proto-A24 slop
>>224024503I WANTED A TWO BY FOUR
>>224024986two by fours arent actually two by fours, they're one and a half inches by three and a half inches
>>224013749Elaborate on that
>>224021856sigmund freud ova ere
>>224024503I did, right after I finished the movie. And i'm about to watch S3 later today, what am I in for?
>>224013560They solved the killing in the show pilot. It was a bum living under the hospital.
>>224025156Initial frustration at the pacing, the lack of familiar characters and musical themes, the fact that it’s shot on digital…Basically, lots of creative decisions that seem really irritating at first. But push on and you’ll be rewarded with one of the most unique TV experiences ever. There really is nothing else like it, even considering how innovative the original show was back in the 90s.
>>224013560I’m convinced this is the greatest performance by an actress ever
>>224021367She is so fucking gorgeous it’s crazy she was so awesome in Return why doesn’t Hollywood put her in more shit
>>224025156supreme kino perhaps the greatest kino ever
>>224025952Because there were carsEVERYWHERE
>>224025845Unironically this, the movie really sticks with you after watching it and it's primarily because of how powerful and natural her performance is.
>>224025814Thanks, this might sound autistic as shit but I plan on reading the old /tpg/ threads from 2017 as the episodes were coming out so I can be apart of what everyone was feeling at the time
Bobby killed a guy
>>224026218He listened and learned from the experience and became a better man for it
>>224015687That being said i find it incredible that big Hollywood studio execs gave money to Lynch and trusted him when they probably didn't understand that first thing about what he was producing. It's kind of a miracle if you think about it
>>224026184Nah man, I get it. /tpg/ was the highlight of this board while the show was on air. Shame it couldn’t keep the momentum up, though I guess it has been almost 10 years…
>>224026238It was an absolutely retarded financial decision, especially since it was almost certainly gonna lose them money and Lynch demanded twice as many episodes as originally planned. Whatever you think about The Return, it really is one hell of a gift to leave us with 18 hours of unfiltered lynchkino before he died.
>>224013560Also watch The Missing Pieces.
comaland was so kino, i dont know why they didnt just make it
>>224013749I think you're projecting anon
