>>224009242
That pic you posted is literally a "Mormon military fort" conplete with perimeter fence and gun turrets.

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>>224010860
The Mormons did not believe the planet was even inhabited and the Federation actually warned them not to colonize it as it was in Arachnid space. The bugs decided to launch an asteroid at Buenos Aires over this even though the Mormons were an independent group unaffiliated with the Federation.

>>224010860
Please circle one gun turret.

>>224011745
Buenos Aires was an inside job

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>>224012656

This is making me wanna play Starship Troopers Extermination again.

>>224012856
That's not a gun turret.

>>224012964
Then wtf is it?

>>224012973
Not a gun turret.

>>224012897
Makes me want to play the Starship Troopers map on the original Starcraft

>>224012993
Then wtf isn't it?

Why did they give ineffective weapons to infantry?
Was it to show they were as expendable as the bugs?

>>224009242
The thing I don't get about this is how the surrounding landscape is just barren rock. No vegetation, no water sources, no ruined farms nearby, no designated landing area for ship, or trails leading out of the compound.

>>224013446
The movie has schizo tech levels, they have FTL spaceships but the soldiers just fight with regular ballistic rifles and the battles are written like WW2 battles but in space but that's just how most sci-fi is written because actual space combat would be difficult to comprehend.

>>224013446
In the book the soldiers all wear mecha suits and they mainly fight using explosives like grenade and rocket launchers

So the smart bug had the other big shooter bugs shoot a meteorite that would travel to Earth and blow up a specific city?

>>224012993
This retard got BTFO

>>224013693
The Federation in the movie is incredibly retarded, like more retarded than star wars by magnitudes. They lose an entire fleet in every single engagement.

The ships are in outer space. They bunch them together instead of keeping them far apart. And no one ever corrects this even after theyre repeatedly taken out by bug artillery that is literally just big bugs that fart blue rocks at them. There is no way the bugs should ever score a single hit on any ship. Even if the bugs can somehow fart rocks at the speed of fucking light, there is no reason not to encircle the planet from every conceivable angle and keep the fleet ships extremely far from each other.

>>224010860
>settlement has standard defensive measures for emergencies
Yes? And? Apparently they should have gone much, much harder core on those defenses considering what happened to them and the needless hostility and brutality of the alien race that ultimately attacked & destroyed them.

>>224013446
Something about war not being a byproduct of circumstances with a goal that will conclude it and instead war being a goal in and of itself in order to serve as a tool of social motivation and control by the elites, which they secretly don't even want to """win""" but rather want to perpetuate and keep going indefinitely.
Orwell talked about this kind of agenda becoming a reality in the Modern Era in "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism", the book-within-a-book featured in Nineteen Eighty-Four.

>>224012656
There're t2o gun turrents in each toward

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>>224009242
why do so many sci fi think mormonism will last into the future? it's easily the most pants on head retarded mainstream "religion" and is hemorrhaging members so fast they literally had to write racism out of their official doctrine in a desperate effort to import third worlders. is it a joke?

>>224011745
How did verhoeven get away with making non-horror movies this gory?

>>224013693
Small arm lasers would be a huge pain in the ass for many logistical reasons

>>224014172
Name 5 sci fi where mormonism lasts into the future

>>224014330
I'll name 7

>>224009242
Entering someone else's country is the greatest crime you can commit and war is an acceptable answer to that.

>>224011745
>The bugs decided to launch an asteroid at Buenos Aires over this even though the Mormons were an independent group unaffiliated with the Federation.

I don't remember if the movie explains it, but the book definitely does: the bugs literally do not comprehend individualism as a concept at all. They see all of humanity as one big organism, and they themselves are one big organism. There is no "independent group", if a single human touches their shit, all humans did as far as they're concerned.

>>224009242
why they have supports outside the building?

>>224009242
>>224009242
>>224009242
Bug planet

Perfect place to setup base of operations

>>224014172
>2000 11,068,861
>2025 17,887,212
They aren't disappearing in a hurry.

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>>224011745
There's ramparts along the walls

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>>224015762 >>224025078

>Fascism is when there is full racial and gender equality
What did Verhoeven mean by this?

>>224015715
Dont tell foids that feminism was invented to double the labor and eventually double the meat shield (army) of the elites

>>224012809
>it was actually 5 marines that picked up an asteroid and threw it at Buenos Aires
You sound retarded

The Roughneck Chronicles is criminally underrated

The mormons were killed by the feddies because they were effectivly secceeding. It was supposed to be the false flag to start the bug war but public opinion didn't give a shit so neil patrick harris's spooks redirected the astroid to strike BA. It's all to get rid of excess population and to trial new military hardware

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Hey, neighbors! We're about to do a play on how smoking pot destroys your life. *gets eviscerated*

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>>224009242
Earth is a hostile planet. If there are other technologically-advanced planets out there that decide to deal with Earth, they would know that the only way to do that is to annihilate the humans and give the planet a fresh start with a better class of occupants.

tl;dr - humans don't deserve this fine planet.

>>224017058
>the only way to do that is to annihilate the jews and give the planet a fresh start
ftfy

The arachnids did nothing wrong

>>224010860
>settle on the frontier
>don't bother to defend yourself against hostile wildlife
They were more worried about space bears.

>>224015528
>plenty of other planets in the galaxy
>choose to land on an ugly planet
>act surprised when ugly planet turns out to be a bug planet
What did they expect was going to happen?

>DUDE THE BOOK IS SO PRO-FASCISM NO WONDER VERHOEVEN READ 2 PAGES OF IT AND HATED IT
meanwhile in the book it explains why you need to go to the army to get citizenship in clear and understandable words, anyone at any age can join and you don't even have to fire a single bullet or even see a gun in your two years
if anything, the book's philosophy could be described as "virtuous militarism"
>b-b-but it's unrealistic...
yeah, it's a sci-fi novel

>>224017091
>>>/lgbt/

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>>224017141
They expected that they would come in and kick ass. After a rough start, that is exactly what they did.

They came
They saw
They KICKED ASS

>>224017181
When will the film version of "The Great Space Fuck" come out? Kilgore Trout is the GOAT writer of all time.

>>224009242
I've been saying this
why did the bugs kill the dreamer mormon migrants instead of giving them food, shelter, healthcare and voting rights???
are they nazi bugs?

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>>224015762
They're starting to figure it out on their own.

>>224017181
It also goes out of its way to mention that most people consider citizenship completely irrelevant because all it does is allow you to vote (and only after you've been discharged), to the point that military enrollment is entirely voluntary and the military goes out of their way to try and discourage it because they only want people who are genuinely willing to sacrifice themselves to protect their way of life.

>>224016118
9/11 situation they knew it was coming but did nothing to stop it. Don't ask why there are no bug corpses at the impact site.

>>224012995
Mein neger!

>>224011745
What the fuck is this shit?!

>>224009242
What do they eat?

>>224018038
they had food rations in those sealed containers also rocks

>>224018038
Dead niggers.

>>224018038
fish and bread

>>224018068
Where's the dead nigger storage?

>>224015696
>They aren't disappearing in a hurry.
Of course not, that anon is a jeet that hates white people and lies a lot

>>224013693
It's satire you media illiterate fool. The point is to show that humans and bugs are no different. Bugs have brainbugs that mindcontrol swarms of warrior bugs to do meatwave rushes. Humans have fascist military leaders who brainwash swarms of soldiers to do meatwave rushes. No one seems to care millions are dead.

>>224018038
They eat da bugz

>>224013913
>So the smart bug had the other big shooter bugs shoot a meteorite that would travel to Earth and blow up a specific city?
No, that was a psyop to get the rest of humanity on board with the war. "It could have been YOUR home city!"

>>224011745
"Port" Joe Smith
Really, AI?

>>224019334
People know that. This is a routine poltard thread to try and normalize fascism.

>>224013558
Just like Utah.

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>>224013989
You're not wrong but that's mostly Paul Verhoeven being a retard about anything related to space.

>>224014330
>Starship Troopers
>The Expanse
>The Book of Mormon
Ok, I'm out.

>>224018783
Globally, the majority of Mormons are non-white. In the US, they're losing members, especially men, rapidly. Pacific yellow-brown is the future of the LDS Church.

>>224020832
The Expanse was correct that only such a religious order could have the necessary faith and cohesion to endure a generational voyage to another star

>>224013989
The bugs hitting a spaceship with blind spam is dumb, but the ships are doing a mass landing and retrieval op, so it makes sense they'd be vulnerable. The book Klendathu also has Rico's ship straight up crash into another one instead of getting shot down because somebody fucked up traffic control over the drop zone.

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>>224024926

Carmen was a ho

>>224014172
>it's easily the most pants on head retarded mainstream "religion"
that's the point. if something that stupid can survive, it's a stronger statement about how irrational belief will follow us into the future.

>>224013889

The Mobile Infantry also carries flame throwers and beam knives, both ofnwhich were used in the first chapter of the book.

>>224022128
I could swear the ships crashing into each other is in the actual film unless I'm thinking of a different movie.

>>224015696
how many of those are white?

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>>224009242
why are mormons like this?

>>224023364
Yeah, that was obvious when as soon as they graduated she dumped Rico to jump on her flight instructor's cock. At least Dizzy was loyal and only wanted Rico.

>>224024734
An innate desire to spin the drum

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>>224023976
it is, but it happens in the movie because of bugs shooting at them. in the book the federation is full of incompetent goons that get plenty of people killed, even among the rank and file. they take anyone, and anyone signs up so they get citizen rights, and most are clearly unfit to serve because they're mentally or physically disabled.
Rico, despite being a 5'5 malnourished filipino, is one of the most physically fit grunts in the book. the federation is a pile of shit

>>224015715
The state can make use of every single citizen, citizens not devoted to the state are a waste to fascists states.
So a woman that prioritizes her family is not prioritizing the state, a woman that works to help her family is one that is not using that labor for the state, person that has loyalty to a god or family is one that is not necessarily having loyalty to the state.
Hell, if anything a society where everybody has to contribute to the head is more like an insect hive like the arachnids.
It seems clear that Verhooven intentionally added that super strong fascist angle to mirror the arachnid structure, the soldiers being no more than disposable drones for the state just like the bugs.

>>224025078
This makes no sense, historically fascist states wanted women to stay at home and have tons of kids. Putting women in frontline combatant roles would be completely insane to an actual fascist.

>>224009242
That seems like an incredibly shitty location to put a base. There obstructions in literally every single direction that looks less than 100 metres away. Those towers literally wouldn't be able to see shit. What the fuck were they thinking when they storyboarded this?

>>224024926
Never quite understood how he was a flight instructor when he was still playing high school ball with the rest of them. We see him in uniform at "the dance" so maybe he was in something like ROTC while still in high school? The timeline for him being in high school (at a different school) at the same time as the other lead characters but being her flight instructor doesn't make sense to me.

>>224025577
That's not how countries get power today, it's economic power before military but balanced with just enough people to keep it going.
Post industrialized nations do not need that many people as before, if a large amount was needed they would go that route but since it does not serve them like it used to they push less children, so women are freed up with time and the state wants that vital force going to them above else, not their local communities, family nor religions.
They want children birthed but only for the purpose of serving the state, then the mother returns to work, the children are pawned off to the state run schools as early as possible, where they are taught how to be better servants of the state, moralized by the state, not to question the state, so they can be made in the image of the state and definitely not the parents and not god or anything that can create an independent sense of self separate from the state.

>>224012856
Not all turrets are gun turrets
Those are spotlights on a turret

>>224026190
They vill eat da bugz for lunch

>>224010860
they had these in mexico, i dont know if they still do or not

>>224012995
awww yeah

>>224025040
>Rico, despite being a 5'5 malnourished filipino
Where is that in the book?

>>224025758
>so maybe he was in something like ROTC
that makes sense considering he already knew he was going to be a pilot

>>224025884
Atleast one poster brough his brain with him today.

>>224010860
>>224014668
>I don't remember if the movie explains it, but the book definitely does: the bugs literally do not comprehend individualism as a concept at all. They see all of humanity as one big organism, and they themselves are one big organism. There is no "independent group", if a single human touches their shit, all humans did as far as they're concerned.
So the bugs are...you know?

>>224009242
i like how the base is like an RTS base you plop down as a prebuilt module on the battlefield