After watching the movie, I believe she's just a neurodivergent girl who said some things in an awkward and confusing manner and got crucified for it.
No shit. Jews are that evil.
You think you watched a movie?
>>224008368>neurodivergentback in my day we called it being retarded
Nobody cares about this shit movie
You fell for the larp, great job retard.
>>224008368Why did critics and reddit hype this as the greatest documentary of all time? It was a total nothingburger
>>224008368If only it were that shrimple. also you clearly didn’t watch the movie but on the off-chance you did and actually legitimately had this takeaway, holy fucking retardation dude
>>224008446>t. autismThe movie was a fucking rollercoaster, you just have to be able to read people’s body language and be able to even begin to approach unraveling the narrative in terms of how sincere anyone is being at any given time. The documentary is first and foremost about manipulation and deception.
>>224008393>>224008406>>224008419>>224008423>HURR DURR WE ACKSHULLY WERE ON THE PUSSY BLASTED FOIDS SIDE ALL ALONG>LE HECKING 4D CHESS YA"LL
>>224008368his mistake was he didn't catch it at the start
I thought the film was creative. I was never bored, and it has left me actively thinking about different aspects of human nature and psychology since I watched it a week ago. The characters (other than Nathan) behave very strangely in their own ways, and it leaves you guessing about their intentions and motivations. 8/10
>>224008368Bet you thought her husband was straight too lol
>>224008446A lot of hype and people wanting to be part of the next big thing. Midwits were excited to tell their friends how they will never see documentaries the same way again, but next month they'll likely be glazing the newest "Making a Murderer" type shit.>>224008545Wow, so deep. It's about manipulation and deception, first and foremost, everyone. In case you weren't paying attention. This movie was a roller coaster ride for gullible retards.
>>224008640Also, Nathan is clearly strange, but that's his whole schtick. You wonder if he is the one acting, or if they are; if he is telling the truth or not, etc. It's a very subtle mind-bender. The least sensational narrative structure possible which nonetheless leaves quite an impression.
>>224008446I still haven't finished it, such a bore. Only interesting thing about it is discovering rich people live in barns.
>>224008368we let white ladies get away with everything
>>224008663It’s not for you, that’s fine. You don’t have to let it get to you like that, a lot of people really like it for what it is.
>>224008705I bet your teeth are chattering with excitement for Avengers 69 though :/
>>224008728A lot of people like bad movies. News at 11.>>224008703>subtle
>>224008419no op's rightit's called being an aquarius and you're all retarded
>>224008368You are a retard or trolling.
>the two anons who pretend the documentary was bad because it's popularPeak dimwits.
>>224008753You can identify the midwit by his hoarse, distinctive cry, "I bet you like the Marvel movies!">>224008828>Holmes was... le lying?
>>224008887Am I wrong?
>>224008368I'm sick of this image.
>>224008907>You mean to tell me that Holmes, a convicted fraud, was le lying?
>>224008887So you didn't understand the documentary and are seeking attention.
>>224009537>You didn't understand it!t.every midwit who loves this movie. The movie's not that complicated.
>>224009604Thank you for confirming my assumption.
>>224009700Did it really though? What's the real truth? If you truly understand You Can See Everything, you'd know that you can't see anything, and you'll never know what's really true.
>>224009700>>224009604>>224009537>>224008887these are the kind of replies that will overrun 4chan even more than already once reddit goes login only
OP is a master troll
>>224009799I'd say this is a reddit movie, but doesn't it even matter anymore?
>>224009836too many people that were teens grew up with rageb8 because that was the best way to monetize videos and now they are becoming adults and they communicate like socially needy faggots
>>224009799>>224009836>everything is ledditTiresome.
nathan is friends with the jew that directed prime time therefore I will not see this movie
>>224009894read this as many times as you need >>224009891
>>224008482>swimming with autism: the 4chan story
>>224009894This. Most people who say that these days very clearly have no fucking clue what it even means.
>>224009891yeah this guy >>224009604sucks
Does anyone actually have to say anything about this movie, or is it really just a nothing burger that's been hyped up by trend chasers?
>>224009914you're no sherlock holmes, but very cute attempt at analysis
>>224009980>>224009914
>>224009996Wow, this movie's creating geniuses, an army of Nathan Fielders all with their incisive commentary on the nature of our reality.
>>224008368> I believe she's just a neurodivergent girl who said some things in an awkward and confusing mannerThat's not even a girl.That's not even human!That's a fucking skin walker!How does no one fucking see that??? Is everyone's uncanny valley response just fried? It's a fucking suit!
>>224009996I'm sorry but you've missed the mark
>>224010055Way more mind blowing than anything in this snoozefest of a "documentary"
this movie is an actual IQ test holy fuckthe amount of people who can see through like, one fucking layer, is shocking. zero media literacyits fine to not like it, but so many people seem to not understand what they just watched
>>224008775It’s okay, bud. You can relax now.
>>224010118It is an IQ test, but you're in the middle of the bell curve. Also, there are plenty of people who love the film who also don't get it.
>>224010194how can you love it and not get it?
>>224010194>when youre at getting ass cancer age
>>224008368>I just accidentally became the CEO of a multi billion dollar scam company! Whoopsie! Haha I'm such a ditz lol
>>224010213kinda like jesus, loving him but not understanding why he died for our sins when we did nothing wrong in the first place and it was the fault of jews like nathan
>>224010213The film becomes a Rorschach for anyone too dumb to understand it, so it shouldn't be too hard to imagine how.
>>224010291>can you identify why this shot is interesting?UHHH YEAH SHE UH IS UH HOLDING HER BABY AND UH SHE LOOKS UH SAD>there are people reading this right now that have zero film literacy and dont get why its a good shot. >those same people dont think this is a good movie
>>224008368She genuinely looks like a cartoon character. That face is insane.
>>224010118>this movie is an actual IQ test holy fuckIt's really not. It's a couple of narcissists pretending to be innocent and retarded. It just seems deep because you think they must real people with real beliefs and motives deep down, but they're not. They're husks that change who they are in any given moment to match whatever they think will benefit them. If you're searching for patterns in their behavior in an attempt to understand them you've simply never had to deal with a narcissist IRL.
>>224010358and youre trying to convince me that isnt interesting? lmao shut the fuck up loser
>>224008368
>>224010345Is this post supposed to be ironic? This shot is really heavy handed and obvious, not to mention a cliche.>>224010358Bingo.
>>224010433bainlet spotted
>>224010447>bainletYikes. Anyone else want to try being condescending?
>>224008368>paying to watch some fucking documentary when you could've just gone on wikipedia and read about it for free
>>224010374I think it's well done. I just don't think it's a deep cerebral film. If you've delt with narcissists you come to understand that trying to "figure them out" is one of the many ways they steal your time and energy. If you find it super deep you just haven't come to this understanding imo
>>224010503imagine watching this and somehow making it about your own, boring, shit life lmao
>>224008446it's directed by reddit man
>>224010484Dude, you spoiled the movie for yourself. If you go into this movie knowing the lady was convicted for fraud, then you won't be surprised when you find out she's... le lying
holmes is an mk ultra victim that is controlled by satanists.why did her father mention "everything changed after she was raped" then it was never brought up again?
>>224010259we're talking about a real film not mythology
>>224010530I wonder how much power Billy had over the production, as he shuts down a number of things that would have actually been interesting, and Fielder doesn't protest too much.>>224010548>he thinks it's a real film>>224010519If you get through life without dealing with narcissists, you should try walking on water.
>>224010617>If you get through life without dealing with narcissists, you should try walking on water.thats exactly the point you dork. you arent special. well you are special, but not in that way
>>224010644I don't think you understood my point. Little wonder this film appealed so much to you.
>>224010671>ohh boo hooo i had to deal with a narcissist dad and ex so this movie was exhausting>all i could do was put myself in nathan's shoes and it was like i was getting manipulated all over again!!>if you arent a SURVIVOR with EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE, then MAYBE your feeble mind can enjoy this STUPID DUMB MOVIE!!
>>224010717Again, you didn't understand my point. Moving on.
>>224010747that was your point. i just made it explicit for you instead of tiptoeing around with with some weird, misplaced sense of superiority
>>224008368I already know the story , and is not going to be candid in anyway. I would rather have some hard hitting questions of the retarded investors and the media and all of reddit who blindly championed her with out question for so long >>I am a woman and I have a Box >We Know , now have a billion dollars !!
>>224010800>is not going to be candid in anywayTHAT IS THE POINT> I would rather have some hard hitting questions of the retarded investors and the mediaTHAT IS NOT THE POINT
>>224008368She's a psychopathic kike.
>>224010791No, it wasn't. You didn't understand my post, and I'd be surprised if you even understood this film (even though it's not that complex).
The doc isn't for the autistic who can't read facial expressions or body language. Hence you get this thread.
>>224010863Lol, I wonder who you're referring to exactly. Not being able to read facial expression and body language would make you more pliable to the filmmakers in this case.
>>224010855yes yes you were uninterested in diving into the story because of your own baggage with manipulators and it triggered you. that doesn't make your opinion right. it doesnt make the film only appealing to the .001% of people that have never dealt with a narcissist. again, absolutely room temp take. youre a boring asshole who can barely scratch the surface of the film
>>224010291lol horseshit. But you know what? I could forgive all of the faults of this movie, the crappy production values, the bad dialogue, all of it, if it weren't such a bore!
>>224010934You're confusing me with the other guy. I just said that if you get through your life without dealing with narcissists, you should try walking on water. You schizo retard.
>>224011036ok well you "and the other guy" type with the exact same voice and are saying the same thing
>>224011052Anyway, this movie isn't that good. And it's not that deep. Have a better one.
>brings emotional baggage to a movie>triggered and ruins the film for xhem>fake sincerity after getting btfo "have a better one"zoom zooms are so fucking pathetic lmao
>>224011159If you love this film so much, fake sincerity shouldn't be such a problem for you. And if you're not a zoomer, you must be a NEET being that you have had no experiences dealing with narcissists. Get out of your gooncave and interact with irl people sometime.
>>224011183what if i'm not a zoomer or a neet and ive dealt with scawy narcissists?what if i can enjoy a movie for its artistry?
>>224011250Nobody's stopping you. But as art this is mid as fuck.
>>224010863that's why it triggers some anons who will never understand the appeal of it
>>224011403If you could read faces you'd know Holmes was lying from the beginning. Instead, that came as a huge revelation to you.
>>224011283the things they were able to do with 2 cameras, one light, and no planned direction for the documentary is nothing short of art. sorry but you are uneducated and dull.im sorry that your personal baggage wont allow you to enjoy it
If you came away from the movie thinking Billy was the "bad guy" you got bamboozled. Meta kino.
>>224011448anon... c'mon you aren't this dense. everyone understood who she was before watching the movie. that isn't the point.
>>224008599
>>224011479he is a bad guyhes just a rich idiot that she is using. hes easy for her to control
>>224011496Everyone didn't understand. And apparently the filmmakers were slow to figure it out themselves, if you believe them. And while that itself might not be the point, the point is sort of predicated on the ambiguity.>>224011467>uneducated and dullPowerful defense. The midwits really have us beat this time.
>>224011673>Everyone didn't understand.ok anon.
>>224011687You don't have to look far to find user reviews that found Holmes to be sympathetic, possibly innocent (!), or downplaying her crimes as just scamming some rich dudes. I saw it here today on this board.
One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. You retards know that she's pretending to be autistic to make you feel bad right? You're not supposed to listen to the closeted coke addict husband.
>>224011883Why does it take so long for the filmmakers to realize this?
>>224008446Is it really just that lots of people didn't see the second meta level in documentaries before?
>>224011914It doesn't.
>>224011730she does paint a sympathetic character, thats part of the intrigue of the film. whether its fake or not is part of the fun.
>>224011914Nathan is playing a character, he's in on it the whole time.
>>224011961Yup.>>224011985Nope.>>224011963Pretty sure the whole idea that Billy is an abuser and Holmes is his victim is introduced like an hour into the film, by which point I had long ruled that out as false. >>224012027They spend most of the film agonizing over every small interaction trying to figure out if they're being deceived or not. That's like most of the film. Doesn't matter if Fielder is playing a part - if he's playing dumb, then so is the film. Why is this not tedious for me, the viewer?
>>224008446To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand You Can See Everything. The documentary is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of biotech startup culture, most of the nuances will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Elizabeth Holmes' nihilistic worldview, which is deftly woven into her characterisation – her personal philosophy draws heavily from Steve Jobs, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of her deception, to realise that it's not just fraud – it says something profound about the human condition. As a consequence, people who dislike Elizabeth Holmes truly ARE idiots – of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in her existential catchphrase "fake it till you make it", which itself is a cryptic reference to the collapse of Silicon Valley's moral framework. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Elizabeth Holmes' genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them.And yes, by the way, I DO have a Theranos tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the investors' eyes only – and even they wouldn't understand its significance.
>>224012126You're insufferable
>>224012197your mom exde
>>224012197A fan of Nathan Fielder finds me insufferable. Judgement has been cast.
>>224010447Bain?
>>224012257Aye
>>224012126>They spend most of the film agonizing over every small interaction trying to figure out if they're being deceived or not. That's like most of the film. Anon.. they do that to make the audience feel that way. Thats the point. You're supposed to realize that after thinking about the movie and what its centered around.
>>224012242You dont know anything about me but I've read your mass reply posts seething about this film and its annoying.
>>224012271>Anon.. they do that to make the audience feel that way. Thats the point.It's tedious on purpose?>You're supposed to realize that after thinking about the movie and what its centered around.That the movie is tedious, and that the question of what is really true or knowable is... tedious? Even though what's true seems rather straight forward.
>>224008368The fucking Kotick face. Why is it so universal.
>>224011985>whether its fake or not is part of the fun.It's pretty clear she's lying though. Like it's presented in such an absurd way I don't understand how anyone could think Nathan and Oppenheimer want you to be conflicted about it. If anything it's more a test to see if they could get a single genuine expression from a couple of sociopaths.
>>224012330Corporatism promotes psychopathy
>>224012505Then why do they spend the movie debating on whether she's actually being deceptive or not? If they're playing dumb, why does Fielder say that the film just reflected their responses and arguments after filming?
>>224008368>>224010400
>>224012505lying about what
>>224012126you really have a hard time grasping this movie
>>224012610>playing dumbIsn't that Fielder's schtick? They invited him into their home ostensibly to tell their side of the story to someone who is neutral. He had to navigate this dynamic just like he does in his skits.
>>224012677Apparently. Either that or its proponents have a really hard time articulating what they found compelling about it. So far I've gotten a whole lot of evasive non-sense... sort of like the movie.>>224012708So Fielder is playing dumb and he knows Holmes is being deceptive, and yet still spends most of the film debating on whether or not she's being deceptive? Okay. What did this accomplish for you?
>>224012708his thing he enjoys seems to be earnestly investigating unique personalities. which is what this is. i dont think he played dumb. i think a lot of dumb people just came into the movie understanding her crimes defaulting to "well she's a liar so shes lying". im not even sure the people who say that over and over watched the movie. Lied about what? To what end?
>>224012731anon if you say you're trolling I'll say great work you got all us
>>224012753>i think a lot of dumb people just came into the movie understanding her crimes defaulting to "well she's a liar so shes lying"Those dumb people... were right.
>>224012806Projection? You're the next Nathan Fielder.
>>224012820cool cool dont watch a movie then. like any movie at all
>>224012845>I have to dumb myself down to enjoy a documentaryMaybe the film could just be better next time? I shouldn't need a lobotomy just to like a movie.
Has anybody read more of the writings where she deceives the investors? I haven't myself but my feeling is that if you read them, it will disprove the "le autism/spectrum" explanation he comes away with, and has some amount of doubt in her actions. Like I get the Who's on first? scene is meant to show how she is misconstruing words and the overall direction a sentence can lead people into wrong conclusions in one singular example, but it perhaps could have had Nathan test her more with different sentences or ideas than just that one example. It is baffling, her change in demeanor regarding her depiction on social media and that one picture, but methinks that the whole time the husband and her knew about Nathan and manipulated him but as it got harder over time to add layers of deception, they gave up and that's why there was that change. It was a new tactic to salvage what they could of their image.
>>224008368>>224010055>>224010400>>224012662Cheese to meet you
>>224008368Hate her face
>>224012890he sort of gives her the autism out in that interaction but her ego wont let her do it. you can see the line of thinking where she commits to pretending not to understand who is on first, but she cant take it all the way and pretend to have autism since that would hurt her ego
>>224012890>they gave upThey just lost track of their lies and played it off the best they could.
>>224012837you are the definition of midwit
>>224012915At least Nathan at the end doesn't let Amanda pull the Tumblr/woman twitter-type shit with her trying to force her Hollywood dramabait idea of him unconciously being in love with Elizabeth. I don't really like A24 at all and that other director doesn't seem to my tastes. But the other message besides showing how corrupt people operate, is how biopics and bioseries can also do what Elizabeth did which is mislead people into thinking dramatized events are actual events and that there are corny motherfuckers in Hollywood who do unsubtle shit like her with the Steve Jobs poster or the machine exploding. That people have to look into how things are depicted and the motivations behind depictions. Kinda simple stuff, but jews making a movie about noticing is kinda funny.
>>224012991>At least Nathan at the end doesn't let Amanda pull the Tumblr/woman twitter-type shit with her trying to force her Hollywood dramabait idea of him unconciously being in love with Elizabeth.This shit was all scripted. There was no real dialogue here.
>>224012991>>224013028obviously trusting and framing reality is a big part of this film. you cant trust what liz or billy say and you cant trust the filmmakers either. thats sort of the deal with watching a documentary or film depicting the "truth". the people making it can decide how its edited and what to show you, just like liz can decide to lie or fake cry or "forget" things like she claims through out. "You can see everything" can be talking about Nathan and the filmmakers just as much as it can be about liz and her deceit. the main place they do this in the film is the bit about her asking him to swim. or she says "jump in with me" or something to that effect to nathan. we have to wait until literally the last scene to see that nathan did jump in with her despite his reluctancy. the metaphor is obvious.Like you say, Amanda calls into question nathan's reliability as the narrator right before that swimming scene.
>>224013468You know, the film spells all of this out. No need for the wiki recap.
>>224008705You thought poor people owned stables with dozens of horses? I knew /tv/ was retarded, but
>>224013503So true!! Why discuss it when I can read a fucking pajeet’s literal synopsis on wikipedia with no analysis?
>>224013528That's what that post is - a literal synopsis with no analysis.
>>224013565Shouldn’t you crying and mass replying about how you hate the movie instead of replying to a post you don’t understand about a movie you didn’t watch?
>>224013609It's not that deep, and the movie spells it out. Hate to break it to you, but it's a popular mainstream documentary. You're not special for getting it, and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out just because it's meta. Read this post: >>224013468
>>224013650youve added nothing to the conversation, but thanks for all your words really great
>>224008368She was a patsy for the military industrial complex
>>224013702Neither did that post. Again, it's mostly synopsis. And none of that crap even worked on me, because I never trusted Holmes, and I never trusted the filmmakers. It's obvious from very early on. I don't need a lecture about the nature of truth in films after suffering three hours of the filmmakers desperately trying to obscure the truth. The swimming scene felt contrived, and was as unconvincing as a lot of the second half of the film, nor does it give any real artistic dimension to the film. It's empty. A magic trick that didn't work on me.
>>224013816he's done it again! added nothing AND let his Me Monster feast!!> i i i me me meyou are a child
>>224013468Whoa. Really makes you think.
>>224013468dude i just smoked a bowl and this fucking with my head
>>224008713She didn't "get away with it", and I'm pretty sure she's not even white.
>>224013468This is a great post! Don't see too many posts like this on 4chan these days
Liz goes barefoot a lot in this movie and even though her flappers are nice even I know she's lying all the time.
>>224013468mind if i copy and paste this for my letterbox review
>>224013468ppl went in expecting to learn about theronas but instead this documentary went next level shit
>>224013468>>224013921>>224013988>>224014026samefag die
>>224008482Charlie Kirk had autism?
what was the point of showing the dude's dic? boring documentary
>>224011985This anon would get scammed
>>224008368>neurodivergent girl who said some things in an awkward and confusing manner and got crucified for it.Though I haven't watched the movie and don't know much about her or theranos, this is what I've been saying too. She's a weirdo who got up in corporate culture (which openly encouraged her behavior). She's still a really weird personHer pathology is a personality thing (and maybe some kind of autism), not sociopathy or whatever
>>224008368You deserved to get scammed.
