You thing an alien race would do this goofy shit?
>You thing
>>224006972I do think its possible that once we get technologically advanced enough, it will become obvious that the universe is teeming with life. Like imagine we develop a tech and then turn it on and all of a sudden we see it like turning on the radio and hearing the music.
You thingaling
>>224006972>an alien race would do this goofy shit?Fuck around with a lesser race? Sure they would lmao.
Anybody has read the book?
>>224007201Yeah 30 years ago. Pretty decent adaptation. Everyone got filtered because they never showed the alien.
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>>224007201I thing I has but forgets
>>224007014extremely unlikely because somebody else would've taken earth a long time ago. its a pristine cradle for life and has been just sitting here, unbothered, for hundreds of millions of years.its practically guaranteed that planets like earth, and complex life, is extremely rare, and that we're the only civilization within a billion lightyears.but thats not so bad either. it can be a call to carry life into the cosmos, to become gardeners, explorers and curators.and the idea that someday, all life in our corner of the universe will have originated on earth, because we carried it with us.
>>224007201Yeah, they send like a dozen scientists through the wormhole all at once, and all of them report meeting a dead relative/ childhood friend/ etc. so when they get back to Earth, there's no ambiguity about whether or not the machine worked.
>>224007754I think that once you become advanced enough to take over someone else's planet you are also advanced enough not to need someone else's planet
>>224007870There’s also the argument that only peaceful species live long enough to achieve interstellar travel.
>>224007918>There’s also the argument that only peaceful species live long enough to achieve interstellar travel.thats pretty neat and seems to make sense
>turns out that aliens are real>all everyone can talk about is if some bitch believes in God Do I have to be american to make sense of this movie?
>>224006972>goofy shitYou mean manipulating a primitive species and distorting their view of reality?You don't pay attention to real life very much, do you?
>>224006972I'd think so. We're incapable of reaching our next nearest star so if we can manage to build something and pass a test, why not. We'd want proof that a lesser species could join us in society, right?Otherwise, FTL travel is a great threshold to cross.
>>224006972>yfw the first alien signal from outer space is a shitpost
>>224006972Thank christ Carl Sagan was dead when this came out, so he didn't have to see this piece of shit movie.
If there are aliens and they some day come to Earth, most likely will be to conquer us and kill us or submit us. Isn't it better that we don't find aliens?Imagine that some hostile aliens found our radio signals and using that come here and kill us and take our planet. People think that the aliens are going to be good, give use science to solve all of our problems and join them being inmortal gods traveling the stars. That sounds too naive in my opinion. Those aliens must have become half machine at least if not completely machine like and they won't have feelings, they will see a planet that has resources that they need and will take it getting rid of the inconvenience that there is in the planet.
>>224008536The only thing Earth has that makes it special is a lot of liquid h2o but a spacefaring civilization can presumably melt ice
>>224008320>360s my legs and flys away
>>224008536The only thing on Earth that you cannot get much more easily from space are the unique evolutionary developments of terrestrial life and human intelligence. Maybe planets like Earth will only provide one unique chemical or technology that is useful to an alien society, maybe they will provide countless. But you can't get this by blowing up the humans of Earth, you can only get it by studying Earth without letting Earth detect you.
>>224008797Do you think we could have a technology that the aliens that travel through the universe don't already have?
>>224007006>>224007368He’s trying anon, at least he’s not blacked posting.
>>224007014It's been conclusively proven that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. Even if there are aliens somewhere in the universe it's literally impossible for us to ever meet them.
>>224008906Look how many different ways different human cultures used to solve the same problem. Our defining characteristic as a species is that we make tools to overcome our shortcomings. We might be very unique, or at least worthy of being studied.
>>224008906Yes! Humans still find weird shit in nature that we never invented but that we can use. Maybe the technology we have helps them boost efficiency in some way by 1%, they could use that. The whole reason the Combine in HL2 keep humans around is to farm us for our portal tech. That's why they let the rebels continue to exist under pressure, to get them to make the superior portal tech that the Combine can then snap up. They just didn't expect us to close their main portal to Earth.
>>224009012>Our defining characteristic as a species is that we make tools to overcome our shortcomings.All aliens species (if they exist) also need to develop their technology. That is not something unique that only us have.
>>224008975Maybe there are ways to travel somewhere that don't involve traveling there.
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>>224009038Yeah but I’m saying what if we developed ours differently and they might learn from it.
>>224008975Things can travel close to the speed of light though. For the spaceship and the astronauts on the spaceship, it might only take a few years or decades to reach anywhere in the galaxy. What does seem to be impossible is for the population of a planet to be in contact with the population of another planet. For astronauts in spaceships it might even be possible to visit multiple alien planets, they just couldn't ever visit the same one twice or go back to their own home planet.
>>224008975There’s always a loophole though. What if we send the ship back in time 100 light years and launch it from then?
Carl Sagan’s story didn’t come out of a vacuum. It was inspired by some pretty contemporary mysteries - most specifically the “Epsilon Boötis” signal. In the 1920s as radio technology was maturing there were many amateur astronomers and radio operators that were reporting “echos” of signals coming from somewhere near the moon. The echoes would repeat random signals pointed at it and it would come back in random delays. People kept reporting it but nothing ever came from it. In the 1970s a Stanford Professor took all the reports and laid out their data on a chart that plotted the sequence number of the echo against their delay. What he noticed is that it created a pretty accurate galactic coordinate of the Epsilon Boötis system as it was around 13,000 years ago. No one has ever been able to confirm why these echos are happening and some have posited that they are an alien probe that was sent to Earth 13,000 years ago and has remained dormant there ever since. You can read up more about it here: https://theorkneynews.scot/2022/05/29/epsilon-bootis-revisited/amp/
>I just couldn't in good conscience vote for a person who doesn't believe in God. Someone who honestly thinks the other ninety five percent of us suffer from some form of mass delusion.Atheists lost
>>224008906obviously, there's this job called pharmaceutical naturalist. Pharma companies fund expeditions to deep jungles hoping that any odd insect that's cataloged can be used in drug manufacture.
>>224009243That's a quote from Palmer (Matthew McConaughey) btw
>>224009243Thinking humans are the most advanced species in the universe is pure hubris. We are fucking retarded.
it's a boring and overly-long movie. the terrible ending is the only reason anyone remembers it
>>224007014Seems unlikely. And what's the point? If the signal is millions of years old anyways
>>224007006>yes maam i am be doing the thinging
>>224011471Wrong thread, bot
>>224008975Yes, but we’ve also learned that there’s no speed limit on spatial expansion. Presumably that also holds true for spatial contraction. Of all the FTL tech we’ve seen in sci-if, wormholes and warp drives are looking the most likely.
>>224009085Lmfao
>>224009166Holy shit.