lol
>2018
I'm surprised GRRM was never cancelled, he radiates male feminist sex pest energy
>Write a whole book because your kid is being a smart ass.
>>223996625Fat pink masts and myrish swamps vindicated
>>223996618>what pass in his mind
>>223996618He wrote like half a dozen extremely detailed and horny sex scenes for 13yo dany, one of the sample chapters from winds has 10(or is it 9 idk) yo arya seducing a grown man to murder him, he's 100% some sort of pedo
>>223996603does a whore house not count as porn?
>>223996670>Life is very full of sex, oh my life? Well no I haven't seen my fat pink mast in years, I do hire a prostitute to search for it every now and again but it is quite costly and they never do seem to find it before the hour is up.
>>223996642>>223996739When you finishing it? You don't have kids or a wife to distract you.
>>223996812It is over
>>223996670>Can't imagine Hobbits having sex.
>>223996897Where do whores go ?
>>223996907Bree presumably?
>>223996932useful as nipples on his breastplate
Grrmartin is one of those nerd who ask something "clever" and then rub his beard when the guy doesn't even bother to answer because how stupid the question was
>>223996946Always thought that was weird because that's not a terribly common motif in armor in western Europe during the medieval period.Oversized armored codpeices would be note relevant to the High/Late Middle ages Gurm is trying to ape.
>>223996670>As much as I admire Tolkien - and I do>...PREASE JAY ARR ARR, PREASU
>>223996897>and got BUSY
>>223996670tolkien would have been jailed in his era if he wrote about sex
>>223997024Most novels at the time were about sex, just referred to obliquely One of the reasons why critics gave him negative reviews was because he completed ignored that stuff
>>223996670All the hobbits except Frodo end up married with kids. Tolkein understood that, of your thousand-page epic fantasy, women only merit a paragraph
>>223996977Is that banter or do you not know it's a "humourous" reference to the 1997 movie Batman and Robin
>>223996618>male feminist sex pest energyLmao imagine how butthurt you have to be to think this is a real thing. i'm 100% sure you are an incel
Although at one point Jorah Mormont does wear a breastplate with nipples>The nipples on his muscled breastplate had a pair of iron rings through them.Presumably it was former slave armour, and the slaves were chained together... but maybe Martin is building to something and the nipples gag will get a better pay-off in book 6
>>223997073Why reference that?
>>223996670I have coomer fatigue
>>223996670Children of Hurin literally has a pregnancy conceived from incest. Maybe GRRM stole that idea from Tolkien!
>>223997128It was controversial/mocked in nerd circles
>>223997156Between brother and sister no less!
>>223997128Although like I said it's possible Martin has more in mind. Lots of defective fertility woven into the story, so maybe it connects that way
>>223996670Fornicators only care for sex and have no time for romance. Sam has romantic feelings for that hobbit wench. Aragorn and Arwen, plus the pining of Aowen creating romantic tension. Later Aowen and Feramir. Sorry if a modern fairy tale myth doesn’t have explicit sex scenes. That is my theory for why women who claim to love books never read LotR, but have read all of ASoIaF (that exists).
>>223997103go to bed Kratos
>>223996603shocked this lazy hedonist hack isn't a jew.
>>223997274>shocked this lazy hedonist hack isn't a jew.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjCdPVnIguw
>>223997310Man, it really is every single time, isn't it?
>>223997103>saying nothing but buzzwords>>223997237>responding with equally garbage responseI wish we could round up all the zero effort trash posters and put them in camps
>>223996603George Martin is a fucking perverted hack. He's never writing the book. One of you must take the honor in writing the best Fanfiction ending and wait until he croaks so you can release it and doesn't steal your ideas.
>>223996618rich pedos only get cancelled after death
>>223997372>He's never writing the bookHe is writing it with his penis. That's why it's taking so long, dicktating is a pretty involved operation.
>>223997103found one
>>223997437He's not even doing that. One of you guys should hack him and see if he's even write at least one word or sentence
>>223996670>Has no children of his ownYeah, he's definitely a fat sexpest
>>223997528>He's not even doing that. One of you guys should hack him and see if he's even write at least one word or sentenceI think he uses a super old computer that he doesn't hook up to the internet. If we want to know what he's got were going to need to do this the old fashioned way. We'll dress you up as a female maid and integrate you with the maid service he uses to clean his mansion. From there your mission will be to find his writing terminal and assess the situation in person. If you are caught we will disavow your mission, your existence and whether we''ll lao call you out as a cross dressing pervert on twitter/
>>223997372Just have AI write it.
>>223996625Based autist kid
>>223997572fuck that, you do it, I'll get sued. I'll just do the AI thing. He probably has cameras in his home.
>>223997716The generation thar "grew up with the internet" doesn't actually understand how it works.They interacted with it exclusively through apps.
>>223996670>or should be
>>223996897I didn't know Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin were Sam's kids.
>>223996670You know all these quotes do suck but he also said he would rather go to middle earth than heaven itself so in his mind he does respect and appreciate Tolkien to the point of literal divinity.
>>223998945or, as a secularist, he considers both as equally implausible fantasies, and says he prefers the former over the later in typical edgelord fashion
>>223996670>Life is very full of shit, or should be. As much as I admire Tolkien - and I do, he was a giant of fantasy and a giant of literature, and I think he will be read for many years - you do have to wonder when all those Hobbits went to the toilet, since you can't imagine Hobbits taking a shit, can you? Well, shitting is an important part of who we are. It drives us to the bathroom, it motivates us to have a balanced diet, it makes us do sometimes very quick visits to a public restroom and it makes us do sometimes incredibly long diarrheic expeditions to our own private bathrooms. Leave it out, and you've got an incomplete word.
>>223998834kek
>>223998945Tolkien wouldn't want you to pick Middle Earth over Heaven, so fatman just further proves that he doesn't understand Tolkien and is only saying what he mistakenly thinks makes him look like a "Tolkien fan" as a buffer against his idiotic takes about LotR.
>>223996670desu he is right. sex and food are the things that at base drive us. and the lack of humanity in fantasy is the reason i never got into it, LOR included. its why however i found GOT captivating, it was true to life somewhat, at least more connected to our reality than typical fantasy where its just aping a fictionalized chaucer and shakespearean chivalrist imagery, devoid of certain raw aspects of humanity.
>>223997103You've been living under a rock for the past 15-20 years you dumb fucking shit?
>>223997716>fuck that, you do it, I'll get sued. I'll just do the AI thing. He probably has cameras in his home.You coward! Come back here and be the scapgoa- I mean integral leader on this.
>>223996603>2018
>>223997103Felt called out, huh?
>>223996670>Tolkien: happily married, madly in love with his wife, four children>GRRM: no wife, no childrenYeah, clearly GRRM knows all about sex.
Sunset found him eating instead of writing.
>>223996625He did what no one else did and listened.
>>224000194He really Beren'd his Luthien
>>223996618for several reasons, including that people view books as being allowed to have unsavory themes and don't try to censor them, and that he has a ton of female fans
>>224000194He has bastards everywhere.
>>223996670GRRM is the Tim Sweeney to Tolkien's Gabe Newell
>>223996603Finish your book!
>>223996618His book is FULL of pedophilia, with several moments of Daenerys not only being raped but GRRM describing shit like "her underage 13 year old nipples were dripping milk" after the dragons hatch.Stephen King is called a pedophile over the kid orgy in IT but GRRM is never called out, curious.
>I liked Lord of the Rings but where's all the flaccid wieners
There's no creativity in westeros
>>223996603
>>223999365I just feel sorry for you if you can't see the obvious value of uplifting stories and ideals.
>>223996603George RAPE RAPE Martin
>>223996603We should stage a book burning of Game of Thrones and dance around flaming effigies of Geogre Martin.
>>223996618>he radiates male feminist [...] energyThat's why.
>>224002262They should all fight for his inheritance once the fat fuck chokes on a chickenbone. You could call it the battle of bastards or something.
>>223996670what would happen if a grown man had sex with a hobbit woman?asking for a friend
>>223999365So is defecating. Would paragraphs describing stools of every character in great detail captivate you? Or is it too raw of an aspect for you? You dumb beast.
>>224004511>implying that shitting scenes aren't kino>"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. When she closed her eyes at last, Dany did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again." - G.R.R.M.
>>224004511extremely low iq post, one is captivating and the other is not
Tolkien finished his story, GRRM.
>>223996670>it makes us do sometimes very noble things?
>>224003590because calling someone a pedophile for writing a medieval style story about "underage" girls having sex is retarded, and likening the birth of her dragons to a woman experiences childbirth is kino
>>224004825> A 40 year old leftists extensively writing about 13 year old girls being raped is cool!> Stephen King implying the kids had an orgy is bad and pedophilia???
>>223996670Sapkowski has a perfect middle ground in his works. Just enough sex to keep things grounded and remind you of people’s humanity but not so much that it feels more like a porn parody.
>>224004825>no, no, you don't understand! going into graphic detail about this giant horselord fondling and fingering barely teenaged Daenerys is totally crucial to the plot, because medieval style, or something!>I can't trust the readers to draw their own conclusions from carefully crafted prose, they MUST hear the explicit play-by-play of their foreplay
>>223996670He’s right. Also even after converting to Chuddism I still don’t understand the aversion that some chuds have to sex. Graphic sex is literally in the bible.
>>223997156and an infinitely better story than asoiaf desu
>>223996603>Sauron is up to no good! I must consult with my good friend, Sauronman!What did Tolkien mean by this?
>>224005112You don’t think the underage lesbian rape scene was a bit far?
>>223996670friendly reminder this fat fuck chud is from new jersery lmao>you can't imagine hobbits having sexthey literally joke about hobbits fucking like rabbits in the first movie and sam goes on to have like 12 kids
>>224003590GRMM is less obnoxious irl so he doesn't get as much flak
yeah well Tolkien can actually finish his mainline books
>>224005052it makes sense for it to be in the story he's writing, can you say the same for King?
>>224000194He's been married for 15 years
>>223996618pretty sure you need to have sex to be a sex pest
>>223996670This is why I never picked up GoT even though Jaqen seems to be a kino tv character
>>224003590grrm gives out friendly pedobear vibes, he's into jailbait and will jerk out to your sisters pics.king will violently rape that sister
>>224005774It makes sense to write about child rape in a fantasy book about dragons?
>>224005114going into explicit detail about uncomfortable and very real moments in life is a huge part of the books it would be weird to gloss over the sex stuff. Also Daenerys is like the one character where it actually is relevant to her plot reclaiming her sexual identity
>>224005897>married for 15 years>2026 - 15 = 2011>last book, A Dance with Dragons, released...2011so it's HER fault we haven't got The Winds of Winter!
>>223996603>>and she shat and she drank and she shat and the more the drank the more she squatted and shatbravo, masterful prose.
>>224006159>it would be weird to gloss over the sex stuffSays who? A talented wordsmith can get the point across without gratuitously explaining how wet she got from Drogo touching her cookie.
>>224006189It's her fault Arya killed the Night King and became an anime mary sue.
>>224006154in a story where a major theme is about the horrors of war and marriage being a political tool, yeah
>>223996670I wonder if he ever thinks about how being too detailed about each character's life can get in the way of finishing the story
>>224004511paragraphs of defectaing? GRRM has you covered>>224004613
>>224004825>>224005774Just having it happen is one thing and it "fits the setting" has you said, having long detailed explicit descriptions of a 13 yo sex scenes that are clearly meant to be arousing is a different matter thoughTo be clear idgaf personally but it's really weird he never gets called out for it
>>223996897>didn't call any of the remaining son Aragorn/Gimli/Legolas/boromir.Come on, this could have been the best homage.8/10 nonetheless
>>224006277> I purposefully wrote a setting in which i am free to write as much child rape as i want> This does not reflect on me badly at allFunny how Tolkien didn't feel like adding child rape to his setting. Almost like there's 0 reason to unless the author is a mentally ill pedophile.
>>224006272for rizzeal? that's whack, dog.
>>22400359013 is borderline between hebephile/ephebophile, not pedophile.
>>224006204>masterful prose.people rightfully meme about shit like this,"her cunt became the world", pink mast etc but grrm does have very good prose for genre fiction standards
>>224006232yeah and guess which version of the story creates the bigger emotional response
>>224006422>mfw reading this scene for this first time in the backseat of a car during a roadtrip with family
>>223996897is that THE Goldilocks???
>>224006522we'll never know. but given how things are often better expressed indirectly in visual media, I'd suspect the alternative would have been better.
>>223996812I'm having @grok finish it for me
>>223996603totally true but so is George, all fantasy is hack work.
>>223996625>>oralsick fuck.
>>224006832>crypto-fascist Leftists love making up random labels and suspecting closeted attributes for people
>>224007017Tolkein supported Franco. Not a stretch to call him a crypto fascist.
>>223997528>One of you guys should hack him and see if he's even write at least one word or sentenceAnonymous is not your personal army.
>>223996670>GRRM "Life is full of sex, blah blah blah blah blach. And if you leave it out, you've got an incomplete world"GRRM does not understand the point of Tolkien's books is about duty and heroism within a world of black and white morals. Not all stories have to be complex, or have tons of nuances to each character. It is one thing to criticize a man's literary works for not achieving that goal, it's another to apply that criticism to them when it was never the point. It amazes me how some excellent writers are completely blind-sighted to such obvious things.
>>223996603>Jew bemoans a lack of degeneracy Many such cases
>>224007138It is a stretch, don't be retarded
>>224006510GRRM had great prose for the first 3 books when he had proper editing being done. Didn't he fire/demand to be left alone for Feast and Dance? Thats what you get. Two bloated trashfires and an unfinished product.
>>223996897>Hamfast
>>223996603ASOIF will never be finished and GRRM is a fat fuck.
Does he or Shatner die first?
>>224007138>devout Catholic supported the guy who punished the nun-raping commiefaggotsBig shock.
>>223996812GRRM does have a wife though
>>224008237Claude will finish writing the rest of the novels.
>>223996618He was at some convention perving on Emilia Clarke hard when the show first started.
>>224008237Double trvke.
>>223996897Horny little hobbitses
>>223996603They never adreas porn, taxes, out policy in Game of Thrones, either.
>>223996670> Literally the opening paragraph of the Hobbit is explaining Bilbo's geneologyI'm just gonna say it: he's never read Tolkien. He just heard things in passing and knew he wasn't going to get grilled about it.
>>223996603Did Colbert even defend Tolkien here? He's supposed to be such an expert right?
>>223997345Yes, but they're antichrists who blasphemously refer to themselves as Jews not actually Jews. You can't be a Jew if you're not Christian.
>>223996603FINISHTHE BOOKSFATTY
>>223998945No, he just hates God more
>>223999365They eat multiple times in the Lord of the Rings
>>223996618Shae's actress is his oneitis
>>224005774The King one made sense, the Game of Thrones one doesn't
>>224007138> One of the most liberal places in the world> Fascist Lying is as easy as breathing for you guys, huh?
>>223996670I’m imagining Hobbits having sex right now.
>>224009310my first thought. the setting does feel sexless but everyone fucking loves food.
>>223996670Fat fuck degenerate faggot. Holy shit what a fucking creep
Martin was raised on COMIC BOOKS. He used to write into marvel.
>>223996603>How dare Tolkien not dedicate an entire chapter to Galadriel vomiting and having nightmarish period diarrhea
>>223996670Tolkien didn't need to write constant lurid, pornographic descriptions of rape and every kind of atrocity for us to know they were happening. Saruman wasn't making a subhuman disposable shock troop race of half goblin/half dunlendish hill barbarians in muck pits despite what the fanfic films depict. Tolkien had seen enough of the horror of war in real life to know that it's something that shouldn't be reveled in. (in fact, the abandoned sequel to lord of the rings that he started but quickly gave up on was to be a scathing critique of the kind of juvenile sheltered edgelords who idolize violence and war precisely because they've never actually been exposed to them)
>>224009593>gib pussi hair pls>she gives you three
>>223999027George R. R. Martin if he was a pajeet
>>224009535Explains why GoT reads like melodramatic capeshit and not a serious fantasy epic
I guess fatso missed this scene… https://youtu.be/d-PmAQ9Opu4
>>223996897This is a common rhetoric against Christian, atheist degenerates say that Christian shudder at the mere thought of sex and then Christians retort by asking how do you think I got 5 children? The truth is that atheist degenerates psyopsed their own selves into thinking that sex is not sexual reproduction. They shudder at the mere thought that sex makes children which goes back to their initial accusation toward Christians which demonstrates that it's projection.
>>224007454All these trees and blades of grass are the result of sex thoughbeitfully. I think the sex is implied enough in LotR, the talking trees are even lamenting the fact that they can't find mates.
>>224010969I mean I don't want to sound like I'm being prudish or anything but with so much going people really aren't going to stop to think about their boners. It's weird to say, I know, but people are capable of actually controlling their sex drives when there's an army of evil storming your gate.
>>223996625That's not the first time that happened, look at the origin of Alice in Wonderland, perhaps a fantasy book even more popular than LotR, nagged by a girl to make up a story on a boat, then write it in a book just for the girls and then made another version to be published commercially.
Gimli was going to chop Eomer's legs off when he suggested that Galadriel might not be THAT hot.
>>223996897Consider the tardwrangling he had to do with FrodoConsider the horrors he sawI too would do absolutely nothing for the rest of my life except fuck my hairy-footed wife until I died from diabetes
>>223996670Yeah okay but Tolkien was writing an idealism story for children
>>224011182>Actually fight in wars.>See the horrors and brutality of humanity at it's worst.>STILL HOLDS TO IDEALS. Doesn't sugar coat things. Doesn't hand wave suffering and tragedy. But still holds to ideals.Good.
The first three ASOIAF books were good. Not genre defining timeless classics like Tolkien, but not bad either.The last two books were utter shit. And he’s not even going to finish the sixth book, let alone the seventh. Of course he’s a hack. He was a decent writer 30 years ago who got extremely lazy.
>>224004825>for writing a medieval style story about "underage" girls having sex is retarded,>and likening the birth of her dragons to a woman experiences childbirth is kinoYou're very, how do they say, woman coded.
>>224011221precisely.
>>223996670Literally all I can imagine hobbits doing is growing crops, eating the crops they grew (drinking the fermented ones), and fucking more hobbits out over the winter. Frodo and Bilbo are just the poncy gentleman of leisure who spend the energy others reserve for fieldwork on epic, soul shrivening quests.
>>223996670he's right tho is there a single instance of hobbits pining for hobbit women?
>>224012040Sam pinning for Rosie.
>>224012040
>>224009535This explains lot
>>224012085>live longer than humans>harder to kill than most races>breed like rabbits how have they not taken over middle earth?
>>224012232Similar to tom bombadil they are simply too content to care
>>224012232effort...
>>224012085>>224012232actually scratch that 13 kids isnt a big deal if you live to be 100+ regularly and are probably able to make kids for a much longer period than human
>>223997345Yes. Every. Single. Time.
>>224012313Humans live 70-80 and even a couple kids can be a handful. Even for an immortal elf 10+ would be a lot.
>>223997372>J.R.R.>G.R.R.Even his name is hackery and theft.
>>224012313yeah but for hobbits the end of puberty is about when they're 30-40 years old.
>>223996603Duh?
>>223999027I'm going to acknowledge this as an authentic quote and redistribute it as such. Thank you.
>>224011098>perhaps a fantasy book even more popular than LotRwhat planet do you live on? LOTR is one of the most popular and best selling books, period.
>>223997103Struck a nerve with this sex pest. Probably fat too.Wait a minute... George?
>>223998937they were named after them. something we as humans used to do back when we used to have close loyal friends and fathered children
>>223996625kek, so we all have to thank christopher then
Maybe, before this fat fuck speaks anything about anyone else in the fantasy genre, he should finish his work first. oh wait he never will because he will die before that.These books are months older than me and I already have a kid on the way. First time I read ADWD was when I was college.Jesus fuck, fuck this fat faggot.
>>223996618grrm is "safe horny" so he basically has a license to rape from mi6
>>224003590Context and setting of the story does that for you. In Medieval times where there's no internet, cars, or any piece of technology that runs on electricity or hell even steam, 13 is ripe enough for kids.In Stephen King's IT, that shit is disgusting since it happened during contemporary times.
Does anyone even care about Game of Thrones anymore? I mean I'm not trying to say NOBODY does but it seems like all the hype it got from HBO has long since died out and people don't really talk about it as much anymore. And all the while LOTR remains a corner stone.
GRRM is literally quoted more times in /tv/ than Tolkien, how is the latter better? Give me one Tolkien line that's quoted here.We have SHAT AND SHAT SOME MORE and FAT PINK MAST from grrm
>>224012552It's just your usual run-of-the-mill bandwagon pop-culture tumour drama show. Like Breaking Bad. Or Lost.
>>224004825Double-tap yourself, George
>>224006277Found the pedo
>>224012552because game of thrones the series was just some fotm that really turned to complete shit during the last seasons unlike LOTR which is a completed, high quality work both literary and cinematically. rings of power is obviously complete dogshit, but thats a symptom of our horrid culture, not LOTR itself.
>>223996670The ability to have restraint and not write down your horny thoughts into a book is pretty admirable. This enrages grrm because he lacks any sort of self control. he's fat and writes smut books, so he feels lesser thinking about Tolkien and has to cope that his books are more "real".
>>223997156And the Silmarillion has an Elf who wanted to rape his cousin. I think he was the guy who forged Turin's black sword actually. Or maybe I'm mixing him up.
>>224006445Kys pedo
The ultimate problem with A song of fire and ice is that it, at the end of the day, is just subversive bullshit that's not built on anything genuine. It's got complex histories and factions and pieces but there's not a real story. Characters die for shock value. Because he wants to counter fantasy with reality. But you can't tell a story that way. Sooner rather than later he'll need to write something something sincere and he can't do that.
>>224012379on this onealice in wonderland is more famous than lotr
>>224012780He was that guy's son.
>>224002629>Tim derangement syndrome on /tv/>praising Gaben the guy responsible for all the bad stuff in gaming atmSad
>>224012552why the fuck would there be hype for a show that is no longer airing anon? >people don't really talk about it as much anymore.there have been GoT threads on /tv/ literally every day since the show ended and it makes tolkienfags seethe so much they make threads like these
>>224006426Frodo doesn't remember Legolas' name
>>224012920>why the fuck would there be hype for a show that is no longer airing anon?I realize this isn't the book board but I'd at the very least assume the the novels retain some popularity. Conan still endured even long after the Arnold movie. LoTR endured long after the Jackson trilogy and whatever amazon bullshit happened. But GOT just seems to be constant bitching about it never ending and what a hack and fatass Martin is
>>224012865this really is the problem. it figures itself so brave for being a fantasy world with a non-transcendental idealist morality and is just wholly materialist to the core, which is not that unique or interesting, really.
>>224012997The depressing part is that it's all shit Michael Moorecock did LONG before Martin ever got the idea and Elric was a way better series
>>224013019definitely agree. im not a massive fan of elric, but i respect it and its at least nowhere near as pretentious as ASOIAF
>>224012329>even a couple kids can be a handful In modern times, three or four generations ago it was not at all uncommon to have 10+ sons and daughters. My grandma has I think 8 siblings
>>224007138Tolkien supported the guy fighting against the people murdering priests and raping nuns yes. And at any rate Morecock is a faggot who will seethe in Tolkien's shadow until his dying breath. Hell Morecock is only relevant because a Polack ripped off his OC and made a more popular series with him lol. No one gives a shit about Elric.
>>224008755didn't he casting couch Shae's actress?
>>224013084>In modern times, three or four generations ago it was not at all uncommon to have 10+ sons and daughters.Because 4-5 of them were probably going to die
>>224012894ohDid you know that Tolkien has just under 1,000 named characters? Like 998 or something. Some nerd compiled them all. Not even Christopher was that autistic.
>>224013019elric's fun but i think it's too "pulp" for the "grounded fantasy" most people jerk off now, because as subversive as it is, it also plays a lot of the asskicking and sex stuff fairly straight. i was surprised how much pussy elric got, when everyone builds him up as a mopey eunich
>>224013059>its at least nowhere near as pretentious as ASOIAFIt is though. Morecock is far more dismissive of Tolkien than Martin ever was because he genuinely thinks his "what if Elves... but evil? metal innit?" subversive bullshit is DEEP.
>>223996603Talmudic perv
>>224013084three or 4 generations ago they also got started at 13 the way god intended, not 33.
>>224007138You have to an actual retarded faggot to not see Franco was the best thing for the country. Even ignoring killing rapist commies, he stabilized Spain after it had been politically unstable for 200 years. He also kept Spain out of the war vs the commies and the Democrats would have creamed their pants to let more Spaniards die for their Jewish overlords.He also set up the mechanism for peaceful transfer of power, even though the king stabbed him in the back like a cuck coward.
I think it's very bad form to speak about your predecessors when you haven't finished your own work. It makes you look competitive, hostile and shallow as if you have no confidence in your own creation.
>>224013110In medieval times yes, but not in the 1800 and 1900s
>loses a fight (that he picked) with a dead manKWABOAT
>>223996670People will bitch at this and wonder why there's no more tits and ass in movies.
>GRRM thinks Jaime Lannister can beat AragornWhat's he high on? Milk of the poppy? Sybil's bath water?
>>224013817especially when you are a professional, full-time writer and you cant even finish it. tolkien did his writing ALONGSIDE his responsibilities as an academic philologist and university professor, participating in faculty meeting and institutional governance in oxford in his free-time AND being a father of four and managing a household. its a wonder that LOTR was even finished at all considering how much of a busy man he was. this fat childless fuck does literally NOTHING except write.
>>224013838Even in the great depression it wasn't uncommon to lose a kid or three. Then there was the whole dust bowl thing. My own grandmother lost at least potential aunts or uncles before my dad was born.
>>224013912Yeah. That's the really sad part. Fartin doesn't have anything else going on. You could maybe argue he was busy working on the show but that was a while back now and there is nothing stopping him outside his own laziness.
How much did he actually contribute to Elden Ring?
>>224014402Supposedly he just wrote a basic outline for the setting. He wouldn't need to do anything more because Miyazaki is as vague as possible with his world building. He wants us all to feel as lost as he did as a Japanese kid who wasn't proficient enough in English to follow what was happening in The Lord of the Rings.
>>224013817it's only retards that think he hates Tolkien though
>>223996670...why can't you imagine hobbits having sex?I'd fuck a hobbit chick. No problem,Maybe a dude too, I dunno.
>>224014402basically just made up the basic outline for the families and their lineages. i think he did the bare minimum to be included as a major credit for marketing purposes
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>>224003590>>224004825>>224012542Bro, fucking a 13 year old was questionable even in that time. Nobles married younger out of necessity for political alliances. But this led to them dying more in childbirth. Peasants waited until 18 because a man had nothing to offer young and peasant women would die giving birth underdeveloped
>>224013907isn't Aragorn like 2 meter tall chad with longer fighting experience than Jaime's entire life
>>224016380Yeshe also has super strength because his people were literally divinely blessed
>>224016377No one waited until 18. Even right now 18 is not the age, but 16 is.
>>224016307>*sweats loudly*kek
>>224012563>GRRM is literally quoted more times in /tv/ than Tolkien, how is the latter better? Give me one Tolkien line that's quoted here.I've seen far more threads here discussing tolkien's work than Germs. People likely find GoT easier to troll with since it's terrible and there's so much to dislike about both the writer and the work>the more she drank the more she shatHis work is a shitpost in and of itself.
>>224016530GRRM criticized the lack of realism in Tolkien's work while telling a story with far less middle age realism or accuracy. There is no actual moral complexity but really contrived modern sentiments and ideas in an age such things would never even come to mind. Right and wrong are only questionable when looked at from a modern perspective. If you look at it from the framework of the time, the morality is obvious.
>>223996670Tolkien had taste
>>224016777Tolkien was specifically inspired by ancient Germanic and Celtic folklore. And, of course, based the origins of his world heavily on Christian creation myth.GRRM created genre fiction. Dark fantasy slop.
GRRM strikes me as the guy who has to have a contrarian opinion about things, despite having fairly vanilla tastes himself.
>>224013912>does literally NOTHING except write.And he doesnt even do that apparently.
>>224014402According to GRRM himself it was 1-2 pages of notes, he said it in an interview.
>>224012563We used to have regular Tolkien threads with anons doing deep dives into the history of the world, characters etc. These people have either left or dont bother posting anymore since the collective IQ of the site dropped well below triple digits.
>>224014402I think almost the entire lore ? it is a good copy of Tolkien lotr btw
>>224017456Tolkien formula is 100% success
>>224017291Yes but he's postmodern so ultimately there's no coherent philosophical framework to make a positive point.
>>224013159>subversive bullshitThere are ancient legends about elves doing fucked up shit and causing trouble though. Tolkien made them into Christians, how is that not more subversive?
>>224017456Thats bullshit if GRRMs name wasnt on the marketing no one would think that someone other then Fromsoft contributed anything. He did two pages of notes which From used as a jumping off point. There was an interview with Miyazaki who said that GRRM wouldnt recognize the characters he wrote
Book Scully had a great video on Tolkien, fantasy and subversiveness.https://youtube.com/watch?v=_BBrDhgGz1k
>>224017498Kek Gurm have alzheimer ?
>>224017515Because they changed what he wrote so much.
>>224017467Tolkien had no formula. He was inspired by things he admired and wrote them in his own way.
>>224017494>There are ancient legends about elves doing fucked up shit and causing trouble though. Tolkien made them into Christians, how is that not more subversive?That's what the Irish and Romanized Brits did though?
>>223997156I love that Tolkien thought >I might try my hand at a tragedythen wrote a list of all the most horrible things he could think of and crammed it into a fairly short book. Kidnapped children, Turin's mother's implied rape, murder, homelessness, Turin accidentally killing his best friend, Turin accidentally fathering a child with his sister, suicide, parents outliving their kids... it just keeps going. And yet, it doesn't seem half as dour as anything George has written.
>>224017540I refer to people copying or getting inspirations from Tolkien
>>224017579ohyou're referring to fantasy slop>>224017578YesTolkien was the original anti-Tolkien
>>223996603But there's no porn in ASoIaF either
>>224017498I can't wait for the Elden Ring movie so George can use it as an excuse to attend premieres, give interviews, write a 2000 word blogpost about how different it is from his """vision""", basically anything except writing Winds of Winter
>>224016530The shitting scene was GRRM's idea of injecting humour into the storyIt's his Tom Bombadil.
>>224017591Formulas are often underrated. Many of the most genius creators in history followed formulas, and worked within them to deliver timeless truth and beauty.
>>224017746foolishness
>>224017782No.
>>224017798yes
Just shut up and write a fuckin book george stop attentionwhoring on TV and write
>>224017804I backed up my point, you didn't, you lose.
>>224017831are we in a courtroom?
>>224017498>>224017598I asked AI to speculate, it told me Martin is way more involved then what was officially stated. I believe it, as a huge fan reading about these characters right now, this is very much George.
>>224017835I speak the truth, it is your choice to remain ignorant or not.
>>224017948When does it say Winds of Winter will release?
It's hilarious how this fatso keeps yapping about how he's very different from Tolkien when he literally added an R to his name to make it more similar to Tolkien's.
>>223996625No wonder he was so upset about the movie
>>224013883I don't. Sex scenes in non-porn movies are always unnecessary and they add absolutely nothing to the story whatsoever
>>224006832>revolutionized science fiction>literally who>research on the Wiki>fat ugly fuckwad who looks like the most obvious neckbeard mlady archetype ever>retarded anarchist "pragmatist" who only cares about himself>wrote no sci fi novel I have ever heard of despite being a big sci fi fankek
>>223996603What a shocker that the Jewish subverter is pissed that a devout Catholic refused to put Jewish filth in his works.
>>224017578>>223997156Don't forget about The New Shadow.Tolkien was planning to write a sequel to LOTR that was set 200 years after Sauron's downfall which would treat things like societal decay, corruption, and people worshipping ancient evil, Sauron in this case, out of "boredom" with good.He thought it was too depressing to write and dropped it after 13 pages, but if Tolkien had been in the mood he could have pioneered dark, gritty, GoT-style fantasy as well.
>>224018193Yeah I don't miss them either. I would say there's a limited niche of (non-smut) movies where sex scenes can play a role and are legitimate reasons for including them. But I think more often than not, the reasons given are lame excuses. I also think it's fine for movies to include T&A as part of the aesthetic.
>>224006555checked and kek'd
>>224018336>tfw he saw the modern era coming but was too depressed about it to write about it
Since this is a writing kind of thread. Tell me what you think about this>Historically accurate middle Age fantasy setting (I am an absolute fucking autist for this time period)>Story is in a region where Gothic (Visigoth and Ostrogoth) and Norse like Germanic tribes took over the world's version of Rome and Carthage>Various Kingdoms with city state Republics sparsed between them>War-like and pagan conqueror culture with these various states to compete with each other has led to various mercenary companies rising to prominence, mirroring Italy in the late middle ages>Protagonist is a squire who's been with a mercenary company his entire life >Secretly cursed by the gods as his father raped a priestess in a church, marking his very existence as a rebellion against divine rule>Everyone is cursed to never remember his father's name or even what he did, just that the company suffered for a period of four years in what could only be divine punishment>Protagonist himself is cursed to never find peace, which he is totally fine with until it comes to inner peace, nor sire children (all are stillborn and the women die in childbirth)>Proves himself by preventing a war between two dukes under different kings from escalating beyond a border spat>Fights in an annual tourney blot as a sacrifice to the gods and wins, unknowingly undermining their authority by becoming a champion as an anathema to their existence>Takes advantage of the perilous overall political situation and his newfound status to engineer a region wide war between all the kingdoms and city states>Acts as a massive act of sacrifice towards himself>The priesthood and cults of the land gather together to bring an end to it by giving one unifying figure divine authority>It's his mercenary band>He arranges for himself and the company's entire hierarchy to be poisoned>As the sole survivor and most respected figure, he effectively becomes an emperor
>>224018687I had to stop because of character limit>falls into a deep depression as he took away his only purpose in life and killed the closest thing he had to a family>Curse is finally broken as his authority rivals the gods'>marries the princess that most irritates and challenges him>takes the most powerful witch for a mistress to act against any of the magical (I forgot to mention priests, mages, and wizards are more or less the same thing in this setting) authority figures>Witch mistress puts the entire meta plot even the protagonist is unaware of together, realizing he's made himself a living god in defiance of the gods while trying to honor them in the first place>the gods are actually concepts shaped by human consensus and the consensus of him is the peak of human potential with unmistakable divine authority>everyone vaguely magical being weirded out by him was because his mystical presence is fucking blinding due to the divine curse and all of his actions>a dragon awakens after centuries of slumber to begin terrorizing the land>with nothing left to really live for and seeking death, he fights it alone>doses himself with water and leaps into its mouth just as it breathes fire to ram his sword into the soft palate of its mouth up into its unprotected brain>realizing there's no one that can punish him more than himself or that anyone even can anymore, is forced to accept what he has done>retires as emperor to raise legitimate and bastard children with what are effectively two wives in peace>magically trained bastard with witch wife hitches a ride on a carriage out to the empire's frontier, an entirely different fate awaiting him but with the same drive his father once had
>>224018687>>224018816This is all a rough outline, of course. What spurs him to start doing crazy shit in the first place is having to put down his best friend who gets a gut wound that turns septic, making him realize how easy it is to die and be forgotten by everyone.
>>224018687>>224018816I'mma be honest with you, champ.>1) Having a great premise doesn't matter if you never actually write it down and finish the story.>2) Having a great premise doesn't matter, as long as you are a good storyteller with good charactersFocus more on the craft of writing, and don't autistically focus on the world-building/plotting.
>>224019660Oh, I know. I'm writing right now. I just have a lot of thoughts in my head. I'm not worldbuilding and putting in the plot. It's the other way around.
>>223996618I think he was shadow cancelled.Wasn't he stalking that girl from the show or some shit? But they couldn't outright fire him so they just told him to stay away from the actors.
>>223996670>Mr Frodo, you are so big!
>>224019688lol what
>>224019688I don't just mean during the HBO era, GRRM has been a regular at conventions since the 70s, I'm surprised no girls from back in the day haven't come forward talking about him
>>224019727What women were reading his sci-fi shit? Everyone knows women only read schlickfic.
>>224017380>>224014595>>224014522Why would the japs even pay him to do that?>yes this person zanzibart is the father of zanzibrat which sired 3 children named zanzerbart,zenzerbart and zenshibrat.How much do you reckon he got paid for this shit?
>>224019762>I am Zanzibrat, son of zanzerbart>Elden Ring is all
>>224019683Cool. I'd think hard on who your protagonist is, and how to distill your two posts into a concise 2-3 sentence pitch.
>>224019762>Why would the japs even pay him to do that?putting his name in the marketing
>>224019839Unknowingly cursed by the gods, a bright young mercenary squire seeks honor and glory. War is all he has ever known and death is his gift. All realms and their peoples will suffer in his wake.I already have him picture perfect in my head at the three major stages of his life, but the core of him is this little passage I have stuck in my head."War is your father and death is your mother. You are their dutiful son. I see no future, and I see no past. Honor and dishonor... You are blinding. The Ancient Ones see you but from when? I cannot cannot bear to look anymore!" Her withered hands jumped back, as if touching fire. His friend nudged him with a steel elbow. "At least this one isn't clawing her eyes out." "Fucking heretics." Shaking his head, the boy fitted his plate gauntlets back to his bracers. "Why do I even bother."
>>224006832Michael Moorcock completely misread Tolkien. He was closer to a crypto-anarchist.
>>224020019>cannot cannothow did this happenugh
>>224019858we all know he was responsible for all the incest
>>224007138Republican Spain was so ineptly evil that even with the support of both the USSR and United States with its opponents being pre-WWII Nazis it collapsed into infighting and atrocities and ultimately the USSR decided fuck it and decided to help rid the world of them.
>>224020019Don't get too attached to any of your ideas or drafts. Anything worthwhile that has even been completed as gone through several changes and iterations.
>>224017746The problem is that the people who go off formula because they think it makes them more creative or less routine rarely end up creating something as good. A new formula still needs to create something of worth you can't just simply be different and call it a day.
>>223996978Kek, nice catch
>>224020142Oh, I know. I'm more or less doing that right now. The story was more or less perfectly mundane originally and more from my own desire to see a historically accurate middle age story over something larping as the middle ages while being pop culture slop full of modern nonsense.>>224020144Just make something you want to make. Take formula for a suggestion, not a mandate. It's like obeying laws because they're the law instead of something that is good for people.
>>224003590Also in It Stephen King has 2 13yo boys give each other blowjobs for no reason.
>>224020243no one read the book
>>223996603Something Game of Thrones has that Lord of the Rings doesn't:>pornSomething Lord of the Rings has that Game of Thrones doesn't:>an ending to the story
>>224020320kek
>>224020179I feel like people these days really do get too hung up on genre labels. Like it's more important that their story fit a certain box than it does the actual story itself. If you've ever read a lot of fantasy or science fiction you'd be surprised how unlike the image you have for it it actually is. Science Fiction was a label that existed but was always a pretty broad term but the fantasy boxes didn't even exist till long after most of the more prominent writers died. Like "Sword and sorcery" was just something Lieber made up in the 70s.
>>223996603is this dude jewish?
>>224009338She was a porn actress in Germany.
>>224020320Bodied that tubby fool
>>224020374I seent her butthole
>>224020368I'm just tired of people using the middle ages as an aesthetic. Vehicles for more modern bullshit. Completely misunderstanding the time period and telling a story that simply has no fucking place in it.
>>224020320I guess they both finish in different ways.
>>224020452hehe
Why is this moron still coping over Tolkien?Bro wants to be the number one fantasy author so bad.
>>224021007Because GRRM is just one of many imitators who thought he could outdo him.And the dumbass thought muh moral complexity was the way to go.And he did it in a time he didn't actually understand.
>>224019762He was paid in fried chicken and compliments.
>>224021007GRRM is panicking since his legacy is forever tarnished. He's lashing out in his anger at himself for not finishing the books. He will be remembered for the disaster of a tv show ending that destroyed decades of his work all because he was too lazy of a gardener to finish the story in a timely manner.
>>224021007>Bro wants to be the number one fantasy author so bad.Then he should probably finish his book
>>224021183everyone didn't like his planned endingor the fact all those side plots dumb and dumber skipped probably get cut short as much as they cut them out entirely
>>224021168I really think he was probably waiting for the tv show to end it for him. I don't think he knows how to end it.
>>224021058He seems to be having trouble wrapping up his next book too. Probably doesn't have it in him anymore.
>>224020439>I'm just tired of people using the middle ages as an aesthetic.As far as I can tell, medieval fantasy has never really been about historical realism. It has always seemed to me, chosen for a handful of specific features.- Simplified, decentralized political structure- Legitimate frontiers and unexplored lands- Living in the remnants of an ancient civilization- Primitive weaponry suitable for hand-to-hand combat
>>224021183Yeah. He needs to shut up and get back to it. He'll still be behind Tolkien anyway though.
>>224021168Yeah I bet that last season fucked up everything for him, huh?Looks like he ran out of juice.
>>224021414>Simplified, decentralized political structureIt really wasn't.>- Legitimate frontiers and unexplored landsTo some degrees, yes. But this was typically an invading people to a settled land they were completely foreign to.>- Living in the remnants of an ancient civilizationRome had some things no one else figured out, even to this day, and great managerial ability but it wasn't like everyone left their shit alone or didn't learn from them.>- Primitive weaponry suitable for hand-to-hand combatThey never get this right. Because they don't understand armor or weapons. And no, swords actually weren't useless: they were one of the few weapons that survived plate coming into fashion. Because you could still half-sword the point into a visor or gap.
>>224021369>>224021427>Probably doesn't have it in him anymore.He never had it.
>>224021494kek
>>224021487>It really wasn't.It doesn't matter. I almost included a parenthetical in anticipation of this autistic point.Authors want a simplified, decentralized political structure and the popular conception of a feudal kingdom fits the bill exactly. People who think it needs to be a historically accurate examination of what fuedalism was really like miss the point completely.
>>224021487>They never get this right.Again, another thing that doesn't matter. The point isn't realistic portrayal of swords the point is NOT having a world where modern guns ("the great equalizer") and sophisticated technology form the basis of combat.
>>223997103Okey dokey Dr Pizza
>>224021817>>224021850I will reiterate my initial sentiment>>224020439>'m just tired of people using the middle ages as an aesthetic
>>224021850Won't stop their combat scenes from reading like shit.
>>224021414What about their tax policy????
