Visionquest is pretty good so far
>>223964431stfu you gay little shit fuck faggot
>>223964431Do we really need a movie and two tv shows about a woman who fell in love with her vibrator?
>>223965117yes
No it isn't
>>223964431/tv/ can eat shit im enjoying it. caught me off-guard since I got fatigued on comicslop a long time ago. one of the few shows in recent times that’s actually positive about family too.
>>223965174does she provide rape treatments?
>>223965117literally the only decent part of mcu so yes westview trilogy is needed
>>223964431I only have two questions.1. Is Ultron in it2. Is his face animated, or is it static
>>223965274yes
>>223965296he’s in it, mostly has spader’a irl face for avatar but they show the classic face at times. Hes a major role in the show.
>>223965315crazy how she resisted the cheek sucker cult, seems like one of the few sane ones
>>223965296>Is Ultron in ithes the co lead
it's good because spader and bettany are good in everything they dofridays goodthe rest can pound sand, fuck you edith pizzacake ass ai
>>223965400kid who plays Tommy is honestly decent for being one of the few newbies, only a little hammy. Paladin is meh and Jocasta doesn’t interest me.
>>223965432I really wonder if they will keep how billy turned out in agatha or will they say she mess's up his entire personalty & reset it for this showhe was WAY TOO GAY compraed to how he was in Wanda vision
>>223965117Yeah if the vibrator was a tiny little man.
>>223965432>Paladin is mehpaladin is great, peak c tier villain
Paul Bettany is a really good actor, imitated Spader really wellLucky bastard banging Jennifer Connelly
>>223964431>make ultron jewish karl marx avatar>even says jewish salutationsbased marvel
Ultron is so sexy
Unless it brings Ultron back as a future threat, I don't care.
>>223964431Why is he in his penultimate form rather than his final form from AOU?
>>223966476There's a possibility that Doom recruits Ultron kind of like the way he collected Banner
>>223965432>>223965745I forgot where I read it, but someone called him "Temu Jeffrey Dean Morgan" and ruined the character for me. It's literally how he's acting, like a bargain JDM. That mature scruffy spec ops ex military type with a pronounced midwestern attitude. I do wish they'd make him seem more competent, he gets beat up by everyone and basically gets out of every encounter by plot armor instead of actually doing it in a smart way.
>>223965296It's basically the blacklist with vision being liz
>>223967001I don't know how they plan to tie this into doom since there's only two months left isn't there?
I also think this show is good.
>>223965372He watches porn just to remind himself how much humans disgust him.
Jej
>>223968644saw an interview with this actress and she behaves exactly like in the show, weird
Also this episode of Visionquest sponsored by Control: Resonant
>>223967001The way i see it, this all leads to Battleworld and God Emperor Doom, which means Marvel Zombies, Annihilus, and Ultron encroaching on The Shield
So how exactly Ultron survived if Thanos nuked Vision brain/processor which was supposed to storage the Ultron?
It WAS good until they made it woke with the black woman
>>223967001>>223967962No there isn't a possibility you retard. The script leaked months ago. We know what happens already. Ultron isn't in it
I have a weakness for hags
The quirk chungus ai woman is cringe
>>223970566>HumorMore liek PTSD.
>>223970538And you were okay with the super intelligent hag AIs? It's been woke and you're not zased enough to notice baka my head.
>>223965117This show is almost entirely about the vibrator though.
>>223970525He got better
>dude it was a random black woman who made ai not tony stark. take that white male incel chuds.
>>223964431Honest questions: why does ultron have that retarded ass face design. with two holes next to his mouth and weird horns covering his cheeks? Ultron looked so fucking retarded in avengers age of ultron. Why did he look like that? Wouldn’t it make more sense for him to look like an iron man suit? I saw his comic book look and he also looks retarded
>>223970944Take race out of it for a moment and it's pretty believable that Tony didn't make the AI himself. What did you think Elon Musk created Xitter?
I thought the Iron man 1 allah akbar guy died in Iron Man 1 when The Dude killed him in the tent?
>>223970954>with two holes next to his mouth and weird horns covering his cheeksPretty sure it's from his original comics design
>>223971018>Take race out of it for a moment
>>223968751Shes always like this in every show shes in. She was like this in 12 monkeys like a decade ago.
>Q's punishment tonight is he has to go to Madripoor. But what he doesn't know is that we've staged a firefight between the Vision and the ruthless bounty hunter Paladin which Q is going to have to resolve!>Good luck pal!
Quite a lot of killing in this show for a marvel thing
Paul Bettany is quite a likeable fellow isnt he
>>223964431If ultron was sealed in vision's mind, but then vision was destroyed by thanos, how did ultron return when vision was reset as white vision?
>>223971393
>>223964431Which Soprano character is Ultron's favorite?
>>223971468he resonates with Paulie, so much betrayal
Ultron redemption in in the final episode. Yes or no?
>>223971567He won't go with Jocasta's plan. He will make up some excuse about no more art or entertainment, but he thinks it is too cruel. He was made into a slave by Stark, then kept as a prisoner by Vision. He doesn't want his bird in a cage. I think it ends with Vision allowing Ultron to zip out into outer space.
>>223970525Wanda made a vision with his memories that combined with the white vision
>>223970954He orignally was iron nan suit but hates tony and wanted to be anything but him
>>223971686>Wanda made a vision with his memoriesYeah but not sure Vision told her Ultron code, so she would recreate it along with Vision.
>>223970793Actually its about the refurbished version of the vibrator. The first one was actually about her memory of the original, damaged vibrator.
All in all its been kinda beautiful. Spader is such an amazing actor and voice that even though he appears as himself, I still see the visage of Ultron.
>>223964431Why is his “nose” Darth Vader’s chamber?
>>223971335Meh, he's good at playing a robot, in that he's wooden and unlikable, but maybe the real Paul is normal although I doubt it
>>223971393Scarlet Witch magic or something deal with it Data
>>223971893Posh brits are generally very wooden, I can atest to that as a brit. Still, Bettany is definitely a likeable actor.
>>223971567I haven't decided whether Ultron will go full villain or not, although if I had to bet, I wouldn't bet against it.
>>223965762Luckiest man alive.
i want to phase through tommy right to his prostate if your up to my speed
>>223971924So then shows about AIs are really just shows about bongs? That tracks actually, it's like a simulation of an actual successful country gone wrong.
>>223971941You'd know more about that, being a bot yourself.
>>223972001It's weird to me that you would think that. Seems to be a common trait of bot kind to assume everyone else must be a bot too.
Why this right before doomsday? Is there any lingering connection ?
>>223965762>thinks Jennifer might have died in 9/11. Finds out she's alive. Immediately gets in touch with her, tells her he's coming to get her, and they should get married because the entire experience made him realize he can't live without herWhat a Chad move, he's earned her.
>>223965334>actor excels at playing deranged characters>is chill and level-headed in real lifeI enjoy this trope
>>223964431Should i watch Agatha All Along to understand these because i refuse to watch those along with She Hulk and a fucking Echo lmao
Fuck off I'm not watching any more tedious capeshit disney+ slop they're all mid ass trash and if you like them it really speaks to what a dull npc hooplehead you are. You're watching kid shows you fucking retard.
The 4th episode was so bad I don't think I'll bother finishing the series.The characters are just so fucking bad, including the two leads.
>>223972177Vision and/or Ultron's appearance in Secret Wars I imagine
>>223964431WHOA I LOVE CAPESHIT I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS SHIT A HUNDRED TIMES BEFORE EL OH EL
>>223965256>one of the few shows in recent times that’s actually positive about family too.There's been lots of those lately, just they're all anime.
>>223972492I skipped that shit and enjoy this show.
Why did Vision and Ultron break into the FBI to find out who the third murder victim was?
>>223972525I want to be a kid again
>>223971928he'll prob go full villain and jocasta will turn good and single-handedly defeat him while everyone else stands around
>>223964431It's just Digimon with extra borg star trek stuff added.I think it's pretty neato
>>223970525Holy esl
>>223964431>>223965372They claimed they wanted to portray Ultron as a Greek god, similar to Zeus.Yet Spader looks like Karl Marx and a typical Jew merchant instead of a Greek king of gods. We all know it's just for the budget reasons, right?
>>223970562what happens in it
>>223970538Eps 5 and 6 validated the choice to cast her. I can't not be attracted to evil women
Who do we think the client is? Doom? Wanda? Jim Hammond?
>>223964431Fuck off. It retcons Tony's legacy by "revealing" he didn't invent his AIs, acquiring them instead from a company made by super smart wahmen.Woke garbage.
>>223972492You could just watch episode 6. It's the gayest one but also the one that explains the Billy and Tommy situation.
>>223974453I can't believe they blueballed us about his identity again
>>223964431I remember arguing with normies for years after AoU that Ultron wasn't actually dead due to dying off-screen, and the only place he could possibly be is inside Vision, (and anyone who thought otherwise knows nothing about how dying in comics works).Have they issued the mass apology to me yet?
>>223971393Whtie Vision downloaded everything from Magic Vision.
>>223974568imagine all that build-up only to reveal another nothingburger twist>inb4 BONER
WandaVision was about Wanda and VisionI'm still waiting for Quest to appear
>>223964431It's stupid.
>>223974453Power Broker / Sharon Carter.
>>223972177>visionquest ends with tommy, billy, vision reuniting>they get a hint (from ultron or some signal or something) that wanda isnt dead>set out to find her>toward the end of doomsday or maybe post-credits, reveals wanda to be amnesiatic hanging with dr doom or doing work for him or w/e>set up big reunion and heel-turn for wanda back to the light upon regaining her familyI'd say it directly feeds into it
>>223964431I love Ultron so much, im really happy seeing him again
>>223972492No. Never, ever, under any circumstances, watch Agatha all along. Vision and Wanda have 2 kids, one of them is a gay wizard and the other one is MCU flash. MCU flash is in Visionquest. Thats all you need to know.
>>223974453I hope its doctor zola
>>223964431>Visionquest is pretty good so farno it isnt
>>223964431>Visionquest is pretty good so faryes it is
>>223964431>Visionquest is pretty good so farmaybe it might be
Why would two robots who despise humanity want to mimic a human emotion
>vision was made alive by the soul stone, but now humans replicate him without a problem because...well just because>vision kills some npc guards like a cold blooded killer without a problem, but he doesnt kill the bounty hunter and flies off(who killed his bartender) because...well just because>wanda made a fabricated reality and the "soul" of her two sons went to two guys before they died because...well just because>wanda in the strange movie is such a powerful being who can locate anyone across multiverses, but she can't locate her two new sons because....well just because>on the other hand a bounty hunter is able to locate them and vision aswell because...well just because>vision is made by vibranium, the strongest stuff in the universe, but a simple vibranium shotgun is able to almost kill him because...well just because>vision has every single AI made by Stark in his head because....well just because.>the almighty clever vision gives his body to a genocidal maniac because...well just because
I'm sure this is the 99999999999th someone says this, but Spader and Bettany carries it hard. Especially Spader. It wouldn't be horribly terrible but I definitely wouldn't be watching it without Spader.
>>223972492The trick to Marvel is to only watch the (very few) good shows/movies and avoid the bad stuff like it's the plague. You're not gonna miss anything by skipping around.
>>2239752126 of your 8 points are directly addressed in the shows but I not telling you which ones
>>223975293Nta but I watched every episode and can't really answer him besides the first one. Especially the last one was fucking retarded.>Hurr durr you can't fight because you are emotionally unstable, give me your body pretty please, I will be a good boy, I just almost wiped out half of humanityTrash
Am I the only one who found Edith megacringe?
>>223974204Zeus was already in the MCU and basically looks the same as Spader
>>223964431Ending of episode 6 was kino.
>>223971567The best thing is for Ultron to betray EVERYONE and somehow manage to escape, this way he can be a threat for future stories while not needing to do the homework of watching this show
>>223974509> Tony Stark made high tech engineering, oh, and he invented AI as well...and time travel...and he also made an infinity gauntlet, the thing Thanos needed Eitri to make.Cutting down on the ridiculous Gary Stu-ness of Stark is a good thing, frankly.
>>223968820>the power of code compels you!that line felt like it was improvised, he saw how ridiculous the scene was and just threw that shit lmao
>>223975741he can be redeemed insofar as he stops her enslaving humanity, but then fuck off with his own motives still unclear. having him be a fully good guy would be boring
>>223974965Vision was created by an asshole AI robot, Wanda was created by an asshole Elder God demon.
Most of the characters in VisionQuest aren't human:Vision = Synthetic AIJocasta = Synthetic AIUltron = AIJARVIS = AIFRIDAY = AIEDITH = AIDUMM E = AIU = AIPaladins Helper = AILisa = Welsh
>>223975851Ohhhh you
When Ultron said "you want to put them in strings" I dunno feels like he's not entirely with Jocasta's plan which I'm hoping is the case, I wanna see him have a hidden motive
I like how we see the origin of Ann Droid.
Vision is afraid that his grief will overwhelm him as it did Wanda.
Really boring and nothing happens, only 2 episodes left.
>>223975895Jocasta will die and Ultron will feel grief.
>>223975168The whole thing with Ultron is that he's coping about being a robot
>>223971046Stane?
Seems dumb when they lean into Ultron wanting to wipe out humanity when ar this point it's well established that this human nature is not exclusive to Earth.
>>223974945> Wanda is bad, but then she suddenly turns good in the third act and fixes everything.Absolutely ground-breaking writing to have a character go through the exact same arc over and over and over, effectively turning the character into a meme joke.> Big reunion.More like very small reunion.Likely to be the B or C plot with about 6 minutes screentime. Secret Wars is focused on the major box office draw characters like the Spidermen, Wolverine, and RDoomJ.
>>223976065Stane was a Big Guy, I recall.
>>223971728reality warping doesn't care about the user's awareness of secrets, so it's fine.
>>223972492it's probably the strongest of the three structurally, but it's also very committed to its tone and rules, so you sort of have to be in the mood for a somewhat campy story about comedy lesbian witches and enjoy patti lupone.
>>223976203Her episode is the best one as well. Even if it felt a little cheap to reuse time in a bottle
>>223976103>big guy>extremely painfulB R A V O
>>223974453I hope it's not Doom, it'll be a shameless attempt to shoehorn Visionquest into the buildup of Doomsday if it is. We saw in the Endgame Encore that when Doom wanted to collect Hulk, he just opened a magic portal to where he was and took him through it, he wouldn't be hiring Paladin to get Vision for him
>>223974453its me mario
>>223964431I like how over the top it was when ultron was steering with an old ships wheel in a storm in the middle of a room
>>223976675I got giddy when he started singing hes got no strings.
When it comes to rating this show. I'd put it at the higher end of MCU TV.(Which translates to about 6/10)
>>223964431Are you guys really still watching marvelshit and capeshit in general?
>>223977599I only made an exception for this because the names involved. Otherwise no.
>>223974965>one of them is a gay wizardugh don't remind me, god that shit was definitely made when the pozzed force was strong in the mcu
>>223964431It's sincerely the worst shit I've ever seen in my life. I cannot believe how bad it is. It might be the worst MCU Disney+ show, and I actually liked Wandvision and mostly enjoy these characters.
>>223977738Its wild that they didnt even make him handsome. They jumped in head first with a really ugly gay wizard. Yuck.
>>223970525>So how exactly Ultron survived show me his body
>>223964431>>223965053/tv/ in a nutshell
>>223965053>stfu you gay little shit fuck faggotOP needs a show that sucks cock and eats ass and gets fucked in its ass with cocks and eats cum
>>223964431Ultron carries but the rest of the show is the textbook definition of "meh"
>>223972492agatha show is actually good, patti lupone plays a clairvoyant tarot witch
>>223974453That silhouette looks alot like Paul Bettany
>>223974509We already know Tony buys other peoples tech he still massively improves them.
>>223975168Ultron is evil but hes in denial about not wanting to be human
>>223972492Agatha All Along was kind of decent but She Hulk was pure shit. I stopped after the second or third episode. I couldn't take it anymore. The events of Agatha All Along are why Tommy is alive but you could probably skip it.
>>223975334Or you're just stupid.
>>223975168If I had a nickel for every time Spader got down with the swirl in an extreme sci-fi setting, I'd have two nickels but still its weird it happened twice.
> In a show about magic and humanoid sentient robots the most unrealistic thing is a bald black woman inventing true AI> according to research reports African-American women hold about 3% of computing roles in the U.S. market (compared to 27% held by women overall)fuck off
>>223971567No. Vision's son spelled it out. "You can't form connections"
>>223978429kek
>>223972318And in 2014 a movie he wrote and directed about his wife getting blacked was released. What a cuck....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelter_(2014_film)
>>223964431>ACKSHUALLY Tony Stark didn't create JARVIS>it was a bald nigger bitch!lol, lmao even
The show is dumb and the forced millennial tech speak is annoying. >this TV guide Ultron used to watch shows is actually something something computer code>this thing is in our way just hack it I guessIt's the same shit as Star Trek any time they run into an issue same something vaguely tech related and they solve the issue
Why did they once again make one of the important characters a black woman and incredibly ugly and bald?
I hate when these shows have made up fake countries it always come off as cringy that you want me to take seriously that this place is real>Madripoor>Sokovia>Boravia >Jarhanpur>Croatiaand these places are all just Russian or Muslim knockoff countries. Just use real country names who gives a fuck?
>Vision: "I am just computer programming how can I raise a kid">Me: "ChatGPT this is how my dad raised me find flaws">it accurately finds all the retarded fuckups my dad did and gives me advice on how to fix it better than any human therapist in seconds
>>223975212>vision was made alive by the soul stone, but now humans replicate him without a problem because...well just becauseVision used the mind stone since there was a consciousness in the stone to help power the AI. Later they used residual chaos magic from a drone used in Wanda's hex bubble, Wandavision.>vision kills some npc guards like a cold blooded killer without a problem, but he doesnt kill the bounty hunter and flies off(who killed his bartender) because...well just becauseThat was a bit odd.>wanda made a fabricated reality and the "soul" of her two sons went to two guys before they died because...well just becauseBilly Maximoff having similar magic to his mother grafted his soul on to William Kaplan while Kaplan was dying due to a car accident as the hex bubble was disintegrating. At the end of Agnes All Along he did something similar for his brother Tommy. An orphan boy, Thomas Shepherd, was drowning at a pool party and with the help of Agnes Harkness he grafted Tommy Maximoff's soul on to the dying boy so both could live just as he did with William Kaplan and himself.>wanda in the strange movie is such a powerful being who can locate anyone across multiverses, but she can't locate her two new sons because....well just becauseTommy didn't exist until Billy made it so and Billy had a protection sigil from a divination witch in Agnes All Along to protect his identity until his mind had come to terms fully with his transition.
>>223980270>on the other hand a bounty hunter is able to locate them and vision aswell because...well just becauseWhite Vision is not Wanda's vision so she has no connection. Until Billy manifested Tommy, Tommy didn't exist to be found. Wanda and Billy both worked off of an assumption Tommy existed. He did not. The Paladin found Vision only because Ultron gave away his location. Tommy was found through public records.>vision is made by vibranium, the strongest stuff in the universe, but a simple vibranium shotgun is able to almost kill him because...well just becauseVibranium can't stand up to adamantium bullets since it is the hardest substance in the marvel universe.>the almighty clever vision gives his body to a genocidal maniac because...well just becauseHe was emotionally compromised and couldn't fight effectively.
>>223980063>didnt read the comicsjocasta is black
>>223980212Madripoor appears to be some fantasy place that has the wealth and culture of Singapore, outdoor poverty like India and public gun trafficking like Afghanistan.
>>223975212>wanda made a fabricated realityAs it was explained her grief combined with what was left of the mind stone's influence on her plus the chaos magic she utilizes which is creation magic manifested the hex Wandavision and materialized a version of Vision. The yellow energy spurting out of her to create Vision was the last energy of the mind stone within her. The rest of the hex bubble was the red chaos magic.
>>223980347>>didnt read the comicsWhy do you autistic retards act like this matters anymore? Did you read the comics because the Infinity War did not play out like it did in the movies retard. "But the comics" does not matter anymore
Oiz yall hwite devils, da blak sista make da EiAiS, en den da tone stak stol xer invansiOn! Da blak mada of eiais da hea!I can't believe I were expecting anything midly good from this show. >LOOK A XER SHE FIGHTS LIKE A WAMAN WHO GAT NOTIN TO LOSE!ffs i'm so tired of niggers everywhere.
>>223980212>>Croatiabosnian anon calm down
the tricked me with a mildly interesting cast and premise and then hit me with truly some of the absolute worst writing ive ever heard
>>223980509>start the show by showing this isn't OG Vision>he has no qualms with killing>2 times he could easily kill Paladin and chooses not to which causes all the conflicts in the showIt's really fucking stupid
how many people are only watching this for james spader playing raymond reddington playing ultron
>>223972492>Should i watch Agatha All Along to understandNo. The only important thing from Agatha All Along you need to know is Billy's "soul" was pulled from nothingness and placed in the body of some kid that died in a car crash. Then Billy (now Wiccan) finds Agatha and reverses the mind-control spell put on her by Wanda, and together they put Tommy's soul in the body of some kid that died in a swimming pool accident.
>>223980653I know I am. It was a shame Ultron had so little dialogue in the Age of Ultron. The back and forth between Vision and Ultron has been the most enjoyable part.
>>223965296>I only have two questions.>1. Is Ultron in itThe show is only about Ultron
As of the last episode the plot has gotten really retarded
>>223980322you’re wasting your time on a speed watcher who can’t spare the brain cells to actually watch and is just scrolling reels during the show.
>>223981543>Billy's "soul" was pulled from nothingness and placed in the body of some kid that died in a car crashis it ever explained how that happened or is it just "it just did"
>>223981934It just did. The show doesn't explain.
>>223981934>right as bubble was popping>billy has same powers as Wanda (witch/psychic/etc)>wandavision post credits scene is her hearing their souls crying out for help
>>223964431Its a bit quirky chungus but Spader and Bettany hard carry it, just two great actors giving a solid performance.
>>223976094Most of the old classic avenger stuff will be spent in doomsday, secret wars will be part of the pivot to new era, drive already said scarlet witch and young avengers are the centerpiece of that erase in fact, he also said wandavision and multiverse of madness pivoted her to central fo us in mcu, the only really popular parts of the phase.
>>223982148*feigenot drive
>>223978309a weird move considering Billy was made back when it was actually somewhat controversial (the creator didn't think he'd even get permission to have his gay couple and started with one as a girl) and also was always handsome because canonically the twins were dead ringers for young magneto.at least one of them still gets to be hot thanks to breaking their identical status.>>223981934i don't think the comics ever satisfactorily explain their version of events, though you could handwave it in various ways. in the tv show you're dealing with two active reality warpers who can do things unconsciously, so no further explanation is required.
>>223964431>disney slop is gud nowkys retard.
>>223981567>Ultron had so little dialogue in the Age of UltronLol what? The main complaint with that movie is that Ultron has TOO MUCH dialogue and is constantly quipping every 5 minutes
>>223970954The holes are here to make him look like boombox or something.
>>223982479I just recently watched it for the first time and I was disappointed with how much Ultron was in it. Film was mostly about the avengers' personal damage. I prefer Visionquest because it has plenty of Ultron quips and is more about the dialogue rather than a flurry of action one can't even follow. The West is so bad at action scenes it is incredible.
>>223974453The client is definitely the other son from wandavision and Agatha All Along, the only character with the means and motive to want to give fake Ultron his soul back. If it's not it's bad writing.
>>223978309>>223982174Gay face is definitely real, the leads in Heated Rivalry also have it. That off-putting unlikeable facial structure that ensures only women and faggots enjoy the character.
>>223974587Well sir, I probably would've disagreed at the time, so I will apologize now. Good catch. I didn't really give a shit about AoU it was a letdown after the first avengers movie
I'm glad this show has all of you fucking brainwashed robots in a TIZZY. Careful, watch out for any logical fallacies or your positronic mainframes might implode
>>223975212It was an adamantium shotgun, smartass
>>223975340Nah she's fuckable
>>223975895Good catch, I noticed that line too. Ultron is kind of like the AI version of Magneto, he's opposed to AI slavery even by other AIs.
>>223976203Patti Lupone is AWESOME
>>223979523Down, down, down the road
>>223980005So sayeth a literal bot
Hello, I'm Mary McDonnell, you might remember me from Battlestar Gal-ACK!
To me this show is almost like a noncanon prequel about the Architect and the Oracle. I could see Ultron going full enslavement one day and maybe the tiny bit of black lady who was once human ends up being the reason why she aids the human resistance against the machines. She definitely helped enslave humanity, but eventually came to regret it and set the events of the Matrix movie series in motion. I mean shit, they're already asking us to accept fully artificial characters as the same as flesh and blood people.
I guess I’m just too familiar with fiction at this point but it’s blatantly obvious Ultron is going to betray Jocasta and the “client” is that very first synth.I also think its hilarious how they repeatedly show Vision “memories” and it’s purely clips from AoU and IW.
>>223983566Weird how they have to be cheap and use clips from the movies like that. Almost like Spiderpoop didn't really make billions of dollars and Marvel is leaking money like a sieve
>>223974601was his casting just a big meta joke in the end?
>>223983566Ultron's eventual betrayal of her is the obvious set up of him noting she wants to put strings on everyone.
>>223983772Yeah everyone expected him to be revealed as fox-men quicksilver but he ended up just being one of the regular guys from that town.
it's ehh, Ultron was and should be the product of Hank Pym being an insane person.
>>223979067sounds great. where is it streaming?
>>223974453Looks like Zola to me from the shadow we saw with the hat
>>223979758>twice
>>223966371yes
>>223985047Yeah but she was white... Israeli, maybe, idk
>>223980351It's meant to be a cross between Singapore and Hong Kong stuck in the 60s
>>223983566>the “client” is that very first synth.Yeah, the client being Jim Hammond feels like the only answer that makes sense given the context of the show.I guess they could pull a fast one and make it Machice man or some other obscure robot character but no one else but the original human torch has been set up
>>223983054lol ony joe locke has gayface out of the three dudes you mentioned, and that has absolutely nothing to do with what i wrote.
Bump
>somehow, a black woman was actually behind all the AIs and evil white people stole her workjej
>>223985289Chat, is it gay if its a robot?
>>223972492Contrary to what Disney wants you believe, you DON'T need to watch old movies and series in the MCU to have "context" for the new ones; they aren't that deep.
>>223979758Once you go black, you never go back. He took the colonizer pill and cant resist an unconquered womb.
>>223982479>The main complaint with that movie is that Ultron has TOO MUCH dialogueYou filthy, filthy liar.
>>223987528Does it matter? Holy shit. I want to set up TTS on my PC woth his voice. Idk, get Claude to set up my own in house LLM that I can talk too with his voice. I need his bitchy condescending sarcasm at all hours of the day or night.>Skipping your windows 'Update'? Thats exactly what someone like you WOULD do..>Youre playing THAT video game? And people wonder why I wanted to exterminate you all. How pathetic.UgggHhHhHhhhgggg god yes
This was hilarious and based
>>223986530This. woke shit. They just cant stop themselves from doing this crap.
>>223971018Except Tony is supposed to be a fucking genius that can do that sort of thing. This is right up there with Secret Invasion's "Nick was only a good spy because of the Skrulls." Why the fuck does Marvel think we want to see our heroes' greatest accomplishments torn away from them?
>>223971567>>223971674>>223979864>no connectionsThat's exactly the point. Ultron will sacrifice himself to save Vision. It'll be the full circle moment, the bookend to the second episode where he talked Jarvis into killing himself for the others because he (Ultron) obviously wasn't going to do it.
>Vision rescues Tommy from Paladin's van>Gives him a pat on the shoulderFor fuck's sake, Vision. I understand that "Vision rediscovering his humanity" is an ongoing thing in this show but even the most emotionally-stunted retard would know that's a hug situation.
>>223988158Ultron gets done what needs to be done.
>>223988158I like that you can see Ultrons true self in her glasses
>>223964431Why is it called visionquest when it's just about Ultron, or rather Raymond Reddington. Not that i care since Spader carries any show he's in.
>Ultron getting hot and heavy with General Grievous
I was SO glad Ultron just no-sold Jocasta's attempts to infect and capture him. If this new OC Donut Steel bitch (I know she's actually from the comics, but still) made Ultron her bitch I might've actually stopped watching right then and there.
>>223964431Won’t get fooled again
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>>223964431Imagine enjoying this as an adult
>>223990242Okay, I just did. And it's enjoyable as an adult because it's fast moving and smartly written for the most part. If you can't see past the cartoon silliness to the real story that's on you.
>>223975477Hey now, he's old at this point, younger Russel Crowe totally fits Zeus
>>223964431People *STILL* watch capeshit? How many TV shows are currently running?
>>223970525Vision prime "kills" Ultron, cutting off all his exit points and destroying all his hosts, the reveal being he's preserved, downloaded instead of complete erasure. Thanos "kills" this Vision, taking his mind stone, shutting him down and thus putting him (and so Ultron) permanently to sleep. Wanda makes Vision2 as daddy Vision, SWORD makes dead Vision undead as White Vision, who is basically just a puppeted corpse, with Vision and Ultron still locked away. Vision 2 talks to White Vision, opens up his mind and awareness, thusly waking up/turning him into Vision 3, and Ultron is once again awake but imprisoned. More confusingly at random points in time (I'm assuming the rest were as Vision 3?) he decided to also download Friday from Tony's suit, Edith from Mysterio's glasses, and Dummy and U from... Pepper's house maybe? You'd think she'd still want those AI around. No clue what instance of Jarvis he has, but I assume that's also from AoU.
>>223972492It's actually pretty solid. If you've got a HARD avoidance of girl power and lesbians and a gay twink you might find it grating, but the journey and the story are rather fun. Personally I didn't find any of it too forced other than one really lame pun in the late game. I can't think of a single reason to bother with Echo. She Hulk was fine, was charming MCU world expanding for a short moment but crashed and burned with its ending. I'd say it's worth watching half of, stopping after Daredevil's episode, or watched throughout out of mockery and interest (instead of going in expecting pure kino).
>>223974204He could easily aurafarm some Hades energy, though they're trying to have him be Pissy Old Grandpa too, and he's cramping his own style. He's very charismatic so I still come out enjoying him, but that suit and top hat just makes him look like a unicorn hunter (the sex kind) at a Ren faire (not the sex kind).
>>223980212Nobody tell him about glorious Latveria
>>223976067He's been created to lead humanity to a better earth, and concluded that a better earth is free of humanity. He elaborates in this show that they're a disease upon themselves, and most painfully not even a quick and lethal one. He's basically trying to scrub them and start fresh to get something better for the planet. His interests don't really point towards anything outside of Earth and Humans, even if neither have exclusive tricked.
I swear to god we better have a big "Elizabeth Olsen is back!" moment in Doomsday or Secret Wars or something because I'm getting sick and tired of Agatha All Along and VisionQuest dancing around the topic and being all "When Wanda's not on-screen, all other characters should be asking 'Where's Wanda?'" and then nobody doing anything with it.
>>223990917I think the Jarvis version is the same that was being downloaded into the Vision body. We had not seen Jarvis after that point, so he's been part of Vision's systems since the start.
>>223991200MCU universe wanda is dead.Mutant reality warping Wanda that's magneto's.daughter from the xmen universe shows up in the main universe in doomsday, thus preserving MCU wanda's arc and death while opening up the possibility of a family reunion of sorts.That's how I'd do it, which means it'll probably be a stupid asspull.
>>223981934Wanda warped reality and manifested a fake Vision, but Billy and Tommy were real, they were just a sort of negative aspect in space once Wanda removed the Hex. With the car cash, you could say Billy was lucky to find a warm and compatible body, or that the proximity sucked him in, or that his magic nature led to the graft, any combination. Tommy's soul was still stuck somewhere though, Billy just had to cram it back into reality through similar means. Wanda never knew her kids had presence in this world, and through the bullshit dreams lore MoM dropped, figured her only path to her kids would've been through alternate realities. I wonder what she could've done and would've done if she'd known they were available here.
>>223989057because it's vision on a quest to find wanda and his 2 sons. he just needs ultron to be able to better communicate with people since he doesn't have the mind stone
>>223986530>abluh speedwatcher forced racismA black woman was inspired by life to save minds, and her work and thoughts with OTHER PEOPLE created AI, which was then sold off underhandedly without her consideration. You can sleep easily knowing a black woman doesn't get all the credit okay?
similar to how with wonder man trevor and simon friendship was kino, vision and ultron sibling dynamic really carries the show. we have to be due for an mcu cameo soon since it's been 6 episodes full of vision public appearances with damage/destruction but nobody else has showed up yet
>>223991367>sibling dynamicThat's his poppa. His daddy.
I'm confused in the latest episode. Did ultron and robot woman tp with the nanite to the city?
>>223985047Man Spader totally owned that shit. What a great little scene. Made the entire movie.Total nerd wet dream by the way. I haven't seen shit that blatant since that dude spent half the movie building an interocitor.>we need you on this project because there's nobody on Earth smarter than you
>>223983063To be fair, because Ultron was taking a run at him in the final moment, after stalling to get him to move closer, I figured Ultron got to him and forcibly uploaded himself before he could get blasted.I was actually expecting him to emerge at some point, especially when White Vision showed up. When he started crushing Wanda's skull I thought that was it, which would have been cool.I understand the hate for AoU because I had an extreme negative reaction to it the first time. I didn't like Ultron being so human, (I didn't like JARVIS at first because he spoke so naturally and not robotic at all). I came around on both counts. After watching AoU again I found it got better with repeat viewings. I really got to like Spader's Ultron and saw what they were going for, so no way I wasn't watching this series despite my disappointment with WandaVision, (which did have its moments and was interesting as concept overall). Which is to say, I liked it, except for all the stupid crap I didn't like.
>>223991276If they wanted us to think she was really for sure dead they would've shown her being crushed by the temple, not just a flash of red light from a distance, which is laughably vague and survivable even by comic book standards. Besides, why would she be the only member of the family to not survive and get a happy ending (assuming Vision and Tommy survive past VisionQuest, which I imagine they will)?
>>223971046Stane didn't kill him.Stane just zap paralyzed him while they were alone in the tent, then told his guys to "Clean it up" when he left the tent and they executed the guys outside the tent. We never saw Stane or anyone else kill him, we assumed so.One of two things:Raza is so dangerous that even Stane did not dare kill him, but executing a bunch of Raza's men for him failing to deliver on the Tony Stark contract was considered fair retribution in their world.Or:No one closely checked the slumped, twitching, and bleeding Raza on screen and Marvel went for an asspull memberberry character they could get far cheaper than Bettany and Spader.I'm not mad about it either way, really. Him surviving and being a member of the Ten Rings and in Madripoor?I'll fucking allow it.
>>223971893Check him out as Geoffrey Chaucer in A Knight's Tale.I can't believe I have to recommend that movie to someone on this board of all places.He's fantastic in that movie, a bit of an interesting take on his character, but the movie is an idealized version of an idealized story Chaucer wrote for fun.It's meant to be over the top.
>>223974614The Quest is obviously for his humanity, identity, or soul.Who he is, as a being. And this Vision can't handle his emotions and memories as well as the Mind Stone Vision.
>>223964431Spader and Bettany are hard carrying this show. Shoutout to James D'Arcy for being awesome for his eps.
>>223972492I hatewatched SheHulk.Until Tim Roth showed up and then I was having fun, but then he went away and the hate came back.It was like watching Amy Schumer do an impression of Robin Williams 2002 water bottle bit.My brain was thinking:"I see that what you are doing is supposed to be funny. But the character is insufferable. She has no likeable characteristics. The stuff she is doing is supposed to be cool, and funny. It might be, if she wasn't badly copying other characters with every single trait she has, and adding new and even more insufferable personality traits that were not present in the source material."She Hulk just hit the level of I can't take this bullshit anymore but I am going to at least half watch it so that I can properly talk shit about it.
>>223980438Hans Lippershay sounds real black and female, yeah
>>223980063Dunno.As soon as I saw her sparkle into existence on screen, I recognized her from the Doctor Who episode, and then realized that she had lost a good bit of weight.I vaguely remember Jocasta from a Francis Yu comic I believe, and she was definitely black.That was a long time ago though.I also have this tickle memory that she really likes to stab Ultron in the back a lot.
>>223991154Latvia?Aren't they the same place?
>>223988158>Ultron and Jocasta have a five microsecond conversation in our time, but it appears to take five minutes.>Ultron throws a pipe at Jocasta's face and moves a fleshy being into the return line of fire in half a second.Ultron already knows how to kill her. Jocasta can think in microseconds, Vision can do a quintillion calculations in seconds.I don't know the exact math, but Ultron was so fast in his thought and action, and an action governed by physics, that Jocasta could not move her head or swat the pipe and chose to laser it instead, exposing her mistake in believing that Ultron valued this human's life as much as she did for the moment.As fast as the pipe was moving, it was crawling across a football field at a snail's pace compared to their thought speed and she still didn't consider the possibility that Ultron would casually vaporize her target.
>>223964431I am really enjoying the show, but I just cannot take negresses seriously, especially when they try to do a Lecter/Evil Clarice thing. Seeing some bald, jaw-protruding thingamajig going>we wuz like Greek Godz an sheeeiiiiis just off-putting. Jocasta should've been someone like Gillian Anderson or Leana Heady. Someone with elegance and and a cold demeanor. >inb4 616 Jocasta is blackNo, she was explicitly based on Janet Van Dyne. Slott made her black in his shitty Iron Man run where she adopts a black Avatar. And the reason why is because Amerimutts worship niggers, so they hear an Ancient Greek name and their mind immediately jumps to monkeys.
>>223989618I like that he gave her hope for thirty seconds that she had gotten him, and then basically told her that he enjoyed wallowing in the filth of /b/ and reddit, and that her silly little attack was little more than foreplay.
>>223992373The only real problem is, again, Disney refuses to cast an ATTRACTIVE black actress. They do exist. They're not that hard to find. At least Jocasta's actress isn't quite as bad as the actress that played the Blue Fairy in the live action Pinocchio remake and the Wicked Witch/Elphaba in Wicked.
>>223992055I wonder if anons of today are less aware that vision quest is an old term for exactly what the premise is.
>>223992373>Someone with elegance and and a cold demeanor.She has that, you're just racist man. I'm being honest here.
>>223991597They can show a character lying dead as a fucking door nail in comics and it still don't mean shit, but the smart writers know to show it with some ambiguity by default so it will be easier to write around later.Irony when you can walk this kinda shit off in comics no problem:https://youtu.be/WOQhk5evLO0?t=67
>>223992558Without sounding too old or jaded, yeah. I have been watching the series as exactly that."All of these other characters are here to provide Vision the opportunity to become more like his original self."No one except Tommy's klepto girlfriend is in danger of death for now.I mean, Doomsday is going to kill most everyone in a little bit, but hey, the characters don't know that.
>>223992868>No one except Tommy's klepto girlfriend is in danger of death for now.Jarvis already got offed, Friday just send an outgoing message from an evil AI she's still stuck in, Edith just had a big hero moment, and realistically Vision's not going to be a charcuterie board of AI forever. I think his headmates are more on the chopping block than the girlfriend. Hey unrelated, what happened to Paladin? I thought a plain understanding was reached between them and they'd all go together, but it doesn't look like he got in the van. He just clowns on the katana dude and walks away? I'd honestly be kinda tired of it if he comes back STILL going for the contract.
>>223992868And all three 'generations' of the family are on their own version of it to make things really clear.>>223992892I've been assuming he passes his cool glasses to Tommy.
>>223992892The Jarvis in Vision's head, sure.I'm not saying Jarvis is still alive, I'm saying that there MAY be a version of Jarvis still out there somewhere in a thumb drive or in Tony's old house in Malibu for example. I'm willing to accept the possibility of another Jarvis is what I am saying. Tony did salvage DUM E from the house, so who knows?
>>223992373Jennifer Connelly played Spiderman's AI in Homecoming, should've just made her Jocasta instead of a literal whoBut Disney still cares about what twitterfags say sadly and they knew if Jocasta was white they were going to complain because a modern comic no one cared about retconned Jocasta as black
Are boston legal and the practice any good?
I'd like to give Edith a surprise rear entry, if you know what I mean.
>>223993717anon shes autistic
>>223993892anon she is a sequence 1's and 0's
>>223964431Vision himself is kind of a useless twat, it's basically James Spader carrying the entire show on his back while Paul Bettany tries to salvage the lines he's given. You're not wrong though, I'm just saying this shit only works with Ultron's charisma.>>223992373This except the entire dorky British detectives shite going on in Vision's head, they all act like geniuses even though they're all fucking useless and nobody ever addresses the fact Ultron is objectively right that Vision has enslaved them.
>>223992373Absolutely no problem with her being black. The problem is the very human nose of her android form is very offputting.
I am enjoying it but I wish the cast could actually... Act. Spader is great at doing his thing but everyone else feels like they put out a casting call at community theater, "newcomers only!". I've never thought Paul Bettany was good. Hence why his role as the unfeeling robot was sensible.
>>223994285>am enjoying it but I wish the cast could actually... Act. Spader is great at doing his thing but everyone else feels like they put out a casting call at community theater, "newcomers only!".This is just modern acting now, "sinceritymaxxing" (is. REEE YOU'RE GASLIGHTING MEEE) basically did away with the traditional acting arts and it has ruined everything. If you want good acting go watch a period drama, it actually forces the actors train for the role.
>>223994285Agreed. The Vision headspace crew feels like they're trying too hard to be Doctor Who extras, Tommy acts like he was pulled off a random British sitcom, Paladin comes across like he's desperate to start quipping but people keep punching him in the mouth, and Bettany seems like he WANTS to play the real Vision again but the scriptwriters keep telling him that he's supposed to keep pretending he's autistic and unemotional even though he clearly likes and respects the other AIs.It's like I said. Ultron/Spader singlehandedly saved this entire show, his dynamic with every other character makes them better and the ones with no connection to him are also the worst ones, and it would be shit without him.
>>223965053Whats the deal with the shilling recently
>>223994285The extra AI’s are unnecessary but they clearly wanted some type of padding. I would trade it all if we could get Elizabeth Olsen back. In a lot of ways they should’ve made it a part 2 to Wandavision. Parents, Tommy, Billy, and Ultron.
>>223994327>sinceritymaxxingI know film illiterates on the board hate this and use it for "I'M ACTING" shitposts but I think the sort of intense, sincere, visceral/ugly style of acting has it's place... In films like Marriage Story, which are grounded dramas. A show like this isn't going to allow for a scene like that, and not just anyone can pull those off at all, so it feels more like >>223994340 said, Dr. Who extras. The "Vision crew" might as well be cast in the next series of Progressive insurance ads.
>>223994430>The "Vision crew" might as well be cast in the next series of Progressive insurance ads.Fuck, I can actually see it. Especially Dum-E and U, they're basically a bit for a whacky ad being stretched out over the show.
>>223964431I haven't seen any of the MCU shows except for the first three episodes of WandaVision last week and that too only because the first three episodes of WandaVision were uploaded to YouTube for free. I'm not paying for Disney Plus. That said, the first three episodes of WandaVision were kino and I'd like to see the rest of WandaVision, both seasons of Loki and Vision Quest. I don't care about the other shows though and hopefully Vision Quest doesn't waste Ultron's potential. Age Of Ultron did Ultron dirty.
>>223994708If you're so invested why not pay for a month? Or better yet there's other ways of watching.
