how the hell do you guys take longer than a 2 week trip? After 2 weeks it cost more than rent in most cities and thats not even accounting for transport and food cost. Airbnb looks cheaper for longer stays but then you need to deal with rules, insane host, and "cleaning fees".
>>2906445You don't. The American hotel market is like sports arenas - trying to provide you with the least value for your dollar. It's why, Trump wrecking oil markets aside, you're almost always better off in Europe or Asia for anything longer than a week.
>>2906445Go off seasonShop for dealsStay in a town over and driveDon't stay in high end if you don't need it200/night isn't bad when you realize most fast food jobs start at fucking 15/hr these daysIf I am vaca'ing with friends have them chip in, gf had to chip in some portion tooAlso most Americans don't blow their entire 2 weeks in one go, what most smart people do is fluff a company/federal holiday or around similar events. When I only got 2 weeks vaca I would fluff it against a 3 day weekend where I would drop a day off on Thursday and a day off on Monday giving me 5 days off for the "price" of 2. Do that a few times through the year and it goes a long way. I'd just drive up to flagstaff or short hop flight on whatever cheapo ticket to LA for some event back then. Weekenders throughout the year >>>>> 2 weeks in FL just to say you did 2 weeks off. I get 4 weeks PTO now but never use it since I work remote and my boss just doesn't care as long as my project deadlines are hit.Canadians do mostly the same
>>2906450Flying to Asia still burns 2 days of just air travel most people don't want to use, not to mention if you factor in most travel costs normies would do with flights it's more expensive. Ain't no one with a gf going to take zipair to Japan and sleep in a 2x4 hostel pod to save a few cent on the yen to $.
u deal with insane airbnb hosts and sketchy old homest. poor
Canadas even worse. Vancouver last time I looked up saw 120 a night for a hostel and 300 a night for a shitty hotel. You'd have to be insane or retarded to visit canada
>>2906445No competition from hostels
>>2906445Americans have money. Simple as. The ones who don’t have money don’t travel.
In what world are these expensive? Let me know when you’re spending $3k a night.
>>2906516You have never spent remotely close to $3k a night doing anything. Shut the fuck up
>>2906524bodied that bitch
>>2906495You must've been looking at last-minute bookings during peak demand holidays ir something. I see hostels throughout Vancouver $37-64 per night for a random October weekday.
I averaged $58 per night for lodging across America on my last trip. Look for discounted rates; only suckers pay the upfront walk-in price.
>>2906524Unfortunately I have. Corinthian in London, Ritz in Paris (so my wife could get a leather appointment), and Cheval Blanc in St Barth.
>>2906530You were staying in crackdens in shithole areas
>>2906551They were nicer inside than most $20 hotels I stayed at in India. And the streets though negro infested and sometimes littered were still much more well-kept than Indian streets.
>>2906573>the only way he can make them sound good is to compare them to indiagrim
>>2906526I was looking in CAD out of interest locally. Canadian peso is super weak relative to the USD but in Canada it is untenably expensive
>>2906593Hotels in Canada and USA and western Europe are filled with rapefugees or homeless druggies paid for by the citizens of those countries
>>2906534> leather appointmentelaborate please
>>2906854The Ritz Paris is know for getting guests appointments at Hermes so they can purchase a bag.
>>2906575If you want to stay anywhere vibrant and downtown in America with little shops and attractive people walking around, then yeah the prices are going to soar above $100. I stayed in downtown Fort Collins once and paid $160 for a room at a historic Main Street hotel there. It was fun to get stoned and ride the hotel bicycle around on the lovely bike paths, but goddamn, that 11 AM checkout time arrived way too quickly.
One of the biggest causes of high hotel prices in America is the fact that every municipality sees lodging as a cash cow for tax revenue. Locals love raising taxes on lodging because it is one of the few forms of taxation which does not impact their budget. Often 17% or more taxes are levied on every night's room rate, and this doesn't even count all the other forms of taxation that hotel owners pay out of pocket, like business licenses, state income tax and property tax. You could say that easily 50% or more of a hotel's price goes directly into the government's pockets.
>>2906623>Hotels in Canada and USA and western Europe are filled with rapefugees or homeless druggies paid for by the citizens of those countriesThat was during the biden era and now only in shithole coastal cities.
>>2906445Looks fine to me. Are you from a third world country?
>>2907597On this board we like to travel for months, not take ten day cuckations where cost is no object. Nobody wants to spend $2000+ in a month just to sleep indoors in the most mediocre generic forgettable properties.
>>2906954Its everywhere and still going onhttps://abc13.com/post/new-homelessness-program-uses-nearby-hotels-help-temporary-housing/19718772/>Zohran Mamdani’s administration has approved a nearly $1.9 billion contract with the hotel industry to house homeless families in New York City hotels over the next three years.
>>2906880what do you consider to be a waste of money?
>>2907619>thisfr. miss me with that bullshit.
>>2907636Cars over $150k
>>2907621Anon read,>and now only in shithole coastal cities.GEE wonder what jew york is
>>2907651>Anon read,>>and now only in shithole coastal cities.>GEE wonder what Kansas is
A bunk at Viajero Hostel in Miami Beach can be had for as low as $16 after tax when booked direct. Miami really is the best city for cheap hostelfagging in the USA. Only downside is, everybody despises low-value males there.
>>2907647strange as i would've thought cars would have a larger residual marginal utility (as exemplars of precision machinery) than handbags and not reaching diminishing returns until north of 250k.
>>2907677Anon your post is literally about new york a sanctuary city. Kansas has basically axed all that shit and moved them to section 8's or better got them the fuck out.
>>2907782and are better stores of wealth than handbags as well futher justifying expenditure
>>2906445I take my car, and I sleep exclusively at rest stops and Park n' rides, for free
>>2907784There are homeless and illegals being housed in hotels in every state. That's why hotels are so expensive
>>2908712Homeless and Illegals being the cause of hotels being pricey isn't the sole reason. Did/does it affect some areas? sure but as anon pointed out those are in shitty dem cities.OP is also just looking at average prices, so it could be taking into the 2000/night penthouse room in these places. Lots of those cities you can find sub 100/night hotels easily.
>>2908713>Lots of those cities you can find sub 100/night hotels easily.Only in shitholes in USA. Not decent places. Anti discrimination laws, housing criminals for free, labor laws, welfare available all makes USA hotels very expensive. Why can I get a nice hotel with breakfast in Tokyo or Istanbul for $50 and it's $250 in NYC? There's not one city in USA as cheap as Tokyo or Istanbul
>>2908732>Only in shitholes in USA.DFW, Las Vegas, Flagstaff, Santa Fe, Oklahoma City, Myrtle Beach, Orlando, etc. The prices are skewed because the upper limit is so infinitely higher when you can just get a hotel 10-15 minutes outside where you want to be and bus/uber downtown. The list in the OP shows the averages dip below 100 regularly in places, VB isn't that bad.
>>2908736Cheapest in DFW is over $100
>>2908736Cheapest in LV is also over $100
>>2908745>3 nights>281 dollarsyeah so the average nightly price is under 100 which is literally what the OP's chart is aboutalso>breakfast included add on>booking 2 days outLMAO >>2908746That's 100/night retard>inb4 merely pretending to misunderstand and actually thought 100 total
>>2908747Then sleep in a container or a hostel crybaby
>>2908750I'd rather do a comfort inn that has a fitness center and breakfast, it's 55/night. For 75 a night I could stay near the airport for a similar Hotel+shuttle and close to the DART. I have no idea why you screenshot multiple nights where even on a short notice booking, which is always more expensive, and even then breaks down to 100 a night or less. I'm all for complaining about weird prices of the US hotel markets but at least don't try to fluff your BS when it's so obvious you were just fudging the numbers.
>>2908752Lmao you are staying in roach motels with a 2.2/10 rating
>>2907785Handbags and watches appreciate while cars depreciate.
>>2908700All that traffic noise, bright lights, no place to poop, police and lowlifes cruising around looking for trouble. The forest is so much better for car sleeping, I only stayed in parking lots as a last resort or if I wanted to spend the evening in town. >>2908712There are many causes, but banking jews owning everything via loans is a big factor. Many hotel owners are paying off a huge mortgage. No, Vishnu Patel didn't have 2 mil cash laying around to buy Sunset Inn and Suites. He got a big loan and now uses his customers to pay it off.>>2908736Bus access is very poor for most of those cheap outlying hotels. Some American cities do have cheap motels in lived-in neighborhoods, but most have them only in those ugly commercial sprawl zones that have no life whatsoever (unless it's a ghetto, then there will be blacks loitering around doing black people stuff).>NO LOITERINGEverywhere you go you see those signs in the "Land of the Free". It's a crime to enjoy leisure time with buddies outdoors in this zogged country, you can only leave your house to spend money and then it's time to get back in the pod.
>>2908803Why do you want to stand on the corner with crackheads? Wtf is wrong with you that you are angry you can't do that
>>2908803Bus access is dependent on where you go, LV strip bus system and to/from the airport is fine. Lots of beach cities often have buses running north/south along the beach to get you places. It's an option if uber isn't part of what you plan to budget. I don't mind using the bus, but if I was with a girl I'd always do an uber.
>>2908847I'm sick and tired of white flight; it is the root cause of the so-called Great Replacement. Instead of seething online about nons, White people of all ages and income levels should be congregating in large groups every warm summer evening in America. Meeting sweethearts, playing sports, drinking beer, cruising around in their cars, strumming guitars in a circle, lighting campfires, grilling food, etc. Restore primitive tribal behavior, restore social confidence, restore a sense of belonging to a place.
Goods and services impacted by coloured people cost 100% to 200% more than they would otherwise in western shitholes. Factor in teen takeovers, lower productivity, lawsuits, random violence . Now add in demand side by filling hotels with criminals who also run up expenses, a $50 room becomes $150.
Here's another example groceries in Tokyo are more expensive than paris, berlin and nyc, but restaurants are much much cheaper, fast food is 1/3rd the price. Why? Blacks, rapefugees and other brownoids who drive up costs at restaurants and retail establishments Lesson, cheaper travel destinations have few to none subhumans or they are strictly controlled double plus good. This is ai but tracks with my experience >Tokyo is generally cheaper than Berlin for dining out, with restaurant prices approximately 46.5% to 63.9% lower in Tokyo, while grocery prices are roughly 4% to 26% higher in Tokyo compared to Berlin. According to Numbeo data from October 2025, specific cost differences include:Dining Out: A meal at an inexpensive restaurant costs €6.76 in Tokyo versus €15.00 in Berlin (a ~55% difference). Fast food combos are significantly cheaper in Tokyo (€4.22 vs €12.00). Groceries: Basic staples vary; milk is slightly more expensive in Tokyo (€1.27 vs €1.15), while bread and chicken are notably cheaper in Tokyo (€1.08 vs €1.73 and €2.94 vs €4.76 respectively). However, items like beef, apples, and oranges are more expensive in Tokyo. Beverages: Soft drinks and bottled water are drastically cheaper in Tokyo (€0.99 and €0.71) compared to Berlin (€3.05 and €2.51).
>>2909015Asians are so much more efficient than Whites. Also, dining out in the West is classified as leisure sector. It's an optional social experience. Dining out in Asia has both leisure sector fine dining and strictly utilitarian eateries which feed hungry workers on a daily basis. They bring the average price of eating out way down.
>Be american>live in non coastal shity>work shitty low skilled job so capped at 2 weeks vacation>only 42-48k/yr>book 1 week vacation>stay in Extended stay, Motel 6, or Day's inn>maybe use CC points for a Best Western or something>week price kicks in 400-450/week>drive car down and use to get around town/reduce uber usage, gas back and forth maybe 200 total>even a shitty 2016 Nissan versa is getting like 350 miles on a tank>bring all your stuff in the car + some extra booze to help cut the costs of drinking down>take off Thursday right after work/leave work a bit early, get in late >Friday->the next Sunday have fun (9ish days off)>check out Sunday afternoon drive back for work on monday>total week out maybe 800 for 2 peopleJust book more than a week out usually 3-4 weeks out is prime to get decent deals, often more the better. A week at a time is pretty easy. Having a car opens up so many possibilities it's not a big deal for most americans, a 6hr radius from your home basically has so much to offer for things. Even a mid place like PHX I can drive up to Northern parts of AZ or Show Low for snow, cool fall activities, etc, or simply drive down to rocky point for a cheap ass beach getaway without the Los Angeles BS. Flights to DFW for other shows are cheap as shit and I've never really had a problem using the DART to get around.
>>2906445I remember thinking of taking a trip somewhere in North America, but found that the average hotel price was $200 (CAD) per night for ones in a decent location. Absolutely insane. And people wonder why I got to Japan often instead of something more local.
>>2906445>you guysIt's boomers. It's all boomers.They bought houses in 1975 for two loaves of bread and a sack of potatoes, then inherited two more houses when their parents died, and their 401Ks from their paper-boy and burger flipping jobs are worth millions. Their day to day living expenses are social security, which they make their children pay for.Boomers are basically all quiet multimillionaires who keep quiet about it because they know they robbed their children with inflation.
>>2908752>>2908754Kek
>>2910084Pretty sure the post was outlining the days inn given the "fitness center" which is only in the pic for the days inn.Intentionally misunderstanding or just stupid?
>>2910085You the homeless bum always lecturing people and crying about how normal people look at you with disgust? Lmao all rooms you rent are full of druggies, nogs and roaches.
You are poor and shouldn't travel./thread
>>2906445Because hotels get paid by the government to provide homes for homeless. They have no incentive to offer lower prices.
>>2906516Pfft, dead tell for a nouveau rich poser right there. Try spending $10k a night before you start running your povo mouth
>>2906445I live in america, i dont do long trips here. Long weekends in vegas/nyc or weeklong roadtrips in adjacent statesWhen i do 2week+ stuff i do it international. Yeah hotels here are expensive it is what it is, hard to find non roach motel spots in reasonable locations, 200/n is "very cheap" for domestic hotels in my experience (based on the places i frequent). 1 night in manhattan is a week in business hotels in japan
>>2910068>"50 weeks of wagecuckery are complete, freedom at last for this amerimutt!">find an interstate-exit budget motel a few hours from home>lounge around for a week drinking booze, ordering pizzas, gooning and watching TV>go on a little car daytrip every morning, walk around looking at trees and rocks>talk to nobody because "talking to strangers in public is weird">check out, drive home and get ready for another 50 weeks of wagecuckeryO SAY CAN YOU SEE
Even wealthy people are getting fed up
>>2911898It's called NIMBYism and i doubt a rich person doesn't know about that.
>>2911898Dude didn't even try to look, if I adjust the slider to be under 300/night it's easy.>>2911886Most people get like 10 company holidays+2 weeks PTO if not more
>>2906445america is an rv/koa country.you need a car to get around everywhere that's not nyc regardless
>>2912057towing your bed is a nice idea in theory but in reality american roads are often narrow and in poor shape and having a huge ass trailer to lug around is a big limitationyou just cannot go some places with an RV or trailer
>>2912057I've considered getting a utility van and turning into a small rvbut logistically finding a place to park it every night, handling showers and bathroom, and of course now the price of fuel I don't think the little money saved would be worth it
>>2911886I don't know about your situation anon, but my work gives us 12 days off per year. 2 weeks PTO starting, +1 week per year, capped at 4 total weeks off. That's fairly standard for office and non-blue collar work, many places are also waaaay more flexible these days compared to pre covid where if you need to WFH it's not a pulling teeth issue. I'll admit I don't know anyone who can take all 4 weeks off in one run like some of my bongistan friends but still that's a lot of time off on par with most euros if you actually count it.
>>2912596>capped at 4 >cant even take 4 at oncetwo weeks PTOtard x2
>>2911960He said meh hotel, not a shithole
>>2912964Even "shithole" $70/night American motels have comfier beds, more room furnishings and better bathrooms than the typical $25/night room in Asia. American houses are just so much more luxurious than their Asian counterparts that the motel feels like a big step down, while in Asia you are sleeping better than the locals.
>>2912995>Even "shithole" $70/night American motels have comfier beds, more room furnishings and better bathrooms than the typical $25/night room in Asia. This is true. America has more land and you're setting triple the price, but ok>American houses are just so much more luxurious than their Asian counterparts that the motel feels like a big step down, while in Asia you are sleeping better than the locals.This isn't true. In asia that expensive hotel ($25 a night) is substantially worse than the conditions locals live in. In america too, even that $70 hotel is worse than what locals live int. lived like a local in several countries in asia, and in the us, and stayed in the $25 room in asia and the $70 room in the us
A hotel room like this in India now costs $50/night when booked online. Maybe $40 paying at reception. When I see such prices in India, Thailand and other countries, it becomes clear that American motels are not particularly overpriced. (First floor motel rooms do have awful natural lighting and curtains that can't be opened without somebody walking by right outside. And the noisy ass window A/C units. Ugh. Ameripoors love sleeping in gloomy caves with ultraplush beds and a thrumming fan. I've met so many mutts who say they cannot sleep without some kind of noise, because then they might hear somebody walk past their door and jump awake in a panic reaching for their gun.)
No one cares about going to India other than Indians
>>2912995American beds are more comfortable. Asians for some reason prefer rock beds. I dont understand other than them historically being 40kg goblins or the humidity destroying beds before climate control
>>2913284i got that within walking distance from the delhi airport for like $13
>>2913296Thats still overpriced
>>2908736>>2908713Middle of fucking no where Clear Lake, Iowa isn't even sub $100/nightImagine defending US hotel rip offs lmao. Bro we travel we know what's realistic. The US is an overpriced dump
>>2913287This>>2913284>Willingly traveling to india
>>2906534>so my wife could get a leather appointmentThis nigger drops off his wife at the sex dungeon when he checks in.
Premium paid for the suburban sprawl experience
>>2906445Poor people shouldn't go sightseeing in the U.S.
>>2914731They dont. Middle class dont either. Travel in America is for boomers, complain about them all you want but they earned a nice retirement based on hard work and savings
>>2907619>>2907637samefag loser in life.>on this board weyou are alone you fucking mentally ill faggot. grow up you undeveloped manchild. >>2907782bro just shut the fuck up you nerdy virgin faggot. you will never be any real money so don't worry about it you parasite
>>2910891>>2914731discouraging travel on a travel board yeah no wonder youre on this shithole board>>2911886>>2912675sucks not having a job and adult responsibility huh anon? Thank fuck you will never have kids.>>2914753>worked hardgeriatric failure detected. imagine thinking only old people travel lol do you go outside? middle class travels all over you internet fried brain faggot kys cocksucker
>>2915965You are alone in your cuck cage, all grown up and responsible like a good goy. We are travelling and enjoying that feeling of freedom. Every day brings new surroundings and possibilities. Your miserly griping won't stop us, but hey, thanks for funding everything with your income tax paypiggery.
You can still travel in the US for cheap. But it requires deeper research. You can stay in Vegas in November for $61 a night on the strip. You can do Yosemite for $100/night in January. The Grand Canyon for $44 a night. Destin Florida in October for $63 a night.
>>2916086>cheap>$61 a nightkek.
>>2916099If you can't afford $61 a night, you should be the one taking advice, not giving it.
>>2916099And it's not $61 it's $69 and these rooms are in roach motels
>>2916086Wow, 70$ a night, no way. I could spend that on a roach motel or a standard mom and pop hotel, breakfast included in the middle of Venice during off-season. Tough choice.
>>2906445The USA is a retarded shithole full of niggers and morbidly obese dumbfucks. Just stay away.
>>2914753>Travel in America is for boomersthis. USA is owned by Boomers. most people just work in it
>>2916389>The USA is a retarded shithole full of niggers and morbidly obese dumbfucks. Just stay away.best option for me with $1.2M and an Italian passport and SEA gf+baby?Have a bachelors and will work my last SWE job until the wheels fall off or I knock em off myself.Asia and Europe would be main consideration. Maybe become a tutor/educator and work international schools. idk
>>2917873rural italy
>>2917881This, preferably in the north-east or in the mountains around the center.
>>2917872>waaah people who worked for 50 years own more than people who worked 1 day waaaaaah
>>2917923>>waaah people who worked for 50 years own more than people who worked 1 day waaaaaahMy problem isn't that they own more. it's how much more they own per unit time and how much they want to charge for being the current holder of it.
>>2918486So you are just a jealous loser. What a miserable mindset
