What's your response, /toy/?
>>11922452Fuck off spammer
that fig looks like shit
>>11922452Let me guess without watching the video, he uses the existence of this thing that can barely pose and with any paint to shit all over the Haslab sentinel? And I’m sure he mentions the nothingburger knee issue several times.
>>11922452Which side are you on?Michael on the side of toys should provide more plastic for less or Anthony on the side of toys need to be high quality adult collectibles to be worthwhile even it it means it has to be expensive?https://youtu.be/EBu-BKDndyE
>>11922452Haven’t seen the video, but did he use this as an example to say everyone is lying about toy prices? I know he doesn’t even collect Transformers.
>>11922473You say that as if he's wrong to do so.>>11922482Team Michael all the way. If you want an adult collectible then buy a statue.
>>11922486He did and they are.
to what
>>11922452>he’s still seething about the toy guru debateWasn’t expecting to get such a hearty kek tonight
>>11922452Clean it up jannies.
>>11922452What? He's 100% right. Toy companies, especially Hasbro are taking us all for a ride because they know dumbasses will pay. They all keep jacking up the prices and then paying their CEOs and upper management inflated salaries and bonuses.
>>11922572Indeed.
The video is saying because they made a $35 big figure with limited articulation (he has never seen Big Figs before so this Optimus is shocking to him, he keeps talking about it being shocking it's at retail when Big Figs have always been at retail) and thinks the Sentinel Marvel Legend should have been released at retail for half the price or something because of it. He also keeps bringing up the current world situation because he thinks this was planned priced and produced a few months ago so he still doesn't know how long toys take to be made. He also says "kids will see this and see a cool robot!!" but then says "because it has a 40th anniversary logo on it's marketed towards adults! If they weren't aiming for adults they wouldn't put that on it" as if toy companies have something to prove and it isn't the 40th anniversary, it's a strange thing to bring up like it's an actual point. Because just like how kids would, adults would also still buy it if it didn't have the 40th anniversary logo on it. Hasbro are over charging though, but now you don't have to watch the video
>>11922452isnt that optimus just the equivalent to one of these? calling them figures is kinda generous id say and theyve always been priced as such (like 30 msrp). the walmart by me was basically handing the darth vader ones at one point
>>11922652It has like a few more points of articulation but that's why it is $35 and not $30
>>11922652I think I even remember some videos where Michael offhandedly mentioned that he disliked those kinds of figures and referred to them as "shampoo bottle figures"
I don’t think an ip or range ban is enough, just death.
>>11922482>adult collectiblesFucking hell. It feels good to know these types will be killed when society collapses.They're toys. Call them toys.
>>11922617Unfortunately, toys are even more of a luxury hobby than gaming or outdoor hobbies so toy companies will take ANY opportunity to increase prices.If fully articulated figures were once 10 dollars and imports 20, it was likely because they were so cheap they could give them away without taking a loss.
>>11922617I can’t stand watching this know it all faggot, I’ve worked with people just like him, always second guessing every decision, thinking they would easily do better but never actually doing anything themselves.
>>11922674Firing squad at Fort Hood please, thank you for your attention to this matter
if only reporting worked and wasn't a waste of time
>you want a good looking transformer that doesn't transform but has decent articulations and decent price?>This is the best we can do>t. Hasbro- Biggest toy company in America and 3rd in the world after Lego and BandaiCan you really blame people for complaining?
>>11922572>>11922611Michael's hands typed these.
>>11922856>just start a toy company bro
Did everyone forget when jakks made pic related nearly a decade ago alongside a similarly scaled and poseable John Cena? I know this is a retrospammer thread, and any attempts to further legitimate conversation will be derailed or ignored, but there is genuinely truth to what retroblasting has to say. Even if retail release Galactuses and Sentinels had to be gimped to meet a budgeprice point, it should have been done.
>>11922968I've never seen that Batman. I like the printing they did for shading. Do you remember the price?
>>1192297039.99. And that was back when Jakks still owned the big figs brand. It's since been bought out by the guys who did this new optimus prime, shushu papa
>>11922973That's a fair price I'd say. I dig it.
>>11922463It's meant to have a 1970s "Shogun Warriors" vibe to it. I think it's actually pretty cool because of it. I didn't see Michael's video though because he always finds something to nit-pick about.
>>11922520??What debate?
>>11922978Here's hoping the Prime sells well enough to merit similar releases. Megatron, the Iron Giant, Liberty Prime, Mechagodzilla, Godzilla, etc. There might even be room in there for a limited shogun warriors revival as a retail exclusive for the Christmas season. I'd pay through the nose for Mazinger Z alone, especially at 35 bucks.
>>11922978He had no complaints about Prime.
>>11922982>I'd pay through the nose for Mazinger Z alone, especially at 35 bucks.The original shogun warriors recently got reissued due to how stupid-high the prices have gotten.
>>11922987Yeah I saw, but they were asking what, 225$? Even with all the bells and whistles thats too rich for my blood.
>>11922988yeah it's a bit pricey for a shampoo-bottle toy, but it's still cheaper than the original.
>>11922961Correct, but he never will and neither will you
>>11922983>>11922982>Michael didn't bitchWell damn. That's something new. For the past three years, when he makes a new video it's to complain about something for not being as perfect as he percieves himself as being.
>>11922452Did NECA make this?
>>11923128In before NECAnon comes in and has a madgasm
>>11922979https://www.youtube.com/live/G3T_q4dI8LcIf you’re short on time you can skip to about 25 minutes in since Scott had shitty internet. But if you know Michael, then this is the funniest shit ever to see him get humbled like this.They were discussing stuff like toys at retail and Michael just kept saying he knew how things were behind the scenes because he’s a “lifelong toy collector”.
>>11923109I mean he didn’t bitch about the actual toy, because he used it to bitch about Hasbro the entire time.
>>11922452How close can it get to a truck?
>>11923153That's from years ago. I thought there was something recent. He also got into livestream disagreements with Michael Mercy and others. That's what happens in the fan base.
>>11922617>Big Figs have always been at retailit's been years since they were last on shelves
>>11923128Optimus' knee is bent. That's why he's leaning.>>11923153Even as someone who liked the original video I had to side with Scott after watching the stream. He was nowhere near as egotistical as Michael made him out to be.>>11923158Knees bent, elbows bent, head backwards.
>>11922473To be fair this could be sold under the scam of haslab and retards would still pay 600 jew bucks for it and believe the lie of 'stores wouldn't stock it' to justify the price
>>11923296this!
>>11922617So he's retarded
>>11923153kek saving this for later. I like Michael's videos but he can come across like a douche.
Does he realize that a smaller transformer that’s equal to the same price as that big Optimus has way more moving parts and thus needs more molds which is why it cost more?
permaban all youtuber threads and permaban michael.
>>11923153The worst part about this is if Michael had actually done some research he could have backed up his arguments, but his abrasive personality keeps him from form the industry connections that get him into the backstage areas like Pixel Dan that do. So this opportunity to further expose Neitlich as the scummy, lying piece of shit that he is just got squandered.
>>11922452holy shit he has aged 10 years all of a suddenis he dying?
>>11924067this probably
Stop talking to yourself
>>11922452In this video, the creator of RetroBlasting expresses his disbelief and critique of the toy industry, specifically regarding pricing justifications for large-scale figures (0:00-1:19).Key takeaways:The Case Study: The speaker highlights a Big Figs Optimus Prime figure released for the Transformers: The Movie 40th anniversary, which is approximately three feet tall and retails for $35 (0:30-1:10).Challenging Industry Narratives: The creator argues that this product invalidates long-standing industry excuses—such as high manufacturing costs, retail shelf footprints, and global economic instability—used by major companies to justify massive price hikes for large collectibles (1:16-3:00, 13:46-14:18).Adult Targeting: He asserts that by utilizing specific branding (the 40th Anniversary label) and opting for a 1/12 scale, companies are clearly targeting adult collectors rather than children, despite claims to the contrary (11:00-12:20).Conclusion: The existence of this product is presented as "damning evidence" that current high-priced collector items are a result of corporate greed and price gouging rather than unavoidable market forces (8:45-10:00, 13:00-14:00).
>>11924088We're all dying.
he's based and right 99% of the time and i'm tired of pretending he's not
>>11924193You are the bitch of zat.
>>11922473>>11923296
>>11924522One has the Hasbro tax
>>11924522One has a ton of parts for transforming, giving it high tooling, molds, and assembly costs. The other is a bit more minimalist.
>>11924613>can hold half its altmode as a weapon when it's not a backpack>transformation is doing an automorph stretchThe high tooling, in question.
>>11924193Don't ever be a bootlicker. He's just a man.
>>11924625kek
>>11924622More parts still equal higher prices, bruh.
>>11922978>It's meant to have a 1970s "Shogun Warriors" vibe to it.Why do they keep doing this when the tf fags that actually spend money consistently demand toon accuracy over anything else?
>>11922978So the Optimus Prime has rocket punch?
>>11925715This one doesnt but the Super7 did. >>11925642TF-fags are lego level consoomers. Regardless of what they say they want, they still pay through the nose.
>>11925730Don't they just wait until it goes on clearance?
>>11925730That one isn't exactly cheap.
Big fig Optimus selling at 34.99 is a psyop from Shu Shu Papa
>>11925745I've never seen any on clearance but you can always try. >>11925756No one said it was, I was just pointing out to the one anon that Super7 replicated the rocket punch where as the big fig prime didnt.>>11925762I wish this thread wasnt a dumpsterfire
I want both of you dead.
The people behind Shu Shu Papa are the same people from Jakks pacific who did the Jakks' big figWhy would any one at Hasbro allows other companirs to undercut them like this knowing Hasbro certainly can't make anything similar to Big Optimus without charge something like $100+This smells like a conspiracy
my response is Zat must sting
>>11922460Hey be nice
>>11926084You’re cucked by bonecrusher zat.
>>11926051Is that what schizophrenia is?
>>11926051wow... just... wow...
>>11926051Imagine how much better 4chan and the internet would be if all "notorious individuals" did this introspection and at least attempted to improve themselves. It takes balls to look in the mirror and admit your flaws in public
>>11926313You give him too much credit. He hides behind a username on a pseudo anonymous forum. You can only trace back what he chooses to give.
would you say he's everything wrong with the fig community in you're path?
>>11927768I think he's just everything wrong with the internet in general.
>>11922520>>11922979Here's a great summary about the build up and aftermathhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/pgfPFWEUsnaMhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/NLvBjN6KqwZM
>>11928622The debate was so epic in toy history, people still recall and discuss it to this day.
>>11928622I don't have time to watch the vids this morning, but I do remember their conflict. Scott did end up being wrong about He-Man. It didn't get cancelled 2 years ago like he swore it had been. A lot of He-Man fans (like Michael) like to pretend that MOTU 2001 (which Scott worked on) was the worse line in the entire franchise. Michael gets holier-than-thou in that most "Michael" of ways with at times acting like he knows more about how the toy industry is ran than a guy who actually worked for a major producer within it. From my view both were wrong. MOTU 2001 didn't suck. It didn't get cancelled 2 years ago like Scott thought. Both displayed an unrelenting ego that couldn't concede any point in the name of their stubborn pride. And this is what happens when two egos who believe themselves to be "important alpha leaders" within the fandom collide.
I swear you faggots like e-celeb drama more than the actual toys they talk about. You're a bunch of teenage girls.
>>11929748I think people are more entertained by it than impressed by it. The so-called "elites" think they're gaining clout while kicking down "lesser people" beneath them by engaging in pointless arguments, when they just look like retards and often enough bullies.
>>11929808This is the biggest victim complex I've ever fucking seen. Who fucking cares what these literal who's think? I never even would've known about Retroblasting's existence if you idiots didn't shove is face down this board's throat for six fucking years. If any of these "people" influence you in any way you are a fucking NPC and don't get a goddamn opinion. Grow a fucking back bone you pussy.
>>11929811>Who fucking cares what these literal who's think?I do agree. I personally reject the whole social notion of (((INFLUENCERS))). But they do show up and inject their (((INFLUENCE))) everywhere (including here). They're easy to spot because they'll create a big argument over the tiniest of points while being as insulting as possible because someone disagreed, which they took as a challenge to their egos. Hobbies are supposed to be fun and enjoyable escapism from the bullshit in life, but they act like there's no joy to be had at all because hobbies are "serious hardcore business." Retroblasting does have its good points and its bad points though. In this case the Shogun-style Optimus Prime for $35 is a positive thing. I don't consider it important enough to influence me on anything because I've spent a lifetime of liking what I like with no fucks given if anyone else does.
>>11929813You're an NPC and literal random losers that have a camera and internet access have influence over you. Pathetic.
>>11929748I see thru your BS anon. Stop shitposting.
>>11929814You're apparently having the same ego as influencers do with being insulting and nasty. I already told you that I like what I like and don't care what others think. If that's "NPC" to you then you're every bit what you accuse me of being. Peace, bro. Get some happiness in your life instead of being wound-up tight over a hobby that's supposed to be fun.
>>11929825Sorry sister, just pointing out how some of you seem to to care more about these social media homos than the actual toys they talk about. Thanks for proving my point.
>>11929826See? This is what I was saying with your kind taking any little point you can to create an argument out of nothing so your fucking ego can "win" something completely pointless.
>>11929745> Scott did end up being wrong about He-Man. It didn't get cancelled 2 years ago like he swore it had been.He technically wasn’t wrong on his claims that Origins was less successful at retail than 200X, and 200X was considered a flop by Mattel’s old standards. The mini-comic Stratos caused the line to have to be rebranded, which was a trick Mattel was pulling because stores wouldn’t buy more after they couldn’t sell out the Stratos wave. So they started doing crossovers and cartoon figures. The Netflix MOTU series also failed to catch on with it’s toyline and Masterverse ended up flopping because it was front loaded with figures based on the Kevin Smith show.Origins ended up becoming online exclusive and Masterverse became Walmart exclusive and has been replaced. By every metric Scott was right, but Mattel just pulled a lot of tricks to keep MOTU going and refused to let the brand die and had a movie to keep toys coming. Mattel considers MOTU an evergreen brand now.
>>11929829That was my original point anon. If it offends you, that's your problem.
>>11929835>The Netflix MOTU series also failed to catch on with it’s toyline>He-Man dead>a gaggle of women as led by empowered butch-lesbian Teela and Evil-Lyn (who's now fighting the patriarchy) are saving the world>as directed by Kevin SmithIt didn't stand a chance at success.
ban zat
>>11929865>It didn't stand a chance at success.They want it to fail. The movie was intentionally made to suck, and so were the new character redesigns. The only reason the Core line is doing well is because it's underpriced. But Mattel is losing money on the line, so the price will have to increase soon. Probably to $12 next year, and to $15 in 2028. But Core sales will plummet once it's no longer a bargain.
>>11930142I don't agree. I honestly thought that Kevin Smith and company thought they were creating something awesomely epic that would revitalize the line. Even now Smith refuses to admit that his cartoon was absolute dogcrap, and thinks that critics are just trolls.
>>11930422Kevin Smith is just a frontman, put in place to take the fall when projects fail. You know, like how we're supposed to believe that the host of a reality show is now the most powerful person in the world and is responsible for the high gas prices. Utterly ridiculous!
>>11922982I still love my DST Iron Giant and I remain fucking salty at EE for screwing me over on my pre-order for the metallic version well after BBTS and everyone else sold out. Especially since Ad Populism doesn't seem to understand what they ended up owning with those Gentle Giant molds.
zat sucks
>>11930583>that the host of a reality showhe's no longer a reality show hosthe's leveled up to host of the kennedy center honors>>11929826why come?picrelated
>>11930959the thread is dead, I don’t like you.
>>11930959>those ugly elbow pins
>>11930961this place is dead now that the bots have been shut off and the shills have gone into hiding.
>>11931097The only one left is the french nounce
