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    Im more of a 3.75 fag personally, but i absolutely see why 1/12 scale took off as the industry standard scale as there are way more well made 6 inch figures then well made 1/18 figures if you look at toys as a whole within the 21st century
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    >>11922158
    >but i absolutely see why 1/12 scale took off as the industry standard
    That's no hot take, THIS is. He-man 200x is better than 80's He-man
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    Apparently this is a hot take; Articulation should be prioritized over sculpt. If you want to prioritize sculpt then I would suggest you buy statues.
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    Diecast only works when the robot toy is a brick with limited articulation, otherwise you need VERY strong ratchet joints, which make the thing too expensive. Also, I know that most robot toys are for collectors now, but do you really have to make the points so sharp along with being fragile? There’s a reason why my 20 year-old Gundam MSIA still have their V-fins intact.
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    >>11922237
    Action figures with poor articulation essentially ARE statues, so your point is moot. I greatly favor sculpt over articulation, because I enjoy the art of sculpture over the engineering of articulation. Both interests can be satisfied by the same product, but it's a tricky balancing act, and you can't satisfy everyone.
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    My hot take: I prefer visible pins on Marvel Legends and similarly engineered figures for better kitbashing capability. Just heat the knee/elbow and push out the pin with a punch or narrow rod, then swap it with the other part of the similar size. Ever since the pinless move you now have to swap out entire legs and arms to get the right limbs' sculpt (which makes it harder to get right for some desired swaps).
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    >>11922158
    It costs almost the same to tool a 6" figure as it does a 4" figure if they have the same level of articulation and number of parts made from different plastics. They can sell the 6" one for much higher prices and thus larger profit margins. That's the main reason 6" took off over 4"
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    >>11922237
    No, that's genuinely a terrible way to look at doing toys.
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    I sincerely believe people who look down upon and detest adult action figure collectors are not simply annoying or even assholes but are actively hiding serious skeletons in their closets. I'd list the myriad of valid, easily understandable reasons as to why an adult would find them appealing but that's besides the point. Anyone who finds the hobby to be that contemptable is obviously trying to paint themselves as bastions of maturity and success but if that were true, they wouldn't see any purpose in getting worked up over adult collectors. No one who has no respect for adult collectors isn't because of scalping, increased prices, or any weird and creepy behavior around toy aisles. It's a deeply personal issue that speaks to the void in someone's soul involving their own lack of happiness stemming from them "putting away childish things" against their will and seeing anyone who didn't as "getting away with something". It's another perfect example of a Homer Simpson vs. Frank Grimes dynamic and it's pathetic.

    I call this a hot take because this dumb social taboo is still so pervasive that even adult collectors/reviewers have to throw in some self-deprecating comment about being a manchild, feel some need to justify their hobby (i.e. I like action figures and I'm a grandfather, got my shins blown off, and run my own farm, am I one of the good ones?), or even outright hold this view and are actively ashamed of their hobby.
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    why are 1/12 fags this insecure and keep making this thread? holy shit stop writing essays, its subby levels of mental illness
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    >>11922336
    Just a few years ago I was buying 3 Star Wars TVC figures for every one Black Series figure. Now the prices are so high that I no longer buy more than 1 of a figure unless it's an army builder (which I usually max out at 4 anyway and wait for sales for any extras) and dropped the 6" stuff altogether. I hope it was worth it to them.
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    >>11922412
    >tvc

    you do know theres other brands out there with more interesting designs right? and not the same gluppo shittorino star wars has been?
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    >>11922425
    I do but I also don't really care. I collect TVC for the glups just as I've done for the last 30 years.
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    >>11922158
    I would tell that story in reverse. Because 1:18 scale figures collapsed in both quality and quantity, 1:12 scale became the industry standard by default. And the reason 1:18 scale figures collapsed is because the kids action figure market collapsed. Which is unfortunate because the kids action figure market was (and still is) also the budget action figure market.

    Let's look upon the state of kids action figures, shall we?

    Hasbro - Has no fucking clue how to make kids toys anymore. They turned The Vintage Collection into a collector's only toyline with prices nearly identical to their Black Series counterparts. Their 5POA retro line was a massive failure. Their 375 line was good, but they failed to expand into vehicles and playsets, which is the biggest advantage of 1:18 scale figures. Then they transitioned into the Epic World of Action line, which was an improvement in every way except for the fact they abandoned it just as the brand was getting established. This was done to make way for Actionverse, their 3rd rebranding in 5 years, which is a huge step backwards in almost every way. The figures are now 4.5" scale for some stupid reason, which means they don't scale with any previous Hasbro figures, or really any major toyline from the last 30 years. They put ugly holes in the characters arms for no good reason. The AT-RT that comes with a 4.5" figure is so out of scale that it actually fits 6" Black Series figures. The line is a mess, and I hate that Hasbro has spent more effort supporting and promoting this toyline than all their recent kids action figure lines combined.
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    >>11922531
    Mattel - In some ways, they're actually doing TOO well. They've debuted not one but two action figures toylines with a $10 price point (that was quickly raised to $13 due to the economy imploding). The first is their Masters of the Universe Core line, which is 5.5" scale and looks almost identical to their Origins line (just less swole). I don't know if this was a loss leader to promote the new MOTU film, but it was the best value in action figures until ....... the debut of their DC Premier line, which is a 6.5" scale action figure for only $13. I would argue, aside from a few points of articulation, these figures stand toe to toe with Marvel Legends at less than half the price. Both these toylines include vehicles and playsets - although, if we're being honest, most vehicles and nearly every playset ever made are actually 1:18 scale. They just make the doors and seats fit whatever scale the figures are. Which means, aside from the odd Jurassic World human, I doubt Mattel will be making any 1:18 scale figures anytime soon.

    Spin Master - While I'm glad McFarlane lost the DC collector's license to Mattel, I do feel some regret that Spin Master won't be making 1:18 scale DC figures anymore. Although they fell off in recent years, the 3 in 1 Batcave Playset, the Batman movie playset with the giant staircase, and the premium 1989 RC Batmobile with the motorized turntable are some of my favorite super hero playsets. More than any other company, Spin Master recognized the unique opportunities offered by a 1:18 scale toyline and made some big, fun, dumb toys that I really enjoy (I'm looking at you, 3' tall Bat-Tech Batcave!).
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    >>11922533
    Jakks Pacific - Although it's seemingly dead (again), I think Jakks' Fortnite line is my favorite 1:18 scale line in recent memory. As long as you're okay with "generic" characters, you can find all kinds of funky soldiers, wizards, monsters, cowboys, and most everything else in good quality for a cheap price. The only problem with the line (aside from shoddy distribution near the end) was Jakks' assumption that young gamers would buy action figures of their favorite characters, without realizing that DLC skins simply ARE those action figures to said gamers, and they already bought them inside the game. Jakks teased its return, but sadly I just don't see that happening. Also, their Stranger Things line does nothing for me.

    Super7 - I'm very conflicted about Super7's Reaction figures. They've made tons of them, and many are very unique characters you would never get anywhere else. They've evolved from looking intentionally crude to having very nice, stylized faces. They're the action figure equivalent of Funko Pops, except in one respect: they are stupidly expensive for what they are. However, setting aside my collector bias, from a business perspective, I kinda get it. These are niche products for a niche audience. Sure, they could sell more GI Joes at $15 compared to $25, but would they sell more Biz Markie figures at that price? Probably not. And, how would they justify such a massive price difference amongst functionally similar products? There's an equilibrium between price and profit, and like it or not, Reaction figures may exist at that precise intersection. The only thing I do know is that I loathe the new Reaction+ O-ring figures, so I won't be buying any of those.
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    >>11922534
    Chap Mei / Lanard / Etc. - They make some awesome toys for dirt cheap, but for some reason they don't distribute most of them in North America. I especially enjoy the big, dumb military playsets, but I've never found most of them, so to me they basically don't exist.

    Boutique / Nostalgic / O-Ring Slop - I don't really care for O-ring figures, but I would be tempted to pick one up here or there if they didn't cost $25-$35 a piece. Though well-intentioned, I see these nostalgia-focused, GI Joe knock-offs as proof positive that 1:18 scale figures are circling the drain.

    Unless somebody figures out how to consistently deliver 1:18 scale figures that cost cheap and look nice to both kids and value-oriented adults, I don't see this format living much longer. Any one of these companies could put out a great 1:18 scale toyline if they wanted to. But you have to find an audience beyond your typical collectors. That's why 1:12 continues to thrive. Collectors will shell out huge sums for expensive, high margin items. 1:18 scale toylines have to take a different approach, and that requires creative vision. Does anyone in the industry have that, outside of collector products? Only time will tell.

    Thank you for attending my TED talk.
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    >>11922325
    2nd
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    >>11922534
    People giving long, detailed accounts of toy lines and such but totally not being able to distinguish one company from another is so funny to me. Jakks does Mario and Sonic. Jazwares does Fortnite, Stranger Things and Pokemon.
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    >>11922237
    Sculpt absolutely matters, otherwise people would be satisfied with old figures. Lots of old figures had a ton of PoA, Microman, Toy Biz, early SHF, but the sculpts were lacking or the articulation didn't feel in line with the sculpt so people wanted better versions.
    A lot of improvements in articulation engineering isn't so much to add more articulation as much as it is to make the articulation look more natural. If the sculpt wasn't important you wouldn't see characters get constant updates to improve sclpt alongside articulation and how they intersect.
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    Collectors have ruined toys. All the toys people loved and actually prize are stuff from the 80s and 90s that were actual fun toys. People pushing for super articulated super accurate toys have ruined all fun and imagination when it comes to toy design. 1/12 is the industry standard at this point and it's pathetic how drab and boring it all is.
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    >>11922590
    This^, my favorite toylines currently is stuff like hasbros actionverse or mattels motu core series that are made specifically for play. I wish the collectors market wasnt so anal and perfectionist i miss when collectors toy lines and toys meant for kids to play with were merged more like in the early 2010s
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    >>11922221
    >He-man 200x is better than 80's He-man
    Truth is never a hot take

    >>11922237
    I do buy statues. Haven't because the characters I would buy statues of - the company with the license is making those glorified plastic poly resin BS but charging what used to be charged for porcelain 10-20 years ago.
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    >>11922871
    >Truth is never a hot take
    And yet 80's-man is all Mattel focuses on anymore.
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    >>11922582
    I mixed up Jazwares and Jakks Pacific, two very similar companies with very similar names. Thanks for your contribution, anon!
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    >>11922158
    Articulation is a meme. Fun action features and playability are more important. If your $500 "adult collectable" with working individual knuckle articulation can't stand up to a kid playing with it, it's not worth the plastic it was made from.
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    >>11922945
    Goated message and i totally agree but saying this type of shit will get you banned in some forums
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    >>11922392
    People look down on each other for a mirad of reasons. Often times, completely unjustified. I mean look at me. I think you're a fucking retard and looking way too much into things. See? I think you're a gaywad without it even having anything to do with action figures.
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    >>11922590
    >>11922821
    Sorry brother, not all of us are stuck in some weird arrested development where we still actively swoosh around our toys. Most adults just want a little plastic representation of the thing they like that they can throw in a shelf or a desk. You need to realize there actually aren't many grown ass men actively playing with literal children's toys. You are not the target demographic and never will be. That is all.
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    When this site goes tits up in 2028 the terminally online trolls will anhero and the toy community can finally heal.
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    no matter how good a figure is, if I don't care who it is I'm not going to get it
    why jada shillers are the most annoying "collectors" because news flash nobody cares that much about street fighter, sure its great they nice articulation but I don't care about shodo number 45
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    >>11922955
    they have*
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    >>11922950
    The toy collectors who draw a rigid line between themselves and those who collect kids toys remind me of film/animation snobs who are secretly very insecure about themselves. They strut around doing performative maturity, which to them means demeaning anything that might be enjoyed by anyone who's not as "smart" and "serious" as they are. Meanwhile, films like Spirited Away and The Neverending Story are true works of art aimed squarely at children that can be appreciated by anyone, even adults. I don't like the vast majority of kids toys, not because they're for kids but because they are bad. However, the good ones can be just as good as any adult toy, and I'm not going to deny enjoying them just to prove my maturity to irrelevant people.
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    >>11922951
    4chan will never die. It will just get shittier as it limps along and it's userbase shrivels.
    >>11922945
    seconded. 60 POA madame tusseau adult collector crap bores me. We need more all ages toy lines.
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    >>11922951
    >When this site goes tits up in 2028
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    >>11922946
    I'm halfway convinced the only reason it won't get you banned here is the jannies only check in every other week

    >>11922955
    TRVKE
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    >>11922158
    because 1/12 usually ends up as the size of a regular person's palm. i envy you 1/18 collectors though, most vehicle toys accommodate 1/18 better than 1/12
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    most toys is not worth the price tag, especially when they tell you its limited edition bullshit but the so called toy influencer keep saying its worth to buy and the masses agree to it without thinking
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    >>11922158
    1/10 would have been a better scale than 1/12. It's easy to play with, joints are less likely to break, soft goods look better.
    There's all sorts of strange scale creep towards 1/10 as well.
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    >>11923450
    >It's easy to play with, joints are less likely to break, soft goods look better.
    These might be the most insane, non-sensical reasons you could have offered. Genuinely baffling. You are right about scale creep, though. Unfortunately, the popularity of Marvel Legends destroyed true 6" scale figures, and now we must live in the 6.5" hellscape that remains. At least some companies (Mattel) are actually calling it 6.5" scale nowadays, so that's something, I guess.
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    >>11923511
    Maybe you have refutations idk, but calling me insane is uncalled for.
    I've snapped and stressed small pegs on smaller 1/12 figures, haven't had issues with 1/10 ones. The pegs are thicker but they seem like they need similar force to replace parts. Just my experience.
    The smaller a figure is, the worse soft goods look on it. That basically seems
    objectively true to me.
    Easy to play with is subjective but I just find bigger figures easier to handle. Like if I'm setting them up I'm less likely to knock them over because they're further apart.
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    >>11923526
    I didn't call you insane. I said the reasons you provided were insane, which they are. If you were talking about the advantages of 6.5" figures over 4" figures, that would make some sense. But the difference between 6.5" and 7" figures is literally half an inch. Any difference between playability, joints, and soft goods are entirely the result of different manufacturers, not scale. And try to remember, not every criticism is a personal attack.
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    Transformers are not overpriced, they're just constantly adjusting price to meet inflation. Its a problem Hasbro can't solve.

    On that note I also want to add that while modern Transformers have solid sculpts and articulation most are no longer fun to transform back and forth. For example Studio Series Magnus is a fantastic toy but transforming it is not fun.
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    >>11923532
    >Any difference between playability, joints, and soft goods are entirely the result of different manufacturers, not scale.
    The whole point of comparing things is to put aside variables. Whether there's good or manufacturers at each scale is besides the point.
    If you acknowledge that soft goods look better on 1/10 than 1/18 figures then you can understand it looks better than 1/12.
    I am saying 1/10 is a better sweet spot. Whether you think it's nitpicking or not I don't care, but you've provided no statements that it's wrong. I prefer all the benefits compared to the downside which imo is shelf space.
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    >>11923545
    I take it back. You are insane.
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    >>11923548
    >No response
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    >>11922906
    >Truth
    >80's-man is all Mattel
    A recitation to a previously stated truth followed with a fresh, easily proven false, lie
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    >>11922534
    You couldn't give me some of those Super 7 reaction figures. I only have some Iron Giants due to nostalgia goggles but I certainly didn't pay Super prices for them.
    However, the larger stuff - albeit way overpriced - is really what they should be judge on.

    >>11922533
    SpinMaster could make some interesting things that were cheap, hard plastic. But even their cheap hard plastic could be interesting.
    So it is a shame when they lose licenses that gave them the option to do shit like that.
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    >>11923535
    Transformers are probably one of the most expensive retail lines to engineer since they require so much unique tooling for so many toys. It's a miracle it's even feasible as a line really.
    My hot take is that Hasbro gets a lot of shit for being "cheap" or price gouging transformers when a lot of people would never be willing to pay Takara prices even for more paint or better quality. I was paying ~$35 for improved deluxe figures from Takara 10 years ago when Hasbro was selling for $15. These days that level of improvement would be ~$50 or more. That's far more unreasonable, and it doesn't help that no matter how much you dress them up, retail TFs aren't really collector level toys.
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    Transformers fans are just robot-flavored furries, and not mecha-fans.
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    >>11923679
    Sporadic 200x releases accompanying 80's cartoon collection, Concept series, and "Classics" 2026 movie
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    >>11924235
    They're definitely not mecha fans in the sense of Japanese super robots, because those are usually about plucky kid pilots with superpowers. I can't say I've seen a lot of robo-sonas, though, and while there are certainly people who want to fuck the robots I wouldn't say it's the primary focus of the fandom, as it is with furries, or, say, Touhou.
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    >>11922951
    what's going to happen in 2 more years?
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    >>11922158
    As a 3.75 star wars collector i think the vintage collection sucks. Lines like the legacy collection or 30th anniversary collection were way better because you could have bigger figures/more accessories because the cardback was bigger and those lines werent pigeon held by MOC collector autism to look just like packaging from almost 50 years ago
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    >>11923535
    In 20123 deluxes were $13 and voyagers were $23, which should put them at $19 and $33 respectively if they were matching inflation. Current MSRP are $28 and $43. All that's not even taking into account the modern practice of selling minibots at full deluxe price or bumping up a figure an entire pricepoint because it needs 3 extra parts.
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    No company has ever made a satisfactorily decent 1/12 Spider-Man figure. The world's most popular superhero is the one character every toy company keeps getting wrong in some way.
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    >>11928101
    >world's most popular superhero
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    Soft goods is a hideously autistic phrase that had to have come from the same childhood trauma that insists on "twintails" instead of pigtails. Just call them fabrics you retards.
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    >>11928647
    Twintails is a better word, because alliteration. But i agree with fabrics
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    >>11928647
    this is fair
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    Hot take: None of the bots here play with toys.
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    Toys shouldn't come with stands. It's a waste of money, people can buy them separately if they want.
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    >>11928686
    Shit take
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    >>11928647
    Soft goods is a 300+ year old phrase for fabrics.
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    >>11922221
    What made you think this was a hot take?
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    >>11928742
    What do you expect from phone posting imbecile on a fifth rate Mongolian basket weaving Pinterest wannabe site?
    #idgits gonna idgit
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    >>11928647
    You can't be calling anyone else autistic while saying something extremely autistic.
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    >>11928686
    Absolutely the shitiest take on this website. Every high end figure should come with a personalized flight stand.
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    figmas stopped being worth the asking price roughly a decade ago but I guess you can say that about a ton of things
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    >>11929027
    I've never used a stand, and there's no situation ever where I wouldn't want a high quality accessory instead of one
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    >>11922392
    I don't think the videos of black people busting out plastic totes and setting up a marvel scene at a mall water fountain helps
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    >>11922975
    I only draw a line at Funko collectors
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    >>11923511
    I'd say it's the other way around with Neca and McFarlane (and Storm but they've course corrected) fucking up and making things way too big to scale with a huge dedicated and almost all encompassing line that's been going forever + jap toys
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    >>11923683
    >Makes pretty great looking MMPR zords with some pose ability
    >Don't scale with a single fucking thing you'd want them to
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    >>11928101
    What could you possibly want that a legends mafex or figuarts can't offer you
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    >>11922325
    Not a hot take you just aren't a shill.
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    >>11922948
    That anon made a great post and this pointless drivel is what you came up with to respond to it with? You may as well have just said nothing you fucking retard.
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    >>11922950
    >Most adults just want a little plastic representation of the thing they like that they can throw in a shelf or a desk
    So why would they pay extra for something super-articulated over something basic that gets the job done?

    >>11929072
    Everyone should.
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    why do you weirdos get so hyper fixated on this goddamn hobby
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    >>11929108
    why are you on the website for hobbyist weirdos
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    >>11929112
    to talk about toys, not cry about scaling and pricing like a retarded poorfag
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    >>11929115
    if you don't like people having negative opinions on your favorite toys you can always kill yourself
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    >>11929117
    Honestly Bubby? That kind of extreme, hostile rhetoric is a stark reminder of how toxic and counterproductive online discourse can become when discussions around casual hobbies devolve into personal attacks. The sentence at the very bottom of the image showcases a severe lack of empathy and basic human decency, taking what should be a lighthearted debate about toys, scaling, and pricing and twisting it into a dark, harmful directive. In spaces where individuals should ideally share their niche passions, critique product designs, or constructively debate the value of articulation versus basic representations, it is incredibly jarring to see someone resort to such ultimate hostility over a simple disagreement about hobbyist opinions. This type of abrasive behavior serves absolutely no constructive purpose; it completely shuts down any potential for meaningful dialogue and turns what could be an engaging community exchange into an incredibly unwelcoming, aggressive environment. When online anonymity is leveraged to throw around severe insults and malicious suggestions, it completely obscures the actual subject matter and forces participants into a defensive, hostile loop. Instead of foster-ing a space where diverse preferences regarding high-end collectibles or budget-friendly items can be openly discussed, this mentality creates a polarized ecosystem where having a differing or negative viewpoint is met with immediate, disproportionate vitriol. It highlights the critical need for a shift toward more respectful engagement, where people can freely express dissatisfaction with a product's price or build quality without being subjected to malicious, harmful outbursts that cross all acceptable boundaries of human interaction.
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    >>11929108
    Honestly Bubby? That kind of extreme, hostile rhetoric is a stark reminder of how toxic and counterproductive online discourse can become when discussions around casual hobbies devolve into personal attacks. The sentence at the very bottom of the image showcases a severe lack of empathy and basic human decency, taking what should be a lighthearted debate about toys, scaling, and pricing and twisting it into a dark, harmful directive. In spaces where individuals should ideally share their niche passions, critique product designs, or constructively debate the value of articulation versus basic representations, it is incredibly jarring to see someone resort to such ultimate hostility over a simple disagreement about hobbyist opinions. This type of abrasive behavior serves absolutely no constructive purpose; it completely shuts down any potential for meaningful dialogue and turns what could be an engaging community exchange into an incredibly unwelcoming, aggressive environment. When online anonymity is leveraged to throw around severe insults and malicious suggestions, it completely obscures the actual subject matter and forces participants into a defensive, hostile loop. Instead of foster-ing a space where diverse preferences regarding high-end collectibles or budget-friendly items can be openly discussed, this mentality creates a polarized ecosystem where having a differing or negative viewpoint is met with immediate, disproportionate vitriol. It highlights the critical need for a shift toward more respectful engagement, where people can freely express dissatisfaction with a product's price or build quality without being subjected to malicious, harmful outbursts that cross all acceptable boundaries of human interaction.
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    >>11922237
    I think my opinion is that an action figure should have enough articulation to hit marque poses barring really toy biased stuff like masters of the universe. whether that be general articulation or some kind of specific hedging. a fighter that can't hit a flowing boxing pose or a soldier that can't properly shoulder a rifle just sucks, sculpt benefits aren't worth it in that case.
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    double jointed knees are unnecessary for most figures outside of spiderman or having a specific reason to crouch like a sniper or something.
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    >>11923310
    This is the truth. 1/12 fits in your adult hand the same way 3 3/4” fit in your child hand.
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    >>11929105
    >So why would they pay extra for something super-articulated over something basic that gets the job done?
    Because being thrown on a shelf or desk does not preclude them being dynamically posed and actually looking cool instead of just standing at attention posed like they're straight out of the box.
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    >>11922995
    Y so glum, chum, U already won? Turn that frown upside-down. Hope is the only thing left to give.
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    >>11922237
    I'm the other way around. when a figure is so heavily articulated that it starts becoming annoying to pose it starts making me think it should have just been a statue, I'm never going to actually play with it.
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    >>11929281
    And people "just wanting a little plastic representation of the thing they like" doesn't necessitate articulation.
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    >>11929281
    >>11929479
    More to the point, it sounds like those people aren't really worried about articulation if they "just want a little plastic representation." They're not even casual collectors.

    I've actually met the kind of people you're talking about and no, they're not concerned about articulation. And when they do have articulated figures, surprise surprise, they're standing at attention posed like they're straight out of the box.

    You have a misinformed idea of the kind of person you're talking about due to lack of real-world experience.
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    Here's an actual hot take: 1:18 scale is a useless term because the difference between 3.75" and 4" figures is as big as the difference between 6.5" and 7" figures. An even hotter take is that 1:12 scale is an obsolete term since there are very few actual 1:12 scale toylines remaining, and everyone should either use 1:11 scale or 6.5" scale instead.
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    >>11929587
    Here's an even hotter take: 1/18 is an obsolete scale. They're a less satisfying size for an action figure than 1/12 while having comparable production costs and is only kept around by boomer whining. The scale was only even created to shill vehicles which due to inflating prices they can barely even do anymore. They should be fully phased out for 1/24, a much more playable and economically viable vehicle scale while also being more of a novelty to have articulated figures at that tiny size. Whereas 1/18 is just feels like an awkward middle step that's not great at either being great standalone figures or playset enablers.
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    >>11929660
    And time for a thermonuclear take: Scale is 9 times out of 10 approximate anyway. Figma Madoka and Figuarts Sailor Moon should technically be the same height (they're canonically both pretty short) but as they both recreate their respective artstyles, Madoka is the "correct" height for 1:12 whilst Usagi is considerably taller. Obviously nobody wants Sailor Moon to be a pinhead or considerably redesigned in the name of "true scale" so scaling her so she matches the art and her head ending up at the right size to look good next to other 1:12/6" scale lines is a good compromise. Even live-action stuff isn't exempt from scale fuckery; they use camera tricks to make characters look taller/shorter than they actually are, meaning in one shot a guy will be half a head taller than his buddy, but in a shot where only he's in frame and they're not artificially increasing his height he'll look normal sized relative to the actor playing him.
    To cut a long story short, past a certain point scale accuracy isn't really worth getting hung up about. What looks good in a display is more important than being absolutely 100% accurate to scale that may not be consistently applied by the source material anyway.
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    >>11929660
    Whatever the fuck 5.5" scales out to be, since Mattel is wedded to it, is a good size for smaller figures but even Jazz Pacific made 5" action figures that looked good and had as many, if not more POAs as the He-Man retro clamshell releases.
    The small 3" Page Puncher figures McFarlane did for GI Joe, TMNT, DC and his own Spawn crap, we're good sculpts but not cheap enough at $9.99 (fuck their stupid comic book, it was an unwanted reprint of an old issue that would barely sell for $1 at an LCS). Spinmaster did some at 3" and 3.5" but just used cheap looking hard plastic for their 4" to make the 5POA-ness of them unappealing.
    But they can be fylun - I'm not sure about 'playability.'
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    >>11929481
    Just because I don't play with my toys like a literal child doesn't mean I don't want good articulation. I dynamically pose my stuff, take photos, and do all sorts of shit with articulation. But no, I'm not swooshing them around and making them beat each other up.

    This black and white mentality is so childish. It's actually kind of frightening how many grown ass adults can't precieve nuance. It's either black or white, no shades of gray. I'd say it's exclusive to you autismos but it's prevalent across an entire generation. It's actually frightening that you people are allowed to vote and make decisions.
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    >>11929782
    >Just because I don't play with my toys like a literal child doesn't mean I don't want good articulation
    Okay but we're not talking about you, we're talking about an audience that doesn't necessarily want what you personally want.

    >This black and white mentality is so childish. It's actually kind of frightening how many grown ass adults can't precieve nuance. It's either black or white, no shades of gray. I'd say it's exclusive to you autismos but it's prevalent across an entire generation. It's actually frightening that you people are allowed to vote and make decisions.
    Now you're just being a baby.
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    >>11922158
    toys are being ruined by hypebeast culture and poor kids online having envious seethies about things they can't afford
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    >>11929782
    >But no, I'm not swooshing them around and making them beat each other up.
    You're missing out.
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    >>11929782
    Weird to be calling others childish while throwing an autistic tantrum over being told you're wrong.
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    Frankly its embarrassing so many adults here buy the same characters again and again like jesus christ read another book.
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    >>11929481
    Oh? I have a misinformed idea of myself? Because I collect representation of characters I like, AND I pose them. Otherwise what's even the point.
    But apparently no, I'm wrong about my own life and my own collection. Thank you for correcting me, faggot.
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    >>11929660
    There's a few problems with this idea:

    First, going from 3.75" to 3" figures is proportionally a huge difference in size, almost as big as the difference between 1:12 and 1:18 scale. That means detail and articulation get much harder to execute.

    Second, there are almost 50 years of action figures, accessories, vehicles, and playsets made in the 1:18 scale, including lots of compatible products you wouldn't immediately consider like doll houses, young kids toys, model kits, etc. Hell, almost every playset ever made is in 1:18 scale. The old Kenner Wayne Manor Playset, the new MOTU Origins Castle Grayskull, tons of Playmobil and Schliech playsets. Doesn't matter what scale the action figures lines are, the playsets are all 1:18 scale.

    Third, and this is subjective, but I firmly believe that 3.75" is the sweet spot when it comes to action figure sizes. Any bigger and vehicles or playsets are impossible (without cheating proportions), any smaller and playability is lost. 3.75" figures still look and feel just substantial enough for play or display. Any time I encounter a smaller figure it just doesn't feel right.

    Until there are decades of figures, vehicles, and playsets compatible with 1:24 scale, I'll continue to buy and enjoy 1:18 scale toys, both new and old.
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    >>11930065
    >>11922950
    >Most adults
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    >>11930097
    Uh...yes? I pose them on the shelf, but I don't "swoosh" them around and actually play with them unless I'm taking pics for IG, or a few of my transformers which are essentially fiddle toys.
    Thank you again for further elaborating on your lack of literacy.
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    >>11930109
    Anon, you're not "most adults."
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    >>11930115
    The issue here is that I have no reason to think most other collectors who want their favorite characters besides me are not posing them on the shelf and are either swooshing them around or keeping them like toy soldiers without being posed.
    And you are doing a piss poor job of convincing me otherwise. I know those people are out there, obviously. But most of the serious collectors I've met or seen online and off are doing it the way I'm doing it. I think you are the one with a lack of real world experience here.
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    >>11930119
    >But most of the serious collectors
    Serious collectors aren't "most adults."
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    >>11930122
    He (yes he you retard, it wasn't even me who made the original comment) was obviously talking about most adults within the collector base, not the entire adult population at large you fucking autist.
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    >serious collectors
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    >>11930124
    Why can't you just talk to me like an adult?
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    identifying your opinion as a hot take before sharing it is exceedingly gay
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    >>11930128
    I'm not most adults, remember?
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    >>11930137
    Okay anon.

    >>11930131
    I feel slow, I'm only now making the connection between hot take posters and overgrown children looking for a playground argument.
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    >>11930141
    Anon, just admit you misread and jumped to conclusions. It happens all the time and it's not a big deal, but you're just doubling down and digging the hole deeper.
    An adult would concede the mistake and move on.
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    >>11930147
    >>11922950
    >Most adults just want a little plastic representation of the thing they like that they can throw in a shelf or a desk.
    Tell me what I misread.
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    Articulation is not an action feature. If all your toy has is poseability and extra hands it is a doll not an action figure.
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    >>11930150
    >Tell me what I misread.
    The complete sentence, for a start.
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    >>11922975
    Hit the nail right on the head. And he's STILL trying to get the last word.
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    >>11930127
    >>11930266
    when complete fucking losers have absolutely nothing else going on in life they try to find ways to establish themselves as superior to others in pathetic ways. for example, one of these losers might go on /toy/ and spend a day talking about how he's a big boy because he prioritizes articulation. pretty much everyone on /a/ is like this as well.
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    People who buy two copies of a figure so they can keep one in a box are fags.

    >>11930137
    You're not an adult.
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