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    Has a player’s all-time ranking ever been so profoundly tragic?

    He stands absurdly far beneath the top three, yet impossibly far above everyone from fifth onward. Trapped in a purgatorial fourth place, too great for the earth below, yet forever denied the heavens above. A modern-day Icarus, whose wings carry him agonisingly close to the sun, but never quite close enough to touch it.
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    >>158381447
    For me, he's the 2nd best. I don't rate boomers who played against farmers.
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    >>158381447
    Top 5 are Messi, Pele, Maradona, Fat Ronaldo and Cruyff
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    If Messi didn't exist literally everyone would unanimously agree that Ronaldo is by far the best ever.
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    >>158381481
    Nah, Ronaldo's pathetic appearances at international tournaments is a blight.
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    >>158381447
    General rule of thumb, if someones top 4 isnt messi pele maradona cr7 (ignoring order) they are usually baiting or retarded and not worth engaging with either way
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    >>158381611
    Sure but CR7 is the distant 4th.
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    >>158381611
    >rating pele and maradona
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    >>158381463
    cucktiano would get swept by 80s teams.
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    >>158381481
    lol
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    >>158381447
    >far above everyone from fifth onward.
    What is this specific type of intellectual retardation called?
    Penaldo is nothing but Inzaghi with better PR. Anyone who puts him above the likes of Zidane, Cruyff or the other Ronaldos never saw a football game live.
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    >>158381447
    >all-time ranking
    There is no such thing, and if you think there is or there should be, you should be put down
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    >>158381799
    Maradona was a beast and it's easy to find footage of his matches
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    >>158381853
    Pissi Cuckitini would've died at birth if he played in the 80s
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    >>158384050
    Maradona single-handedly destroyed the English national team in the 1980s
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    Taking the players' best seasons there's an argument. Longevity matters, making it not even close. You can't play amazing for 3 years and claim to be the best ever.

    The truth is Ronaldo is best apart from Messi who has been enhanced.
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    >>158384010
    Maradona was a fat drug addicted trick horse whose biggest achievement was blatant cheating.
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    >>158384050
    this doesn't make any sense
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    Weird ass obsession
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    >>158385918
    Maradona won a Scudetto with Napoli. Penaldo lost it with Juventus. Levels.
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    >>158387570
    this
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    >>158381478
    >>158381611
    >Pele
    Your opinion can be discarded because it's not even yours
    Have you seen Pele play?
    You're just repeating boomer propaganda
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    >>158387758
    I'm 87 years old
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    >>158381478
    >Cryuff
    Literally who???
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    >>158388124
    The guy Müller cucked
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    >>158381799
    you must be over 18 to post on 4chan
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    >>158381447
    Only player who can ever be above Cristiano Ronaldo in these stupid goat rankings is Messi, anything else is bait or just dementia.
    Every fag in this board was sucking his cock just a few years a go, he turns into a 41yo has-been and suddenly everyone forgets he basically dominated the game for almost 2 decades.
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    >>158396047
    Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Maldini, Fat Ronaldo
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    >>158396047
    >everyone forgets he basically dominated the game for almost 2 decades.
    What happened at all those World Cups and every Euro tournament except 2016 where he barely played in the final?
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    >>158398555
    Is that your daddy's goat list Hernandez? You've never watched those guys play
    >>158401578
    Portugal wouldn't have qualified to many of those without him faggot
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    >>158381481
    But people already universally agree so ? ? ?
    FIFArgentina propagandist effort and payfull posts make u think not but it is TRUE
    christiano "God" Ronaldo is consider the greatest to play the game and for good reasons because he is ? ?
    You are listening to paid robot opinion...
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    >>158385580
    maradona was a short guy with strong legs, messi would have been a dwarf with brittle bones
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    >>158406765
    No, they don't agree with that at all, Abdul.

    >>158406686
    Sounds like Cucknaldo didn't dominate shit then. Oh and he was washed by the time he left Madrid.
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    >>158408015
    Can't really argue with stupid, Ronaldo's career completely dwarfs every other 'great' from the past.
    His performances at United aesthetically mogs everyone you mentioned and his prime at Real (after major injuries) is more impressive than Messi's career in LaLiga.
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    He just scored a hat trick right now. How many has pessi scored lately?

    SUIIIIIII
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    >>158381447
    Cristiano Ronaldo will always be better than Messi. No HGH needed.
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    >>158381478
    Maradona was a cheating fraud. The Messi of the 80s
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    >>158385580
    Hehe
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    the top 2 should be out of discussion, and those should be Messi and Pelé. Everything else can be argued.
    Messi for obvious reasons, Pelé also if you are not a retard:
    Brazil before Pelé = 0/5 WCs. Brazil with Pelé= 3/4 WCs. Brazil since Pelé=2/14 WCs.
    Pelé dominated for 15+ years at a time when longevity was extremely rare. He played in the best league at the time, and dominated.
    Santos before Pelé = 2 state wins in total.
    Santos with Pelé= 10 state wins, 6 national wins, 2 Libertadores wins, 2 Intercontinental wins (vs Milan and Benfica)
    Santos after Pelé = 10 state wins, 2 national wins, 1 Libertadores.
    Lastly, there's enough video material of him to convince that he was extremely good (bicycle goals, dribbling, free kick goals with both feet), unlike e.g. Garrincha who is just a myth by old people.
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    >>158410142
    >His performances at United aesthetically mogs everyone you mentioned
    He was a diving show pony for most of his time there. Watching him try to "trick" Prem defenders with his 20 step overs then kicking it forward was as embarrassing as watching Antony try to skill

    >his prime at Real (after major injuries) is more impressive than Messi's career in LaLiga.
    How when Messi won way more titles, won more golden boots and holds the record for most goals in a La Liga season. That's not even getting into the whole eye test thing, that's just stat based facts
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    oh my god did he score another tap-in that's it he's the goat of all time no i won't watch any football i'll just look at number go up like a fat retarded american
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    >>158386286
    >cheat against cheaters
    Specially based because it makes eurocucks seethe
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    Ronaldo's hard to rank because, while he was inarguably the greatest poacher of all time, he was elite at basically just that: being a poacher. He wasn't an all-time great dribbler or playmaker. His international career is lacklustre compared to the other greats, and he's actively been making Portugal worse for a few years now. His transfer to Juventus also had an overall negative impact on the club, hence why they were worse by the end of his time there than before. Cruyff is better, never mind mentioning Messi, Maradona and Pele.
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    >>158381478
    >kekle
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    >>158428606
    Ronaldo was arguably already a hindrance at Real Madrid but he was 33 when he moved to Juventus.

    Cruyff retired from national team at 30 and tried to retire from all football at 31 before moving to American meme league. Maradona was a complete meme by that age too.
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    >>158381447
    I think he's sabotaged his own legacy with arrogance. Great player. He should be remembered as a great player. But it makes him seethe he's not top of every list.

    He's obviously not be physically at it for a long time now, probably 5-6 years, if not longer. He should have just eased off the arrogance and ego with age. Play the 2nd half, last half an hour, on for 20 minutes, miss a game, play a game, hand picking opposition. Keep knocking the goals in as he approaches retirement.
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    He's a good forward but the fact he struggled so much after leaving Real Madrid shows how much he relied on having good team mates around him to gift him goals. Rooney was a more complete player than Ronaldo to be honest.
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    >>158431521
    Probably the biggest reason why he's not rated as highly as he should. Seems like an absolute cunt and not even in a relatively funny way like Zlatan.
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    >>158431524
    People probably don't remember. But at the time, when they were young, teens, early 20s, Rooney was arguably toe to toe with Ronaldo and Messi. He was very gifted himself, but if there was a slight gap, he made up for it in guts , motivation and determination. But then he started getting drunk, eating pies, gambling and having sex with prostitutes. Messi and Ronaldo just pulled away into their own league as they all aged, second half of their 20s particularly
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    >>158431587
    When they were 25 Rooney still scored more goals than Ronaldo. Completely changed after that but Rooney isn't the first or the last gifted player who enjoys beer more than pushing yourself to the absolute limits.
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    >>158431684
    Kari Lehtonen is probably the most gifted ice hockey goalkeeper in history and he was like 30 when he finally came to the conclusion that he should probably actually start training this sport if he still wants to have a job kek.
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    >>158388124
    The guy that won three CLs in a row with Ajax. No german player could do that
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    >>158432009
    >Who is Toni Kroos?
    Kys amerifag
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