What are your top 10 best footballers of all time?My list:1 - Messi2 - Pelé3 - Neymar4 - Ronaldo Nazario5 - Cristiano Ronaldo6 - Maradona7 - Ronaldinho8 - Zidane9 - Roberto Carlos10 - Mbappe
>>158368525>10 - MbappeA forward with such limited dribbling, passing, and playmaking ability should not touch a Top 10 OAT. His "best moment" - the 2022 WC final hat trick - relied on him getting two penalties. He's a complete ghost at the Euros. Hasn't won any UCLs despite being in top clubs surrounded by elite players. Obviously he doesn't press or run much OOP and he contributes nothing to defense, but that could at least be forgiven if his technique and playmaking skills were elite, but they're not. Even his positioning isn't always that great when you compare him to elite strikers like Haaland. And he certainly doesn't pull off any acrobatics (scissor kick goals, etc) like prime Suarez or Ronaldo.
>>158368598Player with most goals in World Cup history by the way
>>158368641That's because there are more games at the World Cup and more opportunities to statpad against shitters and midtable teams (same applies to the expanded Champions League format). That's why raw numbers often don't mean shit. Quality over quantity always remains true.
>>158368598Good post
>>1583685251) Messi2) Cristiano Ronaldo 3) Kevin De Bruyne4) Maldini5) Neuer6) Xavi Hernandez 7) Neymar 8) Kane9) Haaland10) Rodri
>>158368927i also dont rate pre 2000s era footballers at all, the only exception to this is Maldini Of course, who was elite even in his late phase at the dawn of modern football
WHERE IS PLATINI YOU IGNORANT ZOOMER
1. Messi2. Zidane 3. R94. Iniesta5. Maldini6. Ronaldinho7. CR78. Morscardelli9. Ramos10. Cafu
>>158370465Good list except for Ramos who's overrated
>>158368641Was Klose in your top 10 all time before the 2026 WC?
>>158368960Because Maldini was the only one whose career lasted long enough to play through both eras. While the game may have changed in terms of positioning and passing since the 90s the players were fully modern in terms of skill.
>pissi
>>158378385He shat on Serbia and Montenegro so hard that the country ceased to exist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQggbACljg
1. maradona2. pele3. messi4. iniesta5. xavi6. maldini7. christiano ronaldo8. håland9. patric kluivert 11. roberto baggio12. roberto carlos13. litmanen
>>1583685251.Gerrard2. Hansen3. Rush4. Dalglish5. Souness6. Van Dijk7. Salah8. Barnes9. Suarez10. Carragher
>>158368525PeléRonaldoGarrinchaRonaldinhoRomárioRivaldoZicoTostãoTúlio MaravilhaBebeto
1. Messi2. Maradona3. Pelé Power Gap4. CR7Power gap5. R96. Cruyff7. Zidane8. Maldini9. Dinho10. Van Basten
1. Cristiano Ronaldo2. Messi3. Iniesta4. Xavi5. Neymar6. Luis Suarez7. Modric8. Benzema9. Mbappe10. Halland
>>158378658poor Coutinho. he looked world class till going to Barcelona.
1. Hugo Sánchez2. Salvador Sánchez 3. Julio Cesar Chávez4. Josito "el Salsita" Pineda5. Roberto Gómez Bolaños 6. Juana de Asbaje 7. Enrique Peña Nieto 8. Cuauhtémoc Blanco 9. El "Bofo" Bautista10. Kula7.
>>158368525 Maradona Messi Ineasta Seedorf Yaya toreCr7R9Pirlo CrufRobben
>>158381392>CryuffLierally who???
>>1583685251) Franz Beckenbauer2) Gerd Müller3) Uwe Seeler4) Fritz Walter5) Lothar Matthäus6) Wolfgang Overath7) Paul Breitner8) Günter Netzer9) Oliver Kahn10) Helmut Rahn
>>158368525Messi has to be a psyop. He's so overrated.
>>158384061Why? If your argument is "b-b-but look at these big games he lost" the same applies to other GOATs like Maldini, Baggio, Fat Ronaldo, Zidane, etc. All the best players have lost their fair share of big matches.
>>158384061The thing is he might not be the best free kick taker or the best dribbeler or the best goal scorer but he comes a second best on all attacking like play making . Beckham maight be a better free kick player , zidan might be a better midfield , Ronaldo might be a better goal scorer but non of them combine all skills he is basically above average on all attack while others may be elite in one or two aspect but lack the rest . He can play a very poor game but makes a great assist or scores a free kick or creat a deadly chance out of nothing and that is sometimes enough to win a game
surprisingly good lists in this thread
1. Messi2. Maradona3. Batistuta4. Riquelme 5. Di Maria6. Zanetti7. Crespo8. Agüero9. Alvarez10. Heinze
>>158368525>Cristiano Ronaldo>Mbappé>Ronaldo Nazario>Ronaldinho>Messi>Neymar>Zidane>Haaland>Pogba>Bale
>>158381486>pov: you're indian and started watching football in 2013
1. Messi2. Zidane3. R94. Maradona 5. Maldini6. Pele7. Garrincha8. Ronaldinho9. CR710. Cruyff
1. Hummels2. R93. Zizou4. CR95-10. idc
>>158396616CR7* lmaoadd 4-2
>>158395903Wait, put Tevez for Heinze.
>>158395903Redondo, Passarella, and Mascherano deserve to be on here. Maybe Sivori, Kempes, Aimar and Ortega in the 8-10 spots as well.
>>158398494>>158395903Combined list for Uruguay, Chile, and Colombia, the only relevant CONMEBOL nations besides Argentina/Brazil:Luis SuarezDiego GodinEnzo Francescoli Arturo VidalDiego ForlanRadamel FalcaoEdinson CavaniIvan CordobaAlexis SanchezIvan Zamorano
1/2 - Messi/Pele3/4 - Maradona/Salah5 - Kante6/7 - Cruiyff/Vini(pre-surgery)8/9 - Khune/Modric10 - 08 Cristiano/Suarez/OzilXI:GK - Khune (Oblak, Neuer)DF - Militao, Rudiger, Bonucci (Carvajal, Demiral, Khoulibaly, Kim)DMF - Casemiro, Kante (Toure, Rakitic)MF - Modric (Valverde, De Bruyne, Gerrard)AMF - Ozil (Cruiyph, Maradona)RW - Messi (Di Maria, Salah)LW - Vini (Kvara)STR - Kane (Lewa, Suarez, Endrick)Coach - Allegri (Ancelotti, Flick)Too much individuality kills balance and coordination. This team is simply to win the next game.
>>158399101...Rudiger? Kim?
>Messi>The rest of the usual top players always mentioned in these discussions>CR7>A few other really good players>Power gap>Every other player who has ever lived>Power gap>Another power gap>Mbappe
Messi...RonaldoRonaldinho...C.RonaldoZidaneHenrySuarezIniestaTottiRivaldo
>>158399101Oblak?
>>158398494I did think about adding Kempes and Aimar. The 5-10 spots of any list gets tricky and comes down to personal taste.>>158399101This must be a troll. Who the fuck is Khune? Salah, Kante, Vini and Özil for your top 10 is crazy as well.And that squad is a total joke.>ngubu defence>Özil over Cruyff and Maradona>fucking Vini>Kane over Lewa and Suarez>fucking Endrick
1. Tom Brady2. Dan Marino3. Joe Montana4. Peyton Manning5. John Elway6. Aaron Rodgers7. Johnny Unitas8. Drew Brees9. Brett Favre10. Otto Graham
>>158407516not a real sport
>>158407516Calling brady the goat is such a low iq take. Hes mediocre in every statistical category. Luck exists.
>Cristiano Ronaldoextremely boring player. his only highlights are goals, and his only goals are tap-ins and penalties. you would only include him in such a list if you think looking at a statistic is amazing.
>>1583685251 - Pele2 - Messi3 - Ronaldo4 - Ronaldinho5 - Cristiano Ronaldo6 - Maldini7 - Neymar8 - Maradona9 - Garrincha10 - Zidane
PeleMessiMaradonaCR7CruyffBeckenbauerR9ZidanePuskasPlantiniHM: Charlton, Garrincha, Di Stefano, Eusebio, Van Basten, Maldini, Baresi.
1. Maradona
>>1583685251. Lionel Messi2. Cristiano Ronaldo3. Pelé4. Diego Maradona5. Johan Cruyff6. Franz Beckenbauer7. Ronaldo Nazário8. Paolo Maldini9. Zinedine Zidane10. Luka Modrić
>>158374326bodied that freak
Why don't you guys include him in your lists?I'm pretty sure you guys haven't seen enough Neymar games. He's the best dribbler in history. Top scorer for Brazil.
>>158368525CruyffMessiMaradonaPeléRonaldoRonaldinhoVan BastenIniestaMaldiniLitmanen
It's really retarded to list players you've never seen play.1. Messi2. Ronaldo (real Ronaldo)3. Ronaldinho4. Cristiano Ronaldo5. Zidane6. Iniesta7. Bergkamp8. Mbappe9. Modric10. Roberto Carlos (best LB of all time)
>>158407502>Who the fuck is Khune?Some south african league legend apparently lel
1. Ronaldo Nazario2. Ronaldinho 3. Pele4. Cruyff5. Maldini6. Van Basten7. Cristiano Ronaldo8. Maradona 9. Messi10. Rooney
1. fat ronaldo2. zidane3, jacek krzynówek
1. R92. Totti3. Del Piero4. Raul5. Maldini6. Nesta7. J. Zanetti8. Batistuta9. Beckham10. Hagibonus: Kazuyoshi Miura
1. Cristiano Ronaldo2. Maradonarest i don't give a shit, TSUUUUUUUU
1. 2009 - 2015 Messi2. Ronaldinho3. Iniesta4. Cristiano5. R96. Pirlo 7. Kaka8. 2016 - 2026 Messi9. Wayne Rooney10. Frank Lampard
>>158368525Maradona - good. Pele - better. George Best.
George BestEric Cantona Fat RonaldoRonaldoRoy Keane MessiRuud Van NistelrooySchmeichel Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Bryan Robson