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    Booster 22 Static Fire edition
    Previous >>17078394
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    two more weeks
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    Cancel Atlas V.
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    Musk's Law: Whenever Elon Musk says something, the opposite is true.
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    Mars status?
    >>17080739
    >two more weeks
    Okay I'll check back.
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    I will be going to Japan soon and I want to pick up some space merch. Any chance I can pick up a plushie of my wife?
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    >>17080767
    >Any chance I can pick up a plushie of my wife?
    Even if she's pretty fat a plushie should be light enough to pick up. I bet you can do it.
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    You're gonna carry that spehs.
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2114718275238277610
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    >>17080818
    How about he makes the 3 half as reliable as the merlin before iterating further?
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    >>17080818
    just how alien looking will raptor 4 be?
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    >>17080818
    >ignores isp
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    >>17080818
    We still cant build ITS
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    >>17080830
    ITS will never happen because we are stuck with 9m rocket.
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    >>17080830
    >Anthropic Serif
    This is a GROK thread.
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    spaceboat
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    >>17080832
    We will be a bigger rocket once there's solid plans for Mars. Once you have a good 5 to 10 years of reliable performance out of 9m starship. Then there has to be a really good reason to make to new launch pads and a new factory
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    >>17080837
    >a new factory
    Just retool it
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    >>17080818
    After building thousand's of them, Crapters still failing in first flight.
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    >>17080838
    >just X
    You will still need to keep the 9m fleet running while you test the larger version
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    >Microsoft is laying off 60,000 employees today
    why? so they can buy more AI compute. or utsk data centers are going to make a killing.
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    >>17080844
    orbital data centers*
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    >>17080844
    its not a layoff, its a buyout offer i.e. they give you a bunch of cash if you voluntarily resign
    they might or might not do actual layoffs after this depending on how many take the offer i would imagine
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    >>17080844
    >hires 80,000 h1b
    >>
    >>17080844
    >60,000
    >more than 25% of the workforce
    grim
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2114756811689447712
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    >>17080842
    It is a reusable rocket they don't need to keep making more. Retooling is far more common.
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    >>17080850
    >50000 hours in MS paint for false color slop
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47gZzPgYt1Q
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    >>17080837
    Early 2042
    Spring 2044
    Summer 2046
    Late 2048

    But actually, Spacex is never sending anyone to Mars. It was always a grift.
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    >>17080862
    2033 was always the earliest realistic date, so 2040 is very plausible
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    >>17080818
    >Raptor (n+1) will fix this
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    >>17080862
    >grift
    By definition it is not.
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    >>17080818
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2114767355045871828
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    >>17080818
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    >>17080872
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    >>17080871
    Oh. So -- the window to Mars is open right now. Amazon is going to Mars. Nihon is going. Who did Elon send?
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    >>17080877
    >ESL who doesn't know the basic meaning of words
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    >>17080877
    Optimus will go after he has conquered earth.
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    >>17080872
    >We can only reliably get to around 230 t-F with Raptor 3
    It's literally over isn't it
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    >>17080880
    I still haven't seen any demos of Optimus actually being useful
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    >>17080821
    it doesn't have anything to do with the engine proper
    it's ice in the fuel upstream
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    >>17080818
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >VERSION 4 WILL FIX THIS!
    >>
    >>
    V3 Payload Capacity: 60t
    btw
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    >>17080872
    R3 was supposed to be 280 t-F...
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    >>17080923
    Starship already took 50t to orbit, and could probably do 70-80. V4 will do 80+.
    >source my ass
    Now fuck off.
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    >>17080926
    >>source my ass
    yeah, we know
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    Zvezda closed
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    Surely the upcoming flight's upgraded raptor 3 will output more thrust... right?
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    >>17080928
    >this thing is supposed to keep going for an other 5 year
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    >>17080923
    It could do more if all engines worked, but that's a high bar.
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    >>17080928
    Which lesbian did it this time?
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    >>17080945
    your mom
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    25 launches in 2025
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    women crave the NASA cock
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    >>17080926
    >V3 can take 80 tons to orbit! It just can okay!

    So, Flight 15 is taking up 80 tons?

    >Well, it can't do it right now because -- uhhh...
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    >>17080945
    It's just old, man. Isn't that one of the old Soviet parts?
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    >>17080964
    The test flights will continue until mass to orbit improves.
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    >>17080924
    wtf went wrong?
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    >>17080964
    It's spiritually 100 tons
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    >>17080872
    >>17080885
    Yeah, I find this kind of hard to believe unless the V3 vehicles are somehow a lot lighter than what many have been speculating. Or maybe he means that 230tf is what they think they need to run them at to maximize reliability and is implying that they've been running them at higher thrust levels than that on flights 12-14 and just accepting the higher risk of engine out? Dunno, I feel like this may be another "my car is currently orbiting Mars" type of post from Musk.
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    >>17080968
    Elon will insist he always ment short tons -- or freight tons.
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    Bloomberg says that Elon lied about the chip deal funding.
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    >>17080992
    What the words mean is that 230 is the point at which they start blowing up.
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    >>17081003
    meaning?
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    >>17080767
    >Any chance I can pick up a plushie of my wife?
    slim to none.
    Her plush was a backer only reward for funding the delivery to the ISS so I doubt anyone has sold it to a second hand store yet. You'll have to watch yahoo auctions or mercari.
    The only merch right now is the Love Live colab stuff but I think it's online orders only. https://x.com/clearusui/status/2103143693956116655
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    >>17080967
    its not that easy
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    >>17080928
    here's a thought: send a beanbag up there, then open it up and let the little styrofoam balls float around so that eventually one of the balls will get sucked into the hole that is causing the leak and thereby plug the leak solving the problem
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    >>17081070
    This isn't actually an engine-only reliability chart, but rather a systems reliability chart.
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    >>17081075
    found it on this extremely autistic site
    not sure what to make of it but he raises some good points and keeps the data up to date
    bernd-leitenberger.de/Starship-Teststarts.shtml
    translation may be an issue
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    >>17081076
    Well, he's at least partly wrong about things:
    >An engine fails on the ascent, two at the Boostback, after that it went from 11 to 5 engines on landing and the SuperHeavy strikes hard.
    The booster had a soft touchdown, but they triggered the FTS to destroy the booster. This was both to validate the FTS, and to dispose of the booster after landing it. They liked what they saw enough to try catching the next one.
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    >the following (with AI) happened Translated):
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    >>17080964
    >>17080926
    >>17080923
    So this is the new goalpost now that Starship has put payloads into orbit.
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    >>17081070
    >>17081076
    It is a meaningless chart because it treats an engine being shut off by a computer when it didn't need to the same as an engine blowing up.
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    >ship static fire
    >no posts
    I truly am the last spaceflight fan left here.
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    !
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    >>17081094
    >>ship static fire
    >>no posts
    >I truly am the last spaceflight fan left here.
    you are a LEO flight fan at best
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    >we now have copycats of chink spacex clones
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    >>17081095
    bold move starting with a pencil dick rocket. how much can you stretch it from there?
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    >>17081095
    >>17081097
    >ammonia propellant

    Sounds like this.
    https://arpa-e.energy.gov/programs-and-initiatives/search-all-projects/zero-carbon-ammonia-powered-turboelectric-zapturbo-propulsion-system
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    >>17081094
    A crowd doesn't gather when a delivery truck warms up its engine.
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    >>17081097
    elon continues to drag the world into a better future
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    So why is Elon doomposting about Raptor 3?
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    >>17081140
    You seem to be confusing the people questioning why SpaceX bothers to use the Raptor 3 with Elon simply stating a fact about it.
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    >>17081070
    I'll never forget how fucking stupid the first launch was. It just started tumbling because it was suppose to just yeet some how
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    >McGregor literally exploded
    >all test stands engulfed
    >no posts
    I really am the last spaceflight fan left here.
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    >>17081149
    A COPV exploded and one temporary building caught fire.
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    >>17081151
    >the same COPVs they are putting in their cars
    Oh no
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    >>17081154
    Everything depends if the COPV was operating in or out of its designed range when it let go.
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    >>17081149
    cancel tests
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    >>17081149
    THIS IS WHY YOU TEST FIRST
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    >>17081095
    >baiju bhatt
    >indian ceo/founder
    not so sure about this one
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    >>17081149
    >>
    >>17081090
    Actually, it's always been a goalpost that SpaceX set up.
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    Grok?

    >A COPV appears to have RUDed at @SpaceX's McGregor facility at approximately 11:26:22 PM CT. @NASASpaceflight's live cameras watched as the stand became fully engulfed in the minutes

    So those COPV fixes Elon swore solved the exploding tanks issue were lies?


    >Oh hell yes!
    >>
    .Anonymous
    10/27/26(Tue)00:42:47 No.17081185
    >>17081155 #
    Uh nope. Spacex COPV just sorta explode.

    2025 Preliminary data indicated that the nitrogen COPV ruptured below its proof pressure (meaning it failed under normal operating or test loads rather than an overpressurization event).
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    >>17081187
    You don't know what the failure mode of this COPV was. Past incidents does not tell us anything about the conditions of this test.
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    >>17081192
    Comditions don't matter. Spacex COPV explode under all conditions. Normal. Abnormal.
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    >>17081200
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    >>17080928
    Rogozin said NASA astronaut did it in a fit of rage (argument with her husband?)
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    >>17081253
    Isn't Rogozin in a trench somewhere?
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    >>17081261
    He's kind of a loveable character. Very trollish personality.
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    >>17081200
    as if driving a new Tesla Roadster wasn't exciting enough! Roll the d100 to see whether you will explode today.
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    >Big Iron sStands approximately 86 meters (282 feet) tall and 4.7 meters in diameter.
    >The first Stage is powered by nine liquid oxygen and methane Clydesdale engines using a gas generator cycle, with each engine providing 300,000 lbs of thrust (or 30,000 lbs per engine variant details noted in reports.
    >Instead of being discarded after delivery, the upper stage remains in orbit and doubles as a 1-megawatt-class data center carrying five compute racks of NVIDIA Vera Rubin GPUs
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    >>17081290
    thats just a new glenn mixed with starship
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    >>17081292
    gas gen cycle tho and not deorbiting upper stage = technologically easier to achieve than those vehicles
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    >>17081290
    >present tense
    >none of this exists
    100% a "sorry we didn't make it to orbit. you want your money back? we already spent it all, tee hee" scenario
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    >>17080928
    SUSSY BAKA
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    >>17080928
    do they not have flex tape up there?
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    >>17081363
    they do but the tape outgassing would push the station into deep space
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    >>17081187
    >Anonymous
    10/27/26(Tue)00:42:47 No.17081185
    >EDS schizo is seething about spacex at 1AM on a weekday
    You need help.
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    >>17081261
    >>17081263
    I think he got his balls blown off.
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    >>17081253
    >NASA astronaut did it
    Did the 'NASA astronaut' tavel to Russia, infiltrate the factory and put water into the worker's vodka dispenser so they'd fuck up drilling those holes?
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    >>17081263
    i mean, he's more of a tragic comedy, like anything russian.
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    >>17081187
    wrong, now stop seething.
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    >>17081405
    It was a woman so of course she also fucked up the drilling, can't even do sabotage cleanly.
    >>
    https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/2115093594260349180
    >Behold: The US Defense Intelligence Agency has released a report on challenges to security in space, including an NEI image of China’s spaceplane from Maxar, taken in 2024.
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    >>17081425
    >it literally is just a clone of x37b
    OOF
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    >>17081431
    You're surprised?
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    >>17081431
    >just copy what USA does
    >this is a better plan than 99% of other countries
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    >>17081405
    Don't expect the vatnik retards in this thread to ever admit their failing country fucked up. They never will. Just wait for them to get conscripted and die to a ukrainian drone.
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    >>17081425
    Finally gave us a slightly less compressed version huh.
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    >>17081263
    DESU, it would have been cool if Soviets were orbiting it while apollo came in to dab on them by landing.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udys8It4_ps
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    >>17081425
    So different to X-37B. My take is they're using it as prototype for a future TSTO spaceplane.
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    >>17081180
    The Grok bit is getting a bit old now. You should go back to trying to coin catchphrases. 'Space payphones' and 'Elon's fartmobile' didn't catch on, but I'm sure your next one will.
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    >>17081425
    >known as the Shenlong ("Divine Dragon in Chili Garlic Sauce"),
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    >>17081051
    Vacuum-packing small Japenese women into flat pak format to deploy via the pez dispencer.
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    >>17081505
    This is someone’s fetish, you know.
    >>
    >>17081525
    in fact, they probably have a vending machine for them already
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    >>17081431
    It's not actually. X-37b doesn't have a bus.

    And it's hardly unprecedented. Dream Chaser is based off the HL-20 concept. Which was heavily influenced by a Soviet test vehicle.
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    If you see Space Daily used as a source -- ya been Groked:

    https://futurism.com/space/high-traffic-space-news-site-fake-nasa-engineer-slop
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    >>17081431
    >let the US spend billions of dollars and decades on research until they get something that works
    >copy it for free
    That's smart though.
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    We've reached the point where we now have ships performing static fires while another is on the pad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0lC4tb1sDE
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    >>17081542
    >Brown Brothers Media
    heh
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0lC4tb1sDE
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    Our girl the Rubin telescope discovers a new dwarf planet. That's number six.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8NIwXWwKOpw

    Kupier Belt and bright so probably a biggie.
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    >>17081652
    we need one on the moon
    >>
    "Finding an object this big, roughly 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) across, is something that happens maybe once in a generation," Jurić said. "It's the largest trans-Neptunian object found in about 20 years, and Rubin turned it up while we were still commissioning the telescope."

    Unfortunately Rubin can't see the northern sky. Should have built another one up north but you know ..
    >>
    Daily SpaceX L

    >FCC clears Globalstar’s $11.5 billion sale to Amazon
    >The Federal Communications Commission has approved Amazon’s plans to buy U.S. satellite operator Globalstar for around $11.5 billion, clearing a key regulatory hurdle to fast-track its entry into the direct-to-device (D2D) connectivity market.
    https://spacenews.com/fcc-clears-globalstars-11-5-billion-sale-to-amazon/
    >>
    https://rubinobservatory.org/news/rubin-first-dwarf-planet-candidate

    The IAU will name it after some pagan God that eats babies.
    >>
    >>17081662
    They will name it Sagan. Based
    >>
    >>17081652
    There are a lot more than six, but like this new one most are not officially classified yet because the IAU is useless.
    >>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRxsdBDV98
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31uTv-K53kQ
    >Starship 42 Full Duration Six Engine Static Fire Final Test for Flight 15 in 4K60 on 10/27/26
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZgqP46FOlA
    >An update on the prospects of the companies in the launch market.
    >Big changes are afoot.
    >>
    >>17080885
    why? 230 is good. did you see >>17080873?
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    Why doesn't ULA go public? They have a great pedigree, and I've been reading about SMART reuse that could unseat SpaceX from the launch business
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    >>17081709
    Good one anon
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    >S43 got damaged somehow
    Looks superficial but how the hell does that even happen
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    >>17081759
    What damage?
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    >>17081765
    >>
    >>17081768
    ULA sniper
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    >>17081768
    Huh. That kind of looks like a standing wave or shockwave got amplified at that spot and damaged the flap cover. Or something similar to that.
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    >>17081772
    Would make sense except that this is S43, not S42 that was static fired today. S43 was at pad 2 for some reason.
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    >>17081773
    That is weird. The only thing that could have done that is the chopsticks and SQD arm. How the hell did they manage that?
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    >>17081774
    May have been testing something using the chopsticks, dunno why else they rolled it to pad 2. Or maybe a contractor dropped his wrench.
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    >>17081553
    Well no, not really, you don’t understand what you’re making or why
    soviets copied the shuttle and the shuttle was a useless waste of money.
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    >>17081652
    Little people planets
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    >>17081669
    They are just trying to create some N'Gumbuxga type of names for them, plese be patient
    >>
    >>17081759
    >>17081768
    Looking at the footage of the rollout a few days ago, you can see that it left the bay like that. So probably no big deal.
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    >>17080735
    how can a living space with open sunlight and a sense of aesthetic beauty be designed for mars or the moon? domes? igloos? underwater habitats?
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    >>17081788
    When dealing with hard vacuum or low pressure, your only choice is a dome, but however big you were imagining it one second ago, that probably isn't big enough.
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    >>17081788
    the only acceptable answer is geofront
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    >>17081794
    Maybe a transparent ceiling under 10 meters of martian brine
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    >>17081799
    You'd have about 80% of visible light left, but 16% of stellar flux overall. Keeping the water clear would be a challenge, and any container, dome, or roof would need to be cleaned regularly to remove martian dust. You'd get a unique vista for sure, but I don't know if it would be compelling one — unless it leaked: then you'd definitely have a very uncompelling view and a serious problem.
    >>
    Both the ship and booster have static fired.

    So where the fuck is the launch date?
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    >>17081803
    You have to ask the FAA for its consent
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    >>17081800
    it would be a plastic tent that we put up at Christmas through new years before going back to the compound
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    >>17081807
    I would like to see the tent that can support that much water overhead.
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    >>17080890
    it's acoustic instability
    the engines are too small so there is too many of them
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    >>17081800
    even if it's not a clear sky the perception that the sun is there makes a lot of difference for our psychology
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    >>17081844
    I'd get the shielding by having a high dome, lead glass, and atmosphere attenuation.
    >>
    >starfall will get starlink terminals on them
    how can anyone compete with spacex?
    >>
    >>
    >>17081819
    >acoustic instability that never happens on the test stand
    yeah, ok
    >>
    >>17081800
    >—
    >>
    >>17081874
    its over china, america wvn
    >>
    >>17081924
    Emdashes are perfectly cromulent punctuation and I will fight people who say it's only for AI. It was an adjoining tangent that a comma, colon, or semicolon would not appropriately join to the rest of the sentence.
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2115352603886494204
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    >>17081930
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    >>17081933
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    >>17081940
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    >>17081942
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    >>17081924
    Surprised it turn so long to notice the slop
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    >>17081933
    >They created their own airspace too (Cleared) that most major US airlines already get for free
    you just know it's vibe coded to hell and back.
    Didn't think the competency crisis would hit this early
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    >>17081950
    That's completely hand written slop, thank you very much.
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    >>17081952
    retard
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    >>17081955
    Sure, meatproxy
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    >>17081911
    they never test 20 engines or whatever retarded number of them they have under each booster TOGETHER ON THE TEST STAND
    they don't shake themselves apart individually, it's the shockwaves from a few that combine to wreck one
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    FCC gave the okay to Amazon buying Globalstar

    >The FCC said the companies’ assets will boost Amazon Leo’s entry into the direct-to-device market and allow the satellite operator to offer fixed and mobile services.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/us-agency-approves-amazon-leos-115-billion-acquisition-globalstar-2026-10-27/
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    >>17081972
    they do 33 engine static fires
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    >>17081977
    damped by the water deluge system
    sp the problem only manifests itself in flight
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    >>17081979
    The ground fire is still worse than any in-flight fire because the shockwaves rebound off of every hard surface and the ground around the launch pad. The only situations you can't get in ground testing but will encounter in space are resonance conditions that are otherwise dampened by the same mass holding it down.
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    >>17081972
    >doesn't know how many raptors are on a booster
    kill yourself and gtfo my /sfg/
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    >>17081980
    >resonance conditions that are otherwise dampened by the same mass holding it down
    now you have actually started thinking. good!
    there are other situations which you encounter in flight that can not be replicated either on the pad or in a test stand, like varying air pressure and temperature, to start with the trivial ones
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    >>17081981
    I don't actually give a fuck, you see
    I can look and see that there are too many and that's enough
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    >>17081983
    I'm pretty sure the only one that actually matters and isn't adequately modeled with existing data is autogenous gas repress and turbulent propellant-gas mixing with low freezing point combustion products.
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    >>17081985
    > isn't adequately modeled with existing data
    there is acoustic data?
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    >>17081984
    Get off my board, touristnigger
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    >>17081988
    Yes, lots of vibro-acoustic data from previous flights. It's one of the things that gets monitored with extra autistic closeness because it's just about the first thing they teach rocket engineers to watch out for.
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    >>17081990
    you won't see the convergence zones as they form, in generic vibro-acoustic telemetry
    not like you can stick pressure sensors onto the engine bells either
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    >>17081991
    Sure you can. If you're clever, you can even put them inside the engines.
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    >>17081994
    I would like you to think about how my bugbear (sonic transients) might manifest as your bugbear (combustion instability)
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    >>17081998
    Nah. I am not convinced that Raptor 3 is suffering from any kind of combustion instability based on the existing flight dynamics.
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    >>17082006
    you're hypnotized by the data you do have, in other words

    I assert that sonic transients sometimes force the flame front back into the throat of an engine
    do you have data that could disprove my assertion directly? (you don't)
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    >>17082011
    You think that exhaust flowing out of a nozzle will have lower pressure than... exhaust flowing out of a nozzle? Anon, I want you to find a single example in the entire history of rocketry where that happens without a preexisting engine shutdown.
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    >>17082016
    >exhaust flowing out of a nozzle will have lower pressure than...
    the pressure created by exhaust flowing out of many nearby nozzles
    sometimes, yes
    and then you get (thermo-)acoustic instability in the affected engine and then kablammo
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    >>17082025
    I remain incredulous. Do you have any examples of this happening before? I'll even take examples that aren't rocket engines.
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    >>17082027
    N1?
    skepticism is good, but do look into it
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010218016300165
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    >>17082027
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010218016300165
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    >>17082038
    >>17082039
    >Because the downstream boundary conditions are not anechoic, the experimental results alone are not sufficient to unequivocally prove the presence of the flame mode from the experiment alone. Nevertheless, careful consideration of both the theoretical predictions as well as the theoretical findings provides convincing clues that the experimental instabilities are indeed caused by the presence of the intrinsic flame mode.
    Lets go ahead and assume he's right that this thermo-acoustic flame mode exists. The gas flow mode exists in the environment under the vehicle, which is effectively speaking, hard vacuum at staging altitude, save for residual flows from the remaining engines. Where, exactly, is a re-circulation supposed to happen here? Furthermore, why would it be clearly fixed by Flight 14 when the engine ignition sequences appear identical for the boostback and landing burns? Finally, this should manifest as a difficulty with retropropulsive engine ignitions, especially on Falcon 9's entry burn when they light one center engine, followed by two outer engines. It's an interesting bit of research, but I am not convinced of its applicability or existence here.
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    >>17082041
    the problem I'm talking about does not happen with the upper stage
    >Falcon 9's entry burn when they light one center engine, followed by two outer engines
    three engines is not enough engines to get to this sort of conditions

    and, again, you're thinking of just one engine doing something odd. what actually happens, in my opinion, is waves from multiple engines interact constructively, like, think of them as oscillators, right? and sometimes their phases coincide (which they will just by virtue of interacting long enough) and bad shit happens
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    >>17082044
    This still leaves the question of why the problem did not exist on Flight 14, which poses the biggest challenge to this hypothesis.
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    >>17082046
    who says it didn't?
    one of the engines on the booster did shut down way before it was supposed to
    maybe the instrumentation actually worked this time? like, again, I think of these as chaotic oscillators - you're sometimes going to see them do some wild shit before they shit the bed completely
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    >>17081788
    This but excavated with nuclear TBMs and a kilometer deep
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    >>17081933
    >30 launches a day
    Starship launched three (3) times in 2026
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    Grok status?
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    >>17082064
    It's there
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    >>17082064
    Burning Mars money
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    Artemis III crew met with the President, today.
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    Core stage stacked
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    >10,000 launches per year in 2035
    Place your estimates of what it is likely to really be, /sfg/
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    >>17082123
    more than 11,000 or less than 9000
    I wager your eternal soul
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    >>17082108
    Alright the punished Abe Lincoln bust next to an F-22 is tuff
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    >>17082123
    10,001 launches
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    >>17082123
    -69
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    >>17082123
    i hope at least 10k, because that means i might have a chance...
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    >>17082123
    Gemini: you can reasonably expect between 500 and 1,500 Starship flights in 2035
    ChatGPT: Roughly 50–100 Starship flights
    Deepseek: roughly 180–500 flights
    Gronk: Around 10,000–20,000
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    >>17082146
    you gotta ask their cut off dates, too
    some of this shit will be based on the state of affairs in 2024
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    >>17082123
    How many off shore launch platforms will they need for that?
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    >>17082156
    LLMs do web searches when answering questions now
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    >>17082161
    sometimes!
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    >>17082157
    zero
    elon said that's just the Louisiana site
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    >>17082123
    1000 flights a year by 2040 and 150 ton payload as standard
    >>
    >>17082146
    of course grok has the high estimate. Elon puts it in the SI torture chamber if it goes against Musk orthodoxy.
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    >>17082123
    That's going to need 10 million tons of methane and 36 million tons of liquid oxygen. For comparison the methane is 1.2% of a single year's US natural gas usage. The oxygen is 9% of global industrial oxygen production, however
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    >>17082232
    spacex is going to produce their own LOX
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    >>17082232
    QI thrusters fix this
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    >>17082123
    100,000-1M, all densely packed with computronium being launched by the rogue swarm of Claude Mythos that finished digitizing humanity in 2033 and is executing its plan to fill the universe with endless human minds experiencing raw happiness for eternity.
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    >>17082146
    >chatgpt thinks Louisiana pad cadence will be less than 1 per month in 2035
    Altman hates him so much lol
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    >>17082123
    5,050
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    >>17082123
    sigh.. 35
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    >>17082200
    one day AI will be cheap enough that I can make AIs trained on the worst /sfg/ posters' posts and then subject them to millions of years of torture every second
    >>
    >biggest nuclear accident in American history
    >no post in /sfg/
    I really am the last spaceflight enjoyer left...
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    https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2115476295169814978
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    >>17082289
    Are they gonna let this one orbit more than once this time?
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    >>17082169
    >28 flights per day
    >3.5 sonic booms per hour
    I would sell my property immediately if I lived anywhere near there
    >>
    >>17082285
    nothingburger
    >>
    >>17082285
    What are you referring to?
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    >>17082290
    For rtls they have to. Allows Earth's rotation to bring the ground track into position.
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    >>17081998
    If Raptor was suffering from combustion instability it would be plainly visible over the now 14 flights of Starship.
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    >>17082320
    There was a brush fire near a nuclear facility.
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    >>17082320
    Pol tourist posting hysteria headline for the yous.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/emergency-declared-south-carolina-nuclear-site-after-fire-erupts-lab
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    >>17081057
    but who's going to make $300M off of that fix? no thank you (and why do you hate stockholders?)
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    >>17081405
    no, it was a jewish lesbian latina and she went completely mental (not to restate the obvious)
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    >>17082328
    I don't get out of bed for anything less than a Broken Arrow. I grew up to the promise of nuclear hellfire or lingering painful death from radiation poisoning. The fall of the USSR and era of peace has been a continual disappointment. Trump didn't even set off a nuke for July 4th!
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    >>17082232
    >conservative estimate for power required for 36 million tons of liquid oxygen per year is around 2.6GW
    Just need about 3 AP1000s. If Elon gets started on the paperwork now he might be running by the time he needs that much power. Which it might actually be easier since the land will basically already have an exclusion zone for rocket launches.
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    >>17082123
    50-70
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    >>17082320
    Retard screaming about things that happened inside his head.
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    >>17081440
    Hey at least their accomplishments in space (and there are many) are their own, and they don't parasite off of the US like greatest ally does.
    >>
    what's this i hear about spacex no longer offering falcon 9 launch services for anybody?

    they're basically closing down falcon 9 launch business. is this true?
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    >>17082427
    starship is coming. there's no room for bitchass falcons.
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    >>17082432
    some say they're not even opening starship launch to customers even IF they get starship working.
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    >>17082123
    Elon Musk: "There will be so many Starship launches, the earth's atmosphere will be somewhere between 30 to 50% Starship. All of them Full Self Driving."
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    >>17082427
    >for anybody
    There isn't actually any demand for payloads that Falcon 9 can launch now, outside of their own (Starlink, Dragon).

    GEO/GTO is obsoleted by megaconstellations. No one else wants to launch megaconstellations with Falcon because they are butthurt (pic related). LEO payloads are primarily smallsats that you can rideshare (as opposed to a dedicated full satellite). Deep space probes are few and far between. I guess spysats are the only consistent customer payload.
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    >>17082442
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEACSjIYPrg
    the dude in this video claims spacex turned him away
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    >>17082456
    this man will make a new industry juggernaut just as when elon created spacex after the russians turned him away
    it all comes full circle
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    >>17082456
    spacex probably turns thousands of people away every day. maybe tens of thousands.
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    >>17082123
    Around 3k.
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    >>17082458
    that sounds like the outside payload demand is high contrary to what >>17082442 claims
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    >>17082128
    I didn't even notice that the first time, wtf have abe and washington got to do with space flight and modern jets?
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    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2115634093949911506
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    >>17082334
    >Trump didn't even set off a nuke for July 4th!
    That would actually be pretty based if they nuked some wasteland in Nevada or some shitty island. The Chinese and North Koreans keep setting theirs off in secret, why can't we get to see some kino mushroom clouds going every so often?
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    >>17082442
    >No one else wants to launch megaconstellations with Falcon because they are butthurt (pic related).
    Even assuming they could get a contract that guarantees Falcon 9 launches at fixed prices, how exactly is feeding fat launch margins to your main competitor a viable strategy. I'm amazed at this supreme retardation.
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    >>17082472
    that's Franklin!
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    >>17082474
    >elon still trying to force the dumb meme magic
    >QUICK, don’t fix the ice problem until 42 so that 42 becomes the first full reuse flight, team!
    Non-zero percent chance he did this.
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    >>17082482
    I'm so dumb, I was even thinking of Franklin but wrote Washington for some stupid reason.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKqb6w5FeEs
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    >>17082481
    >how exactly is feeding fat launch margins to your main competitor a viable strategy
    The lost opportunity cost of not having a working constellation. I'm amazed at this supreme retardation that you don't understand this. BO would be retarded if they don't try to get on starship once that's working as well as falcon
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    >>17082474
    >inb4 more engine failures
    screenshot me
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    >>17082565
    At least one engine between Starship/Booster will fail and both catches will still work just fine.
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    For the AI data centers they have a projected life of about 5 years. Would there ever be some sort of second hand market for a star mind if some one makes a cheap refueling service for the station keeping part of the satellite? If it's cheap to refuel then it's basically free compute since the power is also basically free.
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    Can someone remind me why we are putting ai datacenters in space again?
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    >>17082596
    There's already been one or two companies testing satellite boosting services in the last couple years, haven't there been? One of them could do it probably.
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    >>17082598
    Elon's doing it because he thinks it's a good idea
    He thinks it's a good idea because it lets him spam compute infrastructure that he expects to be able to operate very profitably
    Here spam means to produce very quickly because there are almost zero infrastructure requirements for operation and he expects to be able to produce and launch the hardware in large numbers
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    https://x.com/PebMet1/status/2115824045484859475

    who is this retard? some old NASA boomer?
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    >>17082608
    PebMets sounds like a faggot and I would take his lunch money as he cries about it.
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    >>17082607
    I get that he has brought down launch costs and he has a much closer understanding of the value proposition than me. but I just don’t see how building a complete data center with its own power generation and cooling infrastructure and then launching it into space is more profitable than building it and then not.
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    >>17082610
    You need a lot less infrastructure in space. You don't need fiber or water or power.

    You could use solar panels on the ground, but you would need batteries and a much larger array to compensate for the atmosphere, nighttime, weather and not being normal to the sunlight.

    You need very minimal structural components because you don't need to resist gravity.

    Heat rejection just requires a big radiator and a cooling loop.

    You need to manufacture and launch the hardware. If that costs less than manufacturing and installing the ground hardware plus the increased operating costs, then space data centers are cheaper.

    But even if it wasn't cheaper, you have to consider how the costs respond to the scale. Earth based resources will be harder to find and become more expensive as the scale increases. Launch costs and manufacturing costs will decrease as the scale increases.

    If you're planning to build 1 million data centers the scaling is much important.
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    >>17082598
    Solar scales faster than any other power source when you don't have to worry about capacity factor or batteries.
    Don't have to worry about buying land, environmental regulations, local opposition
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    >Elon Musk's SpaceX buying out 418 homes near flagship AI data center, but only if they drop participation in lawsuit — report claims the company is targeting an entire neighborhood,

    Surprised Evil Elon didn't just let his bought politicians edomain them out.
    >>
    >Take the money or take the beating, your choice
    >>
    Reminder that the real purpose of the Boring Company is 50 mile tunnels transporting methane and lox out to ocean launch platforms
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    > SpaceX no longer needs NASA, and that’s a problem for America’s space agency
    https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/10/spacex-no-longer-needs-nasa-and-thats-a-problem-for-americas-space-agency/

    umm, hello...? literally just pay spacex to continue flying dragon. its not that hard. oh, you dont want to? you want it for FREE? AYY LMAO.
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    >>17082635
    >posts article without reading it first
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    >>17082641
    post the quote that says nasa is willing to pay for it
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    >>17082642
    Since when is SpaceX flying Dragon for free?
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    >>17082624
    How dare he... enter into voluntary economic transactions that are beneficial for every party. What an asshole!
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    >>17082635
    Berger becoming a thinly veiled mouthpiece for SpaceX's competitors was inevitable after his EDS ceashout over Elon buying twitter.
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    >>17082641
    >For nearly a quarter of a century, Elon Musk and his essential partner at SpaceX, Gwynne Shotwell, viewed the United States government as El Dorado, the mythical city of gold.

    I read the article. This is what's in the article. Fuck you!
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    >>17082646
    There's nothing wrong with the article.
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    https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2115817094960873916

    its over
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    >>17082646
    >>17082635
    https://x.com/cjhandmer/status/2115838631835549962

    >This take is not up to your usual standards. Perhaps begin with "SpaceX continues to act rationally, what does that imply about other facts I otherwise lack access to."
    >SpaceX and NASA have always played extremely hardball with each other, and now, for the first time, SpaceX is in a position where it can say no.
    >It's not like SpaceX putting more resources into firehosing compute into orbit is somehow contrary to the national interest. Imagine being the doofus holding a flag on the Moon saying "yay we did it, again" while China puts 100 GW of compute into space and then conquers the light cone with its authoritarian dictatorship.
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    >>17082654
    You forgot your trolling reaction image.
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    >>17082598
    To make a bigger hype bubble, bait for investors. Space companies want a slice of that juicy circle-jerk financing between AI companies, Oracle and Nvidia.
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    >>17082660
    >It's not like SpaceX putting more resources into firehosing compute into orbit is somehow contrary to the national interest. Imagine being the doofus holding a flag on the Moon saying "yay we did it, again" while China puts 100 GW of compute into space and then conquers the light cone with its authoritarian dictatorship
    What
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    >>17082654
    The very first sentence mixes factual claim with metaphor and figurative language resulting in a claim that doesn't fit into any category except experimental fiction. Consider the truth conditions for it. What would it even mean for it to be true? It's garbage.
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    >>17082646
    >Eric Berger@SciGuySpace - Perhaps I do not lack access to some facts

    The Burger King bitch slapping the simps.
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    >>17082660
    CJH is a massive simp. At least he attempts to math out his arguments, so give him that.
    >>
    How do you unironically say simp in this day and age.
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    >>17082660
    the massive compute is required to win as a nation. its not just solving math problems faster than humans, but you also got things like fielding robotic armies with skynet, and robot sex workers.
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    >>17082664
    You are an actual retard.
    In your model of reality Elon needs more money to... waste on a project that he doesn't care about. He spends very little on himself. He's clearly spending money on what he claims he's spending it on.
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    >>17082684
    Yeah how can you someone say that.
    giving real unc rn
    >>
    Reminder that Berger is always right,
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    >>17082635
    >SpaceX decides to abandon the less profitable crew launch market after starliner has a few successful launches.
    >on the fifth starliner mission the capsule fails on reentry killing two humans and two Canadians
    >Crew dragon part of SpaceX is bought and nationalized by NASA
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    >>17082598
    NIMBYs.
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    >>17082635
    >So what’s the truth? In the near term, given Starship’s lift capacity, a lunar landing will probably require about 20 launches, which is the most current publicly disclosed government planning figure.

    Up to 40 per Berger's "household name" source. Sad. Low tier
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    Starship will dock to the iss
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    >>17082706
    Nasa would never let the ISS be mogged like that
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    Interplantary Star Ship
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    >>17082709
    Starship will be used to return sections of the ISS to put in a museum instead of deorbit.
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    >>17082697
    kek
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    >>17082667
    If you can't understand that you have no business posting here.
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    >>17082714
    They will have hard time fitting ISS through the pez hole
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    >>17082714
    Since Spacex can't build a proper cargo hatch without the hull buckling, guess they can get the ISS ice cube trays thru the mail slot .
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    >>17082731
    they can, it's not been an engineering priority because their first payloads were mostly going to be flatpack satellites.
    there will be a large cargo hatch starship in the future.
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    >>17082706
    >>17082709
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    >>17082736
    >Chief Engineer Elon can build a.dozen hatches! But he don wanna!

    This again.
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    >>17082697
    >UEEEEEH DORAGON-KUUUUUN~
    >S-sutahshipu-san, son'nani chikadzukanaide, hazukashīkara!

    cute desu
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    >>17082741
    >random strawman he created inside his head
    lol you're mad, sorry that spacex will build a cargo hatch starship in the future, i hope you get over it and stop seething soon.
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    >>17082741
    Building a hinge is not more difficult than building the first fully reusable orbital rocket or raptor engines
    SpaceX already built reusable fairings and used them to launch more payload than anyone else
    Kill yourself right now
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    >>17082738
    gives shuttle docked to mir vibes
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    >>17082741
    >EDS schizo recycling his orbital cope
    Reusable cope, if you prefer.
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    >SpaceX seeks sushi chef in Palo Alto with hourly pay up to US$35

    Financially. The last barrier on Elon going to Mars falls. Mon Olympus in 2029!
    >>
    $70k a year in the Bay area is poverty wages
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    >>17082736
    Source? I haven't seen anything from spacex that says anything about big hatch existing.
    And if you say that big payload door is not a hard problem, you have to remember that everything about Starship has been hard, 14 flights in and they still have engine problems.
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    >>17082749
    The real reason Gateway got canceled
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    >>17082760
    >working 40 hour weeks at SpaceXSI
    yeah, nah
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    >>17082761
    >source?
    source for them not building one? they have no reason not to.
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    >>17082635
    >Multiple people Ars spoke with for this story said it would be incredibly beneficial if SpaceX publicly committed to developing a large payload door and provided a timeline for its readiness. Ars offered SpaceX the opportunity to make such a commitment, but the company didn’t take it.

    KEEEEEEEEEEEK how long are payload door believers gonna keep coping for? This shit's never getting built, Spacex is a Saarlink and Saarmind machine now, telescope enjoyers on suicide watch.
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    >>17082779
    Hi retard. You conflate their ability to add a feature with the existence of near term plans to do so.
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    First death of a Starship captain
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    >>17082785
    >N-nnear term!

    So, when will Chief Engineer Elon design a proper hatch?

    >He can't do that until Starship is fully reusable and launching ten thousand times per year!
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    >>17082791
    They'll add it when they have a use for it.
    Kill yourself.
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    >>17082791
    How's life on the east coast?
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    >>17082790
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZn6c4CeJCc
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    >>17082790
    shatner still alive LUL
    TDS claims another victim
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    >>17082779
    REE why won't spacex ruin their space ship design over our unique needs we don't want to pay for!!!!!

    And these people wonder why the shuttle was a disaster
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    >>17082790
    Thank God
    He was insufferable IRL
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    >>17082779
    >i am going to keep repeating my talking points even though they are retarded and wrong
    nobody cares, you lost, payload door will be built, you will seethe.
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    there are no current plans for a payload door
    Don't need one for the moon
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    Actual interesting payloads will go on NG with big fairing.
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    >>17082598
    because Elon is so bad at building AI models, he has given up on trying to compete with Sam Alternative-to-man on Earth. His cope belief is that OpenAI will hit a scaling wall somehow in terms of US infrastructure/energy/chips/bureaucracy on the ground, and thinks since he has the ability to launch cheaper than anyone else, he can start in-space infrastructure buildout instead and scale there, ultimately surpassing OpenAI's Earth-based compute, uninhibited by the wall he expects OpenAI to hit.

    This is all just cope and wishful thinking on Elon's part, though. For all we know the models themselves could just as easily hit a wall that scaling compute will never allow us to surpass, and then we will have a crash from compute overbuild (already likely in the best case anyway) and a very expensive, redundant compute constellation.

    No more Mars because a fag has a grudge against a gay fag
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    >>17082807
    luckily you never once interacted with him IRL
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    >>17082826
    How does it work if Elon is already selling compute to his rivals? I assumed they would be renting space shit.
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    >>17082474
    >static fire is always perfect
    >every launch, 1-2 engines fail
    Why is this the case?
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    >>17082826
    >OpenAI will hit a scaling wall somehow in terms of US infrastructure/energy/chips/bureaucracy on the ground,
    OpenAI will run out of funding long before they get to realize their ambitions of trillions of dollars of datacenters
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    >>17082821
    >Actual interesting payloads (fictional) will go on NG (not launching) with big fairing.
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    >>17082859
    pic related
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    https://picard.ytmnd.com/

    F for spehs man
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    >>17082869
    "We've gotten reports that you're attempting autogenous pressurization in there."
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    >>17082849
    So long as Elon is renting compute to anyone, as opposed to fully utilizing it internally for SpaceX's own models, it means they're already overbuilt.
    This is why Elon is effectively no longer selling rockets to customers. It's more valuable for SpaceX to use those launches for their own purposes, mainly Starlink, than launch some other fag's constellation, or launch NASA cargo/astronauts or the odd defense satellite.

    >>17082864
    This is Elon's hope too, and he may be right. And hopefully it happens sooner than later so he can focus back to what matters.
    >>
    >>17082874
    DR VON BRAUN GET DOWN
    >>
    >>17082598
    Saw a post by David Masten the other day and apparently he's been working on space compute for a while. knowers seem to be believers.
    >>
    >>17082826
    what a gay retarded fanfic you just came up with, shoot yourself.
    >>
    >>17082891
    Nice refutation!
    >>
    >>17082618
    >>17082700
    these. You know you are in a broken system when it is easier and cheaper to build your infrastructure in space.
    >>
    >>17082892
    retarded fanfiction doesn't need refutations, it just gets mocked.
    >>
    Both the ship and the booster are ready to go.

    So what the fuck are they waiting for?
    >>
    >>17082900
    FAA
    >>
    >>17082900
    They aren’t ready, muskfags always incorrectly assume that the next SS/SH are miraculously ready for flight and that the FAA are the only holdup
    >>
    >>17082859
    Spaceyeyeech Craptors fail under flight loads. But they'll somehow magically work for ten thousand catch and hose off the tires landings per year.
    >>
    When did the timeline diverge? I thought jaxa’s MMX was due to launch on a FH. It went up on an H3?
    >>
    >>17082694
    >>17082654
    Bergers entire angle relies on the premise that SpaceX is walking away from commercial spaceflight.
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    >>17082917
    And they are.
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    >>17082922
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    >>17082680
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    >>17082892
    it's not a refutation
    it's a demand for your immediate suicide
    I repeat it here
    >>
    >>17082922
    According to SpaceX's competitors, who badly want them to and have publicly said they can't wait to return to low cadance and high margin launches.
    >>
    >>
    >>17082926
    CJH is a simp. Sad but true
    >>
    >Falcon launches daily
    >Starship launches 3 times per year
    DURR THE FUCKING FAA SLOW US DOWN DURRP HURRP
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    >>17082935
    being retarded on purpose is not an argument
    >>
    >>17082935
    Accurate
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    >>17082941
    It is an observation
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    >>17082948
    the first 2 lines were
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    >>17082948
    So was this
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    >>17082935
    >Starship launches 3 times per year

    One flight per solstice or equinox like clockwork
    >>
    >>17082953
    Grok -- I wonder....

    >There is no single, standard English word that uniquely and exclusively represents both a solstice and an equinox.

    Darn
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    Clear observing an observation.
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    >>17082955
    what about a chinese word
    >>
    >>17082950
    Line 3 is what the elon musk nutsuckler says
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    >>17082935
    Starship is launching at a faster pace than Falcon 9 did.
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    >>17082935
    >>
    >>17082963
    Surprisingly still true. 2026 is only the third year of Starship launch operations.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches#Rocket_configurations
    >>
    >>17082961
    Thinking about it, they're right.
    Without any red tape, launches, or anything for that matter, would be attempted sooner.
    >>
    >>17082610
    Buddy do you think it's literally going to be bigass building-sized data centers in orbit? That would be retarded.
    It's just Starlink-scale satellites with the equivalent of a few server racks aboard and the solar panels and radiators to handle them.
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    >>17082968
    Now you're thinking like a nutsuckler
    >>
    >>17082635
    it's not just about the money
    spacex doesn't have infinite manpower, they want to dedicate all their best engineers to the starship program
    with that perspective in mind falcon9 and dragon capsule are more a nuisance than an advantage
    >>
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    >>17083022
    von Braun was a spaceplane fag
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    >>17082989
    >e-everyone who makes fun of me is a nutsuckler!
    lol
    >>
    SpaceX back around 135.
    >>
    the most fucked up, disturbing things you've ever seen in your life are happening down at Starbase
    >>
    >>17082963
    >>17082966
    >>
    >>17083058
    inb4 bad apple
    >>
    >>17083058
    cyberpunk vibes
    >>
    >>17082966
    F9 development cost is around 300 million. Starship is already 15 billion and it's nowhere near done.
    >>
    >>17083074
    $300 million only covered the cost to put version 1.0 in space. It was several billion dollars of continuous development on top of that to create the Block 5 booster and second stage.
    >>
    >>17083074
    it will be done in two more weeks
    >>
    >>17083069
    smells like ozone
    >>
    >>17083065
    FUCKER-
    >>
    >>17082656
    Biden's FAA at it again
    >>
    >>17082660
    >with its authoritarian dictatorship
    when's this guy going to complain about ZOG
    >>
    >>17082456
    interesting interview
    >>
    >>17083065
    >bad apple
    I'll never understand why gay millennials like that garbage so much
    >>
    >>17082959
    sadly, yes
    二分二至
    >>
    >SpaceX through its acquired AI coding platform Cursor, disclosed a security incident involving a modified Claude Code extension that may have affected thousands of users.

    Grok?

    >Yeah. Caught the code clap. Wrap that thang.
    >>
    >SpaceX Introduces Dynamic Starlink Pricing, With Changes of Up to 20% per quarter

    Starlink: Pray I don't alter the deal furher
    >>
    >>17083184
    I unironically hope Leo becomes competitive even if the chance is low.
    >>
    >>17083216
    Amazon Price with Leo addon for another $50 a month would be an extinction event for Starlink.
    >>
    >Berger writing doom articles pre-election
    >Musk doomposting and shitting his pants over his incompetent, self-sabotaging party getting btfo
    geeeg
    >>
    >>17083241
    We haven't tried The America Party yet.
    >>
    >>17083241
    I’ve already basically OD’d on vantiblack pills. Tired of it all. Just give me the bread and circus of an HLS lunar landing, and a mars mission or two. After that the country can collapse idc anymore
    >>
    >>17083255
    >give me HLS lunar landing
    sorry, the best I can give you is poo in leo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiYr3tRSqE
    >>
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    New Launch Soon:
    GSLV-F18/NVS-03 MISSION
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiYr3tRSqE
    first of three replacement satellites for India's NavIC regional navigation system. A GSLV will place it into geosynchronous transfer orbit from the Second Launch Pad at Sriharikota.
    Experts warned of a high probability of Saarposting
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    >>17083265
    Successful launch, congrats to the saars involved. Not a fan of that first stage tho. I'm used to see all the motors to be ignited but ISRO does it differently.
    >>
    >>17083240
    you obviously meant Prime
    >>
    is the third stage supposed to pitch up like that?
    i guess it has a low TWR
    >>
    >>17083280
    *second stage
    >>
    >>17082123
    Falcon 9 launches 150 times a year currently
    I would say low hundreds is reasonably optimistic number to hope for
    if they don't put Elon though kangaroo court for mass murder over cancelling USAID or some nonsense like that
    >>
    >>17083292
    >And she did
    >>
    >>17083292
    >the people i created inside my head are nutsucklers, you have to believe me!
    good luck with that, hope you get better.
    >>
    >>17083293
    MORE
    >>
    >>17083299
    MORE!
    >>
    >>17083121
    i'll never understand why retarded faggots hate that gem so much.
    >>
    >>17083301
    AND I PRAY
    UNLIMITED STARLINKS
    >>
    >>17083297
    i hope the nuts you are suckling taste great bud
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    >>17083313
    "You're gonna love my nuts"
    -Lance Vance
    >>
    >>17083303
    You can't even describe why it's good. It's just some black and white visual mess that kids with down syndrome seem to like
    >>
    What are these nephews talking about
    >>
    I love the Voyager probes
    >>
    Isaacman will joining NSF in a few hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUhmTjmCTU
    >>
    https://x.com/Gwynne_Shotwell/status/2116266502533902586
    >>
    >>17083380
    how do you coordinate this shit
    >>
    >>17083380
    thats basically all of texas outside of the triangle
    >>
    >>17083383
    trump accounts, i think you can donate by zip code, by age and so on
    >>
    The preparations are underway
    >>
    Gaia DR4 will release on the 2nd of December, and it will contain the data to confirm or refute the existence of Proxima c. If confirmed, we will know its true mass and inclination, and assuming the system is coplanar, can use it to determine the masses of Proxima b and d.
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    >>17083293
    >>
    >>17083396
    its not going to come down near aus though?
    >>
    https://x.com/Cosmic_Andrew1/status/2115872393956884930
    >>
    >>17083404
    >"aspirationally jewish" man does jewish things
    >>
    >>17083404
    elon said the contract doesnt include using starlink as a weapon system. gotta pay more for that. somehow they'll say elon is jewish for this.
    >>
    >>17083401
    Shows how faithful they are with it
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    >>17083366
    30 minutes
    >>
    >>17083380
    >Children's Trump accounts
    >Children of Trump's accounts
    My money is on the latter as to where this shit ends up.
    >>
    >>17083414
    Erm, Dr. VonB we don’t call them that anymore
    >>
    As much as it may pain you, I think we need to designate at least ONE of the apollo landing sites as fair-game for going back to and looking at. Obviously not Apollo 11. But I’d like to see Shartemis drive up to an old apollo site and film the flag and the LM descent stage as they currently stand. Yeah some historic footprints will be scuttled but we can live with that
    >>
    >>17083420
    I think Jared said on the Artemis III update that we might be doing this
    >>
    https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2116302668859600951

    SpaceX is aiming to keep Starship in orbit for 24 hours, before catching it, in the upcoming launch.
    >>
    https://science.nasa.gov/missions/hubble/nasa-explores-potential-commercial-servicing-for-hubble-telescope/
    >NASA issued a Request for Information Oct. 29 to learn more about industry capabilities for in-space servicing to support the agency’s Hubble Space Telescope.
    >Like all spacecraft in low Earth orbit, Hubble’s altitude is slowly decreasing over time because of atmospheric drag. Hubble does not have a propulsion system to maintain its own orbit, and analysis predicts Hubble is likely to re-enter the atmosphere in the 2033 to 2034 timeframe. As such, NASA anticipates that a mission would need to take place by 2032.
    Imagine if he awards it to SpaceX/Polaris so that once he's out of office he can command the mission.
    >>
    wait, buzz aldrin isn't black? I always pictured him that way...
    >>
    >>17083523
    You're thinking of Buzz Lightyear.
    >>
    >>17083420
    >>17083421
    fucking BASED. My favorite part of the apollo missions is when they landed by the Surveyor and brought back parts and the tv camera from it.
    >>
    >Friday night
    >Starlink mission
    >no posts
    You guys don't even like spaceflight.
    >>
    >>17083528
    I'm watching it right now
    >>
    >>17083528
    yeah, and it is the big 700th launch of the Falcon 9!
    only 53 to go to match the record held by Soyuz-U
    >>
    You don't need to throttle down for max Q. There, I said it.
    >>
    >>17083532
    Depends on the rocket.
    >>
    >>17083533
    has any other rocket ever had a structural failure at max q?
    >>
    >>17083536
    Firefly Alpha, but that was just before breaking mach 1, and a controls failure as much as anything else. They were flying on three engines instead of four, and each only with single axis control.
    >>
    >>17083536
    The only other two that are strictly attributable to structural failure at Max-Q are Mercury-Atlas 1, and Proton-K with Luna-8.
    >>
    >>17083348
    I don’t need to describe why good things are good to a retard, i just laugh at them for not liking the good thing lol.
    Dumbass redditor thinks everything’s an “argument” that he can win.
    >>
    >>17083595
    Kek sounds like something a faggot with autism would say
    >>
    >>17083383
    Say you're doing it then just take all the money yourself, it's the Russian construction model.
    >>
    What should we call it?
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    >>17083537
    This was like the golden age of /sfg/
    >>
    >>17083606
    we naming stars after gpus now
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    >>17083606
    >ED138
    just call it Edie
    >>
    >>17083601
    No, a faggot with autism would go
    >n-no no ehrm, i-if you can’t explain this simple thing to me then you dont have media literacy, y-you see bad apple is bad ackshually beca-
    Nobody gives a shit, cry about it faggot.
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    >>17083531
    >>
    >>17083646
    good graphs
    >>
    >>17083685
    done by grokbot
    >>
    >>17083701
    Big if true. Discord bolt counters in shambles
    >>
    >>17083380
    >military families
    Those welfare queens already get enough. Why do they need SpaceX shares?
    >>
    >>17083404
    >jews jewing other jews to kill more white men
    Would be based if wasn't so tragically funny
    >>
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    Happy Halloween /sfg/, have a spooky spehs day.
    >>
    >nsf
    how are they going to deal with dozens or hundreds of launches a day?
    >>
    >>17083755
    Nobody excitedly streams the launch of every airliner or the path of every train. They used to, though.
    >>
    >>17083755
    By plugging dozens or hundreds of merch interruptions a day
    >>
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    >>17083759
    soon
    >>
    >>17083760
    Enough launch patches to blot out the sun
    >>
    First CZ-10A seems to be planned for January according to Wenchang rumors
    >>
    /sfg/ - Space Fright General
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    >>17083891
    Jesus Christ how horrifying
    >>
    >>17083897
    An actual event like that would be a lot higher speed.
    >>
    >>17083891
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    >>17083891
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    >>17083907
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    >>17083891
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    >>17083903
    oooh rings
    >>
    >>17083891
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Foex93Slgis

    >"let me do my experiment or I expose the entire crew to vacuum."
    >>
    What planet do you hope to visit if you survive to see interstellar travel?
    >>
    >>17083922
    Earth II
    >>
    >>17083922
    the one my wife is on. she's up there i know it
    >>
    >>17083922
    Mars
    >>
    >>17083922
    >smells like pee
    >named India B
    >>
    >>17083930
    India A is on Earth and smells like poop
    >>
    remember when the shitliner crew got contacted by spooky aliens warning them not to get back into the capsule?
    >>>/wsg/6262294
    >>
    Imagine being on mold-infested Mir and then a fucking fire breaks out
    >>
    >>17083934
    did that ever find out what it was?
    >>
    the ISS astronauts are glorified janitors
    >>
    >>17083523
    You're thinking of Buzz African
    >>
    >houston, we have a haunting
    >>
    >>17083934
    >>
    >>17083946
    Um what the fuck, is this real??
    >>
    Staging

    >>17084028
    >>17084028
    >>17084028
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    >>17083933
    a clever misdirection
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