Why mathematicians are obssesed with their stuff to the point that they act as if it was more real than reality itself, yet whenever you question them about the philosophical implications of their schizo rants, they just go: nah its just fake, bro.And to be clear, Im not asking why mathematics work in reality if its a construct of our minds. Im asking why mathematicians are so autistic about le pragmatism, its like they dont realize how their field is as ideologically conditioned as the rest or something.
>>17079690I mean Mathematics since Euclid has been obsessed with Axioms and Proofs. It’s always been trying to find the reality and truth of mathematics.
>>17079690Could you provide a single (one [1] ) example of what the hell you are talking about.
>>17079750Ex: mathematicians wont care about the epistemological implications of boolean algebra as was shown in the "Calculus of indications" (Spencer-Brown). I understand they might despise the "New Age" bullshit that Spencer-Brown loved, or the borderline charlatanry of his claims about having solved shit like Riemann hypothesis. Despite this, Laws of Form and its implications influenced biology, sociology and cybernetics, but mathematicians will tell you its just a metaphor at best, and deny any aplication beyond their field.
>>17079690>its like they dont realize how their field is as ideologically conditioned as the rest or something.they don't, that's the whole conceit of "mathematical truth", because the educational culture does not admit how deep the axiomatic scaffolding goes and that it terminates in brain structurethere really is no way to separate it from the platonism question, and the platonist stance is the one that gives professional results
>>17079690Axiom AI is now a thing. Look it up.Math just dunked on you, kot.
>>17079690it's the philosopher's job to make sense of mathematics and contextualize all of it in our perceivable reality many mathematicians are simply not skilled in thatit's like asking a musician about notes, tempos and the theory behind it all. Many will not be able to tell you anything of substance, either, and just say: Well, you know, I just kinda intuit it all
>>17079690>they act as if it was more real than reality itselfIt is. We live in a world of imperfect projections of forms.>>17079808Genuine schizobabble
>>17079690Name one
>>17079808because those claims are wild and imprecise generalizations of the gist of their actual work.a mathematician should not make claims that are untrue.
>>17079690Because they are autistic.
>>17079690Marketing, they have to sell them self like any one in that modern prostitution in the academic branch. Despite that their field can not even describe a simple circle, it is exhausted and can be studied and teached by computers. You do not even need AI for it. So they have to act like a religion - muuh we are more real than reality - and if you give us enough money a new area will come to mankind and we all go the way of enlightment.
