Why should I be more mad at foids than men when an average normgroid would with no hesitation say yes to a question of "would you deflower 20 virgins and dump them immediately?" And the "high value" ones already do this? Why should I be more mad about some dumb 18 year old bitch getting fucked by a godless psychopath 10 years older than her?
>>85864147Because it's harder to fuck 20 virgins than a girl saying "No" for a degenerate. If she can't even do that, then they don't deserve rights. And no, most of those guys aren't masterclass manipulatorsOf course, those guys are a problem too, but I'm heterosexual, I don't care what they do. I do care about what women do since one might be my future wife
>>85864147That's right you're on the right track. Now you just need to take an even broader view to stop focusing on individual issues and see how the structure of society values the deflowering of virgin women by men because this is a phenomenon that emerged with private property when it became necessary to ensure that one's assets were passed on to one's descendants. Technically for these men sleeping with tons of virgins is a demonstration of power and wealth
if you put it that way you could be mad at her parents for raising her in a way that caused the lack of self respect she'd have to have to do that. or mass of people trying to say it doesn't matter. if you go down the line far enough you should just be mad at satan. but it's not all about the causes, these are all thinking people with free will. most of them know it's wrong, even if they're dumb, and decide to do it anyway. everyone should be held accountable to an extent.
>>85864184But clearly men that do this are killing off your potential "future wives".>>85864186Makes sense.>>85864227Everyone should, that is my point. But instead people will discuss with men that have weekly casual hookups about how "foids are evil" and such and I just think it is ridiculous.
>>85864147https://voca.ro/1j4Y9n450zel
>>85864184>future wife If you have to say this then it is already too late.
>>85864147Genuinely what's wrong with non virgin women? Or women sleeping around? If she's a virgin past 14 she just masturbates to porn (by default vulgar and deranged) all the time. Sexual desire is very hard to suppress and frankly why would you do it? Is there traceable benefits besides the only correlation, 0 causation divorce by bodycount statistic? Anons here constantly whine that even the self proclaimed tradwives are whores. What is it if not a proof that sexuality is very hard,almost impossible to suppress and it's even dumber to expect majority of people to do something that 1) is hard 2) pointless
>>85864307>men that do this are killing off your potential "future wives".I don't particularly care about feminine intellect, but if you're dumb enough to fall for a degenerate sweet talk, I wouldn't want her anyway
>>85864147Now you're getting it.Men are easily corrupted, sex obsessed dogs. They simultaneously want women to be virgins and whores. The only thing that matters to them is their ego and self worth (which is based on how many women they fuck).
>>85864356>Is there traceable benefits besides the only correlation, 0 causation divorce by bodycount statistic?You're a cuck, simple as that. I can list 20 papers citing the downsides and how much it affects the female psyche without any upside, but that won't change your mind, because again, you're a cuck
>>85864394Yes agreed. While women are also prone to like it when their ego gets stroked (all the romance books where the man is obsessed abd would kill for her), they can be pretty objective in their attraction&behavior. Abusive Chad? It's alright. Stupid, jobless Chad? It's okay. Chad doesn't love me? Fine. She views Chad as an independent agent whom she admires not in relation to herself. Look at male opinions on the good womanTM or morally righteous woman - it all revolves around her sexual partner (who they self insert as)
>>85864356Genuinely kill yourself, disingenuous cuck.
>>85864402Go on, cite them. I could cite 10s of papers pointing out the negative outcomes of porn consumption too. But I am not stupid enough to look at them and go "yeah men should just give up porn to avoid those downsides" because this conclusion doesn't consider how fundamental one's sex drive is and how it's impossible to eliminate. I don't see the point in arguing against some "evil" that is fundamental and unchangeable. Social media are a net negative too but guess what you can't satisfy your social needs without them these days
>>85864444>"yeah men should just give up porn to avoid those downsides" because this conclusion doesn't consider how fundamental one's sex drive is and how it's impossible to eliminateWow, what a pathetic breed. Sex drive is a factor since humans exist, still many can overcome/control that, even now. Just because you're weak willed it doesn't make it an impossible taskThat's like saying you shouldn't try to give up on drugs even if objectively it's better for you just because it's hard
>>85864466Never said it was impossible but I wouldn't expect the majority to give it up. Every single dociety had degenerate outlets for people's sexuality. There's a difference between individual worldview and social engineering on a larger scale Porn is a very particular industry which has a very particular history that was mostly random but there are objective reasons why it's so popular beyond human sex drive. Life in a big city generally feeds on sexual degeneracy (looks up 1920s, pre birth pill era) and I don't see how one could change it *for the majority*
>>85864476*birth control pill
>>85864356>What's wrong with non-virgin women? They're gross and worthless.You can be on your way now.
>>85864356I don't have a problem with women who aren't virgins per se but with women who sleep around as easily as one drinks a glass of water as Comrade Lenin would say
>>85864510I agree. Though they are natural minority,I don't see any point in pointing them out. By "sleeping around" I mean literally sleeping around - serial monogamy can be seen as 3 ex partners or 15 ex partners in the past
>>85864476You don't even acknowledge that it's a bad thing, so it doesn't matter if the majority does it or not>1) is hard 2) pointless
>>85864530Yes I don't see what an individual would gain from restricting their sexuality. Everyone fucks around=>you refusing to won't give you any benefit in such society=>everyone including you keeps fucking around. There are exceptions of very principled/religious people but we both know those are exceptions. People don't worship just for the sake of it, in the past they were religious because they genuinely needed to be
>>85864543Degenerates are funny, no logic whatsoever, just what makes them feel better in the moment. You want to talk about the damage of porn, but casual sex is okay despite being orders of magnitude worse
>>85864543What benefit do you get from not "restricting your sexuality"? Used pussy? If that's a benefit to you, you're too far gone already
>>85864543>I don't see what an individual would gainNot only is it selfish and individualistic as you imply with that quote but it's an extension of bourgeois brothels a disposable commodity to be consumed at will that directly mirrors capitalist market logic and upper-class self-indulgence
>>85864592Tinder and all these dating apps are just that consoomer products to the detriment of human well-being
>>85864147Kys woman along with all the foid witches in this thread. You stink of tuna you nasty bitches
>>85864147>Why would I be mad that all women want the worst men???!?!?
>>85864147It's like if women had the ability to turn every moid they slept with out of wedlock into a frenchman and they absolutely hate french men.Why should men be the ones to have self restraint if they dont mind dating french women? What's going to happen is that a large part of the population will turn french and they won't have a choice other than to settle for them.You're ruining the market for yourself and too irresponsible to have self restraint.
