> be me> at therapy> "I am undesirable. I can only attract fat/ugly women."> therapist: "That only tells something about them, not you."We've basically agreed to disagree on this one. Please give a sound retort to this.
we all exist as objects in other peoples lives, just as much as we are subjects of our own. just because something is out of our control doesn't make it any less painful than the things that are, often it's the exact opposite. all you're doing is trying to erase my struggles so they can conform to your naive and unrealistic worldview.
people really go to therapy because no gf. cmon guys get real problems
>>85852983You're not going to "pull one over" on a person who's entire job is to flip shit people say back at them.
>>85852983that doesn't really make any sense. get a new therapist
>>85852983What are you even doing in therapy, it sounds like you're paying someone to tell you things you don't agree with so you can argue about it. Do you find that to be productive? I don't get it.
>>85853767>Do you find that to be productive? I don't get it.Coincidently you're righter than you think. Next week will be my last session. I'm switching to medication.
>>85852983Why even see a therapist about this? They are not going to be able to really understand or sympathize with you. You may have your issues but all they will see when they hear your complaints on the matter is a bitter loser.
what's wrong with fat or ugly women? i used to be like you OPi rejected a lot of girls that i wasn't drooling over. turns out life is about teach tricks to dogs
>>85853980> what's wrong with fat or ugly women?They are fat and or ugly.
>>85854018that sounds like a you problem involving being excessively judgmental and exclusionary
>>85854079At least I'm not lying to myself, unlike you.
>>85854091if you make your decisions based on superficial reasons regarding what a person cannot change then you will be unhappy forever. it has the same energy as me trying to get validation from you guys, it's an uphill battle where you refuse to take the stairs because you think you'll find an elevator.
>>85854117Bro. She just has to not be ugly or fat. How is that such a omnipotent condition which leaves you to believe one will remain unhappy forever? Like, do you even hear yourself??
>>85854117Wanted to be attracted to your partner isn't a "superficial reason". You should never date someone you're not attracted to, don't try to gaslight him.
>>85854117> it's an uphill battle where you refuse to take the stairs because you think you'll find an elevator.By the by, are you suggesting I should just keep trading up women until I find one super hot?? Yeah that's totally not toxic in any shape or form/
>>85854144that's an insane standard to have based on the assumption you're not failing to meet a standard that every woman ever has chances this is fetish content seems to be going up
>>85854117>if you make your decisions based on superficial reasons regarding what a person cannot change then you will be unhappy foreveryour mistake is assuming that lowering one's standards and settling for rotten goods would make one less unhappy than just not bothering at all
>>85852983Your therapist gets paid to hear you whine. They'll always take your side, but improvement is only possible through correcting internal and external difficulties. If you're not working to correct difficulties in your life and are instead looking for cope and excuses, of course the only solution is to feed your ego and say they just can't look past your circumstances and appearance to get to know the real you.
>>85854148normie sloppa cope chad uses to not commit to uglies he fucks out of boredom+what his friends will think>>85854153i never said you would end up with an attractive woman but you're so close to getting what i'm on about
>>85854163>They'll always take your side, but improvement is only possible through correcting internal and external difficulties.First non-retarded post about therapy on this board I've seen. Anyway, this.
>>85854156I'm sorry could you repeat this in a more straight forward manner? I have no idea what you're trying to say. (seriously I am not trolling)
>>85854169>>85854156you sound like a complete retard with a tenuous grasp on the english language
>>85854157i'm trying to tell you that there is more to your life than godwife
>>85854179what do you think i'm trying to say so i can see what i need to clarify >>85854182fetish content, got it
>>85854194>what do you think i'm trying to say so i can see what i need to clarifyHow about that begin, middle and end?
>>85854194>what do you think i'm trying to sayI just told you I have no idea.
>>85854208ok, so you have standards. and so do women. if you fail to meet womens' standards, they will not date you. much like if women fail to meet your standards, you will not date them. you are complaining that you can't find someone who meets your standards while being oblivious to the notion that you have failed to meet anyone else standards. not only that, but you are choosing to reject your available options who might actually teach you how to be more attractive to women on the whole because they give you the ick. unless you are some kind of playboy billionaire who has been blacklisted by evil feminists, it seems like you're creating your own fucking problems.
>>85854231Thank you I understand now.To respond:Don't you think it's at least a little disingenuous to date women simply for the end goal of being a better partner to the person I'm actually attracted to?Look, I go to the gym, I have hobbies, I socialise from time to time. How is that not enough?
>>85854250>Look, I go to the gym, I have hobbies, I socialise from time to time. How is that not enough?Granted you could flip this the otherway around but my first point still stands.
>>85854250>Don't you think it's at least a little disingenuous to date women simply for the end goal of being a better partner to the person I'm actually attracted to?fwiw a lot of the advice women get early on in life is "go for that [loserish nice] guy, he seems nice. it's no fucking lie, despite everyone saying "long term main bitch only" on the apps that dating around and learning more about yourself and intimacy in general is important.i'm not saying you shouldn't try to find the person you want to date at all, but just understand that there's a good chance that person knows their value to you and all the ways that might end badly if you are inexperienced person who only wants to get theirs and fuck off.i'm also not trying to say you should date women to 'level up', and frankly i am just assuming you are inexperienced, but it takes work to be the kind of man that women enjoy the company of. it's not as simple as checking off the body, passion, and work boxes because at that point you just come off as a fucking ken doll wondering why he hasn't been packaged with barbie after rolling off the self-care production line. realistically, i don't know you. i might be way off with my advice. but the point is just... you need to treat people like people instead of your potential partner. and what people need is to be loved.
>>85854319Well I'll tell you this you've at least given me something to think about> you need to treat people like people instead of your potential partnerThis however may be a too high enough call for me. I can't help but imagine someone as a potential partner if I like them.
>>85854366you should definitely try to score with someone you see as a potential partner. but once you start trying to put people into boxes don't be surprised if they do the same to you
>>85854383>but once you start trying to put people into boxes don't be surprised if they do the same to youWell, they don't know I'm doing that.
>>85852983you are too retarded for this world just kill yourself bro>>85854117you kill yourself too
Would you date an ugly or undesirable woman? Why expect the same from them?
>>85852983Bet you think women can't be lonely because they can always date unattractive men
>>85852983This isn't an argument. You called yourself undesirable. You called the women who desire you fat and ugly. Your therapist's comment was intended to provoke you. Yet you lack the ability to think about yourself constructively.I genuinely believe the majority of this board are Elliot Rodger tier narcissists that project their shitty personas onto other people.
>>85854405>Well, they don't know I'm doing that.what do you think the first thing people notice about you when they see you is?
>>85852983>Help me one up my therapistAre you a child?
>>85854163>If you're not working to correct difficulties in your lifeWhat are you supposed to do about only being able to attract fat or ugly women? Try harder? You could hear that shit for free on here.
>>85854319>but it takes work to be the kind of man that women enjoy the company ofNot really. Just be tall and handsome and maybe a crypto millionaire if you want a leg up on the competition.
>>85856116your height, weight, hair thickness, and canthal tilt
>>85856051All women by default have one hundred thousand guys willing to die for them. Bare minimum. And yet the reason they never have to be lonely is because they are more than happy to share the same guy. Maybe not as a harem in the sense that they're all standing around him fanning him and feeding him grapes on a sofa, but she will wait for him to be three hours late to their "date" which inevitably just turns into her going to his place at the end of the night to fuck. They're fine with this arrangement because he's hot.
>>85854117>fat>superficialObesity says a lot about a person's personality.
