aew is good

>>21398425
>Unpopular opinions:
Nash wasn't raped

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>>21398502 >>21407825 >>21407951 >>21414431

>I liked the Ciampa pants spot
>Wrestlemania 38 was better than 39 and 40
>MITB 2011 sucked
>Ruthless Aggression era was only good in 2002, the rest sucked
>WWE 2012-2016 > WWE 2003-2011

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>>21398507

>>21398425
Okay but riddle me this, what does the R mean in Sailor Moon R?

>>21398453
What spot was that?
WM 38 was a fun show, 39 I only remember the main event and 40 I fell asleep watching
Agreed, I tried rewatching it one time and it was so mid
Raw was pretty bad, but smackdown was usually good, outside of stuff like JBL as top heel and when the midcard featured Matt Hardy vs MVP every week
2012-2016 is an interesting choice

>>21398476
There's no definitive answer, but supposedly it's supposed to stand for Return(s) or romance or rose.

>>21398507
ngl Kevin Romance Nash has a nice ring to it

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>>21416146

>Oba Femi is boring and one dimensional
>John Cena is the most polarizing wrestler in history
>there's no great up and coming going talent on either AEW or WWE

STARDOM really was the best wrestling company of the 20s until All Star Grand Queendom last year, after which it's all been downhill.
https://archive.org/details/stardom-all-star-grand-queendom-2025-27-04-25

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new gen>attitude

>>21399244
Afraid so. The retirements and roster leaving for USA/ orange fields really stung too.

Will Osprey fucking sucks

I'd rather watch women wrestle for 10 minutes than listen to any of them talk for more than 2 minutes.
There has never been a good straight up Tables match.
I liked the NXT 2.0 set.
Broken Dreams is a shitty entrance theme.
I really like Japanese Wrestling games but I can never get into their real life products.
Paul Heyman and Don Callis are significantly overrated as on-screen performers.
Max Caster is an Enzo Amore tier shitter and each of their promo abilities isn't nearly enough to warrant overlooking that.

>>21398425
Vince did not get worse with age the only thing that changed about his booking was the people he had around him and how much he listened to them.

Sami Zayn is the best total package wrestler of his generation and it's not even remotely close.

>>21400710
Agreed, women's matches mog men's matches these days
There probably is a good match, it's somewhere
2.0 was fun and entertaining
Broken Dreams always got zero pop
Never played a Japanese game
Agreed 100%
Have to agree on that one too

>>21400710
My twin

Roman sucked as a babyface
Seth is the best worker of the Shield
Randy is the most talented of the OVW class
PG era is overhated
Only the Rumble and Mania are important
HBK's second run was better than his first run
Flair is overrated
Mid 2000s Taker was the biggest star in the company
Rock was always corny
Jericho is a legend
Omega was overrated
WCW was better overall in certain areas
Vince is a carny snake
Cody is the best babyface ever
Miz deserves more respect
Meltzer is a blessing and a curse
CM Punk is an all time great
AEW will forever be the number two show
Anyone who has to go to Japan to become a star is guaranteed to have been a jobber in the West
Shoot interviews>podcasts
Casuals are more important than die hards
Nostalgia is cancer

>>21401362
>Cody is the best babyface ever
kek! he's nowhere near the best babyface in his family

>>21401374
Zoomers and casuals didn't watch Dusty, and Dustin was fine, never great though.

>>21401381
Anime

YOLO

Ronda vs Charlotte was the biggest match in women's history.

The new class of women are inferior to the 2018 era of women.

>>21398441
he was feeling frisky. he admitted to it.

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Wrestling machine serious Kurt Angle was his best run.

>>21401362
>Mid 2000s Taker was the biggest star in the company
roiding Taker was genuinely one of the best wrestlers ever, probably top 5
he carried shit wrestlers to decent matches and carried halfway decent wrestlers to great matches that no one has ever done before or after since

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>>21405815

Nia is hot

Joshis are the only ones left in the business protecting kayfabe and respecting it

>>21401362
>>21401836
I'll take it a step further: Taker, accounting for longevity, is the biggest star WWE/WWF ever had and kept them fed during the lean periods when everything else sucked.

Seff Fartin' Rollins is unironically better than 99% of the AEW roster.

Modern stardom is pure slop where nothing matters and all of their nu-rookies fight with the exact same style and are completely interchangeable

I don't care if wrestlers kill themselves for a cheap pop in front of thirty people if I find it entertaining. I like trashy death matches.

>>21398425
2016-2019 WWE is leagues better than now

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>>21405507

Crowds were better when they would hijack shows and shitchant.

>>21403993
true

While AEW has plenty of shitters, they have an all time legendary roster. One of the very best, if not the best, of all time.

Jeff Jarrett was underrated.

>>21404694
but they drew the regular crowds away. you sound obese

Bruiser Brody deserved it.

?2002 divas (Trish, Lita, Victoria, Jazz etc) are more historically important than the 4 horsewomen
>Having epic "5star" matches up and down a PPV card is unironically bad for booking
>Sherri is in the mount rushmore of managers and Cornette is small time awful

>Ric Flair does not get nearly enough shit for some of the bad finishes he had during his heyday.
>Sid should've never gone back to WCW.
>Sabu is genuinely one of the most revolutionary talents in the history of professional wrestling.
>Juice Robinson is one of the most underused talents in the business right now (his finish is dogshit though).
>Lio Rush is completely ruining his gimmick on the indy scene and Tony Khan is in the right to have largely have cooled off on him since the end of summer.
>I give everything a chance but I think there is seriously something wrong with you actually "enjoy" JCW.
>Holiday themed shows are peak comfy and nothing disappoints me more than when companies don't go all out for them.

>>21402289
She doesn't look like this anymore

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>>21398425
This might seem weird but in order to take you seriously We need to at least know the year you were born, if you're talking about WCW and Stone Cold

Cornette is overrated and dumb.

/asp/ was better than /pw/

> Ric Flair is a GOATED worker if you go back & watch his WrestleWar match
> gimmick matches are more interesting than a regular match
> XPW in its heyday is more entertaining than a chunk of Smoky Mountain
> NWA is more entertaining than AEW & current WWE
> Ludwig Kaiser is the best worker today
> Hogan vs McMahon is a better match than Hogan vs Rock
> 2000s AJ Styles is more attractive than prime Shawn Michaels, possibly the sexiest wrestler ever.

>Battlebowl is more entertaining WCW gimmick match than War Games
>The Horsewomen did Kliq style BS to sabotage the next wave of women and it's not talked enough
>Eddie Guerrero vs Dean Malenko in ECW is patient zero for the awful style of wrestling we have now
>Young Bucks New Japan act deserves respect, their style and marketing waw so unique and were actual draws when they show up on ROH/ indy shows

>>21407389
>Young Bucks
>draws
kek

>Thunderdome was based
>the plandemic proved that the crowds are the worst part of wrestling

>>21398453
cole's looking rough

Roddy Piper was mid

>>21398453
>I liked the Ciampa pants spot
In a vacuum, I really don't hate this spot either. I just really, REALLY hated how Aubrey immediately sold for it. If he gets in her face and threatens to kill her if she doesn't count or something I can totally live with it. It's the fact that he immediately and "aggressively points" at her and she's more than happy to count that pissed me.
Seriously, the referees in AEW are fucking garbage outside of the guy that looks eternally nervous all the time.

Collision is the worst wrestling show on tv right now.

i hate women's wrestling because watching women get hurt makes me sick

The people on this board who bitch about it day in and day out would be much happier on /r/squaredcircle, /r/midcarder, or /r/scjerk.

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>>21408491

>>21398425
This is why people calls you the queen of planet retard, usagi.

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>>21408468
I thought Poi was the queen of Planet Retard, though.

>>21400710
Based Enzo/Caster hater

>>21398425
Ric Flair would have been on the greatest of all time conversation if he retired in the 2000s and spent the last 20 years getting kicked out of bars in Florida for shitting himself
People severely overrate american (and european) wrestlers who go to Japan
High flying acrobatic bullshit is more normie-friendly than traditional submission based wrestling
If The Miz didn't wrestle for WWE he'd be considered one of the 10 best active wrestlers in the world

>>21408502
Now these are interesting takes and I think I mostly agree with each of them.

Everyone in the Nexus was a green shitter and John Cena rightfully buried them.

>>21408502
I've shown casuals tlc and ladder matches and they mark out for them. I one time showed a relative Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect and he fell asleep watching it.

I agree that Sami is one of the GOATs

>>21408502
>>21409241
Casuals like seeking crazy, goofy, or dumb shit. Shit they can't see anywhere else.
They don't give a fuck about ring psychology. Which isn't to diss ring psychology at all (I love a match with good ring psychology) but it's just that your average casual isn't going to notice it much, same as most people around here didn't notice it until someone got into their ear about it.
Conversely, grappling stuff seems boring and that's the type of thing they feel insults their intelligence because they know it's fake and aren't going to bother suspending their disbelief about it.
Again, I'm not shitting on anything. I like those things and am not a fan of flips for the sake of flips. But when people aren't jaded by seeing so much of it they tend to just enjoy it, even though it's not necessarily something they'd watch regularly.

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>>21414362

>>21407820
>Thunderdome was based
They really should have played more into unique background scenes like they did with the zombie match instead of floating Edrone heads. Give a Mortal Kombat / Street Fighter feel background during the matches might be cool
>>21405918
>Cornette is overrated and dumb.
Her ruined Yokozuma with his dumb repetitive southern schtick. A US spokesperson might work if it was someone good like Gary Hart, but Cornette just ruined his vibe

>>21407367
The gay community?

>>21410746
He might never appreciate us but we appreciate him

>>21398425
I dont like roman
I like Ethan page

AEW is too violent to be successful big time.

>>21410663
Thunderdome was hype the first few shows, then it got boring. I still appreciate that Vince kept his show running during Covid.

If you have a good enough roster, you don’t need to do angles or storylines. You will draw solely on fans wanting to see their favorites succeed.

>>21414363
>you don't need to do angles or storylines
how's that working out for AEW?

>>21414375
NTA but he did preface it with "if you have a good enough roster." Which AEW does not.
I'm not sure I agree with him anyway though. You need storylines of some sort, even if it's in the form of tournaments and title chases.

>>21414375
Im not a fan of that style of wrestling. But the absolute worst part of their shows is the wrestlers pretending to be bad at each other or whining about how they aren’t friend no more.

Not really an opinion. But you can follow multiple Japanese promotions for the same screen time investment as you do to watch wwe, aew or tna.

You really should just watch older wrestling.

>>21414407
It's true. Only the big monthly shows are "must watch." The smaller shows are just house shows that aren't essential viewing.
I solely watch Japanese wrestling and probably watch less wrestling than the average person on this board.

>>21398453
you know really you could wrap 2002 into the attitude era anyway

>>21408502
>Ric Flair would have been on the greatest of all time conversation if he retired in the 2000s and spent the last 20 years getting kicked out of bars in Florida for shitting himself
ric is still generally considered to be the GOAT today anyway in spite of that

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>>21415609

The Undertaker's WrestleMania streak is overrated compared to his overall career
Cody Rhodes is a great babyface but his character can get boring
Seth Rollins is a better wrestler than Roman Reigns
Batista was a better main event star than people remember
Jeff Hardy's popularity was bigger than his actual wrestling ability
Kane was more entertaining than The Big Show
Bruno Sammartino's legacy deserves more respect from modern fans.
Randy Orton has a stronger overall career than people give him credit for
AEW has too many matches and not enough meaningful storylines
Tony Khan needs to say no to more wrestlers
MJF is better on the microphone than he is in the ring
Jon Moxley's character needs more variety
Factions are often used as a substitute for individual character development
A wrestler losing momentum is often worse than a wrestler losing a match
Rhea Ripley shouldn't need to be involved in every major women's storyline
The Attitude Era is remembered through nostalgia more than reality
The Shield's breakup benefited Seth Rollins more than Roman Reigns
The IWC ruins wrestling by overanalyzing everything
Shawn Michaels is overrated as an in-ring storyteller

Seth was always superior to Roman in every way. Ambrose is the distant third to the point that it's funny.

>>21414491
I wish this Wednesday design got more porn

>>21410222
Of you are going to an indy show with a normie it is best that an indy show has wild flip and garbage matches. But if you are building a brand with TV content it's best to build character and personality and have more basic matches as the personalities will drive the content and too much of the other stuff loses it's luster fast wnd then nothing really stands out

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>>21399218
>>there's no great up and coming going talent on either AEW or WWE
Facts. The future is grim.

>>21398425
Sailor Mars owes me sex

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Women only get popular based off now much guys jerk off and simp for them.

>Kylie and Kenzie Paige are the most entertaining women wrestlers in the world right now.
if they ever leave NWA, Corgan is fucked

I just never got into Japanese or Luchador wrestling.

Acts like Eugene and Fester hold back the medium