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    Why is real estate so cheap in Europe?

    https://www.rentinriga.com/en/houses-for-sale/vilkmuiza-1/14052
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    Well, im sure you can find rotting old house in the woods for cheap in America too.
    >1.5 hour drive from Riga
    In Latvia, that's across the country, that's not a light drive. Lol
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    >>545281328
    Demographic collapse, same reason there are 9,000,000 empty houses in japan, no one to live in them but the owner still pays taxes so theyll sell for anything to remove that burden
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    >>545281441
    1.5 hours one way is an average daily commute for Americans
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    >>545281328
    Nobody wants to live in that shitty Europoor country.

    Not even you.
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    >>545281484
    Grim. Imagine being so utterly fucked by the oil and auto jew.
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    >>545281611
    Its why we have healthy demographics and you do no: suburbs have enough room for families at an affordable price
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    You can easily triple that considering how much interior work needs to be done.
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    >Well, im sure you can find rotting old house in the woods for cheap in America too.
    I can find you a cheap house in Gary Indiana that isn't in the woods
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    >>545281328

    Do you want to buy an abandoned mansion in Bumfuck Nowhere, Latvia, which has not been renovated since WW2? I wouldn't.
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    >>545281441
    >>545281451
    1.5 hours doesn't seem bad for how much you're saving.
    I imagine transit in japan is much harder though, plus first world countries hate immigrants if they're not brown and smell like shit.
    >>545281764
    Cause euros don't use wood is reframing a house that hard? Do you really need to break the whole thing down and restart?
    Depending on the acreage and zoning I still don't think it's that bad.
    In the US you couldn't even buy a fucking crack house in niggertown for that much.
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    >>545281758
    That's a lie and you know it.
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    >>545281328
    its an ancient rotting moldy house without water, electricity, heating or anything even remotely modern.
    Its likely falling apart and requires 4x its price for renovation or even just fixing.
    Its like a huge pain in the ass due to EU regulations and you likely can't even live in it without some kike ratting you out.
    And just like crimea anon said its in fucking Latvia and across the fucking country.
    >average daily commute for Americans
    no its not and don't fucking pretend it is, you have malls, schools and other shit within 15-25 minutes of you.

    And its some american wooden cuck shack that can be fixed overnight.
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    >>545281991
    Is there a risk of landmines? Otherwise yes of course I would depending on the acreage and zoning.
    But probably not, I'd imagine I'd get raped in taxes somehow even if all my money is in american markets.
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    >>545281451
    this but even infinite 3rd world imports wont help as they're poorfags and would just lose those for unpaid taxes and anyway want to live in human farms called cities where is more natives to be raped and scammed
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    >>545282090

    I would say that the risk on little green men is larger than landmines. But if you want a moderen house, it would be easier to build one from scratch. Does that thing even have electricity or running water? Is its heating based on maids carrying firewood to every room's fireplace?
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    >>545282220
    >>545281991
    >WW2
    Its likely several centuries old
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    >>545281328
    Because nobody wants to live there aside from somalis and indians.
    >>
    >>545281484
    weird flex
    >>
    and would you look at that, OP is a nigger faggot and manor is 500 yo
    >>
    >>545282371
    Oh fuck it's haunted?
    Never mind, fuck that.
    I can rape gaylliens, but you can't rape a spook.
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    >>545281328
    its still €58,000 more than i can afford
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    >>545282418
    >haunted
    Yes, latvian kikes, commies and nazi live there together in spirit, they share one water well and same dry toilet.
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    >>545282574
    oh fuck, jewish ghosts are the worst.
    >>
    >>545282688
    Its a unique situation where water well is poisoned by kike ghosts, shit bucket is occupied by nazis ghosts and commie ghosts installed a fuse box but only for the alarm system which probably doesn't work and requires replacement
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    >>545281758
    >White America has healthy demographics
    lol, lmao even
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    >>545281328
    good luck renovating this. youre going to pay 300k to make it inhabitable. this is a ruins.
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    >>545282998
    4 groups have above replacement birthrates:
    >right wing white women
    >amish
    >mormons
    >orthodox jews
    everyone else is shrinking
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    >>545283135
    >white women are a hivemind devilspawn that reproduces asexually like amoeba
    I fucking knew it guys
    >>
    >>545281328
    haunted plus full of mold and aids
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    >>545283418
    Cities have never been able to reproduce themselves throughout history even back to ancient greece. American suburbs are our superpower
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    >>545282297
    Not a flex. Statement of fact of living in a continent that was settled in a century. Reminds me of a poem a defeated settler carved into the door of his sod house before abandoning it to move back east.

    250 miles to nearest post office.
    100 miles to wood.
    20 miles to water.
    6 inches to hell.
    God bless our home.
    Gone to live with the wife's folks.
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    >>545281328
    58k euro to buy
    580k euro to fix and make livable
    and then come the maintenance and heating costs of 20 rooms on 855 fucking square meters
    >>
    probably better than my current living situation
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    >>545284267
    Knew a girl that lived in an old castle and majority of the rooms were always super cold and they just heated one or two rooms they lived in.
    >>
    Because they have little use let one can generate rents
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    >>545284094
    >the reply to the weird flex is an even weirder flex
    ok boomer
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    >>545284394
    I live alone in a 250 sqm house and I don't heat all the rooms either
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    >>545284503
    Your bloodline lacks the pioneer spirit, which is why youre a europoor.

    Thats a flex.
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    >>545284803
    >the pioneer spirit
    is code for
    >my ancestors lived like gypsies because Europe exiled them
    weird flex
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    >>545281328
    because it'll take 5 million just to bring property to state where you allowed to live in it and meanwhile property taxes are under assumption property worth 10 million
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    >>545284854
    Normal kids stop playing pioneers at about 5-6 years old, shortly before they start school. Americans believe that crap all their lives kek
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    >>545282064
    This is a lie. I own a european farmhouse and it has all of those modern amenities aside from internet
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    >>545281441
    >>545281523
    >>545281611
    >>545281991
    >>545282290
    its most likely ac ool old german estate that was taken from the owners 100 years ago
    you can go there and larp as a teutonic knight
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    >>545281328
    >haunted house in a latvian forest
    I would turn it into a sex dungeon
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    >>545284503
    You're a city nigger turk
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    >>545286667
    >no counterargument
    thanks for the bump kek, you're doing gods work
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    >>545281451
    Eh shit is fairly expensive in Tokyo, and the population is actually growing
    it's the rural areas and regions hollowed out
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    >>545286772
    Japan is losing a million people a year bud and wages haven’t increased in 30 years
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    >>545286959
    I'm sorry you can't comprehend the English language I said fucking Tokyo did I not Sgt Chavez?

    Learn to read dickhead
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    >>545281328
    Because it's a rotting house in the woods that requires hundreds of thousands in renovations to mitigate structural issues in an area without the job market to support such renovations.

    You can find gorgeous Victorians all around shitty small towns in the US that are passed on because the jobs that could fund the new roof, new siding, electrical, etc don't exist locally.
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    >>545287185
    tokyo has already reached its peak population and will follow japan as a whole in permanent collapse. Japan is a dead country with no future
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    >>545282418
    > but you can't rape a spook
    How do you know if you haven’t tried?
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    >>545285655
    >This is a lie.
    No it isn't, that's why the property is so cheap. Yours would have had renovations done to it.
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    >>545284394
    > they just heated one or two rooms they lived in.
    I do that in my current house. I live in one side if the house and only heat and cool the three rooms.
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    >>545288243
    That image is actually wrong, the US is significantly more forested than it was 100 years ago. Most the Western world is, the only real exception is Australia.
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    >>545282371
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Zillowgonemild/comments/1xg6sia/199k_8bd_6ba_watertown_ny/
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    >>545286772
    but plenty of those "rural" regions are pretty close to civilization, aren't they? small towns-tier and a short train ride to a megacity with lots of weeb stuff and qt girls, no?
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    >>545288243
    >Pic
    Yeah okay come to New England its all fucking woods from Connecticut to Maine.
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    >>545288243
    the bottom image is the view i see from my balcony. i see coyotes, cougars, owls, hawks, squirrels, bunnies, rats and other animals all the time. i live on the east side of portland.
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    >>545281441
    >1.5 hour drive is a lot
    lel
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    >>545281328
    about 15 years ago estonia was selling large amounts of land with a house on it for super cheap but under the condition you have to be a farmer. it was all the rage on /pol/.
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    >>545292305
    It's a lot in tiny countries like Latvia but not here because major cities are 350km apart. But Americans are proud their time is worthless, I forgot
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    >>545282574
    >you can hear the groans of the spirits who died from the masturbation machines
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    >>545281328

    The avg median slaary in Lithuania is around 2k EUR

    In other words this "house" is around 29 years of saving for the avg Lithuanian. Maybe 10-15 if its a couple working together.


    In the US you can buy a 500k$ house in 2-3 years if you team up/find a good partner and are average abled.
    Plus in shitholes like Lithuania you also have to deal with corrupt gov officials that will incur even more fees on you.


    It's better to live in India than places like Lithuania, Serbia, Poland etc.
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    >>545295984
    I know a guy used to sell crumbling East Euro 'lakeside country retreats' to Germans. The photos (and the properties) were legit, just, the second as the new owners would take a break from renovating the fuckers and leave them unattended, the locals would sneak by and swiftly unrenovate them, thieving fucking everything down to copper pipes. Danke for the building material Hans.
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    >>545281328
    That doesn't look like a house, it looks like a rotting school or apartment building or something. All it needs is a little TLC (truckloads of cash) to bring it back.
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    >>545282574
    sovl
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    >>545281328
    Bought my apartment sized 48 m2 for 10k here in Finland. Used to rent it before that for 560€/month.
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    >>545281328
    Are the ghosts free or is there a ghost tax?
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    > be me
    > buy a 500 year old house for 50K
    > plan to invest another 100K on renovations
    > learn about heritage protection laws
    > renovations using original materials and techniques will cost 250K
    > lol, no money left
    > can't sell it to anyone
    > while still being responsible for the historical building
    > the roof caved in
    > receive a 10K penalty for failing to renovate
    > that's okay, I can live in a tent nearby
    > gypsy neighbours ate all my dogs
    > receive a foreclosure notice for failing to pay the tax for energetically inefficient house
    10/10, will invest in another EU country soon
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    >>545281484
    >1.5 hours one way is an average daily commute for Americans
    really?
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    >>545281328
    Why dontcha buy a tent or wood cabin at this point?
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    >>545296960
    And they do not see the connection between gypsydom and this bureaucrat monstrosity. No way people want freedom from work and cheap housing???? How dare they
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    >>545285804
    You would be bored shitless in 3 hours.
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    >>545297125
    We're slaves.
    What more could be said.
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    >>545281484
    >1.5 hours one way is an average daily commute for Americans

    How does one have any free time then? 8 hour sleep 3 hour drive 8 hour work thats 19 hours.

    Then you account for getting ready for work, cooking eating showering. Leaves you with 2 hours to spare per day. wtf
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    >>545297296
    Ask the red baron lol
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    >>545296961
    >>545297296
    Quite some people who do that here too. Though not the norm perse.
    This is why I WFH
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    >>545281328
    Nigga, it's not a house. It's a ruin. It has to be restored, which will cost more than demolishing it and build a new building from scratch.
    And to make it worse, it's Europe.
    >bong bong ching chong ding dong sir I'm defending European values! You can't touch this building! You can't alter its shape in any significant way. You have to apply for a permission to do any restoration work. This ruin stands here for 100 years, it's got a status of a historical building, it's VERY important
    >also we don't accept bribes unless it's millions and you are one of the large business entities funding our election campaign
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    >>545285804
    Why would I larp as a killer of native Europeans
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    >>545296784
    >10k
    Are you missing a 0? That's...6 months of saving?
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    >>545282297
    Bruh
    Canadian culture is driving and spending
    To that effect ee describe distance as time
    > oh x is about y hours away
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    >>545297296
    They don't cook, they consume goyslop
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    >>545297347
    >Denkmalschutz
    How is this shit even legal.
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    >>545296960
    Burgers might think it's an exaggeration. It's not.
    But whatever, a janitor in the US makes more money than a doctor here. They can afford majestic fuckups.
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    >>545283418
    Why do you think faggots molest children?
    Its how they reproduce
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    >>545297385
    Real estate is pretty cheap in Finland while it's crazy expensive elsewhere.
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    >>545297296
    >he doesnt work 100hr weeka within the albertan oblast harvesting black gols from deep underground while suffering -40c 8 months of the year
    You snowflakes sicken me
    Lower your tone
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    >>545281441
    1.5 hours isn't a huge distance here. Honestly there's probably a nice town nearer to this than many of the country houses around my area.
    >>545297296
    Pretty much young professionals have to choose between using nearly all their wages on rent in the city, or to live outside of it and communite an hour every day.

    Or just live like a poor in a smaller town and fight for the few good jobs there.
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    >>545297296
    I did 1h40m commute one way for a while its not that bad if you take the train+bike. 20m bike 1h train 20min bike to work it works fine since you no longer need to do any sports. You can read books on the train or idk what others like. I cook on weekends prepare everything and then just heat it up. Wouldn't recommend it for years but for first job its tolerable.
    Its also why I am surprised when the anon says 90min commute is normal.
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    >>545281484
    that's 1.5h of highway
    OP's is 1.5h of mountain roads
    it's not the same
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    >>545297577
    >1.5 hours isn't a huge distance here
    Nigga 2h means going through 2- 3 voivodeships. It's a large distance. Nobody would ever do it every day. Twice.
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    >>545281328
    Its cheap because those houses are not modern and require another 100K+ to renovate and fix

    everything from insect/rodent infestation, black mold, lots and lots of disgusting rotting shit inside
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    >>545281328
    That house is a rotting hulk.
    You're effectively only buying the land for 58k euros.
    You get a plot of about 150 x 150 metres.
    I'd say the price is about right.
    If you want to refurbish the house, you're looking at much much bigger expense, possibly half a million, it looks like a very big house and basically everything about it is falling apart.
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    >>545297613
    >bike
    cuck
    also enjoy the rain
    >train
    cuck and idiot. You have to add +30 minutes because it's train and then taxi (traffic jams) to reach the destination.
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    >>545297780
    It would be cheaper to demolish the house and build a new one, 2bh
    So really the price is only for the land
    >>
    everything looks cheap compared to amerishart and leafcuck RE prices
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    >>545281328
    It's a baltic shithole, not Europe.
    (There's a reason why Lithuania has a flag with pan-African colors.)
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    >>545297296
    Americans are retarded slaves
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    >>545281328
    Nigga that building needs renovations 3x the price of that.
    >>
    >>545281328
    Wait till you hear about the 1eur historical houses in Italy, that will cost you millions to adhere to renovation laws
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    >>545295984
    >The avg median slaary in Lithuania is around 2k EUR
    >In other words this "house" is around 29 years of saving for the avg Lithuanian
    Where did you learn to count, bro? 2k eur per month, means they can pay for the house in 2.5 years.
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    >>545292411
    Your country and your people are nothing but scamming welfare kings. You're worse than niggers and Jeets as far as I'm concerned.
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    >>545299309
    >Where did you learn to count
    he is american
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    >>545299309
    its kinda difficult to save 2k EUR per month on 1.6k EUR take home total tbf.
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    >>545281611
    he's talking about cityfags for whom it takes 1 1/2 hours to travel across their shithole city, sitting in traffic at 200 stoplights. in normal (real America) it's a 10 minute drive to about anywhere you need to go
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    >>545297803
    its a intercity train its very consistent same with the bike over all the time I never had a big variation its always 20min because. A car would have been far worse because its driving 100km one way. Rain sucks no way around it but you get used to it.
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    >>545297577
    The US is mostly empty and uninhabited.
    For example, there are only 100 million white people in the US compared to 600 million in Europe. Europe is slightly larger than the US geographically but with 6x the amount of people worth interacting with you can see that the need to take long journeys are greatly reduced.
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    >>545287312
    >I was proven wrong but I'll double down on being a full retard
    you fucking nigger
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