why don't we make it hard to own and rent multiple houses and just let the state give them to people in need?why should one person be allowed to own thousands of houses when one can't afford a mortgage to begin with?
>>545258415ITT rentoids seething impotently.
>>545258415Op is off to rape kids
>>545258415I wish all rentoids who seethe terminal ass cancer
>>545258415Pay up or live on the streets, poorfag niggers
>>545258415Cause I m lazy :(
>>545258415So you feel that stealing someone else's shit will create wealth? Post pics of your brown hand with timestamp.
>>545258525>>545258549>>545258585>>545258610why this makes you so angry?
>>545258692Poor fag angry
>>545258415because this mentality leads to the great leap forward
>>545258415"Well sure, Elmo. That's because they took a fincancial risk that we rentoids didn't, it's not like you and I can just provide living space just anywhere, do you think you are entitled to existing for free like nobody else? Gee Elmo, I think you might be a retarded nigger."
>>545258675what makes you believe that?
>>545258415Renting should be illegal and all properties currently being rented (houses and apartments) should be forced to sell to their current tenants for a predetermined price based off of fair market conditions. If the current tenant cannot afford the price of their current house or apartment, then they probably shouldn't have been living there in the first place and will unfortunately be forced into the street
>>545258692I don't like entitled brats.
>>545258847being lucky justify taking advantage of others?
>>545258865if being forced to the streets is part of the system then the system needs individuals to be living in the street to work
>>545259047If someone uses section 8 housing and cannot realistically afford their home, then they don't deserve it. A mortgage cost less than rent anyway it's just the barrier to entry that stops people. Forcing homes to sell at a fair market price and knocking all this bullshit inflation off the top will bring that barrier to entry down to a place were, essentially, all working Americans will be able to participate. If you want forever gibs, fuck off
Reality glitches are tax evasion
>>545258610He types from moms basement
Dunk Unc just thinks memery is expensive
>>545258415Stop being antisemitic
>>545259222Explain.
>>545258415>rent is theftNo one forced you to not buy a house. Stop being a nigger and get a mortgage you silly faggot.
>>545259449My original point >>545258865
>>545258950>being luckyIt took me years to save up enough to buy my rental property. It wasn't luck, it was hard work and living like a pauper. And it's not as if being a landlord now is smooth sailing, literally every fucking day there's a new issue to deal with, or a repair that needs to be done. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about you ignorant faggot.
>>545260351I do because I own property, youre fucking lying, its not even close to "every day" if you got shit to fix even once a week youre renting out a hotel thats about to collapse, you got mommy and daddy to help you and now you dit on your ass and do nothing.
>>545260503Nice projection, loser. I don't rely on my parents like you do, cocksucker.
>>545258692Why are you a fascist? You gave you the right to randomly rape kids
>>545260503Rentoids are poor and stupid and generally break shit all the time for no reason. Rentoids are niggers.
ITT real estate titans
>>545258415rent is not theft, its slavery
>>545258415Instead of many landlords you want one landlord?
>>545258415Tax is Rent, Rent is Theft, Tax is theft.Ban Taxation, rent will dissapear automatically.
>>545258415>you VILL own nozing and you VILL be happypay up, rentoid
>>545259222rent priceses are not controlled anyone who owns an entire block can jack up the rent to the point you can't afford it anymoreif you're a single individual living independently you must need government help because a standard salary is not enough and neither minimum wage
>>545258865Fuck off, commie faggot.
taxes is theft
>>545258415Because giving away shit for free does not work, see self-collapsing communism and niggers wrecking the free shit they've been gifted.There is a reason one of the biggest revolutionary achievements of Napoleon was the establishment of property rights.That said exerting some level of control over the housing markets is vital even in a hypercapitalistic system, pretending communism is not only a viable alternative but *the* viable alternative shows how disingenious and manipulative your false dichotomy is.
>>545263521hey look it's the totally real alien pic that shuts down 4chin every time it's le posted!! (never happened)
>>545258415what's really gonna chap yer hide is finding out that they discharge debts from all these houses with the vatican in fictitious corporate personage schemes only private banking negotiable instruments babylonian money magik real estate attorneys know how to scam you've been playing a game so diabolically rigged that you didn't even know you were playing itthe principals in this fraud should absolutely have their peonage seeking heads piked along the post roads
>>545258415jokes on you I live in public housing
>>545263898Watch out bro. They will come after you.
>>545258415What do they mean can’t afford the property, it’s there’s, it would be more accurate to say that if they don’t pay rent then the owner of the property will cease to use it for hosting tenants and will instead employ it towards a different stream of income.
>>545258415Maoism fixes this
>>545263521Home ownership is communist?
>>5452647632×2 Section GridTien PatternOPSEC Code:Green
>>545258415you wanted unlimited 3rd worlders to flood into the country, you wanted this
>>545258415Because they’re not “given”, they’re paid for and maintained. There’s a difference. That’s why communist shitholes would rather fit 5 families in one house and let them all figure it out amongst themselves and their shitty coupons for food.
>>545258865>forced to sell to their current tenants for a predetermined priceFuck that. Confiscate it from the owners and give it to the rentee.Get your antisemitism up boy!
>>545258675>Thinks that people with brown hands care about such things
>>545258415But Zoe if the landlord can't afford the property without your rent you're homeless.
>>545258415Why dont we make it hard for banks to lend money without consequence of default? Why should one bank be allowed to to create money without adding any economic value? Are you a jew?
>>545262931Good shit skins like you can go back
>>545265420Kill the landlord and banker then?
Someone post the meme of Henry Orbit from The Jetsons and how he was replaced by an absentee landlord who uses a leasing company that hires illegals to work everything cheap while that absentee landlord pockets the difference.
>>545258415free rent, 98.5% of the residents were unemployed, fully supported by welfare and other assistance, you can live there
>>545258415jewsI mean why isn't this the first replyhaving multiple houses wouldn't be a problem if not for jewsrenting would not be a problem if not for jewsbut then you have jews, and no matter how you structure your law they will always, ALWAYS find a way to circumvent it and destroy communities to gain one extra shekelthe ONLY solution is to solve that problem first. after that it doesn't really matter. It's a non issue.
https://youtu.be/6I-A5hw6TtI?is=0X-R4dXySkbAALTZ
>>545258415>rent is theftI bought my own flat a decade ago. The constant financial drain of keeping the property maintained is a pain in my arse I could do without. Sure, I own an appreciating (for now) asset, but ownership has tied me down, and kept me from doing all the things I used to do when I was renting. It has been very nice, having my own space, just how I like, and not having to deal with the shit of shared accomodation, but the idea that paying rent to stay in someone elses property is theft is serious retardation.Blackrock buying up the housing stock is theft.
>>545259047> but the state needs me, how would they collect taxes otherwise, they need my taxesDio caneWake the fuck upThey print the money, they create your reality, they are playing with you because they're sick perverted things in the shape of a human being that hate all that is good and holyThe system sure as fuck doesn't need you, it is in fact in the process of removing you from existence, and you will not figure that out until the boot is on your own neck
Rent isn’t theft but usury is, and almost all landowners in our country acquired their property through the usurious money printing system which functions as a de facto pyramid scheme that inflates asset prices and rents for existing owners at the expense of non-owners, which in our society usually means young white people who should be at starting families What I said above is obviously the only possible correct opinion. If you contradict anything I said then it’s because you are an evil person
>>545258525MY DICK IS VIRILE! IT IS THE VILEST DICK IN THE WORLD! IT SEETHES LIKE A GOLDEN STAFF!DO NOT EVER SAY MY DICK DOESN'T WORK!
>>545258585MY ASS'S CANCER DOESN'T NEED OR WANT YOUR HELP! I GOT ASS CANCER WITHOUT YOU, AND I'LL DIE OF ASS CANCER WITHOUT YOU!WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN ANUS! ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE NIGGERS TONGUING IT?
>>545258415It's already hard to own multiple houses. It's much easier to own many houses.In order to make even a modest living from renting them out you need to own nearly a dozen family homes or equally profitable apartments because all the costs of property tax, maintenance, insurance, administration and finally income tax doesn't leave much of the rent to you. Every now and then some major repair or replacement becomes necessary. The rentoid couldn't cough up the 50k for a new roof and he wouldn't want to, even if he could. Unless perhaps you tell him that he would own the house if he did. Do you now see?t. poor landlord with only two homes and four apartments, most of which in Germany
>>545265760a final solution?
Landlords are not even half as expoloitative as bankers.
>>545258415>why should one person be allowed to own thousands of houses when one can't afford a mortgage to begin with?If you want to ensure that no one ever builds multi-family (this is what the industry calls "apartment buildings"), go for it. You are a communist, and every single one of your impulses will do the exact opposite of what you hope for. Euthanize yourself.
>>545265760>they will always, ALWAYS find a way to circumvent it and destroy communities to gain one extra shekelLike when kikes enslave you to Walmart for $0/hr, because you smoke weed or have coke? Kikes dont even believe anything put them in camps.
>>545266161Jewish behavior represents a powerful generic group strategy so even if you kill them all the archetypical behavior will remain. It’s an eternal war between the generative and the parasitic that never ends
>>545266189>communists don't build apartment buildingsDumbass
>>545258415Look at the houses in Cuba, that is how it looks when the state takes over housing.Read the Soviet authors complaining endlessly about the shared apartments assigned by the government. We already did all these shit policies, 1/3 of the world spend 75 years running that experiment and all of them went back to capitalism, except for North Korea (they recently removed the word “socialist” from the name of its constitution) and Cuba.
>>545258847The financial "risk" landlords take is that if they fail they become normal people.
>>545267041>DumbassIn the Soviet Union, 3 or 4 families would have to share an apartment, hot bunk style. People waited decades for the communist government to build the apartment buildings... despite the fact that people would have PAID to live in one if only someone could have been incentivized to build those. One of us is a dumbass, that's for sure.
>>545258415The state taking them to give to other people is theft.
>>545258415>if you want to live here it's 1200 a month plus shit.>OKNoooooo I'm victim here this guy is stealing my money!!! Rentoids are too stupid to live.
>>545258415Because this person puts his name on the paper if things don't work. Nobody is prohibiting you from putting your name on it and owning it yourself.
>>545267923Yeah exactly, if they misuse their land for nonvaluable ends they will lose their land, they are entrepreneurs engaged in the price discovery of land, they are an essential part of a functioning economy.
how about buy 1 billion of the polycarbonate dome with bathroom?
>>545258525Homeowners seethe because having a single landlord is smarter than letting a HOA full of nosy Jewish women micromanage your life.There's no such thing as "owning" property, you're just a rentoid who pays a higher price.
T. actual multi property landlord I have to respond to some of this dross.>>545259222"IF some hew won't lock you into debt slavery, you don't deserve the thing"Noone can afford anything important, houses and even cars included. At some point "buy" and "own" was converted to mean "borrow". This is bad >>545260351This is closer to the truth and this faggot>>545260503 Is a slum lord and makes us look bad. Properties require CONSTANT maintenance. I'll just go over my maintenance long for last WEEK: cut grass, rake leaves daily (it is fall here) put out trash 3x a week(in the city landlord has to with special bins and procedures) Fix broken window rod, Mortar broken step post, fix shower sliding door, remove plastic from electric stove top (tenant put plastic on hot electric stove top) In winter snow shoveling and salting, oiling boiler, replace weather stripping all windows and doors, shut off hose pipes to avoid pipe bursting. That was last week.I have a list of literally 130 projects.This doesn't cover insurance, inspections, fines, taxes, compliance and hiring services beyond my skillset. Specialized tools, materials, delivery and cleaning fees. All of this NON slumlord (non jewish) landlord deal with and there's much more.>>545261366PPL who rent do seem to break things randomly, but property naturally deteriorates with use due to entropy.>>545266101This, except in America you can just make a living from a half dozen if you do most of your own work (as I do). Most landlords have full time jobs because owning property is essentially a part time job until you get about 6 properties. Final word: renting is like any other service. and just so you know landlords don't actually own shit, essentially we rent the property from the bank, state or country or city for the privilege of maintaining their property for them in exchange for what ppl are willing to pay, MAYBE. Let's not get into the nightmare of dealing with tenants who simply do not pay.
>>545258415Why would the state give something for free?
>>545265606And you would still be homeless or being raped in prison by niggers who are also as worthless as you.
>own something>allow someone else to use it for a fee>"OMG YOU'RE STEALING FROM ME"Communists are retarded. Get a job a buy your own fucking house you worthless loser.
>>545259545>No one forced you to not buy a house. Stop being a nigger and get a mortgage you silly faggot.You will literally die without shelter. Imagine believing that usury is the solution to this or any problem.>>545263521Renting is communist/socialist. In a communist/socialist country their is one landlord, the state, and everybody rents, either through actual rent, or forced labor. In the current system, communist style central control of housing is oligopolized through a handful of huge firms like Blackrock. When only owning is possible, private property ownership is maximized among actual citizens. It's one of the most anti-collectivist positions possible.
>>545258950>being luckyBeing responsible.>taking advantage of othersNigger, you want to force people into letting bums, drug addicts and retarded teens to live inside their houses for free.
>>545274070The state (at least the US state) is based on the idea that the government exists to protect your rights, rather than the Hobbsian social contract model of rights surrendered to the state for order and security. The state doesn't endow you with freedom of speech for example, it exists to protect others from infringing on it. Of course this doesn't always happen in practice, but it is the actual philosophical and judicial framework it's built on.When it comes to housing, it's not the state's job to give you "free housing", just like it's not the state's job to give you free speech. But it *is* the state's job to preserve legal environment where home ownership is possible, just like free speech or freedom of religion. This is because home ownership is an essential part of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Legally shutting down firms like BlackRock effectively redistributing them to the citizens is completely legitimate and anti-socialist.
>>545266939America can start by killing all Jews then go from there. How can we know it doesnt work if we dont try?
The homeowner took the financial risk in buying the house. A renter did not. The homeowner is screwed if something goes terribly wrong.The renter is not.Ad Nauseum.Sure, as a renter you can't paint the walls. But on the flip side, if there's a leaky roof or sinking foundation you're not on the hook. Individual landlords aren't the problem and thinking so just shows your mental ineptitude.It's companies like Blackrock that swoops in and makes housing unaffordable.Want a life hack? Get a used RV. It's yours, you can do what you want. Just pay rent (like 600) a month at an RV park.Move when you want a change of scenery or niggers start encroaching.
>>545275241>The homeowner is screwed if something goes terribly wrong.>The renter is not.He is. If something goes wrong with the house he's living in he's immediately effected. Laws requiring landlords to keep houses is proper tenantable condition exist for this exact reason. Different landlords and different houses all carry different counterparty risk. Ask any accountant; signing a lease (as a tenant) is always a liability.
>>545272419>Final word: renting is like any other service. and just so you know landlords don't actually own shit, essentially we rent the property from the bank, state or country or city for the privilege of maintaining their property for them in exchange for what ppl are willing to pay,Correct. Most landlords are just middlemen for usurer bankers. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>545258692Tenting out is sufficient hard enough. Remove the demand aka niggers, you communist faggots.
>>545262931I own a few single family rentals. I could "jack up rents" but I don't. Current rentniggas pay on time, take care of minor issues and maintain the homes. If I do, I risk losing dependable tenants when they move, have to turn the place, advertise it and maybe have it sit vacant for a few months. Market incentives work you commie loser.
>>545258415Given the fact that we all collectively paid for every apartment complex through the inflation caused by the bank loan the landlord most likely used to build them, we should just declare all US citizens owners of whatever property they're renting or ever rented. Doing that also translates to nearly a trillion extra dollars a year injected into our economy, while improving the lives of every US renter. Invaders should still pay rent until they're kicked out, they can pay the US citizen former renters.The government confiscated masks and hand sanitizer from hoarders during covid without compensation, landlords should similarly have their assets seized.
>>545275954The "full value" is high because "gigachad", actually BlackRock, bought up the supply wtih money the government gave them for free. If the government gave "basedjak" the money for free he'd own the house instead.
>>545258415Get a job nigger.
>>545275241Landlords are a problem. My dishwasher broke and I couldnt fix it. My boomer landlord had to complain about driving up to fix HIS house. I would love to fix it. But it isnt my problem. I pay this old man to manage what he can not because a bank doesnt want to risk it on me. Fuck the bank. They gave all my friends loans that fucked them in the ass over college but a loan for housing is where they cross the line? Fuck all of them and you.
>>545260503>hotelDo you mean an apartment ESL?Hotels are for people who need a night to crash or are on the road. A completely different beast with different standards.
>>545276225the full value is high to force you into rentbanks wont ever give you a loan to flip scam apartments unless you already have your own money to cover the loan with the purpose of just not spending your own savingsthey're basically buying it on rent and your rent is paying their rent accumulating over time before finally selling it after the renter moves away due to 2 year contractif he extends you don't care since he is de facto not actually spending moneyin commie countries owning apartments is actually mafia businesspeople end up dead if they refuse to relinquish control over ownership making renting not as bad as it could be
>rent is theftHow? You are willingly paying, nobody is forcing you to rent. I'm to the point I want to sell my house and rent because 350 a month goes towards insurance and property tax. I consider property tax theft. Your "property" doesn't belong to you if toy have to pay the government every year to live in it.
>>545277960>You are willingly payingNobody is willingly paying. They're unwillingly paying because they can't own because BlackRock and pals bought everything with money the government gave them. It's like saying people in a siege are "willingly paying" a bar of gold for a piece of bread.
>>545258415Free stuff is too frequently treated like shit and thus ends up having little or no value.Handouts collected from generous, well-meaning, and endlessly naïve normies for the "migrants / refugees" swarming through Europe, chasing the nations with the biggest gibs, threw the gifts 20 steps after they got them. Bottles of water, took one sip, and tossed that too.They should have gotten a bullet at the border.Our homegrown, entitled, commies and pinkos deserve the same.>video and pic related[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQu41ffoSs ]
>>545278204>Free stuffThis is dishonest reframing. You're the one pretending not to understand. The argument isn't that housing should be free, it's that it should be cheap enough to own. This was normal, everyday life 50 years ago, so arguments that this is impossible are wrong. Just return to the relevant policies of 50 years go. Almost no immigration, almost no permitting, BlackRock, etc. nonexistent.
>>545258692They're eggy faggots that's why lol, I bet none of them even own a home and they still live with mommy. I own a home and think you should too, granted you're White like me otherwise fuck you niggerjeet. All White men should be given free homes and jobs and maids to cook and clean for them. Don't listen to those other fags, they hate their own race and are too stupid to see it.
>>545258415What politicians call to ban ownership of multiple homes?Why is rent theft but paying property tax okay?
>>545278046It must suck to live where you do. I hate that my house is paid off but I have to pay 350+ a month so I don't lose it.
>>545278046>BlackRock and pals bought everythingWhy is it after years of seeing this claim, we've yet to see a list of properties these firms and venture capitalist own?Seems like any easy list to compile, especially if crowd sourced.
>>545258415Bring back the homestead act
>>545278432This anon gets it
>>545260351If you didn't get in early enough, inflation would have eaten your savings and you would have lost the value of your earnings, having nothing to show for it but wasted time and energy. Many are in this situation, so what's your message to them? "I got mine, fuck you"?
>>545278538You're just pretending not to understand what a shell company is.
>>545277960you can't opt out a shelter it's a primary needrent is outcome for owning the property and the landlord does not provide anything elsewhen the occasion to obtain or make a house is denied you have no choice but to exchange your money for renta mortgage is the same concept of theft where the seller has no risk and immediate payout and you are obliged to pay to keep your title
Lula and PT order Interpol to arrest Flávio Bolsonaro. Once Flávio Bolsonaro is in Brazil, they might execute him."The Workers' Party (PT) requests the preventive detention of Flávio Bolsonaro and his inclusion on Interpol's red notice list."https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/republica/pt-pede-prisao-preventiva-de-flavio-bolsonaro-e-inclusao-na-difusao-vermelha-da-interpol/
>>545278432It's called controlled opposition and wedge issues. You still believe le based Red republicans vs le evil blue Democrats? The left makes things worse and they right refuses to fix them. Neither want you to own property.
FRAUD IN BRAZIL'S 2026 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONThe 2026 Brazil Presidential Election Second and Final Round, which took place in October 25, had the time limit officially set to be from 08:00 until 17:00 and to need fingerprint scanning to be permitted to vote.Lula secretly ordered a judge from the STF (Supreme Justice Court of Brazil), a judge that Lula, himself, chose to be in office, Cristiano Zanin, to extend the voting time limit to until 19:00, but only in regions of Brazil in which Lula is more popular, such as the Northeast and North, and to allow 8.632 million people mostly from these regions to vote without fingerprint scanning, which is a process that, when used, might be a slow process in recognizing who that person is, depending on the condition of one's finger skin, by just showing some identification card to the election worker, with the intent of making the voting much faster in these regions, as people usually wait in long queues for their turn to vote. In many cities, the voting continued even after the time limit of 19:00. The STF judges have this level of power in Brazil. It was Lula who chose most of the STF judges.In October 4 (First Round):Lula: 53.879 million votesFlavio Bolsonaro: 56.104 million votesIn October 25 (Second, Final Round): Lula: 64.256 million votesFlavio Bolsonaro: 59.826 million votesFrom the First Round to the Second Round, Lula's votes had increased in 10.377 million, making him win by surpassing in 4.430 million votes the adversary Flavio Bolsonaro, which was leading in the First Round.As the STF is against Flavio Bolsonaro, Flavio Bolsonaro never really had the chance of becoming the Brazil's President.Time for a regime change in Brazil.HELP US OVERTHROW LULA AND THE STF FROM THE POWER IN BRAZIL.
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White land chad here, rent is due today! I expect an e-transfer in my account by the end of the day!! Pay up
>>545278649My house is paid off. I have to pay insurance and property tax. That runs me just over 350 a month. I've been paying fucking insurance and property tax for over 25 years and I have not gotten anything in return. That's 350+ a month that disappears because I own. That is ridiculous
>>545258415>rent is theft>>hey I give you one dollar if you give me this pencil for a minute.>>one minute later and the one dollar changed it's owner>>thanks>>thanksYeah its theft.ooor:it's niggers who don't want to pay their shit.
>>545278204it's not about giving free stuffyou are entitled to shelter and the possibility to provide the food that you needis when you have a monopoly that stuff is treated like shityou are not selling a service for a fair price considering that rent is not even a real service it's just a title>>545278362exactly
>>54525841580% of landlords only own one single rental property
>>545278950Hello Zigeuner. Remember me? We almost killed all of you haha ;)
>>545278362I bought a house 20 years ago, Instead of renting, I paid monthly bank mortgage similar to what other people paid as rent. Fter 15 years it was all paid, bank earning their shekels as usual. It is a choice. It's a risk, for both parties. Be stable, be dependable, be employable, bring a big chunk of 180 paychecks, and it's yours.Then watch teenagers and other clueless people argue how unfair it is, that they need to do the same, but they want a place in fucking Downtown Manhattan, not way out in the Boonies like some boring poorfag.Pottery.
>>545278950Ok, let's start by freeing up the entire supply owned by megacorps like BlackRock. Since that one affect these 1-rental landlords, you don't have any objection right?See, arguments like yours are like the dishonest arguments pro-abortion women give about "risk life of the mother" and other odd cases that represent a tiny fraction of the norm. They don't want to talk about the norm, which is elective abortion. The norm here is megacorps owning homes and apartments. You don't want to criticize that, so you're focusing on an edge case that's easier to defend rhetorically.
>>545279003You're just defending usury. They bank created the money the lent you from nothing, why do they deserve interest for this.
>>545278432if you truly own something and believe in fairness of those who reside in the same city where you are then collectively agreeing to pay a tax so you might have roads, schools, fountains and such is agreeing to return the value you created by owning the property and being allowed to do so
>>545278642What difference does it make if BlackRock or some LLC has the title of dozens to thousands of homes? Those can't be hard to connect either.
>>545279120It's called capitalism. It happens, there is nothing illegal about it. The simple solution is to not rent from places owned by the boogeyman.
>>545279274>Those can't be hard to connect either.If this were true corporations would not go through the trouble of creating shell companies. Again you're pretending not to understand basic stuff.>collectively agreeing to pay a taxIf you can't opt out, they you aren't agreeing, you're being coerced. Another leftist pretending not to understand basic definitions. Taxes are always coercive, or we'd use a different word, like "donation".
>>545279120Your ilk causes this by distracting from the real problem that is money printing and trying to raise our taxes
>>545279363>there is nothing illegal about it.Correct, the argument is that it should be made illegal. Laws vary arbitrarily according to time and place. Chattel slavery used to be legal, now it's not.>The simple solution is to not rent from places owned by the boogeyman.Just opt out of society bro! If you don't want to rent from BlackRock, you can rent from Vanguard! Ah, the free market choices of capitalism!
>>545278872school shootings and bad weather
>>545279463Deflection. Should we free up (as in, confiscate and auction direct to citizens) the supply of homes owned by megacorps? Yes or no?
>>545278945You are not entitled to anything, other than hopefully food & shelter until you are deemed as an adult (your society's age limit), and possibly eventually an inheritance later in life, from your parents.You first need something to contribute, some value, be helpful, be skilled, to someone willing to risk trusting that you will be worthwhile.It has never been enough to just breathe, and hold out your hand. Even monks in asia who do basically that, provide some service, to the brainlets who believe that system.
>>545258415The solution is Georgism. Don't tax what's on the land, tax the value of the land itself.
>>545279003it is not a risk for botha bank has a win win scenario where it keeps the down payment and the amount of money you gave them up until they seized the houseyou might lose the money and the housethey will sell the house again and make more money while you own nothing
>>545279711>You are not entitled to anything,Well see, yes you are, inalienable rights are the basis of our entire country, This include life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. For most people, this requires home ownership. So while you might not be entitled to the government *giving* you a home (just like you aren't entitled to the government, say, giving you something to speak about) you are entitled to an environment where home ownership is possible. Our government was literally created to facilitate this exact thing.
>>545279567No, we shouldn’t do anything because doing things is what got us into this mess and you are the useful idiot that voted for it every single time
>>545258415Rent is supposed to be a temporary thing -- you're only going to live somewhere for a couple years for school, you moved to a new city for work and need a place to live while you settle in, you're a travel nurse, you're taking a long vacation, that sort of thing. Landlords serve a purpose.The problem is that wages haven't kept up with inflation, corporations have pushed mass migration, and private equity went "ooo, here's something to squeeze every last penny out of."
>>545279930See folks there it is, just a veiled arguments to protect BlockRock, Vanguard, and rest of the Epstein bankster class.
>>545279510Uneducated poorfags want it made illegal to rent? I live in rural America and I don't see the world as you do. You seem to have a lot of hate towards blackrock and other jew companies. I bet you live in a large city. Sucks to be you.
>>545279978When you want wages to keep up with inflation you are implicitly conceding inflation as inevitable, this allows them to inflate more easily with the excuse being as long as wages are adjusted it isn’t a problem and so we have to renegotiate our wages every time and get a little taken away from us every time. Imagine if there was no inflation, then it wouldn’t even be a thought to have minimum wages, we would constantly have to take pay cuts as the economy got better and each time we would be a little better off than we were before instead of the number going up and our lives getting worse. Demand a gold fucking dollar, it’s more important to your prosperity than anything else you could ask for.
>>545280063You’re a useful idiot retard
>>545271121You have to be desperate or retarded to buy property anywhere with a HOA unless it's a rural place where the covenant is just "pay dues for road maintenance/plowing."
>>545279978Yes this is how rent seeking is supposed to work. An ancillary service. Because of the mass financialization you're describing it's turned into a form of servitude and exactly the negative externality that every non-jewish economist correctly categorized as such,.
>>545258865Buying a house isn't that hard if you aren't a retarded fuckup. Zoomers and a lot of millenials (my gen) problem is that they were told those feelings of anxiety were unnatural and you're allowed to just fuck off when you feel anxious. That is your brain telling you that you are fucking up and needto buckle the fuck down instead of being lazy nigger dipshit. >omg I have anxiety so I can't go to workYou have anxiety because you're fucking up and deep down you know at some point you're going to be too far behind, too uneducated, lacking work experience, and savings to live. Buying a house at 25 should be attainable for most people if you didn't spend all your money on stupid shit, worked full time since highschool, and kept bettering yourself. All the faggots still working at gas stations at 25 wasn't a surprise to anyone.
>>545280152>Uneducated poorfags want it made illegal to rent?There will always be a small, appropriate market for rent. The problem is that people are being arbitrarily priced out of ownership. Rent should truly be a choice, not an imposed default. Of course, rent should also be dramatically cheaper than it is now. It's crazy how suggesting that returning to the sane policies of 50 years ago that made all this a reality gets you called a communist.>>545280218Picrelated. Not an argument.
>>545280393Deflecting by calling me a deflector, posting not an argument after ignoring my arguments and reducing the conversation to ad hominem, I can see I’m dealing with a seasoned leftist. Keep telling yourself how everything should be while ignoring that your big government caused all this.
>>545258415I can't even trust the state to deliver the mail, and you expect me to trust them with my home?
>>545280393OK. What are thoughts on property tax and insurance? I'm not sure if toy posted your stand on those. I think those are theft. Renting a place you are getting a service for your money being spent. Owning, you have to pay insurance and property tax and you get nothing in return for those. How many people actually file an insurance claim on a loss of their home?
>>545280309that's only possible if your starting wage is 2k and you start at 1884x2=168k if you never buy anythingyou've skipped college to get this result and you haven't spend even a cent in those 7 yearsits unrealistic but it is possible on paper
>>545272419>landlords don't actually own shitThat's not real wealth. If you take it further, we are all just passing through, the native Americans always suspected the white mans sickness - always wanting something - is based in private property, a concept foreign to them even to many this day. From what I hear tell...
>>545280309> Buying a house at 25 should be attainable for most people if you didn't spend all your money on stupid shit, worked full time since highschool, and kept bettering yourself. All the faggots still working at gas stations at 25 wasn't a surprise to anyone.>t. Lying globohomo remoralization shill
>>545280577Funniest thing about commies is they are so out of touch to this day they will cite the mail as proof of communism being possible even though everyone has always hated the mail because of government. They are literally just dunning kruger maxxed with no awareness of the world at all.
>>545258415Can we allow owners to sell properties that they don’t want and can’t get rid of at survivable cost to the government and let taxpayers cover it then?
If you don’t like it, just build your own
>>545280649>I can't save 50k in 7 years of workingStay pleb, nigger.
>>545274656>usury is the solutionNo, but renting is a form of usury worse than a mortgage.
>>545279728The bank may pull imaginary money from a spreadsheet, but the family I bought the house from, got their very real, fat stack of money, that I did not have, but the bank did, and I soldiered on, and paid it back, bit by bit, with interest, over 15 years, until nothing was owed, and now it all belongs to me. Nothing imagined. My time to my employer, employer paid me a salary, part of that went to honor the mortgage contract.It's not a new concept.
>>545279120>let's start by freeing up the entire supply owned by megacorps like BlackRockWhat do you think "end the fed" is?
>>545280744Or be jewish and get a jew loan. Lol, like landlords are out there building 99% of rental properties. Silly goy. The issue is finance and banking.
>>545280744>eating cookies is the same as charging a mother and her children 2000$ to live, repeatedly, for years
>>545280601Property tax is absolutely theft, especially on your actual residence. Americans should be able to own a home inviolably. I haven't finished forming my opinion about insurance, but there's no question it's fucked to hell at the moment.>>545280769Mortgages are absolutely usurious.
>>545280659It's the same with "free" healthcare.They use Sweden circa 2005 as an example of it working, ignoring the fact that it had a homogeneous society of less than 10 million people.And they think that would somehow work here in muttmerica with 350 million, over half of which are brown.
>>545280744>If you don’t like it, just build your ownBoomers passed laws making this illegal. Again, is it so controversial to return to the legal environment that worked for them?
>>545280744i've tried but it gets destroyed due to being illegal
>>545280814Or use cash! Didn’t your ancestors leave you generational wealth?!
>>545258415If you wouldn't agree to it they wouldn't be able to do it.BuyDon't rent
>>545280837The comic literally is an example of free housing and free food lol.
>>545280925Oddly would have but it was stolen by jews.
>>545280840Health insurance is the scam that makes healthcare so expensive in the US, among other regulations, but it’s also only because the government is involved
>>545280608Minimum wage is like $15/hr in the u.s. Thats 30k/yr net. You get back most of your income tax taken out at that rate. First time buyers get a lot of help and you don't need more than 5% down and in savings. Young people are mostly fucking retarded and think if they spend all their money one week it's only another week until they have it all back. This thought never dies and they are always broke asking themselves "how". You spent all your money, idiot.
>>545280903Sounds like you don’t know how to live extrajudicially, statist.
>>545280890Also ignoring that sweden gave up on socialism
>>545280970You shouldn’t have done that
I pay $2000 a month to rent a one bedroom apartment. meanwhile my parents pay $1400 a month in mortgage on a 4 bedroom house. the bank won't give me a home loan though because I'm "not economically viable." I'm not a commie so I don't think they need to make renting illegal, but I wish they would stop financially incentivizing landlordism. how about dropping property tax on the home you live in to 0 and jacking it up for any home you don't live in to 100%?
>>545280840Cool. We agree on property tax. The insurance thing is a complete scam. For over 30 years I have paid for car insurance and house insurance. I have not once ever needed to file a claim or get any money back because of something happening. This is all money spent on something (car insurance at least) I am forced to have by law and I have never gotten anything in return from it. If you go a year without having to file a claim or something, you should get reimbursed a certain percentage.
>>545281065Before I was born. Jews gonna jew.
>>545281101Yes, and I'm strongly inclined to your conclusion about insurance. It's certainly a scam and disaster now, without question.
>>545258415Go buy buy your own 8 million dollar building to live in then
>>545258415Go buy a half million condo then
>>545258415>rent is theft.Then get your own house/apartment nigger, someone worked for that hard or inherited it from someone else who worked hard to buy a house.I dont understand the gall of some of you to demand stuff for free from others, if I rent someone's house I fully expect to pay them for it since I am living inside THEIR property, why is it so hard to comprehend that?
>>545281208Right on. I just can't get behind rent is theft. I believe it's way too high, but after owning I can see why rent is high. The owner of the place someone is renting from (let's just say it's a 3 bedroom 2 bath house). That owner is probably paying 200 to 300 a month in property tax and another 2 to 300 for insurance. Right there is 500 a month the owner has to pay just because he owns the property.
>>545281101>For over 30 years I have paid for...house insurance.>I have not once ever needed to file a claim or get any money back because of something happening.When did you replace your roof?
>>545281379Policies nobody ever discusses:1. No corporate home ownership. Yes this includes "mom and pop" shell corps like LLCs. You want to rent? You're renting your personal property, with all the risk and gain that comes with it. No magical liability carve outs.2. Per person rental property cap until enough of the country is housed. No more hoarding the supply.3. No permits for single family homes, at minimum. Simpler process for apartments etc. We can't have people building the stuff we see in Chinese build collapse videos but the current process is retarded everywhere.4. No renting unless you own outright. No more of these bankster middleman mortgage ponzi schemes.5. Federal interest free loans for first time buyers. Citizens only of course.
>>545258415> YOU'RE the one providing housing to THEMWhy are commies so fucking stupid?
>>545278427Kek you’re a fucking retard
>>545281806How is the argument in the pic wrong? Somebody post the pic about the renting being the breadwinner for the landlord's family.
>>545259222Mortgages do not cost less than rent nowadays. In cities like LA, Seattle, SF, and NYC the cost of your typical mortgage assuming a 20% down payment is probably almost double the cost to rent. This is only really true in Midwest shitholes that no one wants to live in anyways.
>>545258933>”Entitled brats”And its asking for homes to be affordable and not expecting people to do impossible things.
>>545281540Ive only had my house about 16 years. The roof was replaced by the previous owner and they had it done because a tornado hit my town. I'll replace it again in the next 3 years.
>>545265837Blackrock isn’t really even doing that. Private equity owns like 2% of single family homes in the US. The vast majority are owned by either the family that lives in them, or mom and pop landlords with less than 4 units total. It’s a leftoid Redditor meme and you feel for it.
>>545282107>Blackrock isn’t really even doing that. Private equity owns like 2% of single family homes in the US.I've already explained this here. All these houses are owned through shell companies and subsidiaries.
>>545274656Blackrock and other private equity firms own approximately 2% of single family homes in the United States. Housing isn’t anywhere near oligopolized in the US.
>>545282069>I'll replace it again in the next 3 years.You'll use your insurance when you do.
So don't rent thenSolved that for you
>>545282177Lmao yeah they own the other 98% through shell companies. Are you actually that retarded?
>>545281714The same percentage of americans owns homes today as they have for the last 120 years, anon. Its around 65%. You're premise is a myth. BTW boomers had to deal with 27% interest rates in the 70s and 80s before you rant on about how they were all buying houses as gas station attendants. In fact boomers saw a decrease in homeownership with many of them not buying until their 30s. Same as it's always been except pre 1900 it was closer to 18% homeownership. >historically everyone owned landNo, historically everyone rented.
>>545282197>>545278642>>545282177Shell companies and subsidiaries are standard corporate structuring to reduce liability and avoid taxes. This is like arguing that "Alphabet doesn't really own a search engine" because Google owns it, not Alphabet.
>>545258415Cause the criminals are in power and until all their empires are burned to the ground (again for thr gagillonth time) they will not share. Its structurally designed to divide and conquor not provide an efficient allocation of housing to the populace, cause theyd rather play king of the hill on a mountain of mud than expand into the stars and give everyone a pile of dirt of their own.There was no place for Jesus to lay his head, one shouldnt expect any different
>>545267923>it doesn’t cost money to buy property and maintain it>That’s why all us poorfag commie retards have housesWell you definitely will always be a renter or doley loser
>>545281314>Then get your own house/apartment niggerThat’s the fucking problem, niggertardAll the homes are already owned and being sold at incredibly inflated rates, all because the US lets companies like Blackstone buy up all the houses and destroy supply. Your only options are to rent or hope your elderly family members put you in the will.
>>545281994>no one wants to live inI moved from NYC to Kansas and couldn't be happier. You're retarded. I own 40 acres with a shop and a cabin for what would get me 12x12ft^2 in NYC. >but muh cultureBitch please. Im raising kids not hosting a rap battle podcast. I work remotely and never have to deal with the "hustle and bustle" except for a few times a year AND I get hazard pay for having to go back to that shithole. Get fucked retard.
>>545281714I'm with you on a few of these, but the system would have to entirely change for a couple of those to work. I don't see us ever getting away from being a capitalistic society. Let's say I own 3 houses and I'm not a jew and I don't over charge for my places. I wouldn't just rent them to anybody. I'd rent them to people who I would think would take the best care of them. I'm not gonna rent to Jamal working at the gas station when I can have a nice family live in the home. If I had to have Jamal live in my place I would charge him a lot because I don't think he will not be a nigger and my place will suffer from it living there. People who own rental property should be allowed to charge what they want.
>>545282364>it doesn’t cost money to buy property and maintain itThis is such a silly argument. If the proceeds front rent didn't greatly exceed these costs, nobody would become a landlord.I have a humble suggestion: since landlords are horribly burdened by these tasks, they should sell at a cheap price at let an owner willing to selflessly undertake them (and for no profit!) do so.
>>545282287Yeah and those get counted as corporate ownership, regardless of the legal entity structure behind them. The reality is most homes are owned by individuals and married couples, and a small amount by corporations like blackrock.
>>545282437When I say rent caps I don't mean a cap on what you can charge, I mean the number of rental properties you can own/rent simultaneously.
>>545282237No, I won't, I'll take a loan out to get it done and then sell my place. I'll make a shitload of money because of the brand new house and I've been remodeling the inside. I gutted my place, got rid of all the lathe and plaster (walls and ceilings) had the place rewired all throughout and put up drywall and painted.
>>545258415you can make rents and apartments cheap in your local area with these simple tricks>gas jews>hang niggers>stone muslims>make using toilet mandatory
>>545258525Chinks were impotently seething before the commies took power, then they slaughtered them by the thousands. Would probably be good to ensure normal people get homes.
>>545281994>the most expensive cities are expensive thoGFY you midwit
>>545282461Equity is not the same things as revenue, smoothbrain. Did you skip economics in h.s?
>>545258415...it's literally not though retard? You're literally paying to live in someone else's house.
>>545282497But they stop counting as "BlackRock" or even "private equity" - that's the entire reason for the exercise. They count as a "small business" or a "mom and pop company" or whatever. If what you were saying was correct, you'd be the richest corporate consultant in the world because you'd be saving all these companies millions to billions in administrative and legal costs. You're pretending to believe this, just like some people pretend to believe Amazon had years of no profits and thus had a negative tax rate.Also, any argument about "Well BlackRock only owns some tiny percent so it doesn't matter" is a dishonest and bad faith argument aimed at protecting the poor, poor, megacorporations' "right" to own homes. If BlackRock owns even one home, that's one too many.
>>545282521OK. I understand. Anon, let's say you worked hard all your life, made a fortune and you invested in real estate, I'd want you to own as much as you possibly can. I get not letting jew companies and whatnot own too much, but that goes completely against capitalism. If there were laws made that capped a company from purchasing a certain amount of properties I would be all for it. As I was saying earlier, if you struck it rich and became a business and the best way for you to invest your money is in real estate, I'd want you to have as many investment properties as you possibly could.UH OH
>>545258415Is Zoe paying $20000 to replace the HVAC system?
>>545282461dip shit most small landlords renting houses are trying to use it as a way to get "free" exposure to appreciation. And a bunch are probably underwater right now. The big corp apartment owners are the ones making a killing.
>>545281974> How is the argument in the pic wrong? Because the owner doesn’t live there so you’re not providing them “le housing.”And because the owner could sell it at any time and tell renters (poorfags) to fuck off and go live in the park
>>545282839Thats an absurd price.T. Just upgraded muh unit for less than 10k.
>>545281974Bank owns the house technically
>>545282921>Because the owner doesn’t live there so you’re not providing them “le housing.”No, the renter is paying for the landlord's mortgage on another house.
>>545281949>no goyim it's wrong to want to help your race that's called communism and that's bad now vote for israel so we can have more free thingsKek you're a fucking jew
>>545283010No, this is legally untrue. The buy/mortgager is the actual owner and is recognized as such in law. The holder of the mortgage holds a lien in the event of default.
>>545282921>(poorfags)Just so you know the banker defines both the landlord and the renter as poorfags. If your interested in its profits or dependent on its favours your a slave to the money printer
>>545282461> and for no profit!> thanks for the time and money and effort and risk you put in, now give it to me without accounting for any of that. But even more brilliant:> If the proceeds front rent didn't greatly exceed these costs, nobody would become a landlord.>if the proceeds from farming or producing widgets didn’t exceed the costs of making them there would be no industry or foodYes, genius. Now you’ve got it.
>>545283074depends on the state. In some states it is almost all deed of trust which is where a title / escrow company holds the actual title with the lender as beneficiary in case of default by the borrower, who only gets the deed once loan is paid.
>>545283019>help your race by giving the shit you bought to othersYou’re doing great
>>545283074True, but still is legalese bullshit. As with lla paid off property but not paying taxes and losing it. Its not really yours, its not a natural right given by the creator.
>>545283018> No, the renter is paying for the landlord's mortgage on another house.Oh, you really are a clueless dumbfuck. That’s not how it works with my rental property. And hat about the guy who paid cash for his house(s)?Are they free from your greedy and lazy judgement?
>>545283264>community is bad>charity is wrong>help your race by profiting off itWe get it, you're jewish.
>>545283202Arguments justifying landlordism based on the fact that the landlord maintains the property are nonsense, because if the tenant owned the property instead, the landlord is relieved of that burden. If you offered to maintain a house as long as you lived in it in exchange for the landlord giving up the deed, would he accept? Of course not. But this *isn't* true for other things, like farming. Often, rent is so high the landlord just hires a property management company to cover these tasks and can still grift off the top for doing nothing besides having his name on a deed. This argument is like the argument married libtard women make about "working harder than men" by having to do household chores, when they'd have to do those anyway.
>>545283282Yes, I replied to anon who said the bank owns the house *techincally*.
>>545283320>And hat about the guy who paid cash for his house(s)?>Are they free from your greedy and lazy judgemenIt makes 100% difference to me. Id be team landlord not even with cash, i only need 100% reserve requirement banks. You cant just team up with a pedo, who prints money from nothing (0% rr est 2020), stealing from the public, to obtain private property, its communist as fuck and not capitalist in the slightest. Homeless are the lesser theives, and at the front pf the collective bargaining problem with the bank. When a person signs a mortgage a penny is stolen from every homepess person to get it, utterly whack
>>545283324Who are you quoting, commie?I certainly never said anything like that. >give us the fruits of your labor, and money, and risk, and if you don’t then you hate your fellow whites Kek. Poor fool. This approach is the gayest one yet. >only jews buy investment property Fucking bleak. NGMI
>>545283519Technically to the guys with the guns, not technically to the Guy who gives all the rights (God). All rights come from God, dont let them get in the way
>>545282829>As I was saying earlier, if you struck it rich and became a business and the best way for you to invest your money is in real estate, I'd want you to have as many investment properties as you possibly could.Well no. There should be a cap so that people who want to buy don't get squeezed into renting. This forces investors to put their money into something productive (like building new houses), rather than something extractive.
>>545282795I’m literally a CPA that consults private equity firms. I know what they do and how they function. Those shell subsidiaries are still corporations and that doesn’t change the fact that most homes are owned by individuals and not LLCs and other corporations. No blackrock is not setting up millions of shell companies so each can own 2 homes. Also Amazon was benefitting from NOL carry forwards. Basically the tax structure is setup so if you make losses in one year, you can carry them forward to net against income in future years. As they started to become profitable they were simply offsetting those profits with massive losses generated earlier in the life of the corporation. They weren’t hiding losses via shell companies you absolute fucking retard.
>>545283471> Often, rent is so high the landlord just hires a property management company to cover these tasks and can still grift off the top for doing nothing besides having his name on a deed.>often farmers hire farm hands, and grift off the top when they’re not even harvesting the produceDo you see how stupid you are?
>>545283604I'm quoting you. You said you were jewish.
>>545258415It doesn't make sense for a mortgage to be the same or lower than rent. Rent is supposed to be 0.7% of the value of a property. Shlomo Shekelstein would never in a million years give out a loan with such low interest, so the rent value by itself would not be enough to pay for a house.
>>545283471Renters that are good at planning and maintaining property are called homeowners.
>>545283736Farmers (even via their laborers) produce something. Landlords don't produce anything. All the "justifications" given for landlording are things that the tenant would be happy to do themselves, in exchange for not paying rent. Again, this is reflected in productive areas like agriculture, because people would rather pay for the cost of the produce rather than engage in it themselves.If this isn't clear enough, consider why rent is considered "passive income". Why is it classified that way if it's so much work?
If owning is cheaper than renting just buy a house. Why do you faggots always go after individual property owners and not investment firms like Black Rock? Renting is a service. Unless someone forced you to sign a lease against your will you fucking agreed to it. Try living withing your fucking means for once. Also maybe don't demand infinity government subsidized shitskin migration. Because that's a big part of what drives the price of rent up.
>>545283785> I'm quoting you. You said you were jewish.>1PBTIDThanks for stopping by
>>545258415why should i be punished because your lineage of good for nothing bums failed you?
>>545283858Wealthy people are called homeowners. There are millions of renters who take good care of their properties, but cannot afford a home.
>>545283942> Farmers (even via their laborers) produce something. Landlords don't produce anything. >all the farmhands can live outside in the rain instead of renting a house because renting houses, so people have shelter and living quarters, doesn’t provide a service (product) to anyone lol you’re precious. Youre trying SO hard to make your failed argument cogent. Hilarious
>>545258415Leftism is a mental illness.
>>545284073>lol you’re precious. Youre trying SO hard to make your failed argument cogent. HilariousNot an argument.
>>545283959>heh, I was almost forced to admit I'm jewish but I see here you've only posted once. Better luck next time.Lmao, typical jew
>>545283942Buying a house isnt that hard. If you cant unfuck yourself for long enough to save 40k, have a decent credit score, and work history then you shouldn't be allowed to mingle with people who can.
>>545258415This anti-landlord shit is so fucking jewish. Shut the fuck up.
>>545284119Ahhh the ol’>not an argument dodge and evade How novel. What about this argument that you intentionally didn’t reply to, you double digit commie imbecile?> Farmers (even via their laborers) produce something. Landlords don't produce anything.>all the farmhands can live outside in the rain instead of renting a house because renting houses, so people have shelter and living quarters, doesn’t provide a service (product) to anyone
>>545258415Just make renting illegal. People buy apartments in NYC, they can buy them anywhere.Boom, now you are building equity in the apartment you were formerly renting.The craziest thing is, Jews can loan you money for this. The fact they don’t push for this themselves proves that your misery is more important than money.
>>545283977More people own property, freely, than ever before in european history. By orders if magnitude. Homeownership rates in the u.s have remained unchanged for over 100 years inspite of your ridiculous perception of how bad things are. Buying a house takes effort. The imperative demands as much. You not liking it proves how unworthy you are.
>>545283942what they produce is optionality for the renter, the option to move in and out without the massive hassle that is real estate "ownership"
>>545284122> Lmao, typical jewGreat line of attack. Personally, I don’t like jews and I reject the talmud and torah. You?
>>545284357Easy on the chickens there.
>>545284256>all the farmhands can live outside in the rain instead of renting a house because renting houses, so people have shelter and living quarters, doesn’t provide a service (product) to anyoneBecause I refuted it already:>>545279120Farmhands often have on-site housing because it's physically necessary to work at that location. It's a tiny edge case. The overwhelming majority of people are stuck renting where boomers were easily able to buy. Again, is returning to those conditions so controversial?
>>545283667>went from 2% to somewhere under 50% you're a kike and you should kys
>just let the stateNo. Shut the fuck up. If you're crying this much about "capitalism" because of how it only incentivizes greed but your answer is to hand it all over to the greedy parasite class in government? Fucking RETARD.
>>545258692Probably because it is the same old commie birdshit talking points, we have heard a million times. People get tired of trying to reason with their unreasonable "demands". That is probably why anons are not friendly about the same tired topic.
>>545283942Houses are built because people buy them. If we weren't allowed to rent, no one would have built those houses in the first place. All those laborers, engineers and architects wouldn't have had a job. >but if renting were illegal then value of plot would be lower and the renter would be able to buy it and pay for the constructionNot really. The land only accounts for about one fifth of the value of the property, even if it went down to zero most people (who rent) would still not be able to afford the construction. >but the houses are already builtYes, but outlawing rent right now would either place a huge financial burden on the taxpayer, so all landlords could be properly compensated by the government, OR would require expropriation of millions of houses. Either option is basically communism and people would revolt.
>>545284328>More people own property, freely, than ever before in european history.And now, our currently trajectory is returning to those conditions.>>545284356>what they produce is optionality for the renterPure lies. People are renting because they have no alternative, not because they "chose" an "option". Typically dishonest rhetoric, framing something forced as a choice to blame the victim.
In Singapore the government owns most of the housing.
>>545258415>I would like to live in a house you own>Excellent, there is a mortgage on it so you'll need to cover that...>Well I guess I could manage to pay the mortgage you had lay down a significant amount of money for...>Also if you're going to be living there a while stuff will probably get broken, depreciate, there's a small chance you'll be run a meth lab/ganja farm in there, I'll probably need to tie that into the cost, insurance and tax too>Well I guess that's understandable >I mean, also, since I laid out really significant costs securing a mortgage for the property, and you're not related to me, an I could easily let my child/cousin/other family member live there, it's only right I receive a relatively nominal amount of profit compared to the risk and outlay>Huurrr I'm a commie shit skinned retard and rent is theftLive in a tent then cunt
>>54528440665% of American adults own a house, retard. This rate has remained largely unchanged for 120 years when if was FAR Far fucking lower. You're just the dumb ass 35% that can't keep their shit together long enough to make something happen.
>>545284453>Houses are built because people buy them.You understand people can build things just to *sell* them, right? This is how almost all commodities work. You're pretending not to understand this.Also, most people built their own houses for most of human history. With modern tools and availability of information this is easier than ever, but boomers have put laws in place to prohibit it, like permits and license requirements.>Not really. The land only accounts for about one fifth of the value of the property, even if it went down to zero most people (who rent) would still not be able to afford the construction. Again, just caused by boomer laws. Boomers could build their own houses without a problem.>Either option is basically communism and people would revolt.No, communism is when the state owns the properties and everybody has to rent. Technically, taking their properties and actually letting people OWN them is distributism, which is actually *maximizing* the number of people who own private property. A tiny number of landlords would complain; this policy would be overwhelmingly popular. Even traditionalists like Chesterton were in favor of this.
>>545284431No I didn’t. You can literally google it. Individual owner occupants own like 65% of homes. Non-PE corporate ownership (LLCs which are mostly just mom and pop operations) own like 9%, institutional and mega investors own an estimated 2-3% and the rest are individuals who own between 1-9. You’re literally a retarded faggot and need to KYS asap.
>>545284680No, most people built dwellings they didn't own on a landlords property that they worked for literally nothing but protection and community. Illiterate and dead by 35.
>>545282775*he can spare
>>545284406> Because I refuted it alreadyKek no you didn’t. > Farmhands often have on-site housing because it's physically necessary to work at that location. It's a tiny edge case.>it’s all true in my mindLmfao. You’re a failure
>>545284874They were still able to build the homes though. If you can actually own land, so much the better. You think it makes sense that an illiterate peasant could build their own home but a literate, educated American with access to the internet and a dozen hardware stores can't? This just proves how insane our laws are. And how artificial the problem is.
>>545258415Get a job hippie
>>545284680>You understand people can build things just to *sell* them, right? Wtf are you talking about? Yes, obviously, that's what constructiin companies are. They wouldn't exist if there were no real estate investors, that's the point. >people can build their own housesGreat, now you can live in a slum surrounded by filthy people just like you. Yeah, nigger, before you had to build 20-story buildings just to fit enough people in a city it'd be fine to just give everyone a plot of land and let them figure it out. Now you need specialized workers who require proper compensation to build the faggy apartment complex you live in. >inb4 just live in the middle of nowhere lmaoYeah, so your solution is having people commute 6 hours a day to get to their jobs? Genius. >A tiny number of landlords would complainThe fact you really believe seizing half or more of the networth of millions of people would have no repercussion just proves you're mentally still a child.
>>545284377GOTTEM
>>545284466>its getting worseYour situation sucks because it has you as the manager. Stop projecting. Everytime you feel "anxiety" just know it's your brain telling you to stop being a fuck up.
>>545284975>Wtf are you talking about? Yes, obviously, that's what constructiin companies are. They wouldn't exist if there were no real estate investors, that's the point.They would just sell them to the homeowners. If you really can't see this is plausible, it just shows that prices have been elevated so much that you can't even fathom someone besides a rich landlord buying one.
>>545284450I’ve never once seen one of these >“rent is le bad! >Give us your stuff!” threads where these smoothbrain commie antifa niggers didn’t get absolutely BTFO. Just like ITT
>>545284957Nigger, they were also pissing and shitting in their water supply.No, I dont think you can build a house on any land because you can't even logic yourself away from contradicting yourself in a medium that allows for as much as necessary to think before you hit "post". Sure, you could cobble together a hut somewhere but what would be the environmental effect for everyone down stream and unwind of you? Thats why we have laws.
>>545285078Leftists all champion mass migration and when they read that it causes housing prices to go vertical because it's an inelastic supply they just shout "fascist". Fuck democracy; I'd rather have rich assholes rule me than literal baboons running on basest animal drives.
>>545258415Female muppets were a mistake
>>545285058A house is more than the concrete and timber, dingus. Where does the water come from and go to? Electricity? Internet? Whats the impact on the surrounding land that surely someone has an interest in? This is why companies build in bulk. To offset the enormous utility-building cost over dozens or hundreds of people rather than a single buyer having to bear the cost of, for example, running 2 miles of broadband or electric or water or gas or etc.
>>545285058>They would just sell them to the homeownersCurrent renters would still not be able to buy them. If they can't get a mortgage on a home now, they wouldn't be able to get a mortgage on a home if it were 10% cheaper. So yeah, there would be a fraction of the demand and most of those companies wouldn't be economically viable. Anyway, that's very tangential to the point, the idea is that housing prices wouldn't plummet to zero just because renting is illegal, construction costs would still be high and renters wouldn't be able to afford them. Your counterpoint is that we should all live in a big favela, apparently.
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>>545284180Nah its the original capitalism- that drew a sharp distinction between productive labour (pie growing) and extractive labour (moving pie slices around). The free market was for productive enterprise, there wasnt supposed to be a market at all for extractive enterprise. They were a low surplus society so people starved when populations became taken to stealing from each other as a way of recourse
>>545258933Then as a landlord that can't afford his mortgage you should kill yourself. You aren't entitled to someone paying your mortgage.
>>545284680>No, communism is when the state owns the properties and everybody has to rent.Btw, read the Soviet Union Civil Code sometime. You're obviously very uneducated on the topic. Private property still exists in communism or socialism, it's the means of production that are owned by the collective.
>>545284871>35%really avoiding your >less than halfclaim huh? your jargon doesn't hide the fact that corpos own over a third of all homes and that you're a disingenuous kike
>>545258415No one is stopping you from building a house and renting it out.
>>545284991>he didn’t denounce the talmud or torah Oopsie daisy
>>545280309I had anxiety working for less than I was worth and being told to jump through retarded hoops by psychopaths for a dogshit wage. Got multiple doctors to tell them to eat shit and now I have a much better job paying much more without retarded hoops. Anxiety can be caused by abuse and abusers deserve to be shot.
>>545285651Youre taking this quote out of context significantly. Landlord in england meant a literal lord that owned all the lands in a county that was betrothed to the king. Sure, you could make some corollaries between the mortgage, taxes, etc but serfdom was the predominant mode in 1800s europe which is WHY American became populated.
>>545284180controlling the housing market is not jewish?
>>545285778I have an LLC that my property i currently live on is handled through. Oh nos!! Im not retard and sell hay to offset my property taxes! Gasp. Im a big fat meanie corpo making you incapable of unfucking yourself!And in the event I die snowboarding or something my wife or mom or brother can't sell everything leaving our kids high and dry because it's also in a......TRUST!! Big scary words.
>>545284287the problem is that you're also declaring war to the banks
>>545285854jews will denounce the torrah and talmud then transfer their sin to a chicken and sacrifice it
>>545283947Lol this meme BTFOs every whiny rentoid’s argument, everytime.
>>545258415pay your rent on time poor dago
>>545286579No shit retard. Did you notice how he wouldn’t denounce either though? You’re a bright one eh?
>>545258415Can't afford rent, get a roommate or a better paying job.Op is no longer satisfied by just sucking dicks.
>>545287025What would it prove though if he could just be a jew with a chicken? Think about it for a minute.
>>545287025Im imagining you have some awful genetic disfigument based on this retarded post. This is a kind of stupid you can't help.
>>545258415Well Gee Wiz Elmo let me tell you about landlords.
