Will christian nationalism ever work?
No, Christians themselves won't let it happen.
>>545184842why do you think israel allows the dome of the rock to be a mosque?christ is king.he allows his country to be as he decides.
>>545184842No.
>will this contradictory thing workyou can have either christianity or a white nation
>>545185007>that pictureGrim
>>545184890>>545184929I had my doubts but everyday that passes you're more likely right
>>545184842we've already had this experiment 2000 years ongoing, the results are in, you're living in it
>>545184842>We should go back to stage 1 cancer guys
>>545184890Modern liberalism has practically nothing to fear from almost all modern Christianity. inb4 but actually my sect, no prod/cath/orthonog not really. You can just stop now. We have oh, the entire world and the past ~126 years to prove it.The West is a miserable hole of permissive, self-righteous, performative degeneracy that worships personal liberty as their god, and mammon as their idol, and in most ways fascists and marxists were better than liberal democracy at establishing hard moral baselines for day to day social behavior and individual expectations.>but but butNope, don't care. Christians in liberal democratic states have not proven to be reliable sources of controlling and keeping moral standards. The arbiters of what doth morality, can't seem to force the masses into moral. They'd rather blame the devil, or sit with their feet kicked up and snatch the occasional rock bottom degenerate up as a convert for tithe monies, or claim that since things degenerate it's proof their right and Jesus will so return to set things right for them.But they're never going to put a faggot into a pair of wooden stocks. They're never going to lock a troon into a box away from the kiddos. They're not going to stop feminism. Kek they won't even wipe out Islamic heathen invaders, and these fuckers literally meet up once every week together. They're just people obsessed with vibes.Christianity is like a dried up trembling old man on a crutch that is long over the hill, and wants to be a really nice old man so he I guess doctrine says he'll get extra goodie points in heaven or something I suppose if he behaves extra pleasantly for the rest of his days.But civilizations aren't built, upon smiles, candies, mild acts of charity, sweet hearts and asking how your day is going honey.Nigger orcs are taking over, and they're going to take all your candy and grins with that Western freedom, too.
>>545185671So what’s your solution if it doesn’t involve political activism and ushering in some fake new global religion?
>>545185418I never thought about it that way. Good point
>>545185671>Christians in liberal democratic states have not proven to be reliable sources of controlling and keeping moral standards.This further makes my point. Christians are so divided amongst themselves that they'll never come together long enough and honest enough to make NatSoc work
>>545185831Who said anything about not involving political activism? What makes you assume that implication?
>>545184842evangelism seems to work as you shlomos keep pushing it down latin america to convert more people into golems for the pedo regime
>>545186146done him
>>545184842Christians killed jews for nearly 2000 years >inb4 hurrrr durrrrr here is less than 10 Christians that didn't Weak numbers, faggotThe only reason why Christians actually started liking jews in in the 1830s when The Holy See (((borrowed))) money from the (((Rothschild)))). It is no coincidence that Evangelicalism became popular in the 1830s as well
>>545185366>catholics gatekeeping their desert religion, again. further eroding their influence on the global stageholy shit, you people are stupid.
>>545186630shieet what dis mean cuhh idgi
>>545186559Are Christians, such as evangelicals, killing jews in America?
>>545186559>>545187362>the so called "based christians" in the meantime
>>545186199and your point being?
>>545184842No it's a gay evangelical fantasy. Liberty or death nigger.
>Will christian nationalism ever work?Oh it "works" just not in favor of most of the human population.
>>545184842in the USA its possible because we lack large groups of non Christian. we have only recently began getting more indian and muslims
>>545188092white people are the true jews>Lamentations 4:7Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:
>>545184842 top-down it could have under the Trump regime, but you have to first dismantle the existing scaffolding of jewish boomer neoliberalism that pervades the culture through a cataclysmic cultural event like America’s executive branch cutting ties (at least publicly) with Israel then revealing the role of Israelis in many western government.
Nope Nationalism is idolatry I personally do not want protestants in power
>>545184842No, Christianity is designed around ethnoi, which is why it has autocephalous patriarchates based around specific languages and ethnic groups.Catholics and Prots are globalist shabbos goy and thus did away with this, but if you're referring to traditional Christianity, the concept of specific kingdoms/nations delineated by ethnicity is core to it (hence why Europe developed into ethnic based kingdoms who were "Roman Caesars in their own land/among their own people" after Rome adopted Christianity as the state religion). There is no Christian concept of nation states as a universalist mish mash without distinct people groups (see Tower of Babel for how God views this)
>>545188140Why don't you show the next verse?>8 Now their visage is blacker than coal; they are not known in the streets; their skin cleaveth to their bones, it is withered, it has become like a stick.Lmao
>>545188266yeah this is what happens when white people stop being Christian
>>545188348Lol, what a tremendous cope hahaha. Tsani, you are dumb as shit
>>545188140>white people are the true jewsSpoken like a Jew who desperately wants to be seen and validated as 'white'. Very Christian coded actually>>545188348>yeah this is what happens when white people stop being ChristianWhat happens is space gets freed up in your soul for critical-thinking to occupy it instead of Jewish mythology.
>>545188395white people dominated the world when they were Christian, but now that everyone is secular, muslim migrants and niggers are gonna replace the population and they will mix with white people. turning them blacker than coalthe only solution is to become Christian again
>>545188447seeing as nigeria is over 85% christian, how come nigerians haven't dominated the world? How come they haven't accomplished even a tenth of Western civilization despite being majority christian?
>>545186559Yeah? Well if they're not willing to go back to that, it makes them effectively useless, and actually a source of degeneracy even.
>>545188447>muslim migrants and niggers are gonna replace the population>the only solution is to become Christian againClearly not You also know that race has nothing to do with salvation. You don't seem to understand that your bogus claims are easily debunked in this day and age.
>>545188433the Romans were not white, they are not compatible with Christianity >>545188512because only the isrealites(white people) can be Christian. we are God's chosen people. A nigger can try to be a Christian, but God hates him.>Romans 9:13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.>>545188556>new york post>(((christian))) groups
>>545184842Many Christians themselves don't even know what that term is, much less believe in it. Besides, Christian nationalism is actually an oxymoron; it is ultimately a globalist leftist religion that wants to convert everyone and says you must do absurd things like a cuck. Here's a perfect example:>38 “You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'>39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.>40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.>41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.>42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."—Matthew 5:38-42 New International Version (NIV)Why would a Christian be a nationalist when it preaches things like this?
>>545188666>because only the isrealites(white people) can be Christian. we are God's chosen people. A nigger can try to be a Christian, but God hates him.Again,>>545188556>You also know that race has nothing to do with salvation. You don't seem to understand that your bogus claims are easily debunked in this day and age>>545188666>>new york post>>(((christian))) groupsNotice how fhese clowns can't refute it with merit. They resort to red herrings and well poisoning.
>>545188666>because only the isrealites(white people) can be Christianlmaoo /pol/ christcucks are schizo niggers. You lot would be shunned if you've ever uttered this non sense in any church or to any christcuck pastor in the real life. Keep the larp going chrigger (YWNBWhite)
>>545188735>Why would a Christian be a nationalist when it preaches things like this?You (a lay person) are not meant to read into or interpret the Bible for yourself to any serious degree because it is one of the most complex and intricate literary works ever created and the average person struggles with discerning themes even in much simpler novels. Specific people were given explicit authority to have an overarching "last say" on what Scripture and Christian theology actually says. This was the Pentarchy when it became the Roman state religion. If you want to see how the formal institution that actually sanctioned the Bible we know today understood it and applied it you should look to see how they governed at the time, notably>symphonia, ie Roman emperor system balanced by the Church patriarchs in a dictatorship/monarchy and theocracy hybrid political system>bans on usury>distinct patriarchate organizations based around ethnoi (people group and language) and discrimination against non Christian ethnoi (ie jews, muslims) in terms of what political and economic authority they were permitted to hold>concept of just war that balanced moral virtue with the need to uphold a martial state that could defend itself and imperial interests>extreme dedication and investment in works of art and cultural achievements as signifiers of God's grace and beauty on Earth
>>545188778>race has nothing to do with salvationon the contrary, its all about the race.>>545188848>ou lot would be shunned if you've ever uttered this non sense in any church these churches have strayed away from the faith of the israelites, which is why the west is collapsing. It has a lot to do with American Zionism and the fact that they destroyed the Catholic and Orthodox Churches during the 20th century The bible speaks about this all the time, when the elders of religion become corrupt and God needs to destroy that nation.The only solution is to become a Christian which will save your seed, so that it can inherit the promise of Abraham
>>545184842>true antisemitism
>>545184842America is currently led by Christian Nationalists on both sides desu. It somewhat works until it doesn't. But that's pretty much everything. The problems are not really related to 'what people believe', they are more-so due to 'what people are.'
>>545188969>UHHH ACTSHUALLY /POL/ VERSION OF KEKSTIANITY IS DA TRUE KEKSTIANITY!! WE WUZ DA REAL JEWS N SHIEETkys schizo turk rapebaby
Christcucks are responsible for flooding heaven with niggers
>>545188969>on the contrary, its all about the raceJesus disagrees. You have zero legitimate arguments
>>545184842No, nothing ever works for long, but that’s no reason to choose jewish curated paths.
>I am the chad and you are the basedjakAnyone still making these memes are either 40 years old or glowies
>>545188969>The bible speaks about this all the time, when the elders of religion become corrupt and God needs to destroy that nation.Lol>13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves
>>545188941sounds like cope from a bad writeropen to interpretation=unfinishedif there was ever a point to that philosowank themed fantasy fiction why was it not written down in place of the fairytales eh?if there is a correct interpretation, why isn't that the book rather than the awkward compilation presented?>why would a christian....brain damage, same with political groups, same with 'great leaders', same with 'the cause'faith is mental sickness
>>545189033>its bad when Christianity promotes white nationalismi wonder who could be behind this post>>545189091>Romans 13:1okay? when did i rebel against any authority? i recognize that God wants to destroy these nations, which is why he puts degenerates as leaders.
indian thread, btwthey make these threads because the sting of being conquered by both muslims and christians stings them deeply every single day
>>545189171>open to interpretation=unfinishedIt's not open to interpretation. That's the point. Christianity was never open to interpretation until the Reformation introduced the concept. For the first 1500 years of its history it was universally, explicitly an institution that had the Bible as just one of its touchstones. It was always a hierarchical system with sanctioned authorities that spent their lives studying and debating and codifying what the religion was actually about and acting as the ultimate authority on theological matters. If you want to see how they actually viewed and governed things you can literally just study how the Roman Empire and its successor states functioned after it became the state religion.
>>545189187>when did i rebel against any authority? i>>545188969>these churches have strayed away>>545189187>which is why he puts degenerates as leaders.Get a load of this nonsensical contradiction.>God puts degeneracy in charge while also telling you if you rebel against them you rebel against God.This idiot is either contradicting himself and/or admitting his "God" is the cause of degeneracy
>>545189187>>its bad when Christianity promotes white nationalismIt isn't biblical
>>545189187>>its bad when Christianity promotes white nationalismmay wee see it? where? inb4 schizo nigger ramblings
>>545189279its probably too much for your non-white brain, but there is no contradiction at allthe people of a nation sin = God appoints leaders to destroy the nation = you are not meant to rebel against them, since they are a manifestation of God's wrath.the only thing you can do is to live a good Christian life so that you can avoid his judgement, then your children will inherit the future.
Give me a single instance today of christianity promoting white nationalism. I'll wait
>>545189335Unironically, the closest modern government to a traditional Christian state would be Russia, which is probably the most right-wing/white nationalist adjacent government that exists currently. Catholics, on account of doing away with concepts of ethnoi, are fundamentally globalist/unable to enforce traditional Christian political systems which involve the Church in a given state explicitly working for/with that specific state. The Nazis were actually pretty close to revitalizing this concept in the west with what they were doing, though in more of a roundabout way.
>>545189360>but there is no contradiction at allAh so you admit that your God is the cause of degeneracy then.>>545189360>the people of a nation sin = God appoints leaders to destroy the nation = you are not meant to rebel against themThe he outlined perfectly Tsani, you have zero legitimate arguments. >>545189295
>>545184842Both are a stupid waste of time
>>545189436>God is the cause of degeneracyi dont see how is that controversial at all, all evil is caused by God
>>545189431Russia is a decreipt shithole full of churkas and dirty muslims. Unironically more muzzies than the entirety of western and central europe
>>545189360>the people of a nation sin = God appoints leaders to destroy the nation = you are not meant to rebel against them, since they are a manifestation of God's wrath.Lmao>God creates sin and sinners>then sends degenerate leaders to Amp up the sinning sinners>You have to sit back and watch the degeneracy unfold and destroy everything because if you fight them then you interfere with God's degenerate plansWow real winner we got right here
>>545189436>Tsani, you have zero legitimate argumentsHe doesn't. He's your typical schizo /pol/ christcuck who's entire cuckstianity world view comes from templar crusade memes. Guaranteed he's never been to a church in 20 years. He is the depiction of picrel
>>545189496Evil is the privation of God/choosing one's own will rather than God's will. >>545189516>Unironically more muzzies than the entirety of western and central europeWell yes, they actually control what was originally Muslim territory. This kind of works against your point, seeing as the trend is going to reverse with Muslims taking over what was originally Christian territory in western Europe. Point being that Russia has aggressively moved to penalize homosexuality and gender delusion and is taking aggressive measures to force Russian women to have children and breed, which is a sign of a healthy martial society + one that is actively trying to reverse white population decline. Notably, they're also basically the only major European power diametrically opposed to Israeli interests, which is the core of modern anti-white politics, no?
>>545189496>i dont see how is that controversial at allMake sense cking from you
>>545189563110% btw, he's the same anon as pic rel known as Tsani. He like to play both sides of Christian degeneracy
>>545189372Still no answer for this question from the bulgarian shitskin christcuck. I accept your concession faggot schizo nigger.Cuckstianity is globohomo jew worship and has nothing and has never had anything to do with white nationalism.
>>545189372In modern times? Impossible.Christianity has become so focused on the sermon on the mount that it's a tool of Judaism now.Christianity, like our nations. Must be reclaimed from the jew.>WhyIt is the foundation of western civilization and promotes greatness.>I'm an atheist!!!No you're a Christian-thinking God-denier probably due to rabid homosexuality.
>>545189570Not necessarily, God creates evil directly without human interference, take for example the story of Job, he was tortured for no reason at all, since he didnt do anything wrong to begin with.>Amos 3:6“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?”>Isaiah 45:7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>545189570>Evil is the privation of God/choosing one's own will rather than God's will.Free will is truly absent in a Christian world view
>>545189570>the only major European power diametrically opposed to Israeli intereststhat's funny because their entire ruling class is composed of chabad orthodox jews the same ones that are puppeteering the white house>Russia agressively penalizes homosexualitybut the 10s of millions of muzzies are okay? Is that your ideal utopic idea of christian nationalist country? Retarded faggot
"Antisemitism" was literally coined to differentiate a racial critique of jews from one of their religion.
>>545189658The Jewish god is not the same as the Christian God.
>>545189658>Job, he was tortured for no reason at all,There was a reason. To satisfy God's ego. Whuch doesn't make sense anyway if he is omniscient and Satan knows that.
>>545189670How so?
>>545188242Imagine being so cucked you view the post-roman balkanization of europe as virtuous
>>545184842Yes. Because the Biblical definition for Nation is basically a group of similarly cultured people. Ethnè is the root word for Ethnicity, but it also literally means "Nation" because the two at the time were mostly synonyms. The word "ethnonationalism" is a tautology like saying "PIN Number."A Christian Nationalist society is basically what America originally was. A collection of mostly Christians in close area. Nations in the Bible weren't defined by lines on a map so much as culture and genetics.
>>545189702If you’re christian you’re supposed to believe in one god, (a concept from judaism) you christian larpers need to do more research
>>545184842>Yet another anti-Christian thread by kike shills. >Why is it so important for kikes to attack Christianity? >Why do they want you to be anything but Christian? >Always do the opposite of what Jews tell you to do. These facts alone should drive you to become Christian.
>>545186559Lying kike
>>545189040if they behave as christians then what would your problem with them even be?
>>545189641>It is the foundation of western civilization and promotes greatnesslmaoo sure thing paco. Do you wetbacks ever get tired of spouting bs non sense like this? It's so funny seeing spics wanting to hijack and claim Western civilization built by Europeans for themselves just because they worship some dead brown jews from the middle east
>>545184842i just don't understand why people need their fucking little brown cope faith to split off from the accepted judeoworshipping cult of weakness to be antisemitic? why go through all this trouble to cling onto some abrahamic book written which says niggers are your brothers in christ? i get that americans have no real ethnic identity so they come up with hundreds of variants of faith to hang out together every sunday but c'mon can't you just hang out together by sharing common interests and hobbies while also finding other antisemites. why do you need sandnigger skydaddy for that?
>>545189680>dRumpf is A RUSSIAN>He should with tard juices flowing from his mouthVenezuela, Iran, Cuba?Who are they allied with? Why do they let gay niggers on the Internet?
>>545189773I grew up christian and we wouldn’t talk this way about the jewish people considering a it’s one half of our holy book. Christianity is a growth outnof Judaism. It’s how I know half of you people became “Christian” as an adult and are mostly larping for all the wrong reasons/
>>545189730You don't have free will if your will is ultimately to submit to the will of God. I have a feeling you're not going to understand this.
>>545189613You should really look into Orthodoxy and original Christian history in Roman times. I used to share your point of view because western Christianity did away with tenets of ethnoi and became globalist as a result, but Christianity is what originally introduced the concept of ethnically divided kingdoms and nationstates to Europe when it followed the Orthodox structure/patriarchate system.>>545189670Free will is what makes evil possible if that's your idea.>>545189658What is your sect/background? This is not the traditional Christian view. God is quite literally identical to "good". That's what the concept comes from, there is no distinction. Evil is the antonym/lack of God. What you're espousing would violate the law of identity (A is A, not B). >>545189731It is virtuous. Or are you a civic nationalist? I prefer ethnic groups having national sovereignty in their own lands. This is the core origin of white identity and racialism and the thesis statement of most right-wing political movements including national socialism, I struggle to see your contention with it.>>545189680>chabad orthodox jewsWon't pretend they don't have influence but I promise you the relationship is basically the complete inverse of how it is in the US. If you don't believe that you'll have to explain how Russia is enabled to be basically the only world power actively working against Israeli interests.>10s of millions of muzzies are okayNo, but they are there because they were conquered by Russia. I'd prefer a nationalist Europe that took power in the middle east as well and kept those people in their original lands as subjects, your view is reductive.
>>545188941>oy vey dont do your own research goy>you need (((us))) to interpret this extremely complicated text that tells you to be a good goy and give immigrants all your money>their skin might look like poop and coal, but at least they are (((christian))), right goy?
>>545189809Believe it or not it’s because they believe it’s true? The fuck retard why else would someone practice a faith.
>>545186559
>>545189856>Free will is what makes evil possible if that's your ideaThis is what I mean. It's labeled evil if you use your will freely
>>545189766OK and how did you lose your way so hard following my point?
>>545186559Fag
>>545185007Just because Congress isn't controlled by Republicans doesn't mean ICE won't stop beating Mexicans. I think they overestimate their chances.
>>545189884>>you need (((us))) to interpret this extremely complicated text that tells you to be a good goy and give immigrants all your moneyOf course, the problem with this is that Christian Rome never actually did this, so I struggle to see what your point is. In fact, this attitude is really only prevalent in explicitly secular/non Christian societies. >>545189891Correct. The point is you have a choice to follow God's will or not. It is the necessary element required for truly conscious/ensouled beings like humans to be able to exist. If you choose not to follow it you choose evil (ie the opposite of God).
>>545189854I understand ( I think) but you're free to do what you want. And the rules are pretty fucking easy.
>>545189824>>dRumpf is A RUSSIANdisingenuous christkike running cover for chabad kikes. I accept your concession tho As soon as you challenge christcucks they show their true colors. Imagine believing russia, a country which leadership is comprised of chabadnik kikes, is against israeli interests...
>>545189891> I need to kill people> Stupid God
>>545189944So there really isn't a choice but an ultimatum. Bend the knee or perish >>545189948>but you're free to do what you want.See above
>>545189856>You should really look into Orthodoxy and original Christian history in Roman times. I used to share your point of view because western Christianity did away with tenets of ethnoi and became globalist as a result, but Christianity is what originally introduced the concept of ethnically divided kingdoms and nationstates to Europe when it followed the Orthodox structure/patriarchate system.One single instance of modern christianity promoting white nationalism. You're still not answering my question (you can't because it doesn't exist)
>>545188092Born to Jews, rejected Jews. It's like you haven't even read the Bible, how Jesus called the Pharisees scheming money grubbing kikes and so they used lawfare to get the Romans to execute him so their hands would be clean.
>>545189989Seems like your trying for a strawman. Try again
>>545189966Meme flag niggers get no more responses. No one listens to me flags anyway. And you wrote all that?Lol what a faggot
>>545190027Then what freedom are you missing out on?
>>545189991It's not an ultimatum so much as an education on reality. A choice that has a better and worse outcome depending on what you choose does not then cease to be a choice.
>>545190012Was a jew, his followers were jews, the mother of god was a jew. You can’t just reject this because happy merchant memes are funny and you want to hate people. Jesus doesn’t ultimately have a message of hate for jews but of redemption in him.
>>545190001Define white nationalism for me. My own definition would promoting national/ethnic sovereignty in white countries, promoting white birth rates, and opposing globalist/jewish interests which seek to undermine these things. Do you not agree with these?
>>545190033I accept your concession. But go on and tell me how russia is le based trad christian utopia...
>>545190069This is the mind of a zealot. >How dare you desire a life outside my dogma >>545190073>. A choice that has a better and worse outcome depending on what you choose does not then cease to be a choice.And in your case, it doesn't cease to be an ultimatum.
>>545190012You just proved the meme right
>>545190101And rejected jews beating them for being evil slime. Didn't you know?
>>545190132I agree but go on tell a single instance of christianity promoting that today? They're quite literally preaching the opposite.Proof : go outside to any church or charitable organization run by christians and see for yourself. You'd get called a nazi and a racist the minute you utter even 10% of what we say here. Just quit larping nigger, the jewish brown religion that preaches "we're all one and we all bleed red" meme isn't nationalistic or White empowering
>>545190227>And rejected jewsWhich jews anon?
>>545184842fuck your faggot game rabi schlibel
>>545190166>And in your case, it doesn't cease to be an ultimatum.I suppose. I'd argue a "choice" with no meaningful difference in outcome actually classifies as less of a choice and undermines the entire idea of what freedom of choice is. Of course, there is not all bad to choosing your own will rather than God's; you get a lot of temporary pleasure, it's moreso whether you think pleasure now is worth long term suffering. It's no different than people who choose to partake in drugs or other hedonistic pursuits. Your perspective would reduce anything with a negative long term outcome vs short term pleasure as being an "ultimatum" with only one obvious answer, yet all humans as part of our nature inevitably still choose to varying degrees to do the apparent "lesser" answer. That's our struggle and our condition. Of course, the entire point of Christ is that we are not locked into these decisions permanently and can right our path. In this sense, God does allow people to follow their own will all the time, its more about whether people strive to change this and mean it rather than if they are always successful.
>>545190133It's not. It's an HIV infested shithole filled with slavs. Next projecting nigger talking point that I can ignore because you are wearing a meme flag .
>>545190227Yeah by the standard of the literal son of god they were bad, goyim were like marauding savage rapists at the time
>>545190301>what freedom of choice is.You don't have that. You have exactly 2 choices. Which means you're as free as a prisoner in his cell. >In this sense, God does allow people to follow their own will all the time,This isn't really true either as the bible is filled with stories of God intervening in the will of people.
>>545190233As I said, look at what the traditional Christian Church structure and nations espouse. You can dislike Russia for having been traumatized by a bolshevik kike revolution and having conquered Muslim land, but the fact is they are arguably one of the most Christian nations in the sense of the Church and state working hand in hand together and they also are the most aggressive today in terms of promoting white birth rates and opposing Israeli influence and their western puppets by extension. Scandinava by contrast is majority non-Christian and is arguably the center of the most cucked nations on Earth, doing all the things you espouse and hate against even though they should hypothetically be based non-Christian white people.
>>545190233>>545190133if anyone you faggots are done with these memeflag niggers can i gat a hell yeah?
>>545190166>This is the mind of a zealot.>How dare you desire a life outside my dogmaWhat do you need that you don't have access to? Lies, murder, and other actions that harm others and society? I'm wondering what I'm the fuck you want.>I want to be a faggot!OK and thank if waking around with ass juices all over you before modern hygiene. Hell even with modern medicine most fags will die in their early 50s.Therefore the bible is just trying to protect you and others from fags spreading feces born diseases. Pretty good advice desu.
>>545190389>You don't have that. You have exactly 2 choices. Which means you're as free as a prisoner in his cell.? What are these two choices in your mind? You can act morally but have the ability to choose from a variety of things in life. You seem to think that being told you will suffer for engaging in evil means that you only have two choices in life but I don't understand this perspective. You can choose to do literally anything you want that isn't evil. >This isn't really true either as the bible is filled with stories of God intervening in the will of people.Since the resurrection of Christ, God does not intervene until judgment day. You are correct that there was a change with Divine Revelation in how this works though. The Bible is explicitly a historical compendium of the extremely rare/unique times God played a role in human history, explicitly for the purpose of leading up to Christ. However, God never forces anyone to do anything in the Bible from a personal choice perspective. Everyone's decisions are their own, even if he directly intervenes with threat of consequence, that once again does not take away what your choice is, only elucidates what your choice is actually about.
>>545190464Yeah. I informed the meme flag nigger that no one listens to meme flags
>>545190436So russia is your example of based christian nationalism? LMAOOO just take the L nigger, you lost the minute you brought up russia as your utopia of your idea of based nationalist christianity
>>545190470>Lies, murder, and other actions that harm others and societyYou think if I don't follow your dogma then my only option or choice is to lie, murder and harm society?>>545190470>>I want to be a faggotI don't nor am I.
>>545190534>What are these two choices in your mind?We've already been through this with the ultimatum part. >>545190534>>This isn't really true either as the bible is filled with stories of God intervening in the will of people.>Since the resurrection of Christ, God does not intervene until judgment day.Thanks for proving my point.
>>545190547>So russia is your example of based christian nationalism?It is. I don't believe utopia is possible on Earth, that's antithetical to my entire philosophy, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. I elucidated my criteria for what white nationalist policy would include and explained how Russia is basically the only one engaging in that. I don't see what else I can contribute here. Do you have an example of any non-Christian country engaging in white nationalism? (ie could be majority irreligious/secular government)
>BROO RUSSIA IS SO HECKIN BASED LOOK ITS SO CHRISTIAN AND REDPILLED ON JEWS AND SHIEET!! AND DONT MIND THE THOUSANDS OF MOSQUES AND THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF MOSLEMSall mutt flags are brown spics
>>545190590>We've already been through this with the ultimatum part. I've already explained that it's impossible to have an actual choice without a difference in outcome. Care to explain how free will is possible if there is no actual purpose or meaning or difference in outcome behind said choice? Or do you dispute free will entirely as a concept?>Thanks for proving my point.What's your point? God intervenes externally, he never takes away someone's ability to make a choice in their head.
>>545190551Then what are you protesting in particular? Just the fact that if you don't listen to the basic rules, then you are scum?You're free to be scum if you want to.
>>545190620Is this supposed to be a response to my post here? >>545190604I don't really see the relevance re: Do you have an example of any non-Christian country engaging in white nationalism? (ie could be majority irreligious/secular government)
>>545190657Oh we're talking about predetermined destiny now?Is that correct?
>BROOO RUSSIA IS SO FREAKING BASED AND CHRIST PILLED BUT I WOULD NEVER EVER MOVE THERE no more (you)s for you christkike.
>>545190736I'm not sure what he's getting at. He seems to be implying the fact that going against the will of God results in an ultimately worse outcome, and thus it isn't a real choice, but I fail to see how you could have any meaningful choices without an explicit "better" or "worse" result distinguishing them. And as I also explained, there is a trade off of the short term pleasure of following one's self will. I'm not sure if he entirely disagrees with the idea of free will even existing or if he thinks it does exist, somehow, but that Christianity makes it impossible, in which case I'm not sure what alternative explanation he's proposing.
No, too many Christians are soft on the enemy.
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>>545190657>I've already explained that it's impossible to have an actual choice without a difference in outcomeAnd an ultimatum sets that up nicely. Bend the knee or perish.>Or do you dispute free will entirely as a concept?We operate off cause and effect. >>545190657>What's your point?Your free will is an illusion behind the will of your God
>>545190660Answer this >>545190551>You think if I don't follow your dogma then my only option or choice is to lie, murder and harm society?Yes or no?
>>545190777Checked!I provided an example of a modern Christian country engaging in White nationalist policy, not even getting into the historical precedent of Christian societies basically founding race science as a concept.Do you have an example of any non-Christian country engaging in white nationalism? (ie could be majority irreligious/secular government)
>still can't answer a simple question about a simple instance of based christian nationalist countryBest they can come up with is HIV riddled decrepit russia with a billion muslim and highest rates of prositution... Pathetic
>>545190798Seems to just be an athetard desu.Looking at the Bible as a secular guide to Western culture, if you do not follow the basics of "God's will" then you're simply an asshole.Looking at predetermined fate. That's easily possible by a minimal understanding of quantum theory.
>>545190859is Russia really the best example you can offer of a Christian white nationalism though, anon? I mean this genuinely. That's not really that impressive fren.
>>545190859Russia is officially a secular state and a multi-ethnic, multi-religious federationLol
>>545190856That's the basics. You are aware of the ten commandments? If you remove a couple specific to the religious aspect you are submit an asshole if you don't follow them Additionally God allows mistakes and allows you to learn from them. Is this really so hard to grasp?I'd need to know what your rebelling against to respond better.
>DUUDE RUSSIA IS SO HECKIN BASED AND CHRIST PILLED ITS BETTER THAN HEDONISTIC WESTERN DEGENERATE COUNTRIES christkikes can't get anymore pathetic than this
>>545190897>you do not follow the basics of "God's will" then you're simply an asshole.You say that while Christianity has iver 30k different divisions. The real answer is no, I don't need your specific interpretation dogma to be a good person.You already know this, that's why you can't answer my question >>545190551>You think if I don't follow your dogma then my only option or choice is to lie, murder and harm society?>>545190968Amd you still can't
>>545184842Christianity gave Europe its alphabet, its universities, and its names. You are typing your complaint in the Latin alphabet right now. Talk about a foreign import.when you grow out of your middle school Marvel phase, you'll understand why people don't name their kids after comic book characters and being racist towards moslems is based and redpilled.BEGONE MUDSLIM!CHRIST IS KING!DEUS VULT!
>>545190968>Additionally God allows mistakes and allows you to learn from them.For a limited time. >>545190968>I'd need to know what your rebelling against to respond better.That people can only be "good" if they follow your subjective interpretation of a certain dogma
>>545191002>The real answer is no, I don't need your specific interpretation dogma to be a good person.True but your idea of a good person is based on Christianity. That's what makes you a Christian-brained God-denier as opposed to a real athiest.bCheckmate fuckwit.
>>545191031So yeah, but are you ever going to do some of that "based" zealous pious stuff, that doesn't happen to involve fighting wars with the whole real hidden primary goal being to defend kikes tho?
>>545190918>>545190925they're not even trying at this point...According to christian nationalists, importing jeets, niggers and central asians is based as long as they're chrisitian or just of good character reallyThat's why anon still can't provide a single example of an actual christian nationalist country
>>545190839>we operate off cause and effectWhy? Where does this come from?>>545190856>>You think if I don't follow your dogma then my only option or choice is to lie, murder and harm society?Ah, I think you're confusing these things. The core of free will is that you can dismiss this and go about your life and not care. In fact you're doing it right now. Clearly you've made your choice and ignored the ultimatum and God has allowed you to do this in my worldview. You view free will as an illusion because you reject God and are able to do so which you then deduce to mean that my conception of free will is false, which doesn't logically connect. The fact that you are capable of dismissing this in my own paradigm just proves my point.What is your religious view/background by the way? Just curious. Do you think free will exists or are you a determinist?>>545190918In a modern sense, yes. If you look at Russia vs the modern west they are by far the most right wing/white nationalist approaching government that exists. To be clear, I think that's incredibly sad and is more an indictment of the west in general, but it is accurate. For historical precedent, as I stated, the concept of "White" and white nations didn't exist until Christian European nations, so that would be the obvious example.>>545190925This is true, Russia is an Empire, but it's trending significantly towards its pre-Bolshevik roots with the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian state operating hand in hand to promote the interests of ethnic Russians, which is the traditional mode of operation for Christianity which operated in patriarchates aligned with the state according to the local ethnic group/language.
>>545191069>>The real answer is no, I don't need your specific interpretation dogma to be a good person.>TrueGlad we agree>>545191069>but your idea of a good person is based on ChristianityNope. Simple shit like the.Golden Rule has been around a lot.longer
>>545191002Silence mudslim you are a brown commie turdworlder doing a takiya, I've seen your posts before browncel.This is a White Christian nation and Christ is KING!
>>545191056>That people can only be "good" if they follow your subjective interpretation of a certain dogmaGod and Jesus are pretty clear about what they want. And they want what amounts to a functioning western civilization.
>>545191079Templars killed jews, regardless the real enemy are browns. I have no quarrel with White jews.DEUS VULT!
>christianity gave europe its alphabet its univerisites>deus vultlmaoo I wonder why christianity didn't give that to nigerians and tanzanians and made them into leading first world countries
>>545191107>Nope. Simple shit like the.Golden Rule has been around a lot.longerAnd? Who popularized it?You're rebelling against [brand] you fucking retard.Atheism is secular Judaism.
>>545191104>>we operate off cause and effect>Why?Becaue we make choices >Where does this come from?The choices we make >>545191104>Clearly you've made your choice and ignored the ultimatum and God has allowed you to do this in my worldview.And in your world view its a limited time. >You view free will as an illusion because you reject Godnah, I just reject the illusion of your favorite flavor of God.
>>545191138You shouldn't waste your time talking to heathens. Instead you should kill them.DEUS VULT!
>>545191110I'm Whiter than you
>>545191138You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>545191265Non-Christians aren't White. You are a brown moslem doing a takiya from a turn world country.
>>545191207> I prefer being a jew without promise of heavenLol athetards are real tardsDidn't you know that atheism is now for idiots and agnostics are the new intellectual elite?
>>545191180>>Nope. Simple shit like the.Golden Rule has been around a lot.longer>And? Who popularized it?People. >getting pissy>doesn't understand atheism Kek
>>545191104>To be clear, I think that's incredibly sad and is more an indictment of the west in generalreasonable take go argue with these other anons on itI admit Russia's take on open provocative faggots, it anything, tends to be a more based take the rest of the West. If that is a consolation, take it. Put it on your trophy wall. It's just still meh to me.I actually consider the orthobros the least concern of Christians. But still what's that mean. Not much.>For historical precedent, as I stated, the concept of "White" and white nations didn't exist until Christian European nations, so that would be the obvious example.Well thanks I guess but uh, I'm still concerned about today anon. You want awards for yesteryear *shrug* okay kek. If I say no and call you a cuck or I say yeah man that's pretty cool... we're flooded by niggers and troons are trying to slip kids estrogen pills while the Church won't call to beat them to death because it's evil and mean soooo... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>545191318>Non-Christians aren't WhiteNice self own
>>545191165Those countries aren't leading first world countries because their people groups have lower intellectual function. That said, Christianity certainly unlocks the highest potential of any given people group. I would not want to be around a nigger at all, but I'd definitely prefer a devout Christian nigger to a muslim or voodoo totem nigger. Same with white people; non Christian whites tend to be the most insufferable people on Earth. Generally speaking, people groups have different levels of potential (obviously), but Christian variants of these are them at their best. This is pretty indisputable imo. >>545191207>Becaue we make choices This isn't an explanation for where the abstract logical rule of cause and effect comes from, if anything it describes a resulting product of cause and effect being an extant factor of reality. I'm asking you why/how you know that is the case.>The choices we make Cause and effect comes from the choices we make? That doesn't really make sense. You have it reversed; cause and effect allows us to make choices that have an effect, us making choices does not create the abstract rule of a cause leading to an effect, that immediately collapses in terms of logic.>And in your world view its a limited time. That's correct. Yet you've still chosen to believe what you'd like because you're free to do so. Thus we have demonstrated there is no conflict here. >nah, I just reject the illusion of your favorite flavor of God.You reject God entirely then? You're an atheist I take it or do you have a "flavor" of God yourself? Atheism is kind of weak sauce these days unfortunately, you either trap yourself in the hole of "there is nothing but matter" which introduces all kinds of issues with how everything you believe is just an emergent illusion which is no more or less valid than my own or anyone else's emergent illusion and there is no actual truth which nukes your whole position, or you get into LARPagan cringiness.
>deus vultwhy do spics love to larp as crusaders? Lmaoo
>>545191329>has to resort to a strawman. I accept your concession
>>545191258True they can't be reasoned with.And most are commies and faggots who will kill you for their Jewish crafted secular religion.Fair is fair.
>>545184842>I reject every aspect of your religionEspecially the death penalty for faggots no doubt
>>545184842shitload of the stuff exodus talks about is symbolic coding of actual deep occult understanding that people who reached the same understandings would get regardless of how they reached it.problem is christianity so immediately throws that understanding out to cover up a shitload of dire supernatural threats with logic whose breadth and depth adds up to saying "nuh uh" and then immediately releasing every gods damned demon the old testament ever warned us about to reek havok.the singular most lethal problem humanity's facing is the singular absolute refusal to admit supernatural problems have been allowed to go completely unchecked and the religious authorities dealing with this shits been dumped on are altogether either useless or complicit in the face of a genuine existential threat.thing the easts priests run into as a problem frequently is that certain foods like garlic tend to take on an aphrodisiac effect in monks for some reason problem is they just cut that stuff out rather than even beginning to question why it was happening even right neck deep with teachings that tell them explicitly that the circulation of these energies is HOW WE FUCKING THINK.thing the east let rot out of their teachings is that yin yang circulation has gunk that needs to be cleaned out to advance and rather than the comfy tale most priests tell of only religious types needing to deal with this shit all this stuff needs is a certain yang threshold reached to start leeching out and causing trouble this stuff competes with yang for space in the tubes and unlike yang whose circulation creates more yang and keeps stuff working in general this garbage can only take space until a system that can deal with it is available.problem is we let even remembering this stuff as a species go to pot because its fucking sad and however it actually works industrialization made it worse AND IS CHOKING OUT OUR ABILITY TO THINK AS A SPECIES IN THE MOST LITERAL TERMS POSSIBLE.
>>545184842NoAs long murder of both scumbags and subhumans is not allowed, no nation can function
>>545191149I don't understand why you use history as an example for current times when that's obviously not going to happen now, especially in America. The days of warrior Christians are gone, that much is obvious, but they could come back if there were to be a great awakening and a recognition of the armies of Typhon. I don't think a lot of modern Christians are going to like it though.
>>545191337It's literally secular Judaism. You believe everything Jews do. Where does the average atheist deviate from judaism?There is no path to heaven for the secular jew. He's not even trying to compete yet he follows the talmud (unknowingly). Interesting stuff.
>>545191363whites built the greatest civilization this world has ever seen based on core Greek ideas on science, philosophy and government. A brown dead judean nigger from galilee has nothing to do with that.
>>545191104Slavs aren't White. I'll let you in on where it really comes from: British Israelism. Sarmatians vs Scythians. The Sarmatians pushed the Scythians West and became the ancestors of the slavs.
>>545191363>This isn't an explanation for where the abstract logical rule of cause and effect comes fromcomes from a mix of empirical observation, human cognitive wiring, and philosophical frameworking. Which choice making plays a key role in..>>545191363>Cause and effect comes from the choices we make?Yes, cause and effect in human life heavily stems from the choices we make, though it is not the only driver of events in the universe>>545191363>Yet you've still chosen to believe what you'd like because you're free to do so. Thus we haveOK, then I also use my free will to freely avoid heaven and hell and do my own afterlife thing >>545191363>>nah, I just reject the illusion of your favorite flavor of God.>You reject God entirely then?Just your personal feelings and opinions about it.
>>545191366There is no strawman. Do you know what that term means?
>>545188116Roman emperors were notoriously faggots unable to be able to have proper children, and most of them were atrocious .
Real christianity burns you and your entire family if you misbehave. OG christianity razed cities for wrongdoers.
>>545191475>It's literally secular Judaism.No.dummy, it isn't. I still go to church with family during Christmas and other holidays. If anything I'm a secular Christian in that sense
>>545191530There was. You made up an argument that I didn't and fought that.
>>545191445You're more likely talking to a mexcrement larping as a Western European templar. The pest that are currently invading your country usually love to larp as them.It's their way of trying to appropriate and hijack Western civilization built by White men
>>545191552Based kike killers
>>545186559>Uhh we actually hate jews even though we worship one and use their history as the basis of our religion.How retarded are you.
>>545191563Then you aren't an arthiest like I'm used to. And I respect and agree with your opinion on dogma.Notice, I haven't been arguing dogma at all.
>>545191671>Then you aren't an arthiest like I'm used to.It's because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is just
>>545191495Christianity is generally considered the ultimate culmination of Greek ideas of science/philosophy/government, hence the whole Plato being upheld as a virtuous scholar and Christian Byzantium extensively studying and upholding their cultural heritage from pre Christian days. I'm sure you would know better than the literal Hellenic Roman Empire that adopted Christianity as the state religion from its capital in the Aegean about whether Christianity reflects Greek ideals though.>>545191502>comes from a mix of empirical observation, human cognitive wiring, and philosophical frameworking.To back up a bit, do you recognize an external world outside your individual perception which operates the same for everyone ie an objective reality? If so I'd assume you'd agree that obviously it fundamentally operates by principles such as cause and effect regardless of human perception, in which case I fail to see how "empirical observation, human cognitive wiring, and philosophical frameworking", which are all aspects of individual conscious perception, serve as the source of cause and effect in a universe which existed prior to us.>Yes, cause and effect in human life heavily stems from the choices we make, though it is not the only driver of events in the universeSo you're saying cause and effect is the result of humans making choices? If humans didn't make choices would causality in physical reality just break then? Again not really seeing how this makes any sense unless you believe you're in fake illusion world right now and everything is just in your mind.>OK, then I also use my free will to freely avoid heaven and hell and do my own afterlife thing So free will must mean YOU are God or bust?>Just your personal feelings and opinions about it.Well let's elaborate on yours; Ghost of Mesa the namefag on /pol/ has come to the ultimate truth of God. Let's hear it so we may be converted to the light (unironically though would be interested in hearing it).
>>545191629Did Jesus like what the jews were doing?
>>545191693Not really. Most atheists hate their own people and are leftists (Jewish aligned).Those are the bulk of atheists.
>>545191731>Christianity is generally considered the ultimate culmination of Greek ideas of science/philosophy/governmentLMAOOOOO christkikes lie as their breathe. I am sure a brown jewish religion from modern day israel is the culmination of greek ideas on science, philosophy and government...>le roman empire christianity larpfunnily enough they've slowly started to decline as soon as they adapted it. Cohencidence? I think not
>>545191731>do you recognize an external world outside your individual perception which operates the same for everyone ie an objective reality?Such as?>>545191731>So you're saying cause and effect is the result of humans making choices? If humans didn't make choices would causality in physical reality just break then?You have very poor reading comprehension >>545191502>though it is not the only driver of events in the universe>>545191731>So free will must mean YOU are God or bust?No? Do I need your God in my will?>>545191731>Well let's elaborate on yoursNo need.
>>545191839No one reads meme flag posts. Nice wall of ( likely seething) text though, nigger
>>545191552>>545191620Then bring it back. As I post, Christianity is like an old dying man in hospice waiting around to die. They don't do anything. People get frustrated by it and that is why people only react with a sneer and throw a "kike on a stick lul" back at you. The world does not need a movement that is basically a school marm doting over children, it needs something to smash nonsense with a maul but whatever you want to call modern Christianity, it ain't it anymore. It's done. Tree's dried up, there's no more fruit coming out.Why wouldn't people mock it.
>>545191817>Not really100%, hating your own race or being jewish have nothing to do with atheism
>>545188941>is one of the most complex and intricate literary works ever createdKek, americans....
>>545191605That's not what it means fuckface
>DUUUDE WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS TOTALLY BASED ON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES!! IT DEFINITELY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE TRUST ME GOY!!mutt larpers with an identity crisis are a funny bunch. Now tell me how the most christian countries on earth (subsaharan countries) still live in the stone age...Christkikes are inherently anti-White and try at every turn to undermine the White European race
>>545191939Yes it doesA straw man fallacy is an informal logical fallacy that happens when someone distorts, exaggerates, oversimplifies, or completely fabricates an opponent's argument to make it easier to attackThis is you>or completely fabricates an opponent's argument to make it easier to attackYou are too stupid for these conversations
>>545191961Yeah you'd probably prefer him to tell us to go to the mosque right ranjit?
>>545191883>30 pbtidand I am the one seething? kek projecting christkike keep crying
>>545191839>funnily enough they've slowly started to decline as soon as they adapted it. Do you believe White people declined in status in the 2nd millennium compared to the first, if so how?Has the very recent historical decline in the status of White people correlated with an increase or decrease in Christian government and belief?>>545191882>Such as?What do you mean such as? I just described it to you in explicit terms. Is there a reality outside you which follows rules of logic, physics etc independent of your presence or is everything around you a fake illusion in your own head? I assume you think the former if you're bothering arguing with others on the internet as that comes with a presumption that other people actually exist and are conscious independent of you in the same reality.>>though it is not the only driver of events in the universe?? How does this follow from you saying humans making choices is where causality comes from? Is causality still a thing regardless of if humans are there? Simple question.>No? Do I need your God in my will?Your problem with the Christian concept of free will is that you don't have ultimate power as you elucidated with your comment about wanting to do just do whatever you want in the afterlife. That has nothing to do with what free will is.>No need.I'm starting to see why, you seem to have a very jumbled concept of philosophy and what existence actually is. I mean even if you just start with Plato, literal 2500 year old writings will really help you out. You're all over the place. Start with the concept of forms as it seems you have trouble delineating categories we're talking about (I refer to the concept of causality as a fundamental property of reality and you "explain" it by referring to the byproducts of it already existing... etc)
>>545191914I definitely agree. Modern Christianity is infiltrated by Jews and forced into pacifism. Modern leaders seem to forget the religion was born of frustration at indecency which was expressed asa beating and whipping.>>545191923They seem to go hand in hand though. Especially with the bonestock commie faggots and leftniggers
>>545191914Yeah. As it stands it might as well grow its hair long and wear a piece sign.
>>545184890Yep. Called it. Turns out accusing me of watching anime and being a troon didn't make me wrong.
>>545192046Kek I respect what you're doing even if it seems kind of retarded
>>545192028uhhh I actually reject every flavor of your brown abrahamic filth, paco. Now can you please stop larping as a crusader, you have brown skin and it's pathetic
>>545192046>the memes of us are White wojaksBased and Christpilled.
>>545192114are you braindead? I am OP you low iq mutt spic
>if we say Christianity is le jewish psyop the chuds will abandon it and become materialist communists
>>545191923It does though. Atheism is inherently nihilistic because it disputes purpose or meaning objectively existing. The best anyone can do to cope with this is to just say "uhhh just pretend it exists anyway just because!" which obviously doesn't work and is retarded. This results in a lack of passion and love for existence in general or at its worst a passion and love for destruction of the self and others
>>545192046>36 posts> 36 posts no one readLol seems like, nigger kike
>>545189856>What is your sect/background?i am a white hebrew isrealite
>>545192155I fail to see the relevance of you being OP. You implied another poster was seething based off post count, and your post count is higher; by your own metric you are seething more than him. Cmon bud, it's just a little funny, relax
>>545192189>i am a white hebrew isrealiteLMAOOO we wuuz da true israelites n shieeet. Screencaped
>>545192085>What do you mean such as? I just described it to you in explicit termsNot really.>>545192085>Is there a reality outside you which follows rules of logic, physics etc independent of your presenceThe best answer I can give is the universe behaves overwhelmingly as if it exists independently of us.>>545192085>How does this follow from you saying humans making choices is where causality comes from?I didn't say that >>545192085>Do I need your God in my will?Still waiting for a yes or no. >>545192096>They seem to go hand in hand thoughTo idiots stuck in one sided memes
>>545192134Only non Christians are brown. Christianity is the White man's religion and the ancestral religion of EVROPA. Keep seething brown turdworlder moslem commie.
>>545192242>I fail to see the relevance of you being OPyeah I know having low IQ would impact you understanding complex concepts. I get it mystery meat abomination
>>545191413every single fucking part of how this works was thrown out for being uncomfortable even as the high reaches of society are bent to the futile task of the heights of atrocity it takes to deal with the downstream issues of this because the cornerstone of all the power jews and far far more terrible things have built is this exact problemlust is what happens when the gunk and gas stretch the pipes to capacity and it is innately self correcting to heterosexuality homo sex is what happens when this sexual function is abused to compensate for deeper energetic decay because this sexual function of sucking up this gunk and releasing qi is the same exact mechanism as what fucking releases the gunk in good times to begin with and every fucking aspect of faggotry and what it wants is downstream of this because once this cycle takes a certain amount of damage its easier to try and trigger this function to self regulate than deal with the problem itself and every gods damned bit of what faggotry does is pursuing exactly fucking this because it always stops workingtheir stupid little cheat stops and rather than pick up the ball of facing the problems they fucking join them and either keep moving to new extremes to get the same effect, try to drag in people still functioning to leech off them and either harass straights or molest kids or the fundamental secret of how those wretches the jews persist figure out consuming others to pay those debts.the entire political machine is a proxy war between the last people capable of thought on earth and mindless hordes of zombies trying to rip them apart in a desperation as dominating as failing to breath that humanity chose to forget than face its problems.all reduced to a childrens tale for stupid selfish children who chose ignorance over the rudness of a universe thats telling them them they have damned themselves ten thousand times over and are running out of chancesi fucking hate all the bastards who built this
>>545192170>It does though.Atheism is just the disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods. That's it
> Christianity is the White man's religion and the ancestral religion of EVROPA. Keep seething brown turdworlder moslem commie.thanks for the keks mexican larper
>>545184842It won't ever work because organized religion in the Jewish form, is a form of globalism. If you accept let's say an African as above someone from your own nation because he subscribes to your demon jew god. You basically created a form of retarded globalism. Where the segmentation isn't about merit or shared history and thereby also a form of merit. But like a negative IQ test where retardism or opportunism trumps over intellect or genetics. If you truly think a God would create you but will let you burn in a fire for eternity for not following his exact form of slave text you're objectively a full on motherfucking retard that shouldn't be near any type of governing. If you put a retarded 70 IQ nigger above this and let him breed with your daughter because he says: Heil Zombiejew. You're even more retarded. But alas, lot's of you faggots were born into this and not smart or intellectually honest enough to see the flaws. This is shit a free thinking child can think of. Yet you have adults mutilating the penis of their newborns for their Jew god.
>>545192189Not really
>>545192334trvke
>>545192259>Not really.External world same rules if no humans? Or external world projection from human mind alone?>The best answer I can give is the universe behaves overwhelmingly as if it exists independently of us.How do you determine this? You only exist in your own head, any "behavior" you see from the universe is filtered through your individual perception. >I didn't say that>>545191502>cause and effect in human life heavily stems from the choices we make>cause and effect>stems>from the choices we makeI'll just assume you couldn't articulate your thoughts properly.>Do I need your God in my will?God (or at least a concept of the Divine Mind) is necessary if objective reality exists outside of your head and is discernible since it being discernible and independent would rely on mind-based abstract concepts being prior to material manifestations, if everything is in your head you are insane and nothing you are saying has any meaning which also means you're automatically conceding.
>>545192245>star of remphan doesnt seem like israelite coded to me, Canaanite maybe
>>545192332Only browns act passive aggressive like this because they embrace the feminine too well. Youre a brown moslem commie turdworlder doing takiya.CHRIST IS KING!BEGONE MUDSLIM!DEUS VULT!
>>545192259>To idiots stuck in one sided memesLol. I've been debating athetards on the Internet for over 20 years and I used to be one too.I know a bit about the secular Jewish religion most atheists follow.Until this year theyd call you an antisemite or claim you have islamaphibia for the same shit they talk on Christianity. Using critical theory (literally talmudic thought) to assert that you are bad because you have more power.It's entirely pilpul shit.Don't believe in Christianity, I don't care, but if you're going to be a fucking atheist quit being a Christian-brain God-hater.
>>545192300Yeah, that's kind of a problem if you want to justify meaning and truth being real and significant, and engaging in debates about meaning and truth betrays you obviously feel they are real and significant.
>let me tell you about EVROPA and how it includes me>Deus vult o algolmaoo go back to mowing loans, wetback
>>545192300That's what it means but many atheists actually believe in God but hate his guts. It's super sad. That's why it's become another Jewish tool to use against the goyim by and large.
>>545192588>doesn't deny he's brown or mudslim
>>545192383Stfu faggot.
>>545192448>External world same rules if no humans? Or external world projection from human mind alone?This is just vagueness. External world in what sense? Outside of me? Outside of the earth? Outside the universe, space and time?>>545192448>How do you determine this?Because it's been around a lot longer than us and continues to do what it was doing before us and despite us. >>545192448>>cause and effect in human life heavily stems from the choices we make, though it is not the only driver of events in the universeThis idiot still has terrible reading comprehension no where does this say>>545191731>cause and effect is the result of humans making choices. It specifies human life and says its not the only driver. This isn't accounting for the entirety of cause and effect>>545192448>>Do I need your God in my will?Still waiting for a yes or no.>>545192480>I've been debating athetards on the Internet for over 20 yearsDoubtful
>>545192530>that's kind of a problem if you want to justify meaning and truth being real and significantFor you. That's why you're not one
>>545192668>That's what it means but many atheists actually believe in God but hate his gutsDo you hate the tooth fairy?
>HEY ESSE YOU REJECT ABRAHAMISM BUT U A MUDSLIME O ALGO the absolute state of sub-90IQ mexican larpers
>>545192698Post your hand with date, time and thread ID
>>545192761>DoubtfulWhy would you doubt that it's true.
>>545192847Because you don't know what atheism is
>>545192819No, and desu I forget about the tooth fairy.I never think about the tooth fairy.I've never rejected dollars under pillows.And I certainly would never see the about the tooth fairy. And I'd never engage in any sort of conversation or debate about the tooth fairy.So, maybe you didn't get my point about what you really are. Maybe it's hard to come to terms with?
>>545192843larping as le crusader meme is a dead giveaway he's a mexican groyper shitskin. They don't realize that they're just as bad as brown mudslimes and brown jews. All abrahamist niggers are ignoble subhumans no exceptions
>>545192761>External world in what sense? Outside of me? Outside of the earth? Outside the universe, space and time?External to your own perception obviously. Why pretend to be retarded?>Because it's been around a lot longer than us and continues to do what it was doing before us and despite us. How are you determining this? Everything you know about "how long its been around" is just information that's been filtered through your mind and individual perception/senses. You were not "around" before you existed as a consciousness and even if you were who's to say any memory you have of this hypothetical scenario would even be real and not something cooked up in your brain 2 minutes ago?>It specifies human life and says its not the only driver. This isn't accounting for the entirety of cause and effectI don't know, "cause and effect stems from human life" and "cause and effect is the result of human choices" sound like near identical statements at least in terms of how retarded they are. Are you ESL? unironic question. Anyhow, please account for the entirety of cause and effect and explain how "human life" is a driver of causality.>Still waiting for a yes or no.God is existence, if you accept existence and not an illusion you accept God by default because you cannot explain its source otherwise, as we have clearly and exhaustively demonstrated from your literal elementary schooler tier grasp of these topics. Seriously, READ PLATO and some other classical works on philosophy at least. There's better arguments to be made from your perspective but you're not using them.
>>545192877I know what I've observed. If you compare your weimar ideology to, well, weimar times, you'd likely recognize who you're working for ya goyim
>>545184925Israel allows the dome of the rock to be a mosque because they have not gotten around to tearing it down and building a third temple yet. That may very well change in our lifetimes because the younger generations of Israel are basically all blood-and-soil nationalists who would probably tear it down just to make a point to the arab world about who is boss and Israel as a country is backed by Chabad-Lubavitch billionaires who believe the messiah's arrival needs to be kick-started by doing stuff like restarting the temple-cult. All those ultra-orthodox men at the western wall are basically trying to accomplish the same thing, only, they're trying to use mass-prayer instead of money and firepower.
>>545192792Okay, justify from your perspective why truth and meaning are significant and why I should care about them.
>>545193035>External to your own perception obviouslyI've already answered this >Because it's been around a lot longer than us and continues to do what it was doing before us and despite us.>How are you determining this? Came to me in a dreamA>>545193035>I don't know, "cause and effect stems from human life" and "cause and effect is the result of human choices"I never said either of these things. You're really trying for that strawman though>>545193035>God is existenceTo you. Which is just your personal feelings and opinions. I don't see why I need them >>545193035>if you accept existence and not an illusion you accept God by default because you cannot explain its source otherwiseThat's just God of the gaps. I don't need to explain the "source" I'm content simply saying I don't know. It's the most logical and honest position.
>>545192975>No, and desu I forget about the tooth fairy.>I never think about the tooth fairy.Damn you must really hate the tooth fairy then.>>545193039>I know what I've observedYou mean through selected memes and video clips. I can almost gurantee you've never actually met and conversed with one
>>545193130>justify from your perspective why truth and meaning are significantWhy? I don't care if you believe in my opinions or not.
>>545193314>Came to me in a dreamAnd the cracks begin to show. And so you see, we all operate on a baseline level of being filtered from objective reality. Yet if we are to operate and act as if it is real, as you are doing now, you must be able to explain how it's possible and how YOU, from your limited perception, are able to make reliable and accurate statements about this reality despite the fact that everything you can possibly know or say about it is necessarily filtered through your individual perception and there's no other way to discern it.>I never said either of these things. You're really trying for that strawman thoughIt would help if you actually explained what you're trying to say at all. Causality is... caused by humans? Human life? Causality stems from human life's choices? Cause and effect are the result of humans making choices but also cause and effect are always around before and after us? Pick a lane, I feel like you don't even know what you're saying.>To you. Which is just your personal feelings and opinions. I don't see why I need them No, God is existence, literally. I.e. existence as you assume it is and your perception of it is literally not possible outside of God, just as it's literally not possible to violate a mathematical proof or a logical law and say A is not A but is B. You're doing the literal equivalent of 2 + 2 = insert non 4 number here by attempting to reject God while accepting an objective and independent reality that isn't reliant on your perception.>That's just God of the gaps. I don't need to explain the "source" I'm content simply saying I don't know. It's the most logical and honest position.There's a math equation on a board. One guy is able to solve it and get to an objectively correct answer and this is demonstrated via logical proofs. Other guy doesn't know what he's looking at, shrugs and says "I don't know". The latter guy is wrong and cognitively deficient.
>>545193410KEK, clearly you do. You're a namefag who's posted thousands of times in threads just like this. This is another problem with people like you. Every action and behavior completely betrays and goes against what you're supposedly saying, you're completely hare brained and don't even seem to realize that you're destroying your own argument as you do it, much like a kike. Or someone mindraped by a kike, I guess. Once again, this is the atheist problem."No you're wrong believe this!""Explain why.""uhhh no I don't care heh"Which is it? Or will you simply refuse to engage and still just end up proving yourself wrong. Eitehr way, it's a checkmate for your position. And that's why atheism is retarded. Please read literally any fucking philosophy book nigger.
>>545193530>>Came to me in a dream>And the cracks begin to showDo you apply that to Saul?>>545193530>It would help if you actually explained what you're trying to say at allI have. It seems to be a you problem.>>545193530>Causality is... caused by humans? Human life? Causality stems from human life's choices?Yes but isn't limited just the human experience. As in, cause and effect existed before humans and will after humans. >>545193530>>To you. Which is just your personal feelings and opinions. I don't see why I need them>No, God is existence, literally.I believe you believe that. Sadly you're only real argument is a fallacy lol.>>545193530>One guy is able to solve it and get to an objectively correct answer and this is demonstrated via logical proofsYou don't have that. All you really have is presuppositions that are based on biased personal feelings. >>545193649>KEK, clearly you doNot really. I'm not demanding anyone believe like me..>You're a namefag who's posted thousands of times in threads just like this.I like to dunk on christ turds who think their personal feelings and opinions are objective reality. >>545193649>"No you're wrong believe this!"Where did I say this?
>>545186559>Christians killed jews for nearly 2000 yearsNo they didn't. They allowed the jews to exist in their lands without exterminating them but destroyed all native European religions.
>>545184842"Work" how? Nothing is going to work if youre trying to prevent the collapse of modern society. We already gave women the right to vote 100 years ago. There is no coming back from that. You wanna kill some brown people or something? I guess it'll work but you need to make sure your ideological allies are controlling the courts and the law enforcement first. Right now a lot of judges and DAs are Communists actively trying to destroy the cou try by letting brown people run rampant. You can't just install a white nationalist leader and hope those commies will all comply. Commies have spent generations infiltrating our foundational institutions and driving out as much opposition as they can. You have to weed all of them out before white nationalism is going to work. But its pointless anyway. What are you trying to save? A society that lets women vote. Everyone and everything is unironically better off just supporting more and more progressive BS at this point. Bring it all crashing down fast enough and you might live to see a new society where women and niggers are correctly and logically treated differently because they are different.
>I like to dunk on christ turds who think their personal feelings and opinions are objective reality
>>545186559>Christians killed jews for nearly 2000 years Then why were all the native ancestral religions of europe thoroughly exterminated, while judaism, a far eastern foreign religion, was allowed to live and grow to become as powerful as today?
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>>545195362saved
>>545187439>before atheism: nigs and spics>after atheism: nigs, spics, jeets, muslims, gypsies, somalians, pakis, chinks, trannies, faggotsthey're rightin b4>nooo that wasn't my fault i never take responsibility for my actions which is why i became a subhuman and therefore an atheist in the first place
>>545189854It's less like slavery and more like BDSM. You can choose to stop submitting to YHWH if you say the safeword.
>>545195621Kek
>>545193073Its gonna be hilarious when they rebuild it and nothing happens
>>545195547>>after atheism: nigs, spics, jeets, muslims, gypsies, somalians, pakis, chinks, trannies, faggotsRight?
>>545189773>If you don't worship a Jew you're a Jew!Repeat ad infinitum like a niggerloop. Boring.
>>545195758tbf the most christian countries on earth are failing 4th world shithole filled with subsaharan apes
>>545186559No christian leader did to the jews what charlemagne did to the saxons
>>545195881True
>>545189809>why go through all this troubleBecause every little Christnigger is basically just deep down a little boy who wants to return to the comfy days of spending time at church where the biggest problem in his life was wanting a can of soda or to get home and play the Pokemons. Too many Whites want to 'go back', mostly to their childhoods, rather than realize the only way is forward, as men.So they cling to their comforting Jewish delusions, despite being more woke on the JQ than the average golem, they're struggling to break with the final chain that holds them prone for Jewish anal rape.A slave can be abused to love their chains if only because they're misguided into fearing true freedom. Pity the Christkike as you would pity any of your people who are held as chattel, but when the enemy sends a slave army to fight you, do not recoil from striking it down all the same.We can only hope we can pill some of these lost souls back towards their own racial spirituality and freedom before the real war begins.
>>545191731>Platowants kikecucks like you executed in his republic for your crime of blasphemy against the Gods
>>545184842>Will christian nationalism ever work?NO. Only Muslim nationalism can stop the zionists
>>545190012Why would I as a non-Jew care about some inter-Jew Jewish bullshit?My theology and philosophy is so fucking simple it's basically unassailable. Which is why I can spend my energy on things that matter while Christkikes are eternally neurotically coping about their own false identity and can only give off massive gay energy hardly any less faggotful than a Pride parade. Except it's more cringe because Christians are basically gay faggots in denial which somehow is worse than just a regular faggot being all faggoty up in public. >Just reject Jewish bullshitSo fucking simple and unassailable. Total victory every time without any effort whatsoever. In the face of it all the Jew-worshipper can do is cope and seethe.
>>545184842it will work and it will win. prepare your disgusting nigger demon asses for the rigid cock of consequences. satan has some hard demon dick waiting for your filthy sinful hedonistic ass. I'll pray for you but I don't think God will forgive you even with Christ forming a new covenant and dying for you in the worst way one can die. so I guess GGEZ to all kikes and nonwhites....
>>545185007Lmao… they are in for a rude awakening. We literally have the military on the southern border itching to use them for target practice. The Democrat-“controlled” Congress changes nothing about immigration. Trump controls Congress, no matter what because he has the veto retards.
>>545195954>charlemagneAnother corrupt monarch who sold his people to schlomos but according to groypers christian monarchism will save us from the jews.
>>545195881The problem is even the most well-meaning racially motivated Christcuck can't escape the fact that Christianity NEEDS Jews to exist. It is a splinter sect of Judaism, its whole foundation is even at the most charitable dependent on constantly being in competition with Judaism. To wipe out the Jewish race and erase their entire so called culture and religion would be to leave Christianity adrift, soulless, with their entire core empty. They could never countenance it. Christian doomsday prophecies NEED Jews to survive until then. Convenient since that day may never come, or not for so long as to be functionally irrelevant. It's a hard baked in in-built "let Jews live" clause. VERY convenient. For Jews.Everything about Christian theology demands slave morality (let your enemies shit on you because it makes you pious and "gain heaven", give all your wealth away on the incredulous promise of a "win" in the next life), of innate Universalism (a niggo be mah brudda!), and LETTING JEWS SURVIVE UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD.Yeah it's not for me, personally. I'm a White Nationalist and I want Jews extinct. Being Christian would be full retard.
>>545196189>Muslim nationalism can stop the zionistsMudshit types this as saudis gobble jewish cock
>>545197059>Be Charlamagne>Maintain total ban on usury as the corrosive evil it is?>At least make it a universal vice on an equal playing field?>No.>Let Jews, an insane inbred universally hostile and irredeemable parasitic demonic race have a monopoly on it ensuring your people will eventually become financially enslaved by JewryIf Charlamagne was great he would have finished what Hadrian started.
>>545184842add leftist "antisemitism" to that please.it should reflect that leftists are jews and jews are leftists and they vote for the same jewish anti-white globohomo things together every single time. it would work as a middle panel. and the true antisemitism chadjack should have an SS uniform. thanks!
>>545197105nice try nizar, too bad everything you said is categorically false, and based on Greek scripture which predates your pedophile faggot sandnigger "prophet" by almost a millenium, which your caravan raider nigger brain can't comprehend (because you're a stupid dirty brown nigger)
>>545197105>Being Christian would be full retardBrother, we Muslims will soon rule UK. It is our destiny to rule.
>>545198564>we Muslims will soon rule UK. It is our destiny to rule.You have no idea the tremendous flushing that's coming for you..
>>545198564you're no ruler or conqueror muzzie nigger, you live off gibs and at the mercy of European natives and as soon as that stops you're going to get killed or shipped back to your country. Never mistake tolerance for weakness
>>545197059>>545197758No joke, I've seen ecrusaders in these kinds of threads defend charlemagne as an example of christian antisemitism because his policies supposedly let to the formation of ghettos and population bottlenecks, which is somehow preferable to just killing them. The coping is insane
Christians are wannabe-jews.You believe in a Jew based on a book, written by Jews and their promised Jewish salvation.If you dont like it, leave it
>>545184842>memeflagthe national socialists have always advocated for christianity - https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
>>545184842and rebuked paganism- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_gegen_Geheimlehren_und_sogenannte_Geheimwissenschaften
>>545184890for thousands of years, christians have been white nationalists- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_NI
>>545185007>democrat ran congressthe democrats are atheistschristins voted for trump to deport the foreigners and build a wall
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>>545184842>reject every aspectthe pagans considered the god of the old testament to be one of their own - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caelus#Jewish_syncretismand when a pagan emperor came to power and b& christianity, he attempted to rebuild the third temple- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)you literally affirm their beliefs over those of white christians
>>545188092jesus's Y chromosome comes from the fatherand he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49he's not "a jew", he's god
>>545188116>pagan men worship gods of warand christian men defeat them time and again>pagan women worship goddesses of fertilityand christian women are more fertileyou worship demons- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimonwho rape you- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythological_rape_victims
>>545189040majority of pagans and atheists are non-whitemajority of whites are christian
>>545199738>+)>>545199785>>545199809>>545199840>>545199876>>545199904>brown christcuck seethenice try brown turk rapebaby
>>545189040and niggers will follow the anti-christthey are the marked sons of cain / canaan
>>545199984Made up nonsense that isn't even biblical
>>545199950>majority of atheists are non-whiteNot in the West
>>545199932>and christian men defeat them time and again
>>545199904>he's not "a jew",Let's see if this idiot does it again.He was circumcised as a jew
>>545199840>christins voted for trump to deport the foreigners and build a wall
>bulgayrian shitskin christcuck gets BTFO at the start of the thread>comes back for morewhy are they like this?
>>545199809This is a lie
>>545194017You call it destruction, we call it choosing alternatives. Your worldview is one of genocide and massacre, of might being right, to rape and slay the enemy men. Ours is about letting go of the barbarism and building the shining city on the hill. If it was up to you, we'd all be tortured to death, the fact you're still yapping a thousand years later is testament to mercy and christiana pietas
>>545184842No becuse it’s an ideology that keeps turning its cheek
