Is this fake news or do they really hate God?
>>545134670They hate low IQ faggots who need a sky wizard to function
>>545134670BASED, this should be implemented here too. In fact deport all the foreign invaders loitering and littering "free" bibles too.
>>545134670They hate empathy. Japanese don't understand the concept and it confuses and angers them.
>>545134670they have a buddhist hell, they also believe if you focus really hard when you die, buddha floats down from the sky with dancing sluts to take you to heaven
>>545134670How is it threatening hell if it's true? It's just informing them of the facts
>>545134670Based, this kills abrahmoid pests
>>545134670Based. Sick of jew worshipping christcucks
Let's see how that plays out for them.
>>545134670>Japan doesn't want to warn kids about hell.Interesting damnationmaxxing strategy.
>>545136854This. Empathy is only possible under the threat of eternal torment
>>545134670>banning circle-jerk brainwash actions of cultist to reinforce their delusion is le badkys memeflag
>>545136609fpbpworshipping a kike on a stick is silly
>>545137048I mean, this is why they hate Christianity in general. Doing something nice to another human being for no reason at all is foreign to a Japanese mind. It cannot process this, it operates only under a threat of punishment. When a Japanese is left alone with a woman on a train he will 100% rape her if he knows he can get away with this. To him this is the natural order of things.
>>545134670>jews in japan attack the existing culture
>>545134670China does the same thing. People aren’t allowed to pick a religious affiliation until they’re 18 over there. Plus, China considers any religious practice within its borders to be under the authority of the party; they don’t even allow the Vatican to pick its own bishops
>>545134670Based, children need not religions and if they want to join cults they can do it when they are 18
>>545134670I’m a Christian and agree that constitutes abuse.
>>545137174>Doing something nice to another human being for no reason at all>If you don't be nice you're going to be burned alive for eternityChoose one.
>>545137367Nowhere in the Bible does it say you are going to hell for not being nice. That's a philosophy.
>>545134670religion is when the weak "cope".
>>545134670What about giving them bad grades on a test. Holding them back a year. No diploma.
>>545134670Imagine beung so much of a slave this makes you seethe.
>>545138032How does a world full of people lying, stealing, murdering so on and so on, not make the Earth a living hell. And how is Japanese saving face culture any different.
>>545137174I notice there's a contradiction in using empathy as a status game. It requires viewing others as inferior on the moral hierarchy, which itself is a failure of empathy itself.I would never use empathy as a moral ranking system.
>>545136952they probably mean Naraka thoughif it's even real
>>545136854American evangelists threatening their children with hell is the opposite of empathy
You can practice empathy because you believe it is a trait worth cultivating. It's for yourself, not something you use to establish your superiority over others.
>>545134670>import mudslimes jewrats and christcucks>desertnigger religion A-B-C problems arise
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>>545137367In Christianity God judges you for the state of your heart, not the sum total of your actions. Meaning if you do good deeds or the sole sake of your own salvation and not out of love for your neighbor, you extra go to hell.
>>545137367You don’t need to do something nice according to Paul. Becoming a slave for god is the prerequisite for salvation. Buddhism teaches empathy better than the Jew religion
>>545138259High IQ American post
>>545134670God I hate this idea that we must make sure children experience absolutely no discomfort. It will stunt their development,How will they ever learn to leave their comfort zone?
>>545138539Why in every Buddhist country, is opportunities for women so inferior, that so many have to take on prostitution. Why can't Princess Aiko be Empress. Stop acting like you believe in all life is equal.
>>545138126You are really self reporting by trying to die on this hill that without being able to make kids follow a belief system by telling them if they don't they will be going to a place of eternal torment, that there is no longer an incentive to be a decent person
>>545138661>benelux cryptokike at again
>>545138676Are you not seeing the world becoming hell now. I'm gonna invade you because you have shinny rocks.
>>545134670>1pbtid Way argue your point imam.
>>545137174There's always a reason, you want something from them later like a favor or you want control over them or you want their approval. All of it is for social status and gain. Kindness is as made up as heaven and hell is.
>>545138663Secularism is what caused women’s rights in Europe, not Christianity.
>>545138259>state of your heart, not the sum total of your actions- that's protestantism ("thoughts and prayers")- in cathlicism you gotta do both (exam *and* coursework is judged)
Pretty sure the Japanese hate Christians less than they used to. I'm pretty sure the first group of Abrahamics that tried to ply their trade got executed.So killed vs distrusted. Moving up in the world!
Yeah, telling children an omnipotent being will torture them forever IS child abuse.If I told a child I was going to torture them forever it would be child abuse too. >But god doesn't torture you, you do it to yourselfYou're a monster and shouldn't be allowed to have kids
>>545139089Stop forcing them study for their math test then.
In America, you go to jail for hitting your kids. But it’s fine to threaten them with hellfire or abandonment for not doing their chores.
>>545134670based. abrahamic sky daddy faiths have no place in asia. japan's spirituality is about paying hommage to the ancestors, shintoism and buddhism and confucianism too. they have no need for some distant foreign man's religions
>>545134670They hate kike subversion, which the whole desert trilogy is.
>>545139089>>545139169>>545134670>>545139454>>545139373>GET A JOB, GOY!>LAZY, UNGRATEFUL!>BOOTSTRAPSFools. Netherlands guy seems OK.Anyone saying "die on this hill" or "hill to die on" is a jewish brainwashed US government nigger.
>>545138259That's one way to mind fuck people who do good. I came to the same conclusion without the wager.I guess Christianity is for dummies.
>>545134670Based. Time to flush away Abrahamic religions.
>>545139829The people need it!
>>545138126>And how is Japanese saving face culture any different.It leads to a nicer place than the West for one.
>>545137174>Doing something nice to another human being for no reason at all is foreign to a Japanese mindare you retarded?the only occassions where strangers have helped me with no expectation of something in return have been when the stranger was Japanese - and ive lived in the UK most of my life.>i need muh jew worship religionnigga please...
>>545139913It's not nicer. I've experienced Japan for over a year in the past three years of travel. The tourist containment zones are nicer than abandoned Western urban centers. That's it.
Japs are paganist pedophiles who will burn in hell. But at least they had low crime and clean streets
>>545134670>god is yhwh/saturnno thanks, white devils
>>545134670Just leave the japs alone
>>545134670they recognize how destructive and subversive christianity and their jewish masters are
Japanese belief is an ironic one. They are extremely dogmatic in their resistance to dogma. Meanwhile, Japan is a country where if a rape of a child happens but nobody loses any public face by not investigating it, it doesn’t get investigated.
>>545138954>lying as naturally as they breathefriendly reminder it was christian lawmakers who handed the reigns to jewish feminists when it came time to rewrite the marriage and family laws.
They're high IQ for a reason, religion and being a retard goes hand in hand
>>545134670baste
>>545140112The crime is low but it’s not anywhere close to as low as they say. First of all, they just blatantly lie about their statistics. This is a known fact within the Japanese bureaucracy. They just don’t admit it to foreign reporters. Second, Japan is a country where if a crime occurs, but nobody loses any public face by not following up on it, it’s not followed up on. There is no sense of justice for justice’s sake. There is no moral compulsion because you’ll be judged by a discerning god. It’s all just social harmony bs ultimately. So many crimes in Japan never been become statistics simply because nobody cares.
>>545138967No, Protestantism states that neither your heart nor your deeds matter so long as you have faith. The refusal to analyze themselves for sins and desist from those sins is the core of their doctrine. They're jews, essentially.>>545139715You can't do good unless you recognize good as objective, and if you recognize good as something that exists eternally, externally and objectively then you've already recognized God's existence without calling him God. If you refuse to acknowledge goodness as something that exists objectively, then you're simply an evil person with no morals and no principles.
>>545134670If I catch a christcuck mouthing off about hell to my child, I'll punch its fucking teeth in
>>545137174>um... they be totes jealous! and like gay!what's the reason behind Christians hating literally everything? I don't think even Muslims seethe this much on day to day basis
>>545140640You actually won’t do shit Sven. You’re an impotent LARPagan chud talking tough on an anonymous image board.
>>545140640Yeah, going to prison for assault and your child being raised by their mother is real good for them. I wish words didn't hurt you, tranny.
>>545137174This is 100% true and something I came to learn by living there. There’s an underbelly that is very real and frankly evil.
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>>545140031This is just an obvious lie. I have no doubt Japanese people have helped you but they do it because they’re socially expected to not be seen refusing. Westerners help you because they feel a moral compulsion, regardless who sees.
>>545140898Exactly. An American will help you even if he is absolutely certain he is not going to get any reward from it and nobody will even know he did it. It comes naturally to him. A Japanese will help you if he knows someone is watching him and he will be judged based on his actions. If a Japanese knows 100% nobody will discover his actions, he'll kill you just for the fun of it. They are people with no empathy.
>>545139373KekJap women are the biggest prostitutes on earth btw
>>545134670The Abrahamic Religions and Karmic religions are vile. They are so vile, that even if they were real, the moral response would be to reject and rebel against such grotesque gods.Good on Japan.
>>545134670>Godshove your god up your asshole kike zyklon
>>545137135worshiping anything is silly
>>545137174>Doing something nice to another human being for no reason at allshalom kike. we dont conflate things here kike
>>545140799>>545140822as stated, anyone trying to solicit my innocent children to their insane bullshit will get a well deserved punch in the teeth>pagan>anyone who doesnt believe in my delusions must believe in some other delusion
>>545142414Yeah most religions are just plain stupid and larp, but those are the cream
>>545136609>sKy WiZaRddon't you understand the concept of a God or Gods in general?It's the most embarrassingly redditor thing to say about religion. It shouldn't be an "sky wizard", but "sky god" instead. Semantics
>>545134670>Threathening children to enforce religious beliefsThat's a crime - everyone has freedom of religion.>is a form of psychological abuse.It's not 'a form of' abuse - it's a damaging crime.
>>545134670If hell is real we should kill everyone in infancy.That way 100% of the people born get to go to heaven.Why would you allow someone to live and risk being send to hell and suffer for all eternity?
>>545134670based
>>545142835Referring to the sky at all when referring to religion outs somebody as an uneducated moron in general. Anyone who has read Plato would know that divinity is an informing principle with creative authority over the natural world, and not something that exists within the natural world. Calling a deity "sky anything" would be like somebody calling mental math "sky fingers".
>>545142885Well, Anti-Natalism would be the go to option.Christians should be anti-natalists, because they believe that the majority of people end up burning in Hell.But alas, Christians go by their biological programming rather than morality.
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>>545134670Is Hell even in the Bible
>>545143516Yes but it's just "a bad place", any description of it beyond that is larp.
>>545143573>the literal English word "hell" is completely absent from the original texts of the Bible.>If you were to open the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, you would not find that word anywhere. It is a much later English additionKinda amazing things like literal Looney Tunes is where people get the idea
>>545134670JAPAN HAS PEARL HARBORED THE WORLD FOR FAR TOO FUCKING LONG
Don Bluth depicts Hell.in the All Dogs Go To Heaven franchise but he is Mormon and doesn't believe in a fiery Hell...
>>545143627Blame Dante
"Hey kid, don't play in the street or you might get hit by a car" "Wow I can't believe you're threatening to hit a child with a car, that's abuse! Kids can play in the street if they want to"
>>545136854Ah yes the beautiful empathy of terrorizing a little kid and giving them crippling anxiety. My parents did this to me. They also told me the devil can appear as an "apparition" at night in your room. I am a serious drug user now
>>545143627they werent written in english to begin withof course they wouldnt use the word that came after their time.
>>545137174Well, this shit is to deal with cults, actually. You don't know what you're talking about.Japan has had a ''cult'' problem for a long time. There are lots of small religious cults. Many of them are technically Buddhist, like Aum Shinrikyo.This is not something that would affect ordinary churches or similar institutions.
>>545134670BASEDFuck Christians, fuck Muslims, fuck jews.
>>545136891Shut the fuck up jew worshiper>>545137174Shut the fuck up jew worshiper>>545138245Shut the fuck up jew worshiper>>545142852Shut the fuck up jew worshiper>>545142835Shut the fuck up jew worshiper
>>545134670Based
>>545144111Not the same.Kids should be taught to not bow to Evil. They should not be taught to submit out of threats. "worship God or else you burn." Even if it were true, people should be taught to resist evil no matter how powerful it is.
>>545140898>I have no doubt Japanese people have helped you but they do it because they’re socially expected to not be seen refusingnope. in every case there was no one else to know they were helping.westerners don't ever help people. the west has a soulless hyper-individualist scum culture.fuck your jew worship religion and fuck jesus
>>545140835Says the guy living in the country with the highest per capita homicide and sexual assault rate in the developed world
>>545144111Christians are such slimy mother fucks. How do you not see how jewish you are?
>>545144111Cars are actually real
>>545134670Are they wrong tho?
>>545145092Yes, a morally just God would want us to stand up to such threats. In fact, a just God would be proud of his child standing up to such a thing.
>>545145401Wait until /ptg/ is gone which means tpusa will go and all of their jeet shills promoting Christianity will vanish. None of the Christian posters here in the last 10 years were real. They were all shills.
If you're a devout Christian or something like that, you should actually welcome this kind of approach to this issue in Japan.You probably wouldn't support some far-fetched Korean Christian cult or the like. Asian religious sects are a mess.
>>545145599Christian's do enjoy things like this, they act obnoxious on purpose so there will be a backlash so they can claim persecution. It's the same trick the jews use. That's for Christians learned it from Jews wrote their Bible after all.
>>545145595>Wait until /ptg/ is goneThat's sadly never happening jannys didn't kill that thread the entire 4 years Zion Don was out of office
>>545145692Well there was still a good chance he was coming back at that time, it was like a future investment. But this is his last term permanently, so they won't spend money on /ptg/ after he's gone because there will be zero chance of any return on the investment.
>>545134670I think this is more against cults they have. Unless you think you can scare the children to be devout. Those will leave the faith the moment they can anyway.
>>545145846What the fuck are you talking about
>>545134670Based, fuck adults with imaginary friends poisining everything with their peenie snippie sheep cult.
>>545134670They see American Christians the same way we see African voodoo practitioners.Rightfully so, christians are kikewhipped slaves to the jews.
>>545144853>Shut the fuck up jew worshiperWhat is "Jesus" and what is "jew" and what is "worshiper"? And post documentation of you being in charge of /pol/ and then fuck off to a religious board, you religous nut!
>>545138259>Christianity God judges you for the state of your heart, not the sum total of your actions.That is not a good or benevolent god worth worshipping if child molesters and murderers go to heaven if they love Jesus with all their heart the moment before death, but someone who dedicated their life to saving others would go to hell if they were skeptical of a jewish god.Cowardly demonic christians can't twist that into being a good system. You worship a demon.
>>545145684If they get backlash, they're martyrs after all. And martyrs are assured to go to heaven.
>>545145963Asia is full of cults. If you have children born to a parents that belong to a cult, its easy way to get children out of abusive environment. If the children face psychological violence through scaring them with hell, you can have them taken to a foster care. Which has a chance of being slightly better upbringing.Stop thinking about fucking dogs, you brains are mush because of it.
>>545146150I think you misread the " shut the fuck up" it's part, Rabbi Levi
>>545146625Answer the questions! And now also say what "Rabbit Levi" is!
>>545136891>>545136854>>545136907>>545137040niggerfaggots
>>545137174disgusting faggot kill yourself.
>>545140835shut up amerimutt nigger kike
>>545138584>>545138259evil niggerfaggots
>>545134670Disgusting. I bet they’re also against circumcision. The nips are a backwards and sadistic people.
>>545138663>>545138661evil nigger kill yourself kike
>>545138954cuckstian niggers were also behind the kikes in pushing feminism and foid rights.
Ban circumcision and yeah this should be called child abuse for sure.
>>545139600shut up nigger stop supporting abrahamic kikery
>>545134670I'm Muslim living in a ME country and I don't talk to my 5 year old kid about hell, although it sometimes comes up in conversation or Youtube, teach them to love God before teaching them to fear God.
>>545140112mald more tranny kike
>>545140467>>545140111>>545140799evil mutt tranny kikes
>>545141183>>545140898lying kikes
>>545142064foids are all trash regardless of race,kike tranny
>>545134670Also to be fair the Japanese version of hell or Jigoku 地獄 is much scarier then the Abrahamic Hell
>>545144111nigger tier retardation from this kikemutt
>>545134670> do they really hate God?picrelany religious state is doomed, so i get it. a populous doesn't think logically, it thinks that a man in a pointy hat, or mystical spirit is the way. > Frank Herbert wrote about this 60 years ago
>>545146348By the state of your heart I mean your relationship with objective Truth and objective Goodness. A man who has never heard of God before but still believes that goodness is an objective principle and attempts to lead his life in accordance with that principle is destined for heaven. Your dichotomy is drawn along the wrong lines. Atheists are generally hellbound because they're skeptical towards objective morality, not because they're skeptical towards religious institutions. Or in other words, any man who lives in accordance with Goodness is a man of religious devotion whether he knows it as such or not, because religious devotion is a matter of alignment towards principles and not a matter of ritual, tradition or culture.
>>545136854>MUH EMPATHY>coming from the same people who go on about how empathy outside your immediate family is mental illness
>>545139341>In America, you go to jail for hitting your kidsIf only. There would be a lot more orphans if child abuse was ever properly prosecuted. It's a double edged sword because if the country was active in putting unfit parents in their place, it would shuffle the children onto other family members or the system that already has enough weight, without much consideration or compensation.
>>545134670If you're threatening hell to try to convert children you're doing it wrong. The correct way is to baptize them and put them through the process of confirmation where they are confirmed in adolescence. Following this method they never have to fear hell.
>>545134670Based as fuck tho. I remember my niece talking about apocalyptical shit at my 7th birthday cuz I knew right from wrong now, so it's time for world ending jewish schizo shit up my throat. Said auntie is a preacher at a church, btw
>>545134670Japanese first contact with "christians" were the jesuits, so yeah, no shit they hate it.jesuits are the agents of satan.
>>545146348>child molesters and murderers>love Jesusyou are fucking retarded
>>545140617Protestantism states that you need to be given a new hearth in the baptism in the Holy Spirit that is given by grace. you cant earn your way into heaven.catholocism teaches as long as you wear a mask and larp as good its good enough if you stay in a state of grace, without any true repentance or change of heart.>>545148366>A man who has never heard of God before but still believes that goodness is an objective principle and attempts to lead his life in accordance with that principle is destined for heaven.works based salvation is not christian. catholocism was a scam.
>>545149054*is a scam
>>545149054Catholicism and Protestantism are both scams. The Catholic church is Babylon and the Protestant church is the dragon and beast spoken of in Apocalypse. All true Christians know that faith and charity make one, because charitable behavior naturally flows from anyone who has faith and any deed done from love of merit and not from love of God cannot be charity.Protestantism explicitly teaches that all good deeds are merit seeking by nature. It denies the existence of charity done out of love for God entirely, and asserts that faith alone leads to salvation. Their doctrine is insane heresies, because they willfully ignore the dozens of times Christ himself said that anyone who truly has faith will take up their own cross and follow His example by denying themselves daily. Which is to say, to abstain from sin and live according to the Decalogue.
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>>545134670YHVH is bad for children and other living beings
>>545149279>because they willfully ignore the dozens of times Christ himself said that anyone who truly has faith will take up their own cross and follow His example by denying themselves daily. Which is to say, to abstain from sin and live according to the Decalogue.thats the result of a transformed heart, not an option. the moment you are saved and baptized in the spirit you will carry your cross daily, without God writing his law on your heart you cant even abstain from sin or keep the decalogue. its Gods doing, not your own, you have zero options, obedience happens naturally.
>>545148209There are over 2000 churches in Tokyo alone, which means there are more churches than Shinto shrines in Tokyo.Cult-like churches, which have been the subject of controversy in recent years, are less than 1% of them and have almost nothing to do with how Christianity is perceived in Japan overall.
>>545138126lol. You need to be deported to Christian Latin America or Christian Africa to live how your christian brothers live: Murdering, lying, stealing.
>>545149550Regeneration is God's doing, but you still have to participate as if from yourself. If you don't strive to investigate yourself for sins, acknowledge those sins, and then attempt to desist from sinning, then God cannot bring you into a state of remission from sins, because in that state you still love to sin more than you love God. Man's nature in isolation is nothing but pure evil, and he can do nothing good from himself, but in order to be saved he still has to act as if from himself while asking for God's help and acknowledging that all innocence, goodness and wisdom comes solely from God. If that's the kind of life you strive to lead, then that's very good, but it should be noted that you've departed from traditional Protestantism, which says that believers are already pure simply because they say they believe. Or if you're claiming that you're perfectly and completely sinless here and now because you were baptized, then there's not much to say other than that you've never truly investigated yourself.
>>545149547Abrahamics do not have morality. They have social facades and sociopathic "uka chaka uka chaka" might makes right group think.
>>545150054thats like saying God isnt all powerful and has to rely on fallen human flesh to do the right things.God doesnt do away with the fallen flesh and you are suddenly able to do good, the fallen flesh nature is a constant reminder that you need God.your soul is secure in Christ and you have that assurance and freedom of heart, but that does not away with the flesh battling against the Spirit.Paul dedicated a whole chapter to that reality in Romans.
>>545150253>freedom of heart*peace of heart
>>545150253No, I'm saying that God is all powerful and all loving. You're saying that he is not, if your claim is that he can save you against your will. You would be claiming that God is forcing you away from your chief love, which is the love of evil, the love of falsity, and the love of sinning, against your will. My claim is that God refuses to save any man who doesn't want to be saved. And anyone who refuses to strive towards purity is somebody who does not want to be saved and does not love God with all of his heart and all of his soul. The whole of Christian religion is predicated on doing good and avoiding evil, and anyone who says otherwise cannot be a Christian.
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>>545134670>tormenting children with delusional bogeyman stories of eternal suffering might not be healthyWho would have thought.
>>545150859It's more like that fish whose tongue was replaced by a little crab parasite thing.>the fish is Protestants/Evangelicals>the tongue crab is jewsBecause neo-Pharisees having any significant influence on the Christian religion is a pretty recent issue.>which began when his tongue was eaten
>>545148888Jesus is the only 'god' that says he'll forgive literally anyone who asks.Why do you think thres so many child molesting priests? They know the house of their rabbi master will provide them more victims and paid the tab on their sins. They believe 100% they can do anything as long as they have faith, just like the Bible says.
Daily reminder that the west has abandoned Christianity but the antichristian shills need you to believe it's responsible for the policies adopted by those that rejected like a resentful child emancipated from their parents because they figured not letting them do whatever they want is abuse. Western civilization was at its' most stable and powerful under Christianity but they constantly declare "a religious state is doomed" even while the walls are closing in under secularism. Then, they double down and make their entire identity about attacking these institutions that have next to no political power. They can't ever admit what a disastrous mistake it was to reject their religion in favor of intelligent sounding philosophy and reasoned argument that can justify anything through convincing enough arguments. "Professing themselves as wise, they became fools."
>>545151213The Bible says the opposite of that. It's almost 1,000 pages of pure "You will be judged according to the quality of your works" and "Workers of iniquity will be cast out forevermore". The only group that proclaims themselves Christians and assert that they won't be judged for their behavior are those who adhere to the "faith alone" doctrine, who are called heretics.
>>545150484>if your claim is that he can save you against your willlets put it this way, he leaves you no other choice. he doesnt force you, but he also doesnt give you another option.the whole concept of man reaching out to God is backwards, God reaches out to humans.no sinful fallen flesh human chooses God on their own, salvation is instigated by God.
>>54514982840 million people live in the greater tokyo area. 14 million in tokyo proper. 2,000 is a tiny number proportionally.there are like literally 8,000 churches in houston, a city of 8 million. stop larping. nobody thinks "ah yes, japan, that christian nation"
>>545151213if you actually believe that I feel sorry for you.>>545151346its the work that God does in you that counts, not what you do thinking you do "good".it is so that no man can boast. nobody who will enter heaven ever deserved it on his own volition, it is what God uses you for which are the good works, not of you but of God.Philippians 212 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
>>545151213Probably not quite.At least not in the Catholic Church, because there you actually have to study theology to become a priest.So they know they'll go to hell, implying any actual abuse took place, which apparently most of the time wasn't the case.>HE TOUCHED THE BOYS BUTT>at minimum nobody saw that he didn't, like Michael Jackson>this means the Pope (and Michael Jackson) is the AntichristThat's what the jews actually want you to believe.But yeah, they will also be aware that God will forgive their sins eventually, although the intervening time may not be pleasant.>everybody is a poor sinnerJust gotta show enough contrition and your sentence is shortened to the equivalent of 1000 years in hell, or some shit like that.
>>545151556the catholic concept of purgatory is ridiculous.imagine ending up in hell thinking you will come out of it only to perish. diabolical teaching.
>>545151378>the whole concept of man reaching out to God is backwards, God reaches out to humans.>no sinful fallen flesh human chooses God on their own, salvation is instigated by God.These are both true. But it's also true that man has to act as if from himself at every given moment. Without the illusion of freedom given to man by God, man would just be a scarecrow. The men who love God act for God's sake as if from themselves while knowing that all good action is from God and not from themselves. If somebody tells themselves "it's okay for me to sin because i'm already justified" or "i don't need to investigate myself for sin in order to be saved", then that person does not love goodness and truth because he is not striving towards goodness and truth, and thus is not saved. He loves evil and falsity, and can only go to where his fellow sin lovers go. Every soul moves towards what it loves. Lovers of goodness congregate in Heaven, and lovers of evil congregate in hell. Heaven is open to everyone and no one is barred from it, but the evil simply choose not to go there because it doesn't contain what they love, which is evil, falsity, adultery, hatred, revenges and so on. Freedom and rationality are given to man so that he can cultivate a love for goodness, because love cannot be compelled. It has to be voluntary, otherwise it is not love.
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>>545151346Correct in principle, but by this stage of critique you have to question wether Jesus was/is God at all. That part of the story fucking reeks.>misinterpretation of his words plus low quality embellishment to make a viable cult out of it, heavily inspired by Greco-Roman practices (also dropping circumcision to appease them), where the Emperor also was recently declared the "son of god". Hell? That's just a copy of Hades for the most part. Horned demons? They (and even other pagans before them) got spooked by Bacchus and his crew.
>>545151744if you think the Holy Spirit just lets you go on in your sinful ways then you dont know the Holy Spirit.yes, repentance is a one time decision on your part which God grants you, but the change in your ways is of the Holy Spirit. your entire life basically makes a 180° turn on how you behave, you simply dont want to sin anymore and the act of sinning will be like heavy work.this is the constraining power of the Holy Spirit in the born again believer.>Without the illusion of freedom given to man by God, man would just be a scarecrow.we are just dust by definition. there is nothing good in man unless God put his goodness into him.
>>545151458There are only like 2,900 Buddhist temples, 2,100 churches, 1,500 Shinto shrines, and 30 mosques in Tokyo.I'm not trying to say Japan is a Christian nation. It's definitely not. It's fair to say that it's generally accepted quite generously as a minority religion. In modern-day Japan, Christianity itself is almost never the target of backlash.
>>545151834You're looking at it from the wrong direction, if you're asking that question. You already know, or ought to know, that goodness and truth are objective. And you already know, or ought to know, that if God is anything at all He must be Truth itself and Good itself. So the question should be aimed the other way, rather than "Was Jesus God?", it ought to be "Was God visible in Jesus?". Given that Jesus's behavior was nothing but good and his words were nothing but true, the answer is yes.
>>545134670But stories about how the forest yokai will kidnap them and rape their buttholes if they stay out too late is a-ok.
>>545151973I think I may see where you're confused. Sinning isn't just an action, it's a state of the heart. Any man who feels anger for another man is a murderer in his heart. Any man who feels lust is an adulterer in his heart. Simply desisting from the outward form of a sin does not exempt you from being a sinner, which is why it's absolutely necessary to analyze and correct your behavior on a continual basis. You cannot honestly claim to be free from all sin in the here and now, so it's vital that you don't pull the wool over your own eyes by insisting that you have no further spiritual progress to make. Spiritual stagnation is death, because it's evidence that you don't actually love God and don't want to grow closer to Him. Keep striving.
>>545136854Meanwhile Russia is renowned worldwide for it's empathy.>>545152122at least those are their own stories, not some imported jewish nonsense.
>>545152375maybe you just misunderstood me. when I said you are given a new heart by God it is from the inside that you work out your salvation. the outside, your actions, follow naturally, but the origin is in the heart.thats why Jesus rebuked the pharisees as white washed tombs, their actions might look righteous but in the inside they were rotten. this is why outside works alone dont make you righteous. the heart is at the center of it.
>>545152389Then Nordic hel or Greek hell is okay, right?
>>545152118Seeing him as the messiah is reasonable enough. That he was a prophet is a fact (irrespective of how prophet is defined). Was Jesus holy? Stupid question.But putting him into a Trinity does more harm than good, in my opinion. Does it even accomplish anything? In practice having a separate Jesus, as a prophet, saint, messiah, savior and the like covers his function completely, and even if the Trinity was real it would be unnecessary to acknowledge?It's still just one God (except with a bit of a split personality for no reason). You just worship God, pray to God - not some Trinity thing, and hopefully not to a Jesus, because that would be contrary to his teachings.>all due to the fatherI honestly don't get the point, but I'm not fucking retarded. It's mental gymnastics for small brains, with even a dose of contrarianism.>what do you mean you don't believe in my irrelevant, trivial, inconsequential sikrit club doctrine?>guess I'll have to kill your entire family in the Jesus-approved mannerAnd this literally happened.>because, in effect, they couldn't agree that the Trinity god is the same God as the god of monotheism>??? implications
>>545152533We agree there, man is nothing other than his chief love, which is his heart. But if you're saying that your heart is stainless despite refusing to look into it, then that's like saying that your closet has no dust in it despite refusing to open it and see for yourself. My point this whole time has been that introspection and prayer are necessary components of religion, whereas your point has seemed to be that introspection and prayer are not needed because God will simply make you perfect with absolutely no effort, thought, care, concern or reform on your part. If that is your position, then all that's left to say is that your heart can't be pure until you've learned how to wash yourself. God cannot and will not do it for you, because he loves you too much to coddle you in that way. You have to want to become good, and then God will make you good. None of this is done from your own power, but it has to be done as if from your own powers.
>>545136609Absolutely based
>>545142835Yahweh, your Jewish sky God, requires blood sacrifice to annul sins. So Jewish sky necromancer is more appropriate. Faggot
>>545134670$
>>545146150| Cope | subhuman
>>545152914>But if you're saying that your heart is stainless despite refusing to look into itwhen did I ever say that? I said clearly that the fallen flesh nature still persists, this includes sinning. we sin against God countless times a day without us being even aware of it. the flesh is at enmity with God, that doesnt just go away magically.>whereas your point has seemed to be that introspection and prayer are not needed because God will simply make you perfect with absolutely no effortI never said such thing. yes, its no effort for God, but he drags you along.>God cannot and will not do it for you, because he loves you too much to coddle you in that way.then there is nothing left but your own works and righteousness which is like filthy rags.we are to work out our salvation in FEAR and TREMBLING, for it is God that works in us for his good pleasure. this involves God and You.
>>545138954Christians started the abolitionist and feminist movements illiterate and
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Maybe they don't want to be ruled over by jews like we are....
Every country needs to have thisJewish ideology spreads either through grooming, ignorance or trauma. Usually all three.
>>545136854Are you that assblasted Russian that constantly criticizes Japan (which is superior to your country) and praises chinks because of some inferiority complex you have or are you someone else?
>>545140822Just going to tell my kid to say the pastor touched them sweetie
>>545153203>subhumanWHY do you call irreligious people "subhuman"?? Do you want to murder us?
>>545136609Not only does God exist but he also programmed humans to believe in him into our DNA. Surely your mammoth IQ could calculate that throughout history every human society believing in God couldn't possibly be a coincidence.Repeated reality proves the rule - it's on the skeptic to prove God doesn't exist, not the other way around.
>>545134670Jews thrive on fear and nothing works better than telling a child he better listen or suffer for eternity
that's just what a 1st world country does
>>545137174Lived in Japan for a few years. I’m not denying this. This is the cold truth.
>>545153132That was back when he still had a temple.
>>545134670Japan is a godless nation, this is obvious to anyone. That being said, Christianity is not their culture.
The jew-worshipper fears the samurai.
>>545137048That's absurd. What level of empathy a child develops is pretty much random and religion plays no defined role in it.How do I know? Extremely high level of inherent empathy before I had any understanding of religion whatsoever.I don't think all children take the threat of hell serious either; at least not for long.>you need better arguments eventually>like laws that you get directly punished for breaking>or whooping the little bastard's ass because he fucked up real badThe entire idea of telling a child to wait until it goes to hell is utterly ridiculous.>they can't defer eating a candy bar for even ten minutes, even if they know they'd get a second one should they wait out that timeAre we there yet? Are we there yet?>STFU or you'l go to hell in 78 years (except not really, no clue, no authority, just parroting some psyop shit because their parenting failed)
>>545143627>>the literal English word "hell" is completely absent from the original texts of the Bible.Did you know that Shakespeare didn't pen the Russian word "perestroika" even once when he was writing A midsummer night's dream? Pretty telling, imo.
>>545145740>>545145595Call me pessimistic, but I feel like it's just going to switch to Vance or whoever will carry the MAGA bullshit next. At this point MAGA may as well be a separate political party outside of republicans and democrats. Or it will absorb pre-Trump republican stances so they will merge completely.
>>545134670good thing in islam there is no hell and only beheading. children are saved from trauma!@
>>545155110Unfortunately this goes way deeper.Israelite religion hardly had an afterlife at all, and Judaism also does not, at least not a properly codified, comfy or generous one like heaven, and even Gehenna is just a boring, empty wasteland, no fiery torture dungeon.Final judgement? Resurrection of the dead? Existed only as vague concepts or in isolated sects (which Christianity started out as: a sect of the Israelite religion).So Christianity promises a whole lot (gotta attract those converts) but very little of it makes sense or is coherent; again, take the afterlife for instance; what does the Christian afterlife look like?>nobody knows and there's countless different angles to itNevermind this entire apocalyptic doomsday cult thing Christianity had going (and that Israelites were quite fond of in general). They expected the Final Judgement to be right around the corner in the first century (and many times/all the time after).Explains why that shit is all over the place, and a complete theological disaster.>they were tripping balls, with Roman Legionaires chasing them
Look at the deal the Israelites originally got. It's a pretty raw one.>become the chosen people elevated over all others (slightly, sometimes)>but only if you follow random hardcore rules to the fucking letter and cut the tip of your dick off>should you lapse it's apocalypse timePass.
>>545155649the ancient israelites had sheol (the grave, soul sleep) and the resurrection from the dead, their faith was based on the Messiah who undoes death as was promised in Genesis 3 to Adam and Eve. thats what they believed in.modern judaism follows the gnostic teaching of the divine spark, where you reincarnate until the great work is accomplished where "God" is one again reunited with all his divine sparks into one.gehenna was a place in jerusalem where the inhabitants would burn their trash, dead animal etc. this is what Jesus likened "hell" to, the burning up of the wicked tares.mainstream hell were you go and burn forever as it is taught today was never a concept for ancient israelites or is biblical true in any form or manner.there are those that are resurrected into eternal life, and those that are resurrected to be burned up and destroyed forever. God doesnt sustain people eternally to be tortured forever. Jesus talks about the second death of the soul, not eternal punishment.
>>545156151>the resurrection from the deadBut of uncertain scope. They didn't expect every person (or even just israelite) who has ever lived to be suddenly reconstructed by nanobots.I give it to them: they are a pragmatic bunch. What did God promise them? Eternal life? Magic powers? Orgasming from handholding in heaven for 10000 years straight?No. That's not how their faith is oriented: it's materialistic and secular:>God promised them world dominationBit of a cliche. There was no talk about people living forever or being resurrected. In fact the idea of resurrection was quite alien to most people in those days.>they weren't totally retarded and consequently knew that dead people generally stay deadAlso the question of what persisted after death? With the Israelites that essentially was a specter, an impotent seething wraith. That's not a whole lot of fun, so naturally some coping happened, like the specialest of specialist special jews getting special dispensation to.. basically be a ghost somewhere more pleasant - well actually not quite, but being near God - which is not necessarily good.In fact bad souls cannot survive in the presence of The Lord.>they get obliterated utterly with a sheer glanceRemember, a fucking mountain exploded, hydrogen bomb style, because the mountain witnessed The Lord's full splendor.>this is not a joke, but scriptureBeing in the presence of God the Almighty is supremely fatal unless you're perfectly pure and turbochosen.>which makes the idea of Christian heaven quite ridiculousThis knowledge is important to actually interprete Jesus' teachings correctly.
>>545156801>>God promised them world dominationhe never promised that to israel. the land they were given was only conditional, thats why they were brought into exile when they disobeyed. God doesnt play favorites and he makes that clear.>Also the question of what persisted after death? With the Israelites that essentially was a specter, an impotent seething wraith. That's not a whole lot of fun, so naturally some coping happened, like the specialest of specialist special jews getting special dispensation to.. basically be a ghost somewhere more pleasant - well actually not quite, but being near God - which is not necessarily good.bodily resurrection and life in Eden. floating around God like a ghost is made up garbage that was spread by roman catholocism with zero basis in scripture.the resurrection life is on a new paradise earth with Jesus Christ who is God, just like it was before the fall.>Being in the presence of God the Almighty is supremely fatal unless you're perfectly pure and turbochosen.thats why you receive a resurrection body of glory and not a body of humiliation like we have now.
>>545134670Based.
>>545137048You are supremely ignorant.
>>545134670You can't distress a kid for religious sake. You can tell them the wager for sinning and reaping an eternity of damnation and the kid will put 2 and 2 together when being righteous or being a little prick. Nips do that shit with Shinto and Buddhist faith too.
>>545157079I mean yeah, join his club but then run afoul of his rules and you're fucked, quite possibly fucked worse than some random bushman with no inkling of religion.That's where the entire "god fearing" thing comes from.>God was (is?) super fucking scary>Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world.The Trinity may have been the way they fixed God, turned him into the wussy he is now (in Christianity, basically doing nothing for 300 million years until the Final Judgement actually finally happens, and then he forgives you everything and you do not get vaporized by his thermonuclear aura - although in some schools God may, optionally at his discretion, only vaporize your bad parts; which presumably is the origin of this entire purgatory thing.>God incinerates the absolute fuck out of you until only the perfectly good parts remain, if any>a new paradise earthThe World to Come is a popular variant, for sure, and a fairly old idea, but the idea of reconstituting people's bodies already was a stretch back then; though maybe people simply are born again; in fact the entire creation process may start over and run much the same, just not tainted by evil this time.There's also the matter of dormancy. Iirc the dead in israelite religion are essentially dormant, unless they are super angry, because the ghost floating around thing did exist, similar and possibly inspired by Greek beliefs, but this is unimportant considering the era this influence occured. And the others, without a body? Being allowed into the presence of The Lord also is a very old idea, much like that being fatal to bad people is. The obvious highest goal that few could hope to attain,
>>545136609this. Fuck all of you christcucks
>>545157773Telling them Santa will put them on his naughty list is far more effective.Need even more impact? Krampus.
>>545158040>but then run afoul of his rulesthe 10 commandments exist for the benefit of yourself.
>>545158119You can even do the same with Spiderman or ceiling cat, but this is religion dogma, not some entertainment fiction in the modern era.
>>545134670japs being based as usual
I've come up with a theory to explain jews' parasitism on the West:It is my belief that the Israelite religion as it was understood in Christ's day and later was the product of a reactionary movement.It is obvious that polytheism was alive and well in Iudea around 300BCE - there was no monotheism before that time, at best monolatry in fringe groups.Presumably its formation began some time after the return from Babylonian exile, at the Persian's behest, and drawing from that, but importantly:>there were many different "jewish" groups/cults with variant beliefs and, in fact obviously, there was no central authority of Israelite religion after the fall of the state and abduction of the (then also still polytheist) elite - and when they returned they were an entirely different groupNaturally they tried to reestablish themselves, but encountered competition in those who remained, and had to contend with Persian influence, which only increased the diversity of beliefs and lack of cohesion; a time of internal power struggles and (enduring chaos).Then the Greeks showed up and colonized them, demonstrating a vastly superior intellectual culture and religion (than their version of near civil war polytheism chaos); this caused those previously struggling elite groups to lose power;and this was the seed. Some groups consolidated around resistance to Greek domination, and eventually you can roughly divide them into greekified Israelite polytheists and proto-monotheists who tried to preserve/establish their own identity, which shifted towards some extremes, and importantly: made the Greeks, and later Romans, Christianity and the West a necessary for juxtaposition.>the not-us they formed against became required for their identityWhich was later repeated in that the surviving jews picked the Pharisee school to emulate.>Antichristianity
>>545159931cont.It was during that period of Greek domination and cultural imperialist pressure that they started rewriting/retconning their books (open historic knowledge that they did exacty that during those years), to pretend they had always been monotheists (or monolatrists, rather, because initially it was EXTREMELY unhealthy to tell Polytheists (99% of people) that their Gods don't fucking exist at all.>quick way to learn about the afterlifeThey then proceeded to gradually displace/eradicate polytheism as described in scripture (just later/more recently) and made Judeans more or less synonymous with exclusive JHWH worship by the first century BCE.
The Crustian god is a fag and the Japs don't need his bullshit because they have the Shintoes and Goku
>>545137174Bloody benchod! Lol @ everyone not realizing this is a copypasta about Indians… /Pol/ is cooked /senpai/
>>545160484Goddamn it I got janny fairy tricked.
>>545140031Asians are status people so they probably helped you so you looked less shit for their kid to be around
>>545160779It's your mode of qualifying empathy that is faulty.Empathy is very real, but fundamentally it just means you get bothered by unfamiliar people crying or dying or looking retarded. Caring about familiar people, especially family, naturally has a totally different dynamic.On the other hand there are nice things people do for a reward, like updoots on their retarded libshit reddit post, those poor immigrants, or treating someone nicely and helping them because you want to be treated nicely and helped in turn.>the Golden Rule is not an empathy matterAnd even the Christian who does good deeds and then feels good about said deeds assured of his good boy points in the afterlife, is not acting on empathy but warped self-interest; and the Bible does in fact address this very behavior.
>>545134670Based Japan protecting their kids from psychosis
>>545139373Funny stuff saying that there's no room for foreign religions and then including bhuddism
>>545134670Memeflag=niggerGod doesnt exist
>>545154849Please understand sarcasm
>>545162496It's far more absurd than this. Simply consider how many Christians were killed by Christians in some form of organized manner.>nobody killed more Christians than Christians did, by a long shot>???
>>545162643It's still within the limits of what a /pol/tard may post unironically, but I admit it looks like sarcasm.
>>545162464so you believe that while posting this >>545162528which mentions nothing at all of itweird
>>545134670UNFATHOMABLY basedit absolutely is psychological abuse
>>545134670https://rumble.com/v75mvsc-insomnia-stream-jewish-alamo-edition.html
>>545134670Japan is the best country in the world.>leads the world in life expectancy>lery high quality of life>very low crime>very low circumcision rate>No jews>technologically advanced>most intelligent people in the world (Japan has the world's highest average IQ)
>>545134670>threateningIf I tell you not to go in the tiger enclosure at the zoo because the tiger will fucking eat you, does that mean I'm threatening you?
>>545138967in reality, you become worm food and you are remembered for your deeds
>>545134670Doesn't matter, they ruled that they can band religions for these things so if you spread it you can ban anything, get on it
>>545134670It's not a threat. Hell is real and people need to know about it. Yes, Satan wants you thinking it's cute or doesn't exist. It exists alright. And it's an eternity of torment and agony. You definitely should be afraid of hell.
>>545153978>Throughout history the threat of violence has been an effective control mechanism.Installing the belief in punishment in hell into someone's brain is just a more subliminal version of threatening their life with a big club.
>>545134670japan is baste for once
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>>545167508My understanding from the Dante's Inferno video game I played 10+ years ago is that if you don't know you still go to purgatory instead of heaven, so telling him is the priest's attempt to get him to go to heaven.
>>545169469That was just fanfiction made up by Dante, along with all the other levels of hell
>>545134670Literally sick of japs. Irrelevant morons.
>>545169469purgartory is a late middle age invention.
>>545167508Inuit man has a cellphone and trades with the white man in the closest town. He is aware of Christ.
>>545134670They are insectoids just like chinks.
>>545134670why?shouldn't you threaten your kids with punishment for doing something bad?on the average people are retards, it stands to reason that convincing them of a looming threat of punishment if they do immoral things that they could otherwise get away with, leads to a better society overall, no?
>>545134670Based. Total Abrahamic Death. Stomp their fucking skulls in and send them to their jewish heavens
but they can't be evil they made anime and can I go to Yahweh now
>>545136847Where is here meme flaggot?
>>545165799The tiger is real. Hell is a lie that is parroted with the intent of scaring you instead of protecting you.
>>545136952>>545138174Christianity is nonsense. Christcucks necessarily believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day and bring billions of the dead back to life. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.You're much better off worshipping Columbina. Buy a plushie in Akihabara and offer her a loaf of bread. I'll see you at Kanda jinja.
>>545144853Kek
>>545134670>Is this fake news or do they really hate God?Neither. It isn't really even a hurdle for evangelizing to not mention hell. Evangelist literally means a bringer of good news. To evangelize is to tell the good news of Christ, Salvation, and the ressurection of the dead. It's ridiculous to think this law will affect Christians.
>>545136891>buddha floats down from the sky with dancing sluts to take you to heaventhat's just ghibli kaguya
Better mutilate them at birth so they will be thieving schizo pieces of shit all their lives, that's more enlightened.
>>545136609This post and it replies are good for seeing which of our vassal states we should fuck over next.
>>545137174Why do you need a semitic god threatening you with an eternity of torment to behave yourself as a decent person?
>>545137455Jesus says to give the shirt off your back if someone else needs it.
>>545136891No. This is not true. You need to brush up on ethics.
>>545136907Children are innocent. If you threaten them with heaven, will they be more likely to go to heaven? They are blank slates that absorb what you give them.
>>545137455Yeah, it says you will go to hell if you fail to help a person that asks for help.
>>545136609this
>>545150808the BLM bullshit and the amount of people that fell for it, proves this retard wrong.People are much more foolish and dumb now, than they were in the past.
>>545151130>doesn't mention CatholicsJews could not have accomplished what they have accomplished without Catholics.And it is important to make the distinction between Catholics and Christians.
>>545151874Muslims are jew-liteBoth Jews and Muslims need to be exterminated.
>>545153505This is an interesting predicament that isn't good for children but once a human is grown up makes sense. Finding the strength to love hateful people might save you from their punishment. I think that higher power depicted in that comic is closer to a demon, though. Just an old guy that is big. Beatings continue until morale improves. It's rough. Young people dont learn anything from punishments, they need a lot of guidance to do the right thing in the real world. But people will say it's genetic, when it's ancestors that have built up lots of life lessons.
>>545162464How about the part where he healed everyone, the most important part? Getting mistaken for a pedophile so that people on /pol/ can distrust the point of Christianity and get confused by mortals' corruption, good grief!
>>545136609I agree. Especially Satanist. Fuck them the most
Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are indeed forms of psychological abuse no matter the age. I don't want to hear christians crying anymore about being the eternal victims, you brought it upon yourselves by always being whiny and arrogant and pushy and cucked.
