any recs for a hat with brim ideally somewhere between a bucket hat and a cowboy hatlooking for sun protection from all angles (not baseball cap), but can be put in a bag easily (so not leather/straw)
People leave me alone on trails.It's peaceful
>>2872177that one you posted, nigga.Tilleys are the best.
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There's a 20 inch diameter lamp shade hat on Amazon. I wear it
>>2872184>Tilleys>$100wtf, I'm sure they last a long time but what makes a hat made out of cotton cost this much?
>>2872177If it aint leather, it won't take the weather. Make sure you use wax, or oil, and remove the soil. Rain, wind or shine, my leather hat is just fine.
>>2872220Lifetime guarantee and their quality. They are one of those companies who will send you a new hat if something goes wrong with the one you bought. Also, a specialized product 'invented' for the sailing market. They are made for extremely windy conditions and stay on your head in bad weather.
I have the tilley sun cape hat but they discontinued it.
aren't tilleys all made in China now? i tried one of the Chinese ones and the metal grommets for the string came out. garbage build quality.
>>2872245They have some that are made in Canada still. I think just the heritage models.
>>2872239I see, the lifetime guarantee alone makes the price worth it, especially when a company has shown to be serious about it through the years
>>2872239>>2872270>lifetime guaranteeoh neat, will take a lookwhat are the metal circles for?
>>2872278vents
>>2872177For me? It's Outback Trading Co. https://www.outbacktrading.com/collections/hats
>>2872227As a profuse sweater, how would a leather hat stop from getting gooey and moldy?
>>2872290Usually a fabric band is sewn into the interior.
>>2872290Wearing a bandana under the hat will help but not much else you can do except cut more holes in the hat for breathability. Or move to a cold climate and sweat less.
>>2872284The oilskin ones look like nice, legit /out/ hats.>>2872292>>2872293Thnx for the answers, bros
>>2872177Some variety of boonie hat?
This is the new /out/ meta for seriously sunny and hot areast. Desert forest janny
>>2872305Do you get bothered by flies? Why the close coverage?This hat >>2872243 looks better for a desert to me, but I don't live in a desert.
>>2872305I just ordered an Outdoors Research brim hat, the one with insect repellant, hopefully it's good
>>2872310Its about having no sun/skin contact, not bugs. I havent used sunscreen in years. I also wear sungloves to protect the back of my hands
>>2872298sure, that looks about right - any reccs?
>>2872376Not that anon but I use the varusteleka boonie. It's got a hidden drawstring around the crown so it stays secure on my giant head without needing to use the chin strap.
this guy is only 10 good boy points, tempted to pull the trigger for shigs and maybe use at halloween>>2872381the non camo ones look nice, honestly im only leaning towards tillys atm for their replacement/warranty thingy
>>2872376Milsurp is fine. Haven't looked for better.
>>2872177I bought a pith helmet as a joke (was taking archaeology classes at the time), but it's unironically a great fucking hat.>full sun protection>can soak in water for extra cooling>pith frame acts like a pseudo hard hat--no pain bumping into branches or rocks
>>2872305>>2872314Are you an Asian woman? Why are you afraid of sunshine? I never use sunscreen either, a full brim hat is good enough.>>2872177Summers in Arizona I use a straw cowboy hat I bought at a farm store for $30. I used shoe glue to add a used sweatband. If I'm going somewhere cooler or with potentially bad weather I use a truck tarp Aussie hat. I used leather boot laces to add stamped straps to both.https://www.afroblonde.com.au/collections/headwear/products/digger-hat
>>2872465i rate the commitment to the bitstill looking to fit it into a bag tho, so will need something that can be folded up/made smaller when needed
>>2872482>Are you an Asian woman? Why are you afraid of sunshine?some of us have european ancestry, patel. if you interact with family regularly, as a caucasoid, you'll notice the pattern of elderly relatives routinely going under the knife to get pieces of cancerous skin removed.i dunno about those anons, but i kind of treat it like "don't drink to excess" and "wear a helmet on the motorcycle".
>>2872482>Are you an Asian woman? Why are you afraid of sunshine?Partly for not having to use/carry sunscreen, but also for heat. The single biggest thing keeping you cool in heat is keeping sun off your skin. If you regularly go /out/ (and work) in 100+ highs you need all you can get. Bedouin mode.And wide brim hats dont work on your lower face and neck in the morning/afternoon even full sombreros have trouble unless you face the right way. And even harder to do if you are doing work bending over and shit.
>>2872495Melanoma is caused by habitual use of sunscreen and other chemicals dumb boomers put on their skin and poor diet, which reacts with uv rays. It's a failure of the lymphatic system because it's been clogged. It's not the sun's fault. Most of the melanoma cases I know, the growth wasn't even in exposed areas. Furthermore, the japs discovered putting olive oil on after exposure reduces antioxidants, cancerous cells, etc by over half.>>2872499>Beduin modeRemind me what the average IQ of a dune coon is? They cover the face to protect from sand not sun. Larperators wear those smegma scarves to look cool. Unless it's soaked it won't cool them off, it just insulated the arteries in the neck which is dumb. Besides which, you wearing charcoal grey polyester in the heat is not going to keep you cooler than a khaki safari shirt. And you look like an antifa troon starting forest fires.
>>2872504>Melanoma is caused by habitual use of sunscreen and other chemicals dumb boomers put on their skini've been saying this for years. zinc oxide is TOXIC and not only will it give you cancer but it is also responsible for autism. there's a reason our ancestors practiced perineum sunning, and why you should be doing it every day.see:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X19305371i don't know if it's so much the sun's fault as much as it is the loss of the genetic pathway for gadusol synthesis hundreds of millions of years ago. our rat-like mammal ancestors were adapted to a nocturnal foraging lifestyle to avoid predation by therapods. all other vertebrates produce this molecule to protect them from UV damage, but not mammals, unfortunately. it got worse when we gradually lost the fur that once covered our skin, and even worse when us ubermensch lost our melanin pigmentation. that is, unfortunately, the white man's burden. thanks for sharing your ideas though. always great to chat with a fellow space cadet.
>>2872506I don't think it's the zinc oxide necessarily. Most sunscreens are full of other carcinogens like benzine compounds. J&j had a multimillion dollar recall for sunscreen in 2020. But nobody heard about it because of covid.>linkI'm not sure what a poop knife has to do with butthole suning. However there are photoreceptors in the testicles. >always great to chat with a fellow space cadet.See you in Agartha>>2872305And if you're going to go Bedouin mode, at least try to look cool like Laurence of Arabia. Then capture a wild donkey to ride.
>>2872504Bedouins do cover their face for sun, not just sand, but also for uv protection, for preventing moisture loss from wind, and for insulation from heat especially when the air temp is above body temp. I do the same things, and really I have to cover up to avoid sunscreen and not burn. That photo isnt me anyway. You should stop stressing about antifa bogeymen so much.
>>2872506There's been actual clinical research done and it's found that Neutrogena, which uses avobenzone instead of zinc oxide, is both more effective AND much safer than zinc-based sunscreens. The only real downsides are price and that it doesn't last as long but IMO it's worth it for the benefits.
>>2872305zodiac looking motherfucker. try not to get shot pls, take care anon.
>>2872243i only see elderly asian women wear thesethey look based though
Have you considered going Canadian, anon? I keep a field maneuvers cap with my hunting gear. It doesn't have a huge brim but it's light, breathable, can be soaked to cool down, rolled and stuffed in a pocket.
>>2873227not OP but that hat looks useless for protection
>>2873227>>2873237yeah nah that would barely shade my forehead if thati need B R I M
>>2872873I like the huge golf caps asian women wear sometimes
>>2873333>wide brimmed>can be folded>lightweightnigga you just described a boonie hat
You'll have to pick a compromise due to your constraints. Straw hats are the best hands down for direct sun and ventilation but cannot fold. Boonie hats are great at blocking sunlight and are packable but dont have great ventilation. A trucker hat has great ventilation and packs well but doesn't block much direct sunlight. You'll have to pick a quality you are willing to sacrifice.
>>2872381Why did you not opsec your poor pooch?
postin'
>>2873985Sexy. What brand?
>>2874013Read the filename.
>>2872177>can be put in a bag easily (so not leatherGet a Squashy from Barmah Hats, they have a spring in the brim so you can fold them down for storage but they just pop back into shape after. It's still leather though so you obviously don't want to crush the absolute shit out of it in a pack that's crammed to the tits. And they come in kangaroo leather, mine is cow though so i don't know if kangaroo is superior or notIf you want to avoid leather entirely though just get a Tilley hat, they last forever
>>2873983The little fucker is already chipped by the government, there's nothing I can do to protect him any more
>>2872245I own two myself and both are made in Canada. The fully cotton ones are made in Canada I believe, it's the synthetics that come from China
>>2874058I have one of those in kangaroo leather, and it's great. I originally only bought it to use for cowboy action shooting and going to country music concerts, but it's been great on hikes too. Maybe a cotton hat would be lighter, but it's nothing that bothers me.
Nice coincidence that this thread was up. I came to /out/ today specifically looking for hat recommendations and ended up ordering a Tilley T3 Classic (the Canadian made cotton one). They're on sale for $80 USD currently.
>>2873985his face makes me smile
>>2872239What I hate about Tilleys is that they are fucking Tilleys. The same fucking Tilley that every other fucking middle aged boomer wears.
>>2872504>Melanoma is caused by habitual use of sunscreen and other chemicalsStop reposting bullshit.
>>2872314Eliminating seed oils from your diet will largely reduce sunburn.
>>2874612boomers also wear underwear and sneakersyoull be a middle aged boomer one day too
check out failsworth
are these hats supposed to sit on top of your head or go fully in?
>>2874902Personal preference
>>2872177>/out/hats/
>>2875375ay caramba
Can't beat it
>>2872177we're out on a range today, not *the* range, but *a* range
>>2872177>>2872184Tilley T3 is a great hat. On my second. First one lasted 10+ abusive years of almost daily use.
Mesh top hats are the best for high sweat. They're ultra breathable. I would only use a leather hat in the winter.
>>2875459No pooftas
>>2872465Can confirm; I also have a pith helmet.People WILL look at you funny, but it's genuinely a great hat for hot environments. The British weren't wearing these things in Africa and India just for memes.
I've got this one I bought recently in Ukraine because the sun was burning my head. It's a Fjall Raven. Has a chin strap and is comfy. Cost me about £50 though. Hiking gear is fucking expensive there.
>>2872181fake chinese shit. real ones haven't been produced since trump first got elected
if you want BIFL quality check out Failsworth hats. UK company so a bit hard to get in the US, but well worth importing.
>>2872177Tilley made of cotton duck fibers. It floats. It’s crushable. It’s washable. Doesnt get smelly. It’s the ideal /out/ hat
>>2873227I love my Canadian boonie hat, Remember if the women dont find ya handsome they should at least find ya handy.
>>2872305Be careful anon you kind of look like a cartel courier.
>>2873657Now make it light wool and im sold
