Mine is totally underrated. But the water is bad. There are many super accessible /out/ options, yet there are hardly any people. The state is insulted and overlooked, but that's the way I like it.

>>2869708
I live in Texas. Its absolute hell for /out/ because there's so little public land. Also it gets hot as Satan's asshole during the summer.
Probably 4/10. At least what there is to see has a some variety.

>>2869708
Central Michigan sucks because you have to drive like an hour to go anywhere that isn't a tiny state game area or a paved trail with a billion normies on it. But you can't beat the UP, it's just so desolate and lacking in people, I love it.

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North Holland
Probably 2/10
>Amsterdam in the way
>no elevation
>if not in city there is farm land
>quite few cycle and walking trails but there's a shit load of people using them
>a few man made forests but overcrowded
>probably need a boat if you want to feel /out/ at all

>>2869708
>Southern Oregon
>heaven on earth/10
we're full though, sorry.

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>>2870780 >>2871677

8.5/10
>amazing recreational areas anywhere in the province for any sport/activity
>places worth visiting in dense and sparsely populated areas
>90% of our roads are unpaved (over 1 million kms)
>cleanest water in the world
>best fishing in the world
>amazing motorcycle riding
>a bazillion bodies of water

cons
>too expensive if you want to live in places with moderate weather (changing soon)
>too fucking rocky

>>2869774
My wife and I honeymooned in the UP in the off-season and it was amazing. I'd love to go back and rent a cabin on Lake Superior.

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4/10
9/10 if you're ocean faring
7/10 if you can drive a few hours

>>2870702
>changing soon

Lmao

>>2870702
BC is a beautiful province but the weather is terrible and unironically worse than the prairies, too expensive, and the people are some of the unfriendly and stuck-up on the planet esp. Lower Mainland + Vancouver island.

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>>2869708
Alberta 9/10
>alpine
>foothills
>grassland
>prairie
>big game
>cryptids
>good soil
>large public-use land
>minimal poisonous creatures

cons
>no ocean
>baseball-sized hail
>occasional droughts

>>2871677
>the weather is terrible and unironically worse than the prairies
I live in the prairies and fuck no it isn't. -40C in the winter followed by +35C in the summer is fucking awful. And now we also get a shitton of tornadoes every year.

>>2870551
full of junkies and trannies

>>2870551
yep, this anon is right. it's so fucking terrible here. i pray to god every day that i could live somewhere better.
please please please, if you are considering coming this way, even to visit, go somewhere else, anywhere else is better.

Do yourself a favor and just stay away!

>>2869708
Quetico is great and Woodland Caribou is better, I like Onterrible.

>>2869708
>South part is overcrowded and dull
Ontarians have the weirdest sense of direction. Wawa and Kenora are God-tier /out/.

>>2869708
california here
can only say shit for fishing related things
saltwater: 7/10
>pretty decent
>some idiotic rules for things, mostly understandable
>fine as long as if you know what you're doing.
freshwater: 4/10
>you need a boat
>a lot of the rivers are bordered by private land.
>public spots are overpressured to hell or in the middle of nowhere or there's a lot of homeless people.
>impressive fishing if you have a boat, pretty lackluster without
>weird rules (read: difference between chumming and packbait)
overall: 5/10 without boat, 7/10 with boat

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holy subhumans

>>2871677
Yeah I've lived in the prairies and in several places in BC and the prairies are far worse weatherwise.
Weather on the BC coast in spring, summer, and fall is about as good as it gets in Canada.
Unless you're complaining about the winter rain or something, which is still preferable to -40 and whiteout blizzard conditions.

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>>2869708
I live in South Australia bro its so over for me, this entire state is just 90% desert, dry as fuck and if I want to hike anywhere other than the Adelaide hills I have to drive hours. I miss Sydney, I miss the Blue Mountains I grew up in. This is hell.

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>>2873739

Absolute best state/region on earth for /out/, nothing really compares.

>Unlimited outdoor potential for any sport.
>At least 6 climate zones any time of year.
>Can go surfing, rock climbing, hiking and skiing in the same day with around 2.5 hours drive time.
>Best MTB trails, hiking, high Sierra, rock climbing, Mountaineering, Surfing, thousands of miles of backcountry dirt roads.
>free camping everywhere.
>Solitide everywhere within an hour of major populations even.
>Fishing, hunting, a million lakes.

Cons:
>Too many liberals fucking everything up.
>Price of admission.

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>>2880419

8/10
Bulgaria Oblast.
The locals are just so damned nice. homemade fruit moonshine. Live and let live. No one gives a shit if you hunt or fish without a license. Or build a camp in the forest. No one leaves their known areas, meaning there's acres of free to use land, since the equivalent of 'state park cops' don't venture further than 5min from the nearest tavern of their area. gold panning is free to do. weirdly diverse looking scenic spots for such a small country.

>>2871677
Lmao we'll trade you our weather any time

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>>2869708
Ontario has to be at least a 7 or 8, we have the best part of Lake Superior around Sleeping Giant and Pukaskwa. Bruce Peninsula might be the best part of Huron.

Plus really good paddling routes and I know it's hard to get up there but we have the Hudson's Bay region with subarctic conditions.

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>>2880183

10/10, we got almost every kind of terrain to camp in.

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>>2883571

>mostly just farms in the south but woodsy in the north
>decent hunting
>great lake shores are beautiful
>cool gorges and cliffs in the southwest near la crosse, but nothing super special
>mosquito hell
6/10

>>2871778
How seriously do they fuck up the out experience?

>>2873739
Californias population has been ruining it for literal centuries

Read "Two Years Before the Mast" and Dana says exactly the same thing about them two centuries ago.

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niagara bro, can we nuke toronto?

>>2870751
Agreed. I am Canadian but did my first job there. Beautiful in fall but the season is short

>>2869708
are those area codes or mountain heights?

Québec
We have great mountains
We have ocean
We have farm land
We a stable government
We haven't seen war for centuries
We have amazing lakes
We have forests
We have real winters
We have gorgeous women
We have great food

If OP thinks Ontario is 6.5, I'd have to give Québec 8/10 because we don't have BC-quality mountains and the ocean is annoying to get to, and is overrun with tourists in summer.

>>2872172
not possible to be a 10/10 with no ocean access

>>2869708
Georgia (US), 6/10. The Appalachians are better than not having mountains at all but everything else is garbage, even the beaches suck since the water is all muddy and gross.

>>2869744
I came back to this thread, not sure if I posted, to find that I posted first. Still happy with how underrated my state is.
A local fishibg YouTuber is slightly famous. People in the comments are asking him where he's fishing and telling him he's blessed to have such good fishing. Meanwhile, most locals who have something to say are usually bitching about the quality of the fishing here. It's hilarious.

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>>2869708
>Saltwater fishing some of the best in the country but our fisheries are horribly mismanaged and could be the best on earth if not for our corrupt ass state government
>Freshwater fishing is good in the far east and west
>Hunting sucks ass, we have a long deer season but there is no public land in the parts where people actually live and what little there is gets so crowded you might as well just write off weekend hunting.
>Lots of squirrels though
>Pine savannahs in the east are heavenly places to hike in the cooler months
>Great coastal parks and barrier islands
>Appalachia is straight up dog shit for hiking, yeah it's cool outside for parts of the year but the good trails are crowded and there are generally only interesting vistas at the end of trails.
>Afaik all of our beaches have public access
>Gets more crowded and expensive every year
>Doing anything innawoods is fucking miserable from the heat and bugs June through August
>Winters mild enough outside of the mountains you can do all the innawoods you want

All in all 6.5/10 we're still better than Virginia and South Carolina and Tennessee.

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>>2871787
Sounds comfy

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>>2869708
2/10
>prices suck on everything but corn
>billion acres of flat farmland makes it unreasonably hot in spring/summer
>recreationally mostly just private owned campgrounds
>public fishing holes are overfished/river fish are inedible in some places
>anything north of Urbana is no man's land filled with subhumans and enablers

>>2869708
>South part is overcrowded and dull compared to rest of the continent
Overcrowded sure, but Southern Ontario is seriously underrated. The Niagara River is beautiful, several parts of the Bruce Trail are beautiful (thousand year old Cedars clinging to cliffs are awe inspiring), the waterfalls/trail systems surrounding Hamilton are great and the trails there give me feels that I don't get elsewhere.

>>2871706
oh cool, another anon who's been to woodland caribou. my dad would take me up there on a fishing/canoeing trip every year from the ages of like... 12-15 I think? pretty sure at that time (around the latter half of the 2010s) only a couple hundred people visited yearly. absolutely the best fishing I've ever experienced. found 6.5 to be a ridiculous rating based on that alone

>>2873732
having grown up in the north I'd also give it a six. glacial topography can be cool, hunting's alright, fishing's fine. actually the fishing is extremely good if you're a native fish hobbiest as I am (& especially was when I lived there). the other states I've lived in are Montana & fucking Alaska which I'd give like an eight & a ten respectively so it doesn't quite measure up in the end

>>2883570
I made it there once in ‘23 and have been trying to organize another trip, but our group has had 4 weddings over the last 3 years and now some births, so organizing a 2 week absence from society is getting harder.

>>2883599
that's too bad. did you fly in or canoe in?