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    Who was in the wrong?
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    >>29136508
    Wrong? Everything looks good here. Nothing to see here drive along.
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    The motorcyclist was in the wrong. You can clearly see at the moment of impact the cyclist was on his side of the road.
    That being said, human visual psychology has a concept called "target fixation." You sense danger (when the cyclist was crossing the line), and you inadvertently steer towards it instead of away from it.

    It doesn't excuse the motorcyclist, but the crash wouldn't have happened if the cyclists were on their side of the road the whole time.
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    >>29136508
    the motorbiker

    you see how that idiot straightens out before impact? Could have simply leaned and avoided it
    >t. motorbiker
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    >>29136508
    Those retards riding childrens toys on a public road.
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    >>29136508
    Dude swung wide by not leaning enough / kept the throttle open (causes a wider radius) he also probably target fixated on the cyclists when they entered his vision making him go to them.

    He could've added some rear brake to tighten the turn radius, keep his eyes on the corner exit not the cyclists, and actuated the throttle instead of freezing up on an open loud handle
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    >>29136508
    pink shirt in position D was in the wrong, if she had been in position C the guy wouldn't have been on the wrong side of the road, causing the inexpert braking of the motorbike that caused the collision
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    >>29136584

    I don't think this is so much target fixation and more panic and brake. Which makes a bike righten and hence straighten it's path.
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    >>29137043
    are you fucking retarded?

    they arent in a fucking ww2 fighter squadron to keep formation...
    and idk how yo explain to you that the most efficient way to cycle is to have the guy infront push to break the air, while the others "rest", and they rotate around so everyone helps.

    not every group of cyclists starts as a group, it could be just 2 random cyclists heading the same way, so they get togther to make it easier for eachother...
    I have had times when I notice someone behind me, slow down, then I let him draft me to make it easier for him, as it costs me nothing, sometimes we even start rotating
    OPs webm seems like its just a couple overtaking another couple
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    >>29137048
    Nah, the dude went in way too hot and kept the throttle open which makes your radius wider. He looked at the cyclists and as such went to them without altering any inputs. He didn't panic brake, he didn't even try anything until impact.

    It's a scooterfag so it's no suprise the idiot crashed. Most people who get on those things have no skill
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    >>29136508
    We have a webm general for stupid posts like this.
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    >>29137134
    Cyclists were all going the same speed and even if they were passing you don't need to give six feet of space, especially if it'd push you into the oncoming lane.
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    >>29136508
    Why does everything look gook here? Everyone was wrong
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    >>29136508
    you for posting this
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    >>29137206
    >Cyclists were all going the same speed
    you cannot tell from the video
    >if they were passing you don't need to give six feet of space
    just cus you are an asshole and pass cyclists without giving them space doesnt mean they shouldnt
    >especially if it'd push you into the oncoming lane.
    ah yes, unlike bikers, which are free to go into the opposite lane whenever they please and look at >>29136584

    moron
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    >>29136890
    Not a real motorcycle if it's CVT or DCT hard locked. That is clearly a faggio Continuously-VaginaLess -Trans
    I can tell by the pixels
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    >>29137555
    yeah I didn't notice it was a scoot last night when I was drunkposting
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    >>29136584
    You can use the whole road if there's no one else on it. I don't care what a gay law says, we pay for it and can use it. Issues only arise when another person is using the road also, then we should be on our own sides. The bicyclist had enough time to get back to his side, the motorcyclist went far into their side.
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    >>29137589
    you don't get to use the other half of the road until you're returning from your destination, unless you have one of those wide load flags and a spotter car in front and behind.
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    Cyclists are in the wrong, always
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    >>29136508
    Target fixation you go where you are looking on a motorcycle
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    >>29137615
    basado
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    >>29137005
    The motorcyclist then?
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    Who was in the wrong here
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    >>29138194
    Motorcyclist. He ran wide without attempting to add more lean, drag the rear brake, or reduce throttle input. All of which tighten ones turn radius
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    >>29137646
    i have never experienced this in my lifetime of two wheeled vehicles. how fucking retarded are americans that they steer TOWARDS threats instead of away
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    >>29137048
    I would say panic braking is also somewhat target fixation. He didn't even attempt to steer away from the danger.
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    >>29138194
    unironically the motorcyclist. even without the manual cyclists he was already going incredibly wide and would have wiped out guttering himself
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    are people falling for this bait? holy newfags
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    >>29136508
    cyclist are always at fault. always. no exception.
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    A cyclist and an organ donor taken out? Nobody in the wrong here. Wish it would happen more often.
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    bait used to be good
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    >>29136508
    Motorcyclist for braking.
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