Do older cars and trucks just feel uh... more nimble? Zippier? Even if maybe they aren't as fast on paper?I test drove a 4th gen Tacoma today and my 2nd gen (2006) despite being a slow 4cyl with a 5 speed manual somehow feels better. I cannot put my finger on it. My old truck has considerably less power and the suspension is much bouncier. Yet it just feels perfect.I am happy and at peace with my old truck anons. I don't even think I would enjoy one of these new trucks if I was given one.
>>29136447more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow
>>29136447Older vehicles feel more nimble because they're lighter and not engineered to be numb clouds. As for the zippy factor I'd say new vehicles are more zippy. I'm used to 20 year old vehicles with 4 speeds and super long gears. Modern vehicles with 8+ speed trannies with super short and aggressive gearing plus turbo engines with full torque at 1000rpm feel zippier off the line and in traffic.
>>29136447Yeah, I was a lot jockey for a while in the early '10s and sometime between 2010-15ish every new generation of car suddenly got very long, squishy, half-dead feeling throttles that you'd have to press nearly all the way down to get any kickdown or oomph compared to previous gens, despite every single car typically having better power and (supposed) better gearing.I'm talking everything from GMs to Toyotas, Hondas and Kias etc, SUV/CUVs, sedans, trucks and so on. This was around the time that they started tossing more "eco mode" shit in cars, with the "sport mode" shit trickling down from luxury cars so I'd theorize there was some MPG-maximizing throttle tuning bullshit going on.>despite being a slow 4cyl with a 5 speed manual somehow feels betterThat certainly helps, too. I'm sure the throttle has more control, plus you have more control too.
>>29136447Everything feels dead on new cars because that is what boomers want.
It's the weight and the fact that torque doesn't kick in on most vehicles until 3k-4k rpm because they're all heavily choked below 3k for economy. Luckily hybrids still feel light in acceleration. But tarbos? Hell no
>>29136447Less bloat and electronic slop compared to today’s Tacomas that are the size of F-150s
>>29136447less weight and direct steering linkage/brakes etc
>>29137318Throttle linkage, too, although his '06 may be drive-by-wire. Also, more NVH is more perceived and/or real road feel and a more lively experience.
>>29136447Lighter weight overall and smaller wheels and tires
