Today, I will remind them
It was the greatest handling FWD ever made.
basically the american twingo
>>29133067Are twongis death traps too?
>>29133069Yes
these were surprisingly good handling and now i think they are coolsadly, I haven't seen one in the wild in decades
>See SRT4 neon.>Guy wants 12k for it>It has like 200k miles and rodknocks like crazy.Are all of them dead?
>>29133084Yes. Yes they are.
>>29133054I mean I have one of these, but I know people don't like these and don't consider it a "real" SRT... Still have fun in it though.
>>29133084sedan models might have a higher survival rate but 2 door ones were all trashed a long time ago
>>29133119Didn't this heap have some mitsu "evo" engine under the hood?
>>29133119Kill yourself.
All 1st gen Neons were gone from the road by 2004.
>>29133127Yes, the "World engine". Only it's a 2.4l instead of a 2.0l>>29133131nah.
>>29133135Man, I wanted one of those when they were new, I still kinda do because 300hp to the front wheels in a shitbox like that ain't no joke, I know those are really fast shitheaps.
>>29133133yeah they were crap. the automotive press loved "new" Chrysler in the 90s when they finally moved past K-cars but the new stuff was pretty shoddily built and didn't stay on the road long.
>>29133138They're pretty fast, faster than what's on paper. Yeah sure it has its problems, but they're nothing too major imo (except for the blocks tending to crack, but I'm filing that under "poor maintenance"). The FWD is pretty crazy with the amount of hp, if it rains you're shit out of luck to find grip lmao. But all in all a fun thing to drive. I've had it for about 3 years now and didn't have too much problems with it, all simple fixes.
>>29133141the early K-cars sucked too but by the early 90s they'd had a decade to mature. new platforms tend to be buggy by definition.
>>29133146Had a GTC LeBaron with the 2.2 like 2 decades ago, put out about 385hp according to dynoslip to the front wheels, but then I heard that the dyno I benched the car on "can't read more than 380hp".Was in school back then and my teachers supercharged ford mustang couldn't keep up on the strip till 120mph when I ran out of gearing.
>>29133148I'm more chalking that up to Chrysler having $2 to assemble them with in the beginning.
>>29133148>the early K-cars sucked too but by the early 90s they'd had a decade to matureThey were still on an ancient platform. It was sad to see wedge cars that late into the '90s.
>>29133148Shadows and Acclaims were rock solid, you couldn't kill those things but the cars that replaced them like the Stratus and Neon lasted about as long as the warranty.
>>29133156needed a new platform by the late 80s but Lee Iaccoca got old and complacent and stayed several years past when he should have quit
>>29133054I never forgot about it>t. replaying midnight club 3
>>29133133they still exist here in nebraska.
>>29133156>It was sad to see wedge cars that late into the '90s.why? /o/ complains about how they wish manufacturers were building 90s soap bars into the 2020s but here you are hating when a manufacturer sells you what works.I wish Ford still sold the crown vic with the same 90s interior. I'm glad GM still says the chevy express with the same 2000s interior.
>>29133054>SRT4 neonI think modern takes on them are pretty cool. The one car that Dodge attempted to make to emulate Japanese driving feel. I forgot they were sedans.
>>29133202>muh Canadian Crown VicFord wasn't willing to pay Americans decades ago.
>>29133370the vic was moved to canada because Ford needed the factory space in their US plants for other more popular cars.
>>29133388Riiiight.Crown vics were always made in Canada. It's right there in the name - "Crown Victoria." They simply didn't want to pay Americans.
>>29133391They don't want to pay you
>>29133391when they were more popular, they were made in america.
>>29133396That's my point. You'll buy Canadian pretending it's American (I support America!) then tell American engineers to get fucked.That's how you end up working retail with a degree. So long, factory jobs!
>>29133388it was just a police shitbox by then and few of them went to retail sales
>>29133414What the fuck are you talking about? They were very common for civilians until the crossover takeover in the mid-10s. The crown vic was not a low volume car and was make only in Canada for its most popular 2 decades. Why? American health insurance costs, as always.
>>29133419After the 80s most of them were fleet vehicles and the remainder were owned by old people.
>>29133428Old people are a big demographic with money. It used to be that these were seen as the most comfortable cars. I drove through most of the 00s, they were one of the most common cars.You just won't admit that the country is in decline because it's the only country in the world that lets drug manufacturers set prices so Amerian labor became too expensive for that reason.
>>29133428really, even in the 80s most retail Panthers were old guy cars. it was mostly just retired GI Generation people driving them.
>>29133054I had a friend that had one and it was surprisingly fast. I was a little butt hurt it put my Civic Si to shame. Here’s a sleeper, the Grand Prix GXP, it had an LS4 under the hood and FWD. Besides being ugly, they were actually pretty quick. >>29133081It’s because the market was for young people, so some 20 year old store manager that worked at GameStop owned it and drove it without changing the oil or some Mexican kid in the army bought it and yeet’d it into a ditch while driving drunk
>>29133054If they were sold in europe chrysler wouldve had far easier time getting foothold hereI wouldnt mind a 2nd gen srt4
I liked this car.
>>29133119>I meanStopped reading right there.
>>29133160>shadowsdamn right, one of the best cars in my dad's endless shitbox lineup growing up was rusty shadow ES with 200k+ miles and no headliner, a cd player without mounting brackets duct taped to the stereo cavity, and rainbow dolphin seat covers to cover all the cigarette burn holes in the seats (mom liked dolphins). it was a most glorious white trash chariot, loud and stinky exhaust leak as I'm sure you already imagined
>>29133054why is there no more light coupes made today?
>>29134494BRZ, FRS, Miata, 1 and 2 series bmw, Elantra N, and probably several others in forgetting. You're not buying one so manufacturers stopped making them. Inb4 you were in diapers when the srt4 was out and you explicitly do not want a used car but cannot afford a new one so manufacturers cater to people actually buying. That's why.
>>29134524I can afford and want a new one but brzs need premium fule and are turbocharged, bmws are too expensive, miatas are too low for snow, and elantra n is a 4 door
>>29134539>brzs need premium fule and are turbocharged,They're NA. Didn't say you can afford something then get upset over premium fuel.
>>29134552oh my bad, I saw 2.4l and assumed it was the wrx setup ported to a smaller chassisanyway what I reallt want is a new production na port injected fwd coupe with at least 6'' of ground clearance, a 6 speed dct, and weiging less than 2600lbsflex fuel a plus
>>29134564>I want something that's never existed because it's fucking moronic. You want a Subaru Crosstrek. You actually want a lifted car or low suv that's as light as a race car. Go buy a Lada Niva.
>>29134579hey don't bully me, lada doesn't sell in the US
>>29133084They were a cheap way to go fast for a long time on a platform that was never built to last sadly. 12k for 200k is fucking nuts though.>>29133119It's a decent srt4 successor but it's still ugly as fuck
>>29133054These are girl's cars.
