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    Why are chinese cars actually hated on here? Is it just because they're chinese?
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    >>29130783
    buy an ad
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    >>29130786
    i didnt even mention any specific brand in my post bro
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    >>29130783
    Body panels are sometimes actually made with particle board
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    the rise of chinese cars is a sign that all common cars will soon become crappy disposable appliances, just like all the other electronics made in china
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    It's 70s jap cars in the US all over again
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    >>29130783
    it reminds amerimutts that their "empire" is in decline due to a series of nero-level self-owns
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    >>29130783
    China has a materials quality and rapid enshitification problem, chinesium. It's a rampant problem seen by their own countrymen, they export the worse of the production keeping the acceptable examples. Metals are not what they are claimed to be. Further engineers are told to find ways to save as much money as possible. You can look at the majority of products that the country produces and see this problem.
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    >>29130783
    >Why are chinese cars actually hated on here? Is it just because they're chinese?

    Russians have already discovered the quality of Chinese vehicles.

    A forum titled "Chinese Trucks in Russia: Initial Operational Experience and Prospects" was held in Novosibirsk, bringing together representatives from Russian transport companies, Chinese firms, and economists. It quickly became apparent that the collaboration is not unfolding as the Russian side had hoped.

    The primary complaint concerns the significantly higher failure rate of Chinese vehicles, which break down much more often than their European counterparts.

    Interestingly, there is no consistent pattern regarding these breakdowns. While some vehicles manage to cover high mileage without requiring repairs, about half of the Chinese trucks experience major failures in critical components—such as the engine or transmission—before reaching 500,000 kilometers, which, in the context of heavy-duty trucking, amounts to just 3–4 years of service. Many complaints also focused on electrical system failures, as well as the fact that even routine maintenance tasks—such as replacing a battery—are overly complex and require specialized diagnostic equipment.

    Another issue is the lack of local warehouses and service centers. Consequently, repairs handled by dealerships take a long time, as necessary parts must be imported from China. For transport companies, every truck taken out of service translates into tangible financial losses. Furthermore, it was noted that the prices for spare parts for Chinese vehicles can be significantly HIGHER than those for European trucks.
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    >>29130859
    >>29130849
    >>29130804
    You have 10 seconds to post a reputable source to prove that you didn't just spew out a bunch of schizobabble.
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    >>29130788
    They're all owned by the ccp.
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    >>29130867
    Take apart any cheap chinese product and you'll see what I'm talking about. Not to mention the constant stream of videos of insane accidents caused by part failures.
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    >>29130869
    I've seen enough. Meds NOW.
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    >>29130867
    https://www.drive.com.au/news/maextro-v800-220000-chinese-ev-brakes-fail-three-times-in-testing/
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    >>29130783
    >Why
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    >>29130783
    >Why are chinese cars actually hated on here?
    Just listen.
    https://youtu.be/r0pZG5TV6dA?t=156
    The Hongqi LS7 is being pitched as a Rolls Royce killer. It simply isn't.

    The problem with Chinese cars isn't that they are from China. It's that they cut corners when they shouldn't.

    I've driven cheap and expensive American cars in the past. When it cheap, they'll won't pretend it's not. When it's expensive, they go all out and make it worth the money.

    While I agree that American cars are no where near as good as the Japanese or Germans, I don't see the Chinese beating them even if they have a price advantage. If the Hongqi LS7 is what China considers it's best, it should not squeak and rattle like a cheap American car.
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    >>29130783
    It's just mutts seething
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    >>29130868
    And that's a BAD thing!
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    But was America wearing its high vis and helmet when it got pwnt by the CCP?

    Really it's their own fault for not making themselves more visible as they were run over by an 8000lb piece of plastic.
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    >>29130788
    >he doesn't think china is a brand
    >they literally have chinese communist party

    >>29130810
    >the rise of chinese cars is a sign that all common cars will soon become crappy disposable appliances
    Pretty much. I think most people treat driving as a punishment they must endure these days. If autopilot gets good enough, people will surrender the wheel under the guise of reclaiming their time. They won't give up private ownership easily though.
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    >>29130783
    Did you forget what website you're on? Anybody who's seen a /b/ gore thread would never buy anything mechanical made by the Chinese.
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    >>29130783
    >americans taking shortcuts and having low quality control GOOD
    >chinese taking shortcuts and having low quality control BAD
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    >>29131424
    did they really name their product Honkey LS7?
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    Actually I think it's more the constant shill threads being made about them that kinda sours the community's opinion on it.
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    >>29131711
    >slopshot
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    >>29131789
    yes, google search never forgets no matter how hard americans try to memoryhole it
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    >>29131792
    >using google
    There are better alternatives.
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    >>29131711
    american cars and chinese cars both suck
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    >>29130783
    Because they have a low shelf life, other than BYD maybe.
    To this day Geely refuses to update their security and their cars are a prime target for thiefs that can jam a car's systems and steal it. This is impossible on western cars, even EVs of Volvo which is Chinese owned, but western engineered and maintained.
    If I buy a Jap car I know that it will be serviceable two decades later. I can't say that for any Chinese brand. Hell I can't be sure 5 years out. The Chinese can't grasp concepts such as reputation, tradition, trust, continuity.
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    I don't trust Chinese appliances and there is no way I can ever take them to court if their death machines fuck me over because they can just close down their shell company here and create another one.
    I started exclusively doing business with my fellow countrymen if at all possible.
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    >why do you hate things made by a people with a culture of ripping each other off with the poorest quality known to man?
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    >>29130783
    No, see stuff that sucks doesn't get praise. Like if your retard rice mobile has 90 features that don't make sense or work, and some are the wheels, there probs.
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    >>29130788
    Chinese is one brand
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    >>29130788
    Go back
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    >>29130783
    its because the majority of this board are either
    >actual truggfags
    >retarded BMW/kraut-tricknology lovers
    >buttmad retards
    if this board had flags enabled the majority of this board would likely be fitty fitty burgers(magagolems) and kebabs.
    you are better off talking about chinkmobiles on /int/ or /v/ than here, genuinely.
    i personally dont have issues with chinese cars (white cracker born in china), but i do get the stigma surrounding them back like a decade or two ago when they were just death traps or copy-pastes.
    Nowadays its because people are threatened by cars that overall are quite mid but are worth it on a price per capabilities/tech and whatnot standpoint, they are perfect for A2B normies or people that like exotic shitboxes, meaning they threaten their native industries
    >b-but le ev explode!!!
    nigger most of the EV videos are fucking teslas, barely saw a chink ev going up in flames myself outside of Laotoules who ARE ACTUAL FUCKING DEATH TRAPS but boomer death is ok.
    tl;dr: yesnt, its both because they are chinese and not really enthusiasts specified shitmobiles, though i'll take a chinese car or even a indian shitbox over a burgeroid car any day of the week (except chrevolets/GM, like 90% of their entire models are just rebadged chinese cars, look it up)
    fuck you tesla btw
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    >>29130783
    I hate all modern cars (anything in the last 20 years), regardless of their origin.
    China didn't make cars before the modern era (at least nothing worth exporting) so I hate all Chinese cars.
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    >>29132092
    >born in china
    kek

    anyway its not about the exploding shit, its about the thin ass steel they use, the lack of anti corrosion coatings, the fake advertising and comparisions
    and also they are all souless slop like most new cars are

    kys faggot chink bitch
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    >>29132112
    >using the same insult again o algo
    >sharty buzzword
    my parents back home in chongqing drove a Chery Tiggo 3X and we never had any relative issues with it, maybe because we arent ruraloids golemites faggot dogeating retards still.
    >b-b-but u r a chink!!!
    nigga i'm not even a han, we only moved to china to escape the nuremberg trials you gay little nigger, i'll find where you live and i'll eat your pets and swap your batteries with faulty ones you little honorable brahmin
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    >>29132121
    >chongqing drove a Chery Tiggo 3X
    am I supposed to know what those gibberish words are suppose to be?

    and I only said "kek" to you being chinese and defending chinese cars lol

    stay mad chink lmao
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    >>29130815
    Wrong because the 70s japan wasn't an authoritarian country. They actually alloted individual rights for their workers which in turn promoted higher quality control. Something you NEVER will be able to do in China because there is literally 0 incentive to stop production lines to correct a fuck up. The Chinese will never be anything more than low value, high volume goods. Massive swaths of junk pumped out as fast as you can to chuck out the door like a shitty hot potato.

    The Chinese will always be under the Japanese, and that's why they hate them so much (because the Japanese are just better humans than the Chinese on literally every front)
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    chinks and indians are same tier - the bottom of the barrel digusting waste of skins shitskins

    you trying to insult me by implying I am an indian is hilarious, like a tranny insulting a nigger

    keep seething lil dicklet chudcel
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    >29132138

    >chinks and indians are same tier - the bottom of the barrel digusting waste of skins shitskins

    >you trying to insult me by implying I am an indian is hilarious, like a tranny insulting a nigger

    >keep seething lil dicklet chudcel
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    >seething chink keeps replying

    post car
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    >29132141
    pic from a couple of years ago, your move fag
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    The problem with Chinese cars is that their is no Chinese cars but just derivatives of everyone else's cars that are cheap and disposable. If China made a 4x4 tiny off-roader called the Wu-Kong or something then everyone would love them
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    >>29132145
    >literally the cheapest car toyota sells
    bro do you even like cars?

    this is one of my 3 cars, I got like 3x the hp you have

    unironically stop posting on here, you are just wasting everyones time
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    >>29132154
    >Beemer
    HAHAHAHA
    this is the gay nigger i'm arguing with, your not even a fucking indians who atleast have a semblance of culture
    you are a fucking turk, you stole shit from the mongols and arabs
    i rather die chinese than turkish
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    >>29132156
    >this i6 7000rpm redline 200+hp rwd manual car is bad actually okay????

    kek, so you really dont like cars do you
    why are you even here??? legit asking
    do you think you have something to contribute? like your posts are worth reading to anyone?

    or are you a little cuck chink that likes being embarrassed? like you get off when you get shat on?
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    This thread is proof that everyone except the US and Japan should be banned from the internet
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    >>29130783
    i'm not sure surrendering all of your heavy industry and advanced manufacturing to the chinese is a wise play in the long run.
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    >>29130815
    yes, and that's why we have a rust belt now.
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    >>29132166
    You were expecting boomers to be intelligent enough to see that?
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    >>29132173
    citizens? yes absolutely.
    politicians in cahoots with the MBA class who think of nothing other than their quarterly bonus? Yes they know it as well. They just don't care, because it's not their community that's gutted when the manufacturing base is outsourced.
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    >>29130783
    >Why are chinese cars actually hated

    They have lots of problems.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOwnKoVhcA
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    >>29130804
    No different than over here
    >Used to work in furniture store
    >Defected table comes in
    >Have to bust it up before I throw it away
    >First swing of the hammer reveals particle board and styrofoam under wood laminate
    >Price was 4000 dollars
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    Chinese EV works okay, but due to everyday wear and tear, some insulation might wear out and now your Chinese EV car body panel is floating (electrically high) as in the video.
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    >>29132294
    that's a BYD D1, took me some time to find it
    cant find any info about that incident but it looks like the guy had some other issues? if he was getting shocked i doubt he'd collapse like that
    >>29132281
    >reddit spacing
    fagggggg
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    >>29132294
    Nerve gas
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    >>29132318
    >if he was getting shocked i doubt he'd collapse like that

    Doesn't need to have sparks or smoke. They don't need to act as if tasered by high frequency pulse sets. For electrical power, they just stop moving and then slump off when electrocuted.
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    >>29132166
    It's okay bro, we'll fix it by surrendering software and fintech to india
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    China has 1,400,000,000 people.
    They stole all of our technologies because boomers wanted a one-generation solution where China was their slaves.
    Now China is producing cars with stolen tech that took decades and billions of dollars for us to test and suss out, they're finally getting cars themselves and are churning them out on low wages.
    You complain about low wages today, imagine how it will be if you buy their cheap shit then they're the only show left in town. When the only jobs left in the west are gov't and service industry jobs (food, retail, construction, HVAC) then we will become the slaves working for nothing.
    You can't blame boomers on your situation then do the exact thing they did.
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    Simple. Eject China from the West.
    Blanket North Korea style will not trade with OR trade with those who in turn trade with China.
    They'll be dead in 20 years, all of them. Everyone can live without china and china cannot stand alone.
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    >>29133244
    >Everyone can live without china
    I'd like to see your computer infrastructure without Chinese parts.
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    >>29132092
    >barely saw a chink ev going up in flames myself outside of Laotoules
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    >>29133248
    TAIWAN BABY, TAIWAN NUMBA 1 NO CHINA HERE BB ON THE REAL FOR THE REEL FUCK POOH FUCK XI
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    >>29133347
    Taiwan must steal jackie chan to assert their dominance
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    No identity no history.
    Genetic EV slop that should be banned
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    >>29133789
    What about hybrids?
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    >>29133793
    Nuked outta the solar system
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    >>29130783
    >Why are chinese cars actually hated

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCepP0B2Aw
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    >>29130783
    they're chinese but also they're EVs, so of course /o/ hates them

    there is a rational reason to hate chinese cars, and in general chinese products, and that's their anticompetitive practices, but no one on /o/ or in general talks about this. china artificially devalues their currency through strict capital control and the yuan peg. this is a danger (as we have seen over the last 30 years) to all industries in developed nations that china is allowed to compete with. a gradual ban of all chinese goods along with increased collaboration across western countries would be able to bring back manufacturing and stablize western economies in the long term, but the short term pain of doing that (and incompetent leaders, corruption, etc.) prevents that from happening.
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    >>29131711
    Chevy cars literally are Chinese, if you want American buy Toyota or Tesla.
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