Is a 2017 fiesta ST the most fun car I can get for 13k?
Front wheel drive isn't fun. you can buy RWD stuff for the same price.
>>29127986You could get a not-yet blown up WRX for that much
I'm not sure if the /mu/ beatles boyband poster or the /o/ BMW poster is the more obnoxious, attention depraved faggot. Like exactly how sad is your life? I wish mods had some balls and would just permaban them but that would take away traffic from an already dying website.
>>29127986I remember when they were $8k all day It's a reasonably fun car for the price and they're fairly reliable.
>>29127999Heavy
>>29127991It's fun the way I do it. Maybe you don't have enough skill?
>>29128014front wheel drive doesn't require skill. understeer isn't fun.
>>29127986>Is a 2017 fiesta ST the most fun car I can get for 13k?A Clio is a better choice if you're looking for "fun".The Fiesta’s steering is lighter and over-assisted/sensitive and its suspension has more roll to it. If you're mainly commuting the Fiesta is a better choice but if you're trying to have 'fun' the Clio is more responsive and gives better feedback, especially in the corners. Something to note is the Fiesta has more throttle lag but it is faster off the line. So if your idea of fun is going fast in a straight line it might be worth it.I'm assuming we're talking manual here, but if not, avoid the Fiesta, it has a tendency to spend time hunting for gears, which is likely down to that throttle lag.Either way, book an extended test drive. YMMV.
>>29128017That is not sold in the US
>>29127994>BMtroubleU
>>29128015>understeer isn't fun.Neither is over-steer.If you want to get the most out of your vehicle you should be driving with your forces on the limit, not exceeding them.
>>29128027>Neither is over-steer.that's like responding to "dicks in the ass isn't fun" with "neither is prime young pussy".there is something truly mentally wrong with front wheel drive cucks.
>>29128020There's always Mexico...
For $13k, yea. I saw a nice one near me the with premium trim with 50k miles. Nearly bought it as a fun car
>>29128017>>29128033people suggesting french shit might as well buy a dodge neon. probably will even be more reliable.
>>29128032>Stop liking the thing I don't like!All you're doing at this stage is projecting your insecurities.
>>29128040I don't care if you like dicks in the ass, but don't pretend it's fun.
>>29128036>People suggesting french shit might as well buy a dodge neon.You mean a Mitsubishi/Nissan. They share common modules.>probably will even be more reliable.You're getting your Frenchmen mixed, it's Peugeot that has reliability issues.This is where I throw some shit about how Ford/Chrysler recall more vehicles than anyone else.
>>29128043Are you the arbiter of other people's fun?
>>29128049ah, yes. the "common modules" will surely make up for the fact that it's french. and a recall totally represents reliability, not how long the car actually stays on the road.
>>29128051>Responds like a 12 year old.I think we're done here.
>>29128050If you personally think dicks up the ass is fun, more power to you. i'm not taking that experience away from you. but when you say it is "fun" as in general? no.
>>29128053>iSeeCars>Based in the Boston>Doesn't include vehicles not sold in the US>Funded by the Indian Institute of Technology.
>>29128061if nigsan and shitsubishi share modules with french junk, then they're basically the same. nigsan even uses french platforms.
>>29128074>AI slopdidn't read
>>>has no car>>Don't care
>>29128043Millions of people take dicks in the ass despite the fact that it causes heath issues. That is good evidence that it must indeed be fun.
>>29128038An suv.
>>29128086out of the billions of people on earth? so like, less than 1% of the population? that doesn't sound like something that is generally fun. it sounds like a mental illness.
>>29128089That's not what that is.
>>29128097>millions of people don't think it causes health issues, therefore it must notThis is an example of argumentum ad populum, concluding that a general consensus or popular conception is proof of an objective fact. It's a logical fallacy because people's beliefs can be wrong.>millions of people do it despite there being no discernible benefit, therefore it must be funThis is a rational inductive argument. People generally don't do things that don't have any discernible benefit, especially things which are ostensibly deleterious to the health, except for the sake of enjoyment. There's pretty much no other logical conclusion one could draw from the data.
>>29128086what issues does taking dick in the ass cause?
>>29128183getting fecal matter on your dick isn't very sanitary.
>>29128017>I'm assuming we're talking manual herepretty sure the Fiesta ST was manual only
>>29127986I guess so, in the US.>>29128025OP wants a fun car, not another full time job.>>29128043Prostate massage is factually more pleasurable than penile stimulation. It is a simple science, read it up if you want. There's a reason there are much more bottoms than tops among gays.>>29128183The anus is not "specced" for continuous friction with a flexible-yet-solid object. It is "specced" to take a dump once a day. No amount of lube will overcome this fact. Anal sex damages the anus, period.>>29128184You didn't answer his question, dumbfuck.
>>29128193>You didn't answer his questionNot my fault you're retarded and can't connect the dots between sanitation and health.
>>29128193>Prostate massage is factually more pleasurable than penile stimulation.not when it's from a dick in your ass. if that were the case, we'd all be gay.
>>29128195You explained why it is bad for the penetrator, not for the penetrated. They specifically asked what's bad in taking it up the ass.>>29128199>if that were the case, we'd all be gay.What if it's your own dick? It's the same as masturbation.
>>29128202>What if it's your own dick?I don't even like sucking my own dick, why would I gain any pleasure from fucking my own ass?
>>29128202>You explained why it is bad for the penetrator,You're getting presumably other people's fecal matter shoved back in your ass with their shit covered dick assuming they aren't a virgin.
>>29128207Because your prostate has more nerve endings than your dick and it is immensely pleasurable to stimulate it.>>29128209What if he makes sure the penetrating partner is clean and not promiscuous (for some reason most gay people are incapable of this and catch aids or monkeypox, but hypothetically)
>>29128210>Because your prostate has more nerve endings than your dick and it is immensely pleasurable to stimulate it.But i'm not sexually attracted to myself, so my dick won't ever get hard. how am I going to stimulate my own prostate with my soft dick? It's the same with giving myself a blowjob. it won't do anything regardless of nerve endings if it's from myself.
>>29128210>Because your prostate has more nerve endings than your dick and it is immensely pleasurable to stimulate it.>be you>a fag>get dicked>get a tiny abrasion>shitting becomes a literal pain in the ass for the next week
>>29128183Increased risk of STDs vs vaginal intercourse, plus increased risk of anal cancer, plus permanent fecal incontinence due to anal damage. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5231615/
>>29128193The reason there are more bottoms than tops among gays is because of the spiritual crisis in this country.
>>29127986you can get much more for 13 that and fiesta
>>29128243Can you come up with another theory as to why they do it?
>>29128253Example? Must have less than 60k Mike's
>>29127986Fun, practical and reliable if you can get over the FF layout. I sometimes miss mine.
>>29129517thisthere's definitely more "fun" cars you can get for 13k, which should get you a very nice FiST, but they're not going to be as practical and all around as this.
>>29127986A Fit is more fun. A Swift Sport is even more fun, but not USA.
>>29127986>Fun car for around 13k>Also assuming it needs to b reliable and cheap to maintain because of such a low buying price 2005–2009 Ford Mustang GT (S197)RWD, manual, v8, reliable, cheap parts, easy to maintain, practical if you're not hauling people around.Insurance and gas will be higher but almost no fun car will have cheap insurance/gas.Personally I'd save like 2k or 3k more and get a newer mustang with the coyote engine or a Camaro.
>>29129536>source: some guy that has never driven a fiesta not to mention a fiesta st
>>29129536>Fiesta ST 0-60: 6.9s>Swift Sport 0-60: 8sLol
>Buy rwd>never power slide>it's automaticThat's you guys
>>29131812My automatic power slides all the time. Just turned off TC. Also, I drive a manual and I can never get it to power slide…. Stupid awd.
>>29128027>neither is oversteer skill issue@OP E36 is always the answer
>>29128017is a clio reliable? seems like a better choice than the captur that is only a clio in high heels
>>29132783lol no
i20Ndon’t be stupid anon
>>29131812>Buy rwdYes. >never power slideJust did yesterday on a highway interchange cloverleaf.>it's automaticThe trim I bought is manual only.
Buy a 2010s tesla
>>29127986ND1 Miata
>>29127999lol no
>>29128022OP said fun, not reliable.
>>29132783>Is a clio reliable?Had mine 14 years, Only issue I've had were a failed alternator and the wiper motor failing because the scuttles got blocked and it flooded out. Had to replace the front-sub due to rust but I live on the coast so that shit is to be expected.
>>29133577Lawn ornaments aren't fun.
>>29127986>Is this three banger with wet belts a good choice for a fun car?
