Cabover Trucks look Smart. Conventional Trucks look Retarded. Conventional Trucks look like the engineers put very little effort into the product.
Counterpoint: cabover trucks look like the result of length restrictions (because they are), and are therefore cucked.Real trucks have long noses.
>>29118073length restrictions are there to protect you from yourself. we've all seen truggers have to make a 256 point turn to get down some sidestreet before
>>29118075Commie mindset.
>>29118075>length restrictions are there to protect you from yourselfThanks! I love it when the government feels like it needs to protect me from myself!
>>29118067Could be worse..."Ultra-low cab design for improved aerodynamics and cargo volume" - At the cost of limited visibility for the driver and a complete lack of space for even a rudimentary living area — whoever designed this prototype must have NEVER driven a real semi-truck.
>>29118084this anon is posting from his phone still stuck at a residental intersection he can't fit his truck through
>>29118104sleeper cabs arent as much of a thing in yurop because of the higher density. but also yeah, i cant imagine any actual driver wanting to be below his cargo like that, driving that must create a physical form of actual tangible anxiety that comes out of your butt uncommanded
To me cabover are the conventional trucks.
>>29118116Many European trucks have a sleeping berth or two in the cabin.
>>29118123there are fewer transcontinental routes because muh freight rail. i didnt say they dont exist, just that they are rarer. but also there's still Standardized Containers coming off of ships and rail so thats why theres still articulated truggs at all instead of everything being rigid
>>29118112If he were an actual trucker instead of a steering wheel holder he wouldn't be in the residentials anyway.
>>29118146he is brown and drunk, please understand, he is top 1% human capital hired on H1B and does not have shoes on
>>29118123Why does it have what looks like a landline phone in the bed area?
>>29118155probably hooked up to his radio or satphone, often satellite phones will come with fittings so instead of treating it like a cellphone you can bolt a thing to the wall indoors and have the satphone itself installed somewhere it can actually see the sky
>>29118141There's far more goods moved by truck than by rail in Europe. Rail is more used for passenger transport. Trans-EU routes exist and you'll see truckers from eastern Europe operate across the union.
>>29118141>>29118116Tesla was actively criticized for not including a bed in the Semi.
>>29118182>Muh trains, why don't yanks embrace trains? >No not like THAT!
>>29118182the EU has fallen. billions must choo-choo
>>29118187>Tesla was actively criticized for not including a bed in the Semi.What on earth were they thinking—that they’d build an autonomous truck?
>>29118209>—CAUGHT YA BITCH
>>29118067Cabovers are for tight areas and length restrictions. A conventional setup is better for long distance hauling and heavy haul.Different tools for different jobs.
>>29118295Except a good cabover will haul that lowboy no problem and use less fuel at the same time?
>>29118067We've got both and cabovers just tend to be more modern.
DAF XG trucks interior looks so nice thiugh.
>>29118317Yeah this. Idk if a cabover could do that either. Anyone have the answer?
>>29118365Theres a guy who makes instgram videos driving a DAF truck around Europe and he drives it wearing socks. They dont wear their shoes in rhe truck. Driving that wearing only socks seems sorta crazy though
>>29118317The longer wheelbase of a conventional layout rides smoother and is more comfortable in the cab because you're not sitting on top of the engine. It also offers more flexibility for moving the fifth wheel plate around and getting your axle weights correct. Cabovers have their place but don't be dumb and act like they should be used for everything - like people who spam "van vs. pickup" threads
>>29118067Slavic retard cope
>>29118368A cabover can't go westbound on the interstate. That being westbound for North America is like climbing a mountain for hundreds of miles. Then there's the fact the outside temperature is greater than whatever it is in Europe. Then again Europe might have a different logistical system of trucks going between distro centers instead of directly to the destination so the trucks aren't going non-stop highway for hours and still have time to be serviced. Cabovers in the U.S. will only likely be seen in metropolitan if there is no smaller truck to freight.
>>29118295>literally only 1/4 of the total length is cargo>said cargo is another vehicle that could have simply driven itself overid say amerimutts are unhinged but that vehicle has too many hinges actually
>>29118645That crane is 60,000 kg and needs all those wheels to spread the weight out. That crane has a 15mph top speed... Why would you spend a day driving there at 15mph and destroy your expensive tires when you can throw it on a lowboy and take it to the destination at 60+mph? I can see why you people still live in the 1500's...
>>29118645>>literally only 1/4 of the total cargo capacity is cargo>>said cargo is another vehicle that could have simply driven itself overMan, Europe really needs to unfuck their shit
>>29118073Seppos wish they could have this
>>29118067Don't conventional trucks have a lot less drag and are therefore more fuel efficient?Cab overs are just giant slabs smashing into the wind.
>>29118891>Cab overs are just giant slabs smashing into the wind.But it’s still better than that prototype.>>29118104At least for the driver—the mere thought of sitting in such a low truck makes me claustrophobic.
>>29118449yeah I love vans but sometimes you gotta haul a truckload of manure somewhere lol
>>29118834moar
>>29118067I prefer cabovers with sovl
>>29118645
>>29119307moar
>>29118075>the American mindset cannot differentiate a self-imposed restriction and a legal law>the American mindset cannot comprehend the universal standard
>>29118067Those look like fucking pugs/bulldogs.
>>29118104That would probably go hard in a port or distribution center though
>>29118155It connects to an exterior loudspeaker so you can tell the lot lizard that you're open for business
>>29118187It's not a real truck if it doesn't have an eight foot bed
>>29118067>forget coffee mug>tilt cab for daily PMCS (preventive maintenance checks and service)>crack windshieldThese trucks are the biggest fucking joke in the world.100% bitch made peon boot lickers.
>>29122354>standardCry more, peasant faggot.
>>29118644>can'tCabovers were common in the US for literal decades, stop being fucking stupid. Do you think there was some insane system where they only shipped stuff west on trains and east on trucks?>the radiator is somehow hiddenwhat exactly do you think is behind the GIANT SILVER MESH AT THE FRONT OF THE CABfucking AI slop posters jesus christ
>>29123125That looks like an oversized SUV.
>>29118067I can feel the creaky plastic from hereEw, get it out of my sight
>>29123119Couldn't give a shit about the OP, but you are a retard.
i never get why people rile themselves up into these autistic tribalistic identity battles. conventional and cabovers have different benefits and compromises to eachother, and it doesn't matter what the other side of the planet uses. the US uses longnose trucks because they're almost always doing longhauls, and not trying to weave through boston. so the downside of larger size rarely comes into play compared to what upsides they get
>>29125178Before Reagan banned truck size limits, the states had states' rights to impose truck size limits, the smaller eastern states those limits while the larger western states did not.
>>29125037>t. Never dealt with a cab-over
If it's good enough for optimus it's good enough for me.
>>29118067Newer Eurocuck cabovers are terrible. Literally the product of regulatory cuckholdry and the engineers would stick a sensor up your ass to monitor your hemorrhoids if they could. Sisu trucks are good though, props to the Finns.
>>29118370>Theres a guy who makes instgram videos driving a DAF truck around Europe and he drives it wearing socks. They dont wear their shoes in rhe truck. Driving that wearing only socks seems sorta crazy thoughI drive barefoot/in socks most of the time, just chuck boots on when I need boots, otherwise just thongs if i'm filling up at the servo etc https://youtu.be/21Z8NXuGVD0?t=624
>>29126946They actually went with a cab over because they couldn't make the oy transform with the conventional truck design
>>29125037Look at>>29118123And be aware that the entire cab has to be tilted to about 75° twice a day.
>>29127057>And be aware that the entire cab has to be tilted to about 75° twice a day.Sometimes it only happens once.
>>29127057Never heard of that. You only have to tilt if you want to access specific parts of the propulsion system.
>>29127114Semi trucks arent your shitbox hand me down civic that youve driven into the ground because you havent checked the oil since your last oil change.Theyre required by law to do a safety inspection at the beginning of each shift.That means tilting the cab and checking fluids, belt conditions, wiring harness for abrasions on the loom etc etc etc.
>>29127269https://youtube.com/watch?v=rRdP5F3c_HI???
>>29127269European Union law or your own fantasy law?
>>29127527European law.We understand that India doesnt have motor vehicles codes so its an alien concept to you but Europe, U.S., Canada, Japan, Australia all require daily inspections on commercial vehicles.If you get pulled over for a traffic citation the first thing cops do is check your daily logs.
>>29127828Cite some laws that require tilting the cab to check on cooling liquid or whatever else is hidden there.
>>29127839https://www.fleetcheck.co.uk/articles/daily-vehicle-checks-laws-explained/
>>29127269>>29127527His own fantasyHere a video of a standard daily checkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyQUivtGVSg
>>29118449Modern cabovers with full air suspension and air suspended cabs are very smooth.
>>29127853
>>29127853The video literally ends with "you can carry on with THE REST OF THE INSPECTION".It doesnt even cover everything.Retard.
>>29128198>>29128204Here a more detailed video about what is part of a daily walkaround check and tilting the cab is not part of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6jzYiUZmY
>>29118644They do just fine in australia where its hotter and longer distance.
>>29127057No they dont
>>29127828In australia literally no one tilts their shit every day
>>29128268australia has both cabover & conventional trucks, yet cabovers are dominant.
>>29130346true
>>29130346Any vehicle length restrictions?
>>29118104I've seen something like this used to steer very large machines/planes
>>29118104>Steinwinter-Supercargoi would paint that like a colonial marine APC and daily drive it
>>29119307anon are you implying that the helicopters are towing/hoisting the plane or that humvees can drive on water
>>29132446australia has fucking roadtrains you retarded seppo
>>29132973Which are allowed a maximum length of 53.5 meters (175ft) Hey, look at that there's a length restriction even on road trains. Lets look into this a bit further since Ausfags apparently like to lie while being jackasses about itSeems that semi trucks are limited to 20 meters (65ft) so not even as long as a typical US truck with a 53' trailer on it (typical set-back axle tractor wheelbase is 20ft plus overhangs. Seems that overall length is restricted on both common types of Class 8 truck in Ausliarland. Gee, I wonder why cabovers dominate there.
>>29133205>Which are allowed a maximum length of 53.5 meters (175ft)I thought those road trains were supposed to be long. The province next to me allows triple 53's which are longer than that.
>>29133205>Which are allowed a maximum length of 53.5 metersaccording to who?
>>29133257>according to who?Just what I'd expect a lying-ass Australian to say. The below is a .gov.au page so you can fuck right off with your "sky-is-blue" citations bullshit.Australian National Heavy Vehicle Regulator.https://www.nhvr.gov.au/road-access/mass-and-dimension/dimension-requirements/lengthThe relevant text copied from that page:"Combination or single vehicleThe maximum length of a heavy vehicle is: for a combination other than a B-double, road train or a vehicle carrier if the combination includes a heavy trailer that is not fitted with a braking system that complies with the requirements of ADR 38/05 or a later version of ADR 38; and is not powered by the towing vehicle – 19 metres otherwise – 20 metres for a B-double – 25 metres* for a road train – 53.5 metres for a vehicle carrier – 25 metres for an articulated bus – 18 metres for a bus other than an articulated bus – 14.5 metres for another vehicle – 12.5 metres."
>>29118073dont be a retard m8cabovers are a result of length optimizationwhile your big gay compensator of a truck is struggling to turn into a 2 lane backstreet, our superior eurotrucks can pull into a mcdonalds drive thru if they want
>>29133468>Blocks your path.
Being a passenger princess in a truck with a big sleeper cab seems so comfy. Chilling out, being DJ for the driver, looking at menus of the place you're going to eat. The dream
>>29133476m8 you're going to be stuck in the footwell barely able to breathe
>>29119134It looks so derpy with just one lamp per side
>>29133468>the euro brags about being able to walk less
>>29133718it looks a bit goofy, but i always wondered why big rigs aren't more aero optimized. i know that the tail end of the trailer actually contributes most of the drag, but still.
>>29133738Most trucks you see on the road these days like the Cascadia are aero models.
>>29133749yeah i guess the drag on something like that is within "good enough" territory.
>>29118075>length restrictions are there to protect you from yourself.Peak Eurocück post
pEaK euro and ameri cabin piss bottles and poo jugs
>>29133755Even then it still only gets between 6 and 8 mpg
>>29133780i think most long haul freight locomotives have pretty abysmal mpg, but given the literal mountains they're hauling it's worthwhile.
>>29118182Lol europe fucked itself good with the passenger train memeRail only makes money with freight
>>29134732They burn like 3.5 gallons per mile which is pretty good for a clapped out 3000+hp 2 stroke dinosaur moving a few million pounds.
>>29134751Not much beats steel wheel on steel rail for low rolling resistance. Also muh hybrid.
>>29134761There are no hybrid locomotives in North America. 99.9% of them are ancient 2 strokes that burn a pail of oil a day.
>>29134761Maglev
>>29118067cuckover
>>29134762What?!?!The vast majority of trains in the U.S. are diesel electric. Diesel electrics were invented in the 1940s and completely took over in the 1950s.Subways are mostly electric but freight trains are basically all diesel electric "hybrids".
>>29125178Well we're on the internet, what do you expect. If we actually had jobs that mattered we wouldn't be discussing this.
>>29135175A diesel-electric loco or haul truck is not a hybrid. It has no propulsion batteries. They use a generator/alternator and motors because it's easier than distributing that power mechanically.
>>29128261Australians mostly use Conventionals.
>>29126869the length restriction was federal, clown. pertained to interstate highways.
>>29135378It's literally known as a Series HYBRID you fucking mong.
>>29118067How is the Isuzu NPR (now imported as the Chevy LCF)? I'm looking into getting one as a neat little work truck. Pisses me off they don't import the 4x4 version though.Will the diesel have any issues with mostly making short trips? I hear you should opt for gas if you mostly do short trips and don't wanna sit there warming up the engine.
>>29135665>hear you should opt for gas if you mostly do short tripsGo electric.
>>29135669They have EV ones but the range is terrible. I was actually going to get a Chevy Brightdrop but the cargo weight capacity was abysmally low due to how much the batteries weighted it down. It could only carry 1,400 pounds. I only haul around landscaping equipment but damn that's way too low. Even the lowest GVWR LPR is overkill for what I need to haul but better to be safe than sorry.
>>29135618No...They're known as a diesel-electric. If it doesn't have any diesel in it it doesn't move. There is no other source of propulsion. How is that a fucking hybrid? Go watch some fucking Mighty Machines, retard.
>>29136478Everybody else in the World knows they're hybrids so you must be the dumbest fucking retard out there.
>>29136631Please post a single example from a single nation of somebody calling a diesel-electric a hybrid.
>>29136478>How is that a fucking hybrid?because the diesel powerplant powers the electric motors, dumbass
>>29137339Okay now look up the definition of "hybrid". I'll just do it for you. Now go lie down.>A hybrid train is a locomotive, railcar or train that uses an onboard rechargeable energy storage system (RESS), placed between the power source (often a diesel engine prime mover) and the traction transmission system connected to the wheels. Since most diesel locomotives are diesel-electric, they have all the components of a series hybrid transmission except the storage battery, making this a relatively simple prospect.
>>29118067In my country they make big cabovers that americans arent allowed to have.
>>29137323
>>29137643What part of they don't have battery packs are you not grasping?
>>29118155It's so you can talk to the immigrants who've hopped in the back at the border.
>>29118067I think cabovers *look* cooler, but what about the comfort of the driver? I like trucks that have a 1 bedroom apartment attached to them. Where are you supposed to hit the body of a dead lot lizard in your cuckover truck? You expect anyone to drive from Colorado to Maine in those conditions?
What's actually under the cab in a long nose truck anyway?
>>29137977Space to poop down in
>>29137977Transmission, 3 larger air tanks, and fuel tanks mostly. The batteries are in a box behind the driver's steps most of the time too. Passenger steps will sometimes have a storage box equivalent in size to the battery box.
>>29130346>australia has both cabover & conventional trucks, yet cabovers are dominant.They're literally not, it's pretty close to a 50/50 split statistically, they're not "dominant" at all.Like everything it's just using the right tool for the job.
>>2913345453.6 metres is the maximum length before you need a special access permit (basically just limits which roads you can drive on because obviously not all road networks can handle a truck that long), road trains in WA, NT and SA are typically 60-65m long, or 213 feet, but due to the nature of the PBS system (basically you just say you need a bigger truck to be more productive) the sky is the limit, but much bigger than that just isn't practical.So for example where I am in WA we have PBS Level 4B access permits for super quads dump trucks which are typically 60m~ and up to 220 tons.
