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    https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/22/us/ice-agents-mistakenly-detain-us-citizen
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    >>1538830
    Important thread! Will bump!
    >>
    stop resisting you idiots. stay calm and allow them to manhandle and beat the crap out of you, then illegally detain you, and not allow you to contact anyone, then shackle you and send you to some foreign hellhole, and not let anyone know where you are.

    See, it really is that simple. Stop resisting.
    >>
    >>1538835
    This but unironically, if you're innocent than be civil, follow directions, don't fight, and you'll eventually be released when the evidence favors you. Resisting is just more charges and a more difficult process. Resisting arrest has never ended well and you'll end up apprehended anyways. Remain calm, remain professional, keep a cool head, and you'll be fine.
    >>
    >>1538835
    >ICE agents looking for fugitive known to hang out in [location]
    >See guy who looks like their guy
    >He refuse to identify
    >He resists being detained
    >Gets man-handled
    Is this really that complicated, or controversial?
    >>
    >>1538840
    >Is this really that complicated
    Criminals have a hard time obeying the law because of mental illness or some other maladaptive genetic disorder.
    >>
    I am hot for asians in gestapo nazi uniforms, unironically.
    >>
    >>1538839
    On paper, you're correct. The smart thing to do if you have done nothing wrong is to not physically resist and let the proper authorities sort it out.
    In practice, people are impersonating ICE and raping women. ICE is detaining people and stealing their groceries. ICE is detaining people who don't even share the name on their warrants, they're even shooting people they've detained!
    So people are right to be scared. They have good reason to believe harm might come to them if they allow people claiming to be ICE to take them into custody, whether those people are actually ICE or not.
    "Don't resist police" is practical advice. But pretending that people can simply assume that whoever is taking them into custody is legitimate, that the detention is lawful, and that they'll be treated safely once they're detained is fucking absurd given reality.
    Congrats, fuckhead. Your public policy distorted reality so much the should-be common-sense answer you're condescending to the board with is objectively wrong, and now you're blaming people for being afraid of the consequences you helped create.
    Fuck you, bootlicker.
    >>
    >>1538857
    Anything you say, Rabbi Shlomo
    >>
    >>1538857
    >fucking absurd given reality
    Imagine being legally detained by a LEO and thinking you are about to get sent to the gulag. Retarded.
    >condescending to the board
    This board is dead. There's four users here on any given day and one of them is using a LLM to copy the syntax of the others. Nobody cares.
    >>
    >>1538857
    On paper, ICE is exactly as you describe it and the protesters are acting exactly as you pretend. In practice, """protesters""" are actually running over federal agents, burning down entire city blocks, and preparing ambushes to kill ICE
    >>
    >>1538857
    something, something Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment.

    Look, it works in theory, but ICE and DHS do not follow Consitutional law, because they don't have to. The worst part is, the folks who really love the Second Amendment are openly supporting these agencies, right up until it's someone they know being seized off the street. The leopards aren't suppoed to eat MY face!
    >>
    >>1538830
    Post the fucking article you useless sack of shit.
    >>
    >>1538861
    >Fourth Amendment

    J.D. Vance has defended the policy of ICE agents raiding homes without a Judge's warrant.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2026/01/22/vance-defends-ice-memo-telling-agents-they-can-raid-homes-without-a-judges-warrant/


    https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d
    >>
    >>1538861
    >The leopards aren't suppoed to eat MY face!
    There is no leopard. There is just federal law enforcement enforcing federal law.
    >>
    >>1538871
    >J.D. Vance has defended the policy of ICE agents raiding homes without a Judge's warrant
    Yes, and?
    >>
    >>1538861
    >The worst part is, the folks who really love the Second Amendment are openly supporting these agencies,
    My my, how the tables have turned. Where was the support for us when the pendulum was on your side? Now you want to get upset when it happens to you? Get fucked.
    >The leopards aren't suppoed to eat MY face!
    Oh the irony!
    >>
    >>1538840
    How bout
    >Fuck you, pig. I don’t owe you shit
    Did all those bumper stickers with the snakes mean nothing to you?
    >>
    >>1538878
    Obviously they'll be fine with Americans being rounded up and sent to camps in the street since they're fine with it now.
    America will be objectively be better off when MIGA are culled, it'll solve all the problems those retards claim immigrants cause
    >>
    >>1538878
    >Fuck you, pig. I don’t owe you shit
    You end up featuring in a news story about how the feds (lawfully) beat the breaks off you.

    >bumper stickers with the snakes mean nothing to you?
    They mean a lot. What they don't mean is ignore the lawfully passed, and constitutionally constrained, law.
    >>
    >>1538879
    >Obviously they'll be fine with Americans being rounded up and sent to camps in the street since they're fine with it now.
    Illegals like you are not Americans. Cry as hard as you want, they do not belong here.
    >>
    >>1538879
    Wrong. Also:
    >MIGA
    Brown.
    >>
    >>1538880
    You dont owe fake police anything, especially if you haven’t done anything wrong
    >Dont tread on me unless youre the Feds, then its “harder, daddy”
    >>
    >>1538883
    >>>1538880 #
    >You dont owe fake police anything
    You do, actually.
    >>Dont tread on me unless youre the Feds, then its “harder, daddy”
    Nope.
    >>
    >>1538879
    >America will be objectively be better off when MIGA are culled
    That one over there officer.
    >>
    >>1538883
    >You dont owe fake police anything
    Misinformation like this is what gets people hurt.

    First, if they are executing a warrant they have pretty much the same powers as any other cop.

    Second, generally, they are allowed to interrogate any person (without a warrant) they reasonably believe to be an alien about their right to be present in the United States.

    2 seconds on google. That's all it takes to avoid being a moron.
    >>
    >>1538890
    8 CFR 241.2
    8CFR 287.5

    That's the law. Why are you knowingly spreading disinformation? Do you want citizens to get hurt?
    >>
    >>1538893
    esl shill knows they're wrong, they they just think if they suck enough israeli dick they'll get to be a us citizen
    >>
    >support removals? you must be a zionist!
    THEY ARE THE ONES PUSHING FOR MASS MIGRATION YOU PANTONE 448 C SKIN TONE FUCK
    EVERY TIME THE US DESTABILIZES A NATION THE BROWNS FLOOD INTO THE WEST
    FALSE DICHOTOMY WIELDING SHILL
    >>
    >>1538893
    >>1538894
    >Gets btfo
    >Starts talking to himself
    >>
    >>1538895
    >>1538896
    >False flagging
    Just posting the law has caused a MASSIVE meltdown.
    >>
    >>1538900
    I don't think esl shill speaks English well enough to understand schizo poster was agreeing with them
    >>
    >>1538860
    I appreciate that you don't even deny that ICE are exactly as >>1538857 describes.

    >>1538872
    >The leopards are enforcing the law by not following the law.
    >>
    >>1538902
    It'd be weird that they're arguing that Biden could have authorized Feds to shoot anyone wandering outside without masks during COVID, but that would presume they're not massive hypocrites who hate America
    >>
    >>1538902
    >>The leopards are enforcing the law by not following the law
    They are following the law, it's been posted in this every thread.
    >>
    >>1538903
    Biden did actually arrest US citizens for disobeying social distancing rules during COVID.
    This is only a non-issue for libs because it affected American citizens.
    >>
    >>1538908
    Hey, actual english speaker reviewing these logs:
    Your translation service sucks, this doesn't have anything to do with the post its replying to
    Fix your shit
    >>
    >>1538908
    >Biden did actually arrest US citizens for disobeying social distancing rules during COVID.
    Gonna need to see some evidence for your claim.

    I can find evidence that disagrees with you:
    https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/who-did-not-order-biden-arrest-americans-sharing-non-mainstream-opinions-2023-10-10/
    https://politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/23/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-claims-biden-wants-prosecute-churchg/
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    >>1538891
    > 8 CFR § 241.2 - Warrant of removal.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/241.2

    Why are you posting this in regards to US citizens? Those can't be validly issued for us citizens.
    >>
    >>1538889
    >interrogate
    >>1538891
    detainment is not interrogation.
    >>
    >>1538916
    You absolutely know you're talking to ESL shill if they post 'evidence' that discredits their claims
    >>
    >>1538916
    And in the case in the OP the person wouldn't identify themselves. So, they have a warrant, they have a guy they think is their guy, they can detain him until they know (or should know) he isn't their guy.

    Dude, I post like I'm talking to adults capable of critical thinking. If you're going to act retarded, and force me to spell everything out for you, I'm going to treat you like a retard.

    >>1538917
    You can lawfully detain someone to confirm their identity.
    >>
    >esl shill continues to humiliate themselves
    >>
    >>1538923
    >And in the case in the OP the person wouldn't identify themselves
    Yeah according to ICE, who have notoriously never lied following a brutality incident.
    >>
    >>1538926
    Yes anon. They did it for the memes. It definitely was not a case of >>1538880
    >Fuck you pig I don't owe you shit
    Followed by a (lawful and totally justified) beat down.
    >>
    >>1538916
    Denaturalization can happen to US citizens anon.
    >>
    >>1538925
    Two sources were posted, what does the other one say?
    >>
    >>1538928
    Only naturalized citizens.
    >>
    >>1538910
    >anon pretends to not understand that this entire conversation is being made in the context of whether or not ICE is a legitimate use of force
    Retarded or leftist, call it.
    >>1538914
    https://abc7.com/post/dad-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-for-social-distancing-violation/6086163/
    >>
    >>1538929
    You think they're good enough to be part of a shill farm?
    >>
    >>1538931
    Oh, you're the angry schizo. No more (You)'s.
    >>
    >>1538932
    Still US citizens though.
    >>
    >>1538936
    according to esl shills, the links provided in this thread prove ICE can beat and kill US citizens for no reason
    If it doesn't make sense, congratulations: You don't have brain problems
    >>
    >>1538830
    paste the article text
    >>
    >>1538938
    its double false equivalence, because OP's story involves a citizen who never committed a crime being beaten up, where their shitty counterexample involves a man openly committing a crime and being treated politely.
    >>
    >>1538927
    >Yes anon. They did it for the memes
    Why do you think they'll lie about the circumstances for shooting someone and not for a simple assault?
    >>
    >>1538902
    >I appreciate that you don't even deny that ICE are exactly as >>1538857 describes.
    They did misquote me as saying protestors though, which I didn't. Pretti was a protestor, but he was also being detained. They took his gun from him. They misfired it. They killed him while he was in their custody, unarmed and restrained by multiple people. What pussies.
    The other examples are taken from news stories about people ICE and people impersonating ICE (because it's a bad fucking idea to have an anonymous gestapo) have detained, but they're not going to address them, because they're so fucking retarded that they're going to pick the most polarizing and sensational example. Funny enough, they're not even doing that, they had to pivot to Good who wasn't being restrained and who I didn't even bring up, because her case is more ambiguous even though they explicitly train you not to stand in front of vehicles and the dude who murdered her was clearly not in danger based on the video feed.
    >>1538937
    I saw a hemmingway quote randomly in my feed today. "Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know." Said some time before he blew his fucking brains out with a shotgun.
    Must be nice to be one of these fucking MIGA retards and not realize the water's gradually getting warmer, huh?
    >>1538938
    "BuT jOe BiDeN!!!" is literally their only move.
    >>
    >>1538928
    >Denaturalization can happen to US citizens anon.
    That effectively never happens. And ICE isn't in charge of that.
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    >>1538933
    >https://abc7.com/post/dad-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-for-social-distancing-violation/6086163/
    That happened under trump, not biden.
    >Wednesday, April 8, 2020
    >>
    >>1538962
    >>1538963
    no, thats trolling. you're being trolled.
    >>
    >>1538967
    they're not actually being trolled, dummy
    >>
    >>1538938
    >>1538941
    because that's the kind of shit you democrats have been doing for the last decade. disgusting vile hypocrites.

    I hope trump makes an example out of you, every week 2 random far-left domestic terrorists on reddit should be arrested by the FBI and bought to the grounds to be publically shamed with their posts floating above them in a giant screen with people taking turns to stone them, whoever knocks them out wins 10 grand.
    >>
    >>1538830
    Oh no that's like 6 negative incidents (if this is true which it probably isn't).
    We MUST stop all immigration enforcement NOW!
    >>
    >>1538857
    Everything you say about ICE was actually done by people enforcing COVID rules
    >>
    >>1538988
    Yeah, I remember the people who got shot and rapped for not wearing masks. Shit was wild.
    >>
    >>1538944
    >"BuT jOe BiDeN!!!" is literally their only move.
    It's more like
    >you're a fucking retard for supporting tyrannical administrations because the shit they do can set a new standard and be used against you or the people you care about in the future
    >>
    >>1538830
    Let me guess, its another 'citizen' named Rodrigo Marengo Cortez or some stupid shit like that. Governments have no business selling citizenship to brown invaders for any reason and we'll all be better off once every single one is deported.
    >>
    >>1539004
    My bet is on a protester gone wild.
    >>
    >>1538857
    lol imagine licking the assholes of illegal immigrants, and having the nerve to call other's bootlickers.
    lmao.
    >Corporate needs those illegals to keep wages low!
    The sad part is you don't even know whose boot your licking, liggeral scum.
    >>
    >>1538871
    >Fucks given meter reads 0
    Looks like no one cares but you.
    >>
    >>1539007
    >lol imagine licking the assholes of illegal immigrants
    Tossing a latin lady's salad can make for a great evening, you should try it sometime Connie closet case. Oh wait, yeah, you're more into getting fucked by creepy old men.
    >having the nerve to call other's bootlickers
    It's others. It is plural, not possessive. If it were possessive it'd be others'. God fucking damn it, connie, how long have you been speaking English on this board? You need to study harder.
    >faggot screeching
    Unironically calling out hypocrisy... for defending corporate interests... with the shit-covered cock of the man-baby who championed the big, beautiful bill in your mouth....
    Interesting meta commentary.
    Imagine being such a fucking retard you support a literal fascist regime that openly attempts to censor the media and has a gestapo that deports and even kills US citizens... and then criticizing other people for being bootlickers. What a fucking propagandist pussy.
    >>
    >>1538859
    They hold people in gulag-like conditions for as long as legally possible, assuming they remember how long that is and don't overshoot it. Then they dump them out somewhere random, sometimes in the middle of the night during winter in a northern state, with no phone or coat or anything.
    >>
    >>1539048
    if its a democrat its well deserved
    >>1539039
    ahh yes coming from the nepobaby party whose both anti-science anti-common sense, anti feminist and is actively screeching that everything that goes against their narrative is some sort of facist phobia or a statistical abnomally.
    >>
    >>1539058
    you're literally too stupid to be considered a homo sapien.
    >>
    >>1539048
    So?
    >>
    >>1539062
    So? Enjoy living in 3rd World Hell, neophyte.
    >>
    >>1539067
    What?
    >>
    >>1539048
    >They hold people in gulag-like conditions for as long as legally possible,
    They live better than our prison inmates. I remember when you retards made a big deal about them drinking water from the same device they take a shit in, deliberately misleading people into thinking they're drinking toilet water, and not from THE WATER FOUNTAIN BUILT ON TOP OF THE METAL TOILET LIKE ALL PRISONS IN AMERICA HAVE, designed as one piece and delivering clean drinking water. They're criminals, that get treated like criminals, and get the same amenities as criminals. Calling their conditions "gulag-like", when they're being treated better than American criminals, is more of your misleading bullshit.
    >>
    >>1539069
    >deliberately misleading people into thinking they're drinking toilet water,
    who did this and when?
    >>
    >>1539070
    AOC, Joaquin Castro, etc. Last year. lol fucking AOC claimed she was "sexually threatened" by CBP officers during their tour of the facility. Of course no fucking proof of that either.
    >>
    >>1539075
    The magaberg trials will really be something to behold
    >>
    >>1539075
    >lol fucking AOC claimed she was "sexually threatened" by CBP officers during their tour of the facility. Of course no fucking proof of that either.
    You know other than the facebook group full of CBP officers doing exactly that.
    >https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/border-patrol-doctored-aoc-photo-b1946954.html
    Only two of them got fired over it.
    >>
    >>1539069
    >>1539075
    Yeah they weren't talking about the little water fountains on top of the toilets. They were talking about cells with nonworking water fountains or sinks where detainees were being told to drink from the toilet itself because the sink/water fountain was broken and they refused to fix it.
    >https://www.businessinsider.com/photo-hybrid-toilet-drinking-fountain-cbp-centers-2019-7

    This has also been mentioned in multiple lawsuits against these facilities that they regularly leave detainees in cells flooded from their toilets and without working water. At least one of these lawsuits resulted in a court order for ICE to improve conditions at the facility.
    >https://www.lawcommentary.com/articles/ice-26-federal-plaza-detainee-conditions-permanent-injunction
    >>
    >>1539084
    >You know other than the facebook group full of CBP officers doing exactly that.
    During the tour of the facility?

    >>1539086
    Yeah I'm not seeing anything in your lawcommentary article about water fountains not working. All you have is AOC's claim, and I'm going to need more evidence than some hyperbolic retard who thinks she's being raped by ICE during a congressional tour.
    >>
    >>1539091
    >During the tour of the facility?
    Yeah because I'm supposed to believe she lied about them sexually harassing her while she was there even though they literally had an entire facebook group where they routinely made edits of her being raped. A facebook group that was private until it got leaked AFTER she made the allegations. Yeah, right.

    >Yeah I'm not seeing anything in your lawcommentary article about water fountains not working. All you have is AOC's claim, and I'm going to need more evidence than some hyperbolic retard who thinks she's being raped by ICE during a congressional tour.
    This is because they're separate incidents showing they regularly let these cells go to shit and fill with toilet water. The water claim was back in 2019. This was now. It shows they still are keeping people in such subhuman conditions they get court orders to improve them, which doesn't line up with your "They're treated better than American prisoners!" bullshit.
    >>
    >>1539084
    Also,
    >You know other than the facebook group full of CBP officers doing exactly that.
    >the facebook group full of CBP officers
    >full of CBP officers
    >18 people
    >out of almost 10,000
    >full
    Yeah I forgot my incel racism forum was full of Active Duty Army, because even though I'm one person out of 20, my presence somehow counts as the majority. Holy shit, why is the Army so racist?
    >>
    >>1539093
    >even though they literally had an entire facebook group
    And there it is again. Prove to me that all 9,500 members of that facebook group were government employees.

    >This is because they're separate incidents
    Oh okay, do you have a court order or some kind of official document showing that the water fountains didn't work, or do you expect me to just believe that retarded cunt?

    Spoiler alert: no.
    >>
    >>1539095
    Don't rape anyone esl shill
    >>
    >>1539097
    Imagine the mental dissonance from having to pretend to be as retarded they are in this thread deliberately ignoring evidence, to flipping the script and making up stuff wholesale to justify the orders your shillboss gives you
    ESL shill probably doesn't know what reality is. Actually touching grass would kill them
    >>
    >>1539096
    >>1539095
    >Prove to me that all 9,500 members of that facebook group were government employees.
    The fact over 60 of them were recommended to discipline and 2 were fired? We know they were CPB anon.
    >>
    >>1539098
    >boy there sure are a lot of fags on 4chan
    >yeah I know... at least a dozen of them are democrats
    >why do democrats have a majority in a faggotry website?
    >>
    >>1539099
    >not even 1%
    >the majority
    Do you even math?
    >>
    >>not even 1%
    >>the majority
    apparently when ESL shill smokes drugs, they acknowledge that minorities are unjustly prosecuted because of a few cherry picked criminals.
    Who knew they'd be against ICE?
    >>
    >>1539102
    >illegally enter the country
    >not criminals
    Then why do they call them "illegals" ESL-bot?
    >>
    >>1539101
    When did I say majority? The point was that she claimed she was sexually harassed by the same employees who were then found to all be in a facebook group where they regularly made sexual comments about her and posted images of her being raped.
    >>
    >>1539096
    >Oh okay, do you have a court order or some kind of official document showing that the water fountains didn't work, or do you expect me to just believe that retarded cunt?
    >https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/el-paso-texas-rio-grande-los-angeles-federal-judge-dolly-gee-approves-settlement-with-cbp-border-patrol-dhs-about-housing-of-immigrant-minors-clint-2019-children
    Same facilities had to move about 200+ kids for the exact same shit described by AOC, so yeah I'm starting to think she might've been telling the truth.
    >>
    >>1539105
    >When did I say majority?
    >even though they literally had an entire facebook group
    >entire facebook group
    >entire
    Gee I dunno, anon.

    >The point was that she claimed she was sexually harassed by the same employees who were then found to all be in a facebook group where they regularly made sexual comments about her and posted images of her being raped.
    And I think she's full of shit, about her being gang-raped by ICE during a tour of a facility, and about migrants not having drinking water. Bottom line: if your source is AOC you need to fuck off.
    >>
    >>1539103
    Illegal immigration isn't a crime. They call them illegals to distract from that and dehumanize them.
    >>
    >>1539105
    >When did I say majority?
    You didn't, ESL shill knew they were BTFO and moved the goalposts
    >>
    >>1539109
    Notice how I never said majority and instead pointed out the facebook group used by several verified employees of the facility.

    >And I think she's full of shit, about her being gang-raped by ICE during a tour of a facility, and about migrants not having drinking water. Bottom line: if your source is AOC you need to fuck off.
    Now you're just making shit up and ignoring the multiple things showing she was telling the truth.
    >>
    >>1539108
    >news article doesn't say anything about broken water fountains
    >claims there wasn't water provided according to legal team
    >posts legal team's case in .pdf
    >doesn't say anywhere that CBP failed to provide water, only that the should provide water
    LMAO
    >>
    >>1539110
    >Illegal immigration isn't a crime.
    wew
    >>
    >LMAO LIBS THINK YOU NEED TO DRINK WATER
    ...esl shill, this and the double posting is getting pathetic
    >>
    >>1539113
    >Notice how I never said majority and instead pointed out the facebook group used by several verified employees of the facility.
    >even though they literally had an entire facebook group
    >they
    >entire
    Okay anon.
    >>
    >>1539114
    >>doesn't say anywhere that CBP failed to provide water, only that the should provide water
    You know it's kinda implicit in the statement that they need to start providing adequate water that they weren't fucking doing it before.
    >>
    >>1539109
    >And I think she's full of shit
    Fucking unbeatable argument right there. Pack it in boys.

    >>1539116
    Yup. Civil offense in most cases.

    >>1539118
    You're whinging over semantics because that anon is kicking your ass otherwise.
    >>
    >>1539119
    Y'know I'm kinda still waiting on a reliable source that shows the water fountains didn't work.

    And no, AOC is not a reliable source.

    >>1539121
    >Yup. Civil offense in most cases.
    Which is a crime?
    >yeah they're committing a crime, but it's not a super bad crime like murder so it doesn't count as a crime at all
    Fucking unbeatable argument right there. Pack it in boys.
    >>
    >>1539122
    >Which is a crime?
    Nope.
    >>
    >>1539123
    >Nope.
    Yup. 8 U.S.C. § 1325
    >>
    >>1539125
    >most
    >>
    >>1539126
    >any
    >>
    >>1539127
    Who quote?
    >>
    >>1539128
    8 U.S.C. § 1325
    >>
    >>1539130
    Great. That doesn't refute my point, you dumb fuck. Not every illegal immigrant did the things listed in 8 U.S.C. § 1325. Certainly not all the people ICE is rounding up.
    >>
    >>1539132
    >Great. That doesn't refute my point, you dumb fuck.
    It literally does. It's a crime.
    >Not every illegal immigrant did the things listed in 8 U.S.C. § 1325.
    They came into the country illegally. That is a crime. Holy shit, am I talking to a fucking bot?
    >>
    >>1539132
    See why it's futile to argue with esl shill. His own sources refute him anyways, just call him a dumb faggot
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    >>1539134
    >It literally does. It's a crime.
    8 U.S.C. § 1325 states that entering the country illegally is a crime. Not every illegal immigrant entered the country illegally.
    >They came into the country illegally.
    Some did. Others didn't. Missed a court date, paperwork didn't file right, asylum was denied, TPS revoked, etc.
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    >>1539136
    >Missed a court date,
    >or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers,
    >paperwork didn't file right,
    >(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact,
    >asylum was denied,
    And they refuse to leave? In that case, yeah it would be a different law - failure to depart. Which is also a crime. So yeah, they're still criminals.
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    >>1539139
    Get a real job faggot
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    >>1539139
    If you're just going to just twist anything to fit anything then alright, I'll leave you to that.
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    >>1539143
    >quoting the law is twisting anything to fit
    >ragequitting
    I accept your concession that illegals are criminals, hence the name.
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    >>1539145
    You lost the moment you included your source esl shill. Or perhaps you lost the moment you gave up on having a respectable occupation
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    >>1539139
    thats only if they get a final order of removal in court. ICE also targets people who havent recieved that order.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1253

    Not leaving after your visa expires is not a crime.
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    >>1539075
    Source?
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    >>1539095
    >>1539113

    It was specifically a border patrol facebook group: https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes
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    >>1539091
    >>1539086
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/migrants-largest-us-detention-camp-face-foul-water-rotten-food-congresswoman-2025-11-11/
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    >>1539156
    Kinda based tbh
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    >>1539172
    >a gop supporter defends sexual harassment.
    many such cases
    >>
    esl shill doesn't just defend rapists
    esl shill doesn't just defend pedophiles
    esl shill also defends corruption
    you just need to dangle race bait in front of MIGA and they'll excuse so much corruption
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    >>1539213
    you just assert people are pedophiles and rapists without any proof.
    Trump was never charged as a pedophile or a rapist. You are living in a Q anon alternate dimension where Trump and Epstein are best buddies.
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    >>1539214
    Yeah, because the pedophiles and rapists are sitting on the proof.
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    >>1539215
    This would make a lot of sense if history started on January 20th 2025
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    >>1539219
    What?
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    >>1539235
    I think they're arguing that Trump released the epstien files when his second term started. It's a confusingly bad argument considering he still hasn't released all the files to the point where he's breaking the law for not releasing them. It's also really fucking suspicious for him to keep lying about having released them all, knowing full well he hasn't.
    It's also a whataboutism. "The last admin is corrupt and didn't release the files! That means this admin isn't corrupt for not releasing the files!" Because two is a lot for a MIGA retard to count to.
    >>1539214
    >Trump and Epstien are best buddies.
    We know, they hung out all the time, there's so much media of them hanging out you'd have to be a fucking moron to claim they weren't well acquainted.
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    >>1539292
    What is the proof?
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    >>1539235
    If history started on January 20th 2025 nobody else could have released the files. So you would have pedophiles in charge who are the only people who can release information that would expose their own pedophilia

    If history starts before January 20th 2025 that means there are other people who had all the power and authority to expose Pedos and didn't do it "for some reason" and it brings up a bunch of inconvenient questions. Like why didn't the democrats release the files exposing Trump as a pedophile and win the 2024 election?
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    >why didn't democrats stop me from raping children?
    Because the goal was never to stop children from being abused, it was to attack democrats.
    MIGA is fine with the billionaire pedophile ring.
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    >>1539304
    If Democrats had proof that Trump was raping kids, why did they sit on it for 4 years?
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    >>1539305
    Because the Epstein records fully validate every neonazi conspiracy theory.
    Epstein admitted to his friends via emails, without anybody putting a gun to his head, that jews control the world and that they believe non-jews don't have the same souls as jews do.
    This is the exact same reason they're refusing to comply with the DOJ and release all of them.
    In the 1930's nazis were screaming that jews spread degeneracy by selling pornography and prostituting kid, then in 2025 these files come out showing that Les Wexner was using Epstein as a """"talent agent"""" in his Lingerie company to recruit underaged girls for """modelling""".
    I mean jesus christ.
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    >>1539306
    don't bother replying to the esl shill
    they're not trying to protect children, they just want to attack democrats like they're hired to do
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    >>1539306
    This is why we need Hasan or Fuentes as president
    >>1539308
    I found it strange you never answered my question. Why did Biden not release the files if they implicated Trump?
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    >>1539309
    NTA but do you seriously not understand why? because they implicate more than just trump, you retard. there are democrats in them too. both parties have evil fucked up paedophiles. any more retarded questions?
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    >>1539219
    >>1539303
    >>1539305
    >>1539309

    https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/


    >Epstein case was an open investigation under Biden

    >The Epstein case was an open criminal investigation during the Biden administration, Miami Herald investigative reporter Julie K. Brown explained on social media. Brown’s extensive reporting since 2017 has shone a light on the crimes of Epstein and his longtime accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. Her book about Epstein, titled “Perversions of Justice,” is a New York Times bestseller.

    >“They had an open grand jury. … And even after Maxwell’s conviction, the case was on appeal — anyone in law enforcement knows you don’t open your case file when it’s still under appeal,” Brown added.

    >Victims were still going to the FBI with information during Biden’s term, but that changed when President Donald Trump’s Department of Justice reviewed the files and closed the case in July, Brown said.
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    >>1539214
    >You are living in a Q anon alternate dimension where Trump and Epstein are best buddies.
    Are you from an alternate dimension?

    >Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/

    >Jeffrey Epstein described himself as Donald Trump’s “closest friend” and claimed intimate knowledge of his proclivity for sex, including cuckolding his best friends, according to recordings obtained exclusively by the Daily Beast.

    >The convicted pedophile even boasted of his closeness to Trump and his now-wife Melania by claiming, “the first time he slept with her was on my plane,” which was dubbed the Lolita Express.
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    >>1539330
    Trump banned Epstein from the Mar-A-Lago.
    You are saying Epstein said it therefor it is true. You are taking the word of a disgraced pedophile as gospel. Why?
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    >>1539355
    Reminder that we have statements from Epstein's own emails that he was meeting with members of the Trump family in the vicinity of Mar-A-Lago, if not directly there, well past not just his "ban" date, but also past the point where his crimes were known.

    That ban was optics, nothing more. They obviously stayed in contact afterwards.
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    >>1539359
    Trump is a confirmed rapist who has openly said he's attracted to young girls.
    MIGA jump through hoops pretending he's not a pedophile
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    >>1538830
    Do we have an update on this, or is it still nebulous bullshit?
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    >>1539370
    We didn't elect him for his sexual habits, we elected him to deport browns. Show us another qualified cantidate willing to get as many Mexicans to fuck off home and we'll consider him.
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    >>1539359
    Okay great. How were those emails corroborated?
    Epstein said he was meeting with the Trumps, what is the proof that it happened?
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    >>1539330
    Epstein also said he was best friends with Bill Clinton, and had a birthday card from bill in his birthday book. Do you think they were best friends because Epstein said so?
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    >>1539568
    >we elected him to deport browns.
    And so far he's deporting the browns who actually tried to do better for themselves and not being annoying scum, while letting cartel agents and other petty criminals stay safely and unbothered. I guess ICE isn't interested in trying to beat up people that will fight back with lethal force on average
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