"Wofür ist das?"-EditionAnything public transport in German-speaking Europe is fair game.
https://www.rnz.de/region/regionalticker/polizeiberichte_artikel,-MannheimHeidelberg-Zug-verliert-bei-voller-Fahrt-eine-Tuer-Update-plus-Video-_arid,1526469.htmlWelche Baureihe ist das?
>>2035896That is a cheap elongation of the useful length of the table. You can place a newspaper on it so it doesn't fold at the bottom or a laptop computer (lower end of the base on the metal pipe, upper end on the table) and use the space behind it.>>2036125Bombardier Talent 2, BR442 in the grey, black and yellow "BeWegt" livery.
>>2036141>BR442Thanks.>yellow "BeWegt" liveryYou certainly wouldn't want to have stood on that platform.
sometimes i lean on those doors on my commute and fantasize about one of them breaking and sucking me out and the train turning me into a gnarly mess of flesh and bloodi knew someone who joined DB as a conductor then one hot summer day on the job she probably passed out on the platform, slipping between the platform and the train as it started to roll, immediately and gruesomely killing her. she left her husband and a then 7yo kid. sad way to go.
you might laugh at the video in OP, but it took me a while to find out that you pull the table towards you in the ICE 4 trains.In other news, if you want to buy your own ICE, DB is selling their BR406 train sets. a couple of them still have the logo of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen on them, even after they sold them to DB. I just saw one in Frankfurt today on its way to the Ruhrpott joined with a normal ICE 3 BR403. I like the OG black info screens that they still have.
Took the train to Germany last weekend. On the way there it was an SBB GmbH service, but it was crowded like a sardine can. Awful.On the way back it was a DB train. Really dirty inside and outside. Aren't german trains ever cleaned?The end.
>>2036195sure but the cleaning units are chronically understaffed. finding people willing to do those kinds of jobs is tough.
>>2036199Yeah who wants to clean shit for the minimum wage.
>>2036165>BR406Which series is that? I can never keep the ICE 3s apart.
>>2036237it's the international version of the original ICE 3 with multisystem capabilities. they ran on the Frankfurt - Amsterdam and Frankfurt - Brussels lines and originally to Paris as well. the constant switching between different current systems wore down the electrical components and made the BR406 really unreliable.
>>2036199Take the benefits away from lazy migrants and they'll find people.
the fucking tomato juice is the cheapest beverage in the ICE Bordbistro lol.
>>2036624>They should [...] have people on both ends to catch these niggers.I have seen that happen on RRX once or twice, but it's really not a common occurrence, that they do that.At the moment there is ZERO reason to schwarzfahren in Germany.You WILL get caught at least once a month and have paid more than the regular fare with that.The monthly chunk of social security earmarked for mobility is higher than the price of a D-ticket.Anyone, that at this point intentionally skips the fare is pure evil. Take them to court!
>>2036637>Take them to court!At this point in Germany the court case would either be simply dismissed or the poor hard working skilled workers would get a D-Ticket for a year for free to be able to go after their legitimate business. Also the ticket controller who caught them would get a 1500€ fine and a year in prison for racism.
Where were you when DSO died?I was out photographing train when friend call"DSO is kill""No"
>>2037205who knew it ran on the same IT infrastructure as Deutsche Bahn.
>>2037205At least they got a "maintenance" screen in front of that mess now.It's in a better state than the 4chins of old with its MYSQL ERROR:...s.>>2037206Well, the more recent troubles with DB's IT are different in nature: >>>/wsg/5841512
what do you guys think about westbahn expanding down to graz? i like westbahn more than obb so im pretty stoked
>>2037205>Wegen eines Problems mit den Foren, bleiben diese bis auf Weiteres außer Betrieb.>Einen Termin für die Wiederinbetriebnahme können wir nicht nennen.What happen? A hack or a spontaneous self-combustion?
>>2037348Wonder how they will do with 3 Girunos running a schedule for 3 trains without any reserve. And they can't dig up a spare 1144+Cityshuttle somewhere, like ÖBB did so far.
>>2037348the comfort plus seats are 1st class seats being in use by SBB. that's clearly the choice for Klimaticket owners instead of suffering in the Railjets.>>2037357I hated beta testing the Giruni as passenger, but they seem to run reliably now. they could ask SBB to lease a train, but on the other hand SBB and ÖBB are working together as state owned operators.makes me wonder if they keep the trains when the Semmeringtunnel opens. they could do cross-border services like Vienna - Venice or Vienna - Munich - Zürich/Frankfurt.
>2nd ring line with Elbquerung to Finkenwerder>looong U5>Geesthacht gets 3 connectionsngl, that would be pretty cool. unrealistic sadly
>>2037820ring line sounds nice. something Bavarians couldn't come up with in Munich.
>>2037916the Munich S/U-Bahn network would have so much potential if it didn't have the shape of a starfish. and the planned 2nd S-Bahn trunk line won't make it any better. at least they have a tram network to compensate for lacking cross connections.Hamburg has an (underdimensioned) ring line with the U3, but no tram. we'd have first class transit with a larger ring line and a tram network. but for now, Berlin has Munich & Hamburg beat despite being the poorest of the three cities
>>2037102what a braindead unreality post
Die DB hat, was Reisendeninformationen angeht, nun einen "Single Point of Truth":https://www.heise.de/news/Prognoseautomat-Wie-KI-die-Reiseinformation-bei-der-Bahn-verbessern-soll-10343289.htmlBald also vielleicht nicht mehr abweichende Informationen auf Zugzielanzeiger und in der Äpp? Wäre ein Fortschritt.Wobei ich hoffe, dass dieser "Single Point of Truth" in einer verteilten Art und Weise gestaltet ist, sodass die Ausfallsicherheit gewahrt bleibt.
What's your favorite CHAD transport company acronym? For me it's VAG (Nürnberg/Fürth) and FART (Locarno).
>>2038917DING and bodo are pretty ebin
>>2038917For Nürnberg it's actually VGN although that admittedly doesn't make much of a difference
Seit heute:https://news.sbb.ch/medien/artikel/113076/einzelne-verbindungen-von-und-nach-deutschland-mit-umsteigenDie EuroCity 7 und 9 enden ab sofort in Basel.Die Züge in Gegenrichtung (EC6 und EC8) verkehren auf ganzer Länge.
Weeks later I realize that I mixed things up:VAG is the Nuremberg transit companyVGN is the regional transit authority
>>2039200Common germ L
>>2039200this is just official now, in reality the majority of these trains arrived late in Basel and ended there. that was my experience when I used the EC 8 all the way from Hamburg in the panorama coach. a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday I caught the EC 6 within Switzerland. as it arrived late, it was used on the IC6 service and continued to Domodossola, Italy instead of Interlaken. the train itself arrived really dirty as it transported lots of football fans earlier (the train goes via Münster-Dortmund-Düsseldorf-Köln, go figure). all that wasted Flaschenpfand on the beer bottles, one could buy another train ticket.I can't count how many times my ICE ended prematurely in Basel Badischer Bahnhof instead of Basel SBB, which really sucks in the evening, when you want to catch one of the remaining trains to the rest of Switzerland.
Frage an die Ösis an der Stelle: Ist die Westbahn besser?(Für den Fall, dass es mal wieder nach Wien gehen sollte.)
In other news: If railways don't start upping their autonomous driving game, freight rail is fucked.>>>/wsg/5873181And autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger rail, if they aren't properly integrated in a multi-modal mobility-as-a-service solution.
>>2040443>autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger railnot gonna happen, as their throughput is simply too low. they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is. metro and suburban rail networks will become automated first. already planned for the Hamburg S-Bahn and new metro line U5. tho autonomous minibusses are also in the works, but only to increase coverage for low density areas underserved by regular busses
>>2040470>they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is.Tesla is putting a lot of effort into it to make it scale. (Including autonomous Tesla-busses.)Tesla owners will be able to rent-out their cars as taxis through a maker-operated platform. Self-driving obviously helps a lot with this.The optimum would obviously be to have on-demand vehicles for the last-mile to and from the closest station to offer an integrated solution at scale.If public transit operators don't start putting some effort into that, (US) car makers will make them redundant. And German car makers' future is also not looking too bright, considering this.Look at >>2040443. That's not a closely controlled experiment, but regular operation on public roads. The future is already here and it won't wait for us, if we don't get up to speed.
Reminder that the WSV (Wasserstraßen- und Schifffahrtsverwaltung des Bundes) offers free ferry rides across the NOK. Ideal for hikers and bikers, as there are only few bridges.https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/1_Fahrplaene/Fahrplaene_node.htmlThe locations (pic related):https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/3_welche_faehre_faehrt_wo/welche_faehre_faehrt_wo_node.htmlI can also recommend taking the train to Rendsburg, as the view from the bridge is spectacular.
What are the "best" railway museums in Germany?
>>2040782DB museum in Nürnberg is OK. not that much in terms of rolling stock, but the history is well documented with rail related items. I haven't been to the one in Koblenz, I think they have some older stuff and have some summer festival with lot of opportunities for hobby photographs.French national railway museum is in Mulhouse and can easily be reached from Freiburg or Basel, they have lots of space and tons of rolling stock on display.
>>2040782The Technikmuseum in Berlin has a pretty nice exhibit of locomotives housed in some old roundhouses which originally belonged to the Anhalter Bahnhof (once the biggest train station in the city). They've also got large exhibits on ships and planes, if your /n/-tism swings that way.
Vielleicht doch eine Idee, mal wieder bei den Ösis vorbeizuschneien:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0F4NzdlpAcWobei ich am Ende eher mit einem Seitenhieb auf Berlins U55 (1,8km) gerechnet hatte.
>>2042060That's really cool. I do wonder why they opted for the extra expense of funicular and air cushions. I guess that ski town has (had?) money to spare for projects like that.
>>2042060>RedditMeme TransitDachte der hätte ausgehört.
>>2040308Ja und es gibt mehrere Gründe- Kostet gleich viel aber sauberer und besserer Service- Bei ÖBB wird man evtl. von Platz vertrieben wenn man für diesen keine Reservierung hat, bei Westbahn kannst du über QR-Code direkt am Sitz einchecken und hast dann einen Fixplatz und wirst nicht mehr kontrolliert- bei ÖBB kannst du evtl. nicht einmal in den Zug einsteigen wenn du keine Reservierung hast (starker Reisetag)- ÖBB Vorteilscard (halbiert jeden Ticketpreis) gilt auch für Westbahn- Westbahn ist immer Doppeldecker, dh du kannst wenn du willst immer erhöht sitzenKotzt mich ziemlich an dass ÖBB dich de facto zwingt ne Sitzplatzreservierung zum machen, außer dir gefällt es jederzeit vom Platz vertrieben zu werden (weil "gegebenfall reserviert" sich jederzeit zu "reserviert" ändern kann) oder sogar in einen Zug nicht einsteigen zu dürfen (Zustieg nur mit Reservierung wegen überfülltem Zug)Falls du öfter fährst dann hol dir die app und kauf dir die Tickets damit, dann sammelst du goodboy-points mit denen du entweder Snacks oder ein Upgrade auf Klasse 1 kaufen kannst
>>2042134No idea. I didn't know that channel before.That video simply popped up in my recommendations and I thought, it was intriguing enough to warrant a post to /chad/.
Wie gewonnen: https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/presse/presse-regional/pr-frankfurt-de/presseinformationen-regional/Meilenstein-beim-Wiederaufbau-der-Eifelstrecke-erreicht-13407606So zerronnen: https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/westfalen-lippe/bahn-marode-bruecke-legt-gueterverkehr-lahm-100.htmlWozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?
>>2044977>Wozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?we haven't (yet). and you can bet that even church-run and other private hospitals, senior homes, childcares etc. will be counted as infrastructure spending as well
>Stellwerkstörung KRM>Fliegerbombenentschärfung in Osnabrück>38°C in West GermanyHaha, a perfect day to go to Cologne. Looking forward to regret my decision later traveling with Deutsche Bahn.
>>2046761Senk ju for trävelinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjhszy2f9w
DB is a reflection of present day Germany: a country in decline.Shit never runs on time, trains are dirty, often vandalized, filled with loud Germans or disgusting brown Merkel rapefugees.Absolute nightmare.Polish PKP is nicer.
>>2047106Note that it was the conservative party that financially starved the train system for 20 years, invited the refugees and gutted the social programs keeping them from committing crime. And who now blow up the national debt while handing out tax breaks to the rich and make everything more expensive for everyone else, and refusing to invest in climate adjustments, guaranteeing total collapse of the economy in the next 20 years.Meanwhile the AfD basically wants to do the same things, but harder.Rightoids will drive this country into the ground, just so ultra-rich boomers don't have to sell their third private island.
>>2047114>conservative party>CDU>Cuckservative
>https://www.rtl.de/news/passau-bayern-syrer-20-greift-ice-fahrgaeste-mit-hammer-an-vier-verletzte-id4484274.html
>>2047145see? weapon bans do work. now that it's illegal to carry knives on trains, the attackers are forced to use hammers.
>>2035896>in germany>not germantypical lol
>>2038929>tfw DING customer
https://bahnblogstelle.com/235118/generalsanierung-der-bahnstrecken-soll-sich-bis-2036-verlaengern/Instead of the planned completion date of 2031, the Korridorsanierung will take until 2036. I'm sure DB will use the additional time to equip the routes with ETCS...>>2047114Who gave Merkel a majority for 12 out of her 16 years? And who is now backing Merz's policies?I haven't even started about Klingbeil preventing the NBS Hamburg-Hannover even while CDU/CSU wasn't in power.
>>2048064>ETCSHaven't you heard? Digitization has been cancelled.Enjoy your historic infrastructure for at least another century.DB is fucked. It's genuinely over.Germany will be the last country with man-driven trains within the next decade.
>>2048068Calm down, already.It will be fine. Stop comparing Germany with the rest of the world. We are simply too different.
>>2049386>Switzerland is only a little bigger than Baden-Württemberg.Yeah, OK. So why don't the trains in Baden-Württemberg, the second richest German state, work as well as those in Switzerland?
>>2049393Swtzerland spends a lot more money on trains than germany. About 4x as much per citizen IIRC>Baden-Württemberg, the second richest German stateThis isn't much of a factor
>>2049567Correct, I think we probably spend more public money per capita on public transit than any other cunt in the world.Well spend money if you ask me tho. Taxes are still way lower than in Germoney for example.
>>2049393The image literally says why, you inbred, illiterate moron.
>>2049572That's cause all the rich Germans pay their taxes in Switzerland
>>2049595Please calm down anon, you're making me upset.
>>2049613Nah, it's because our state has a spending crisis.It's spending way too much on shit absolutely no one asked for.And with in the end SPD, Grüne and Linke steering this government by its horns, there is no hope for this getting fixed (for now).The 500+ billion of new debt will probably mostly be used to finance shit from the regular budget, so more bullshit spending on SPD justice projects can happen without getting in conflict with Schuldenbremse.That said, the "Boomer-Soli", if it were to happen, will probably lead to a massive wave of (by no means "rich") people seeking refuge from this socialist government in Germany.
train derailment of a BR 612 of DB (looks like 2 units were attached) on the RE Sigmaringen - Ulm derailed nearby Biberach. possibly did get into a tree or landslide that fell onto the tracks after a heavy thunderstorm. at least 3 dead reported. https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/friedrichshafen/biberach-personenzug-entgleist-100.html
>>2049723rich germans don't pay any taxes>>2049613See above, the issue is a lack of revenue created in the 90s by Kohl admin, and it got worse during the Merkel era. Look into the Thiele inheritance case, shouldn't be anything out of the ordinary but these days it is
>>2049891>rich germans don't pay any taxesThat's simply bullshit. A small fraction of rich people pays over half of the total tax revenue.You MAY argue they are still not paying enough, but at that point: Why should they opt to remain in this country that is controlled by people that actively hate them (like you)?>the issue is a lack of revenue created in the 90s by Kohl admin, and it got worse during the Merkel era.Kohl and Merkel were failed governments, but since you ignore the Schröder and Scholz governments in there, I can guess where you are coming from.Bonn was fine until '82, but especially Berlin has completely wrecked this country and its railway infrastructure.
>>2049889>no Langsamfahrstelle>(most likely) no checks on the state of the hillsides for landslide riskthe train was likely travelling at around 80km/h. this shit is criminally negligent and would have never been allowed to happen on a Bundesstraße under the same conditions.fuck DB InfraGOfuck the BaWü governmentand FUCK the Bundesregierung
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New Austrian train category just droppedToday ÖBB ran their first Interregio between Mallnitz and Salzburg.
>>2050529The train is a 4746 with a couple of leather seats as """first""" class, they could already been seen on various regional trains in the past weeks.Now on the Interregio services, there is a guy selling snacks from a cart. And you could technically reserve seats, but the IR 696 is mostly a commuter train, so I haven't seen anybody doing this.
>>2050529>>2050531Austria might be calling it an Interregio, but it's no Interregio.The standout feature of an Interregio is, that you can also use it with regular short-distance tickets.Austria appears to be going for the by-the-letter interpretation ("between regions"), which loses this standout feature, that made Interregios highly attractive.
>>2036514Saw Boris Becker in an ICE bistro once, on the way to Basel. He had a tomato soup.
>>2050646>>2036514I always thought, tomato liquids were a plane thing?That said, a tomato soup was probably simply by far the cheapest "meal" to secure a seat in the Bordbistro.I faintly remember paying 3 Mark 50 on a ride way, way back.
>ICE-L erhält BetriebserlaubnisI don't trust Talgo to build trains that don't break down. their new high speed trains Talgo Avril had to be grounded for faulty wheels, very trustworthy for a train that does more than 300km/h.I hope they test them throughly until start of the regular service.
>>2051102Talgo must've built the train that crashed at Eschede, as well.
https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.deutsche-bahn-gebrauchte-ice-warten-auf-kaeufer.ed5febe6-3292-42a1-80ba-a0a252bf6425.html>Gebrauchte ICE warten auf KäuferSind potenzielle Kaufinteressierte anwesend?Es geht um ICE 3M.
>Kiel - Hamburgthere is no point in not using the car, even with hamburgs horrible traffic.
Westbahn nearby Vienna was shutdown for a couple of hours because of an elk just enjoying life near the tracks. Austria confirmed for being a Scandinavian country.
>>2053445Is it this story?https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/emil-der-elch-unterwegs-durch-oesterreich-und-social-media,UwDF9ReThe elk apparently came from Czechia.
>>2053448yup, everybody likes Emil the elk, but he's starting to overstay his welcome
>>2053295Würd schon einen nehmen. Was letzte Preis?
>>2053295I thought they would use them for spare parts for the OG ICE 3 BR403s. you would need to overhaul the whole traction system, not really worth the money.
>>2053914>not really worth the moneySo you think, they'll ultimately end up at Bender?
>>2049393>So why don't the trains in Baden-Württemberg, the second richest German state, work as well as those in Switzerland?Don't know about switzerland but in BaWü there's a new company running their own trains every few km which might overcomplicate things.
so about the Stadler KISS trains that DB sold to ÖBB. they are back in service in Germany. some services between München - Salzburg - Wien will use these trains. as they don't have a dining car, they will be branded as IC instead of Railjet.
What does /chad/ think about Frau Palla?
>>2056774Well, let's wish her more "luck" than Nikutta.
I've been thinking of applying for a job at SBB Cargo as a B100 or B driver, when they open up new positions near me (most likely Olten)How bad is the situation there? i heard they are closing a lot of stations in Ticino and eastern switzerlandAnd there is also an opening in a local railway near me, but i feel like that might get old fast since they have a very limited network.What should I do?
>>2057677idk I applied various times before the coof and never got a reply. Eventually I just got myself a different job. If they don't have enough people at any time it's def their own fault.That said, if I had the choice I'd drive freight trains rather than passengers. Dunno why seems more chill and comfy. Probably more shunting and waiting at red lights rather than zooming down the line pressured to keep the schedule.
>>2057684>if I had the choice I'd drive freight trains rather than passengers. Dunno why seems more chill and comfyThat is my thought as well. also i can't stress how short that local line is. it's only a bit over 30km of tracks, mostly single lane. and i fear that it will get old really fast, unlike shunting/ freight trains where you have a bit more varietey and have to get out to couple and and uncouple carsalso SBB Cargos heavy shunters look cool as fuck
some random news:>SBB picked Siemens to deliver new S-Bahn trains Stadler are really sore losers about this decision, it's embarassing.>Italian private high speed operator italo announced that their plans to enter the German market are in an advanced stageDidn't have them on the radar. Italian state railways FS/trenitalia announced earlier that they want to enter the German high speed rail market, they already run several regional lines with their Netinera company (e.g Alex in Bavaria). It will be a complicated relationship with DB as they work together on the planned Berlin - Naples train.And besides I wonder how InfraGO can fit more trains on the German rails with flixtrain having new trains on order as well.
>>2058349>And besides I wonder how InfraGO can fit more trains on the German rails with flixtrain having new trains on order as well.DB Fernverkehr trains and some local services will need to get cut or moved for those.Flixtrain plans additional international services on a cyclic schedule, which have a higher priority than domestic services by default.
>>2058349Rail liberalisation has been such an absolute clusterfuck, who ever thought this would be a good ideaI hate the EU so much it's unreal
>>2058363Look, Germany is probably the only EU-state in which nothing would change, if it left the EU.The EU is Germany and Germany is the EU.It's but a cheap excuse for politicians in Berlin to say "We have no choice, because Brussels has decided this." when they have their people against themselves.The crux of the matter is with DBAG and the politicians and parties presiding over it: The Konzern has been mismanaged from its inception at practically every single layer.
need to travel from Basel to Frankfurt on a Saturday in spring and was toying around the DB Navigator for a bit if I could find some cheapo ICE ticket, because trying to do this with regional trains is a chore in the upper Rhine valley, with lots of changes and waiting times.while there are plenty of tickets for 18 Euros for Munich - Frankfurt, there were none below 30 Euros for Basel Bad to Frankfurt if you discount Flixtrain (I saw the Fl*xtrain stopping once in Eisenach and the people inside looked all miserable, so no thanks). even when trying some tricks like starting from Freiburg or adding Bad Krozingen as waypoint, that didn't work. all I could find was a 9 Euro ticket to Karlsruhe that would only show up if you added the the waypoint of Müllheim and 6 Euro tickets from Mannheim to Frankfurt for the TGV. then I connected the only cheap ICE train Basel to Karlsruhe that continues to Stuttgart and the cheap Munich - Frankfurt trains that run via Heidelberg-Darmstadt together and voila, I found a through ticket Basel Bad - Frankfurt via Stuttgart for 18 Euros (it's 13 Euros in the end for me with BC25). It has a 100 minute layover in Stuttgart and will take 6 instead of 3 hours. I'm pretty sure that the connecting ICE Graz - Frankfurt will be on time in Stuttgart and that I won't simply get a Zugbindung aufgehoben.you're welcome miss nigkutta. and yes I know, I could have simply waited for the black friday sale.
>Bahn-Chefin Palla sagt Eröffnung von Stuttgart 21 für 2026 abhttps://archive.ph/3kMkx>Die Kosten des Projekts [...] liegen [...] mittlerweile bei rund elf Milliarden Euro.
>>2059177
>>2059186Well, what did you expect?DB's management is focusing on marketing and not on engineering and construction.They need to sell their burning wreckage to keep the money flowing towards them.Extinguishing the fire is too much fruitless labor in their (and the federal government's) eyes.I don't expect that to change under Palla, but hey, maybe all hell freezes over. Winter is coming for one.
>>2059186But it will be pretty
Well, let's hope, she knows, what she is doing there and that the results are good.A lot of things in Germany are in the dire need of some AFUERA!
>STUTTGART 21: Eröffnung auch 2027 unsicherlol, how long is this supposed to take? besides it still looks like a big construction site when I was in Stuttgart last week.
>>2061317Sounds a bit like it's still trying to out-shit the BER. Maaaaybe it'll be in limited operation by the end of this decade, unless they end up realizing it needs a complete redo half a year from now, which wouldn't even surprise me anymore. Firesaftey or something.
>>2035896That extension is to hold a laptop.
>>2061337That BER comparison is getting more apt with each passing year.On a lighter note, the Berlin Senator for Traffic and Mobility has finally figured out what is holding the BER back from becoming an international airline hub: the lack of a third runway.
>>2061462Who in his right fucking mind would operate flights from this fucking country whose politicians want your company to fucking die?...and from >Berlin of all places.
>>2061462I really doubt that there's a lack of slots for a couple of more long distance flights at BER. air berlin wasn't profitable back in the days.on the rail side of notes, thanks to the opening of the Dresdner Bahn, the train between Berlin Hauptbahnhof and BER airport is now much quicker. take that Munich and MUC, where's your Ede Stoiber Transrapid now?
It's insane how much noisier it got over just like one decade. I remember back in the 00s in the morning you could almost whisper with an almost full tram. Most where either still dozing off, looking out of the windows or reading newspaper. Now there are many super loud [redacted] talking loudly even when facing another, retards watching Tiktok over speaker instead of headphones, people talking into their phone while holding the phone 1m away from them with speaker on etc. Trams also rattle, clatter and squeal way more. Many feel like they're about to fall apart. It wasn't that bad at all back then. Basically you must have tight headphones on to fade it all out or you'll go insane.
>>2061522>where's your Ede Stoiber Transrapid nowIn Peking. Like much of what was German way, way back.You can't "save the planet" and have a healthy industry, apparently.Socialism kills everything standing in its way, which is usually people wanting to do anything against the will of their Godfather, the state.That's why the Chinese version of capitalism wins against the German version of socialism.
>>2035896für notebooks du dumme hure
https://www.bahn.de/service/fahrplaene/6156bcce-dfb6-4e0d-b6b4-f90071e12cb0>Alle Fahrgäste, die bis einschließlich 07.01.26 ein Ticket für eine Reise im Zeitraum vom 08.01.26 bis 11.01.26 gekauft haben und diese aufgrund der Winterwitterung verschieben möchten, können ihr Ticket zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt nutzen. Die Zugbindung ist aufgehoben. Das Ticket gilt dabei für die Fahrt zum ursprünglichen Zielort auch mit einer geänderten Streckenführung. Sitzplatzreservierungen können kostenfrei storniert werden.
>>2062920embarrassing
>>2062968Come on. After years of the propaganda on TV and in the press, who the fuck could expect a regular winter?Anyone doing so would be considering a "climate change denier" and "anti-science".The solution to extend the usability of tickets to a whole year is the best thing DB could do in this situation.There is a lot of total nonsense happening in the Konzern, but this was a decent handling.
>Berlinhttps://www.berliner-zeitung.de/mensch-metropole/frauen-verzweifeln-an-gewalt-im-berliner-nahverkehr-man-will-nur-noch-verschwinden-li.10014743...aber sieht anderswo im Land ja vermutlich auch nicht viel besser aus.
is there an alternative to bahn.guru? I used to love using that to find small destinations from wherever I was staying at (or planning to travel to), and also just to explore rail networks. I don't think it'll come back so I need an alternative.
>>2037920I used to use the S7. The town I live in for the last 30 years is getting promised an extension of the final station to our town. 30 years so far and they still argue, plan and "do" shit and its still only in the planning phase. Bureaucracy is killing this country. Realistically its getting done in the next 7-8 years. I will be in my mid 40's and the first time I heard about this project was when I was 10. I swear to god...
Trolleybus in Schaffhausen is kill.Was going to be in 3 years but they pulled the plug earlier because construction work would of meant re-routing power lines.Fuck man. I hate those cunts so much. All for their disgusting battery bus meme.RIP Trolleybus 1966-2026. You were a good boi. Those assholes didn't deserve you.
Remember there is a strike on Monday in many municipalities.
>6000 von 14000 Mitarbeitern werden bis 2030 entlassenDB Cargo hat wirklich konsequent alles falsch gemacht.Das lässt sich im Nachhinein immer leicht sagen, aber das haben hier eigentlich alle auch schon im Voraus gesagt.Aus meiner Sicht war in den letzten Jahren die fehlende Verzahnung mit der (ex-)DB Schenker ein schwerer Fehler.Das war eine potenzielle Goldmiene, die von unfähigem Management sowohl innerhalb des Konzerns als auch von staatlicher Seite zur in Flammen stehenden Bruchbude umfunktioniert wurde. Toll gemacht!
>Stuttgart 21 - Tiefbahnhof-Eröffnung wohl erst 2030https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/regional/badenwuerttemberg/swr-stuttgart-21-108.htmlDer moderne Turmbau zu Babel?
>>2066632Würde mich nicht wundern wenn der Pfaffensteigtunnel noch vorher fertig wird (offiziell noch 6 Jahre, also sein wir mal nett und nehmen 2038 an) und sich dann dort wegen irgend einer Fehlplanung nicht anschließen lässt...
https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/bus-brennt-in-der-schweiz-ab-mehrere-tote-und-verletzte_7cf1f740-2f00-414f-ba4f-738d58dab783.html...
*sigh*Insanely Badly DesignedThe Hidden Crownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-pi4w76QM
>Ludwigshafen Hochstraße
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Getting really tired about DB's whining about Italo desu. Barely anything has happened yet and they're already screeching like Italo has publicy announced they're gonna firebomb train depots.>of course we welcome competition on the track :^)>noooo you can't get route licenses three years in advance! You have to apply for a new one each year! Why? Because you just can't, OKAY?>NOOOO you can't just pick the most profitable routes for your new HSR lines! If you compete with us on those routes, we will have to cut less profitable routes outside the big HSR lines! (btw, our connectivity strategy outside said big HSR lines is "take the government-funded regional train to get to the nearest big HSR line")>NOOOOOOOO YOUR ADDITIONAL TEN TRAINS PER DAY WILL LEAD TO A COLLAPSE OF THE BIG STATIONS! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE REGIONAL COMMUTERS???Any bets on the next topic? Mine is on Germany losing out as a business location if there's a second HSR operator in the country.
>>2075163>TEN TRAINS PER DAYI haven't been following the DBInfraGo-drama too closely, but Italo's plans are a little bigger than that.I understand DB Fernverkehr and Bahncard 100-customers not being happy, but for railway traffic in Germany, Italo would probably be an overall improvement.DB only has itself to blame here.
RIFF(At the very least /chad/-related through the Flixbus that used the bridge in its better days.)
>>2075163>railway liberalization just means the profitable routes are taken up by private businesses while govts are stuck with the unprofitable ones>essentially privatization of profits and socialization of losses>all the while infrastructure management becomes completely inefficient because it's separated from operations Another great success for the EU
https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/bahnverkehr-in-deutschland-steht-wohl-weitestgehend-still_ab0abc9d-5926-4c53-8f48-74198aaa5b43.html>running software updates outside the deepest night...which makes me think that explanation is bullshit.Just how fucking brittle are DB InfraGo's systems anyway?The last large-scale outage before this one was due to some "activists" cutting two cables.
>>2076672I don't even know anymore, man. At this point, I wouldn't put it past DB to roll out a nation-wide software update on a weekday evening with a bug of critical severity either getting overlooked or not being tested for at all.In any case, DB should count their lucky stars that this didn't happen on a friday afternoon.
>>2076802DB has no lucky stars.They are ultimately steered by politicians and politicians don't know shit.Every single field in which the state has critical influence goes to shit. Always. No exceptions. For the responsible managers effectively never end up taking responsibility. They have nothing to fear.I have no inside view of DB's IT, but there is no way, there were no concerns raised regarding running an update (or "key component switcharoo") like that.
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Mal was kurioses:https://www.merkur.de/deutschland/deutsche-bahn-ice-hielt-ausserplanmaessig-zugchef-kaufte-klopapier-zr-94400246.html>Deutsche Bahn [...] kündigt häufigere Kontrollen der Vorräte an Bord an.Das Video ist das im Artikel besagte Video.
>>2078067Englisch Mutterficker tust du es sprechen
Well, this doesn't bode well...
The profane masses still think politicians actually make decisions. Oh, the poor fools.
New video by Suits-san, a Japanese railway YouTuber, who has done a night train trip from Berlin to Zurich.It's auto-dubbed, so you don't need to be able to speak Japanese.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUyIJiBbgKI&t=36
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/deutsche-bahn-sanierung-infrastruktur-managerwechsel-li.3538123Generalsanierung sounded like a good idea. Where did it go all wrong?
>Berlinhttps://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article6aae2c97b1857e86757a6e00/bornholmer-strasse-auto-durchbricht-gelaender-und-stuerzt-auf-berliner-s-bahn-strecke-fahrer-tot.html
>>2036199>import brown third worlders>give everyone free money>wonder why nobody wants to work
>>2035896Wie ist pendeln von Halle nach leipzig? studieren, arbeiten und nachts zum feiern?
>>2082527Ja, die Verbindung ist zum Pendeln recht ordentlich, wobei es eine Weile her ist, dass ich sie genutzt habe. Das einzige was damals genervt hat war, dass öfters Zugteile ausgefallen sind, weswegen es zur Rush hour am Nachmittag eng werden konnte. Ich weiss nicht ob sich das seitdem gebessert hat.
>>2042060I, Is that something other than a t-train, tram, or m-metro?I am g-g-gonnag-g-g GADGETBAHNNNN aaaaaahrt. average redditor midwit
>>2035896Kind of surprised this hasn't been mentioned here yet, but DB recently (a few weeks ago) started large scale scrapping of their retired class 145 fleet, independently of who they were running for last (DB, RBH, MEG) and their last revision. Some comments on DSO suggested there were some serious interests in these units, but despite the high bids DB is presumably trying to get rid of them rather soonish to not give them into the hands of more 3rd parties than necessary. It's not confirmed though as some units were indeed sold to mainly train rental companies like TRI and WFL, but surely not in the numbers you would expect considering these machines are less than 30 years old still. Either way a remarkable move (for the wrong reasons) as this is going to be the first TRAXX generation to disappear.
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>>2082933>>2082934The economy is screwed, so there is less tonnage, which renders them redundant, and they don't want to sell them to the competition?
>>2083016Well, it actually goes much deeper if we look at what's been happening inside DB, just to give a context where we are right now>DB Cargo has been in the red since 2015 and making losses with their operative business>DB AG holding got in trouble with the EU due to state funded subventions to support their loss making branches, including DB Cargo>Holding is not allowed to freely counterfinance longterm loss-making branches with profits from other areas and subventions anymore>EU is giving DB AG the ultimatum of roughly 2 years until end of 2026 to restructure DB Cargo, company needs to proof it can operate with profit again or else may get folded>DB Cargo is scrambling for solutions as shits hits the fan>Multiple restructuring plans are made public, including massive cuts of employees>Suits in finance do their thing and try to get rid of dead assets and save money where possible>DB Cargo starts getting rid of rolling stock, starts scrapping older or unused freight cars in large quantities>Locomotives are sold where it's profitable, their age doesn't matter, so even brand new class 193 vectrons are sold to lessors like Railpool, other examples being traxx class 185 and 077 (class 77)Cont.
>>2083022Now to the 145s>First traxx series directly developed out of the ancient 12X prototype>Single current only (15kV AC, 16,7Hz), top speed of 140kph, offers the usual benefits of tri-phase current locomotives>Is now close to 25 to 30 years old though>One of the weakest variants of the earlier traxx family with just 4200 kW of power (compared to later European standard variants with 5600 kW)>Profitable freight services are mainly in long distance cross-border services requiring multi-current tracion>Can't be power upgraded like the older class 185 units as major structural changes and in electronic will require re-certification which is near impossible>Usable in Germany only, legally not even Austria or Switzerland>Due for midlife overhaul in order to keep them reliable which costs a shitton of money and effort>DB Cargo suddenly decided in 2024 to stop and ban the use of class 145s internally, defacto phasing out all of them from one day to another>Few units were still rented out for some weeks, but services eventually stopped there as well>Fast forward to current situation as described before>Deadline is getting closer to proof you can stay afloat as a business without sucking up all the tax money>3rd parties are lining up to get a hand on these still good to use locomotives>Few units change owners but mainly to rental companies specialized in for-hire passenger services>DB Cargo is now (probably) in the situation to either get rid of some of these locos for good money, but actively supporting its direct competitors and likely hurting their own struggling business or to send them for scrapping which results in less shortterm one-time net returns, but removes threats from the market>DB Cargo decides for the latter and sends them in batches to the butcher, not even bothering with potentially removing reusable sparesI guess in the end it's just a suit's decision and lack of will + imagination which lead to this mess
>>2083022>>2083023Thanks for the write-up.I have had the pleasure to talk with DB Cargo (HR) suits before, and while it was a nice meeting, that company clearly has no idea what's going on.Let's just say, I'm not surprised in the least, DB Cargo finds itself in the situation it is in. Which is also why I ultimately did not opt for that company.
https://smallsolutions.noncd.db.de/f?p=650:2000:5951378263555::::GV,GCODE:5H3UU8ZH74F4DB is running some special trains as a farewell celebration of the Intercity 1. The one on Saturday running from Hamburg to Wiesbaden via Aschaffenburg will consist of Rheingold rolling stock headed by a 103, could be worth a look.
>>2083023sorry what does it meandata pleas
Bundatag actually voted in favor of a NBS Hamburg - Hannover. didn't expect to witness this. alpha-e locals must be seething, fuck them. >expected opening year 2050haha lol. https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/bundestag-beschliesst-neubau-der-bahnstrecke-hannover-hamburg,neubaustrecke-140.html
Angeblich wie die Bundespolizei im Auftrage der Deutschen Bahn AG mit Platin-Status-Kunden umgeht:https://x.com/NiklasKorber/status/2110054852890116487Da muss eine Menge schiefgegangen sein - sowohl beim Kunden als auch beim Zugbegleiter -, aber ein gutes Licht wirft das auf die bundeseigene Eisenbahn nicht. Schade.
Bahnhof des Jahres:https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/wettbewerbe/bahnhof-des-jahres/ansbach/
>>2083419Some greenery would be nice, otherwise looks pretty clean
>>2083419>they found a nice train station in one of the richest states in germanythat's not newsworthy. call me when they find a nice one in brandenburg or the saarland.the only bad train station i've ever seen in bavaria is munich main because it's 3 end train stations glued together in the least convenient way for anyone changing trains there, and they have neither a bridge nor an underpass to alleviate that.how does a city made of gold and marble have a train station that smells like piss and doesn't work?
>>2083361>mindestens 6000 Euro in einem Jahr fürs Fahren mit der Deutschen Bahn ausgegeben (günstigstenfalls der BahnCard 100-Überlappungstrick)>der Zugchef veranlasst die DB-Sicherheit, die nicht mit sich diskutieren lässt, einen aus dem Zug zu entfernen, weil er das Ticket für ungültig hältWäre wirklich interessant zu erfahren, was genau da vorgefallen ist.
https://www.vrr.de/aktuelles/newsroom/db-regio-und-westfalenbahn-sollen-den-zuschlag-fuer-ausgeschriebene-nahverkehrsleistungen-erhalten/Tender for Rhein-Ruhr-Express (RRX) B Netz has been closed. Winner of lot 1 for lines RE 2, 3 and 45 is DB Regio who will order 34 new 4-car Hitachi Eurocaravaggio EMUs. Lot 2 of this same tender goes to Westfalenbahn who will order 16 new 6-car Stadler KISS MIX units for lines RE 7 and RE 42.Although it is just the tender for the additional secondary lines supporting the RRX main network, I am still quite surprised all involved parties agreed on the winning companies handling ordering rolling stock on their own and taking care of maintenance. And no less is the decision made by DB Regio to go (again) for a model with no real reference yet a mindbaffling one. The Italian production plant may belong to Hitachi Rail now, the history under their old firm AnsaldoBreda however certainly isn't one that helps building trust. And additionally, if they are anything to go by, the Hitachi Caravaggio (without Euro) units already operating in Italy are not exactly known as mindfully designed quality products. Fewer windows than equivalent products of other manufacturers, only one stair leading to the upper deck of each end car and sliding single doors. Westfalenbahn certainly did a safer call here relying on Stadler, although the chosen sets are first of their kind in Germany as well, similar ones though are already running in Spain.The contracts will only start in the early 2030s leaving about 5-6 years for production, testing and certification. However with Hitachi having no reference products in Germany yet or any experience in certification processes in Germany, this could bring back some bad memories made with PESA and their Link DMUs or SKODA with their MüNüEx double deck push-pull sets.Certainly an interesting development made here.Pic may or may not be related, a Caravaggio EMU operating in Northern Italy.
