>>43661151
>Do you consider these three separate cutie marks, or all the same cutie mark?
I consider them shit.

>>43661151
Btw people who hate these marks or hate the later seasons may not post in here.

>>43661156
too fucking late

>>43661158
No, I made that post immediately after I posted the original post. Do something productive with your life instead of saying you hate everything. No one cares, you just annoy people to the point they want to kill you. Go make a thread about things you enjoy, dumbass.

>>43661168
>Go make a thread about things you enjoy, dumbass.
alright
>>43661170

>>43661171
Good. Now please also stay outta threads you don't like. Thank you.

>>43661151
They look like shi--
>Btw people who hate these marks or hate the later seasons may not post in here.
Oh. Oh... haha, woopsy!

>>43661172
nah I'm gonna continue calling late seasons SHIT for being SHIT
sorry for being Faustian on a Faustian board

>>43661151
Why didn't babseed get one like this?

>>43661174
It ain't a faustian board. Plus, Faust wouldn't want you to waste your life talking and thinking about things you don't enjoy while at the same time bothering others. Mom would be disappointed in you.

>>43661151
>they're all different and the Crusaders each have two special talents
That's a crack, not a lightning bolt, and Scootaloo's special talent is being a cripple forever. Anyway, they obviously have different designs, and I assume they imply that each of them have their own way of guiding others toward their destinies. It might even be inferred that they share one talent between them, and that they'd all fail at their job if they didn't work together.

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>>43661176
Cause she's fake as hell. Gabby is the real 4th Crusader.

>>43661172
>asking for people's opinions
>getting mad when they disagree with you

Do you have some form of brain damage?

>>43661176
because they forgot about her and all other distant Apple family members after Season 3
>>43661177
>It ain't a faustian board
it is
>Plus, Faust wouldn't want you to waste your life talking and thinking about things you don't enjoy while at the same time bothering others
>Mom would be disappointed in you.
too bad I've been a disappointment since day 1 on God's green Earth

>>43661182
not canon

>>43661182
Literally who?

>>43661184
I was asking for a discussion about these cutie marks, specifically about if you think they count as three different ones or three of the same. Bitchmoaning about them is irrelevant and off topic.

>>43661151
I would say they got separate talents but in same "family". So similar to Apple family themed. They were so close they became in the eyes of the cutie marks family. Separated by talent, but kindship in theme. Probably an obvious and not deep though out answer or analysis from me.
But would their children get same themed cutiemark or would this be an one off happening? I think it was a one off happening, or really rare.

>>43661179
That's an odd interpretation. My interpretation was that no two cutie marks can look exactly the same, and the inner symbols are just for decoration, while the shield is the real symbol.

I mean, simplifying down cutie marks to just 'your special talent' was always dumb. Applejack's talents go well beyond being good with apples.

>>43661151
>Canonically they're the latter
Source?
>though I have heard people say that actually they're all different and the Crusaders each have two special talents, unlike everypony else. I think that's dumb, but let's talk about it.
I think they're all different and they all have two special talents.
I also think that's dumb, but that's what the show is presenting.
>>43661156
Oh never mind, critical discussion is forbidden.

>>43661205
Well you can have more than one talent, but one is even greater than the others. I think it might also have something to do with destiny? Cutie marks are mysterious after all, that's what makes them so fun. FUCK I love ass tattoos so much!

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>>43661156
Too bad fuckface. Later seasons are SHIT and so are these cutie marks.

>>43661210
Nah you can post as long as you're actually on topic. People who are haters usually aren't.

The source is the cmc literally say it when they get them, and they are the experts after all. Plus, the show has always made it very clear that cutie marks each only represent one thing. And we never really see them using the inner symbols as like, a Special Talent you know? Like they use their other talents, but the one that always feels special is when they use what the shield represents. And that's clearly their destiny, to crusade together forever.

>>43661205
Well Applejack's mark is supposed to represent her connection to her family, not just being good at picking apples. It's ones like Rainbow Dash or Rarity that have a simple special talent cutie mark. Rarity's passion is tailoring, yet her mark is just about her gem finding ability, and Dash's is about going fast, which granted seems to be her life passion, but still, Life passion and special talent being one in the same really doesn't help the perception of cutie marks people have.

>>43661256
>Rarity's passion is tailoring, yet her mark is just about her gem finding ability
How terrible that Rarity was one twist in time away from being a minor miner.

>>43661280
The fillies yearn for the mines

>>43661280
>>43661283
>Rarity being part of an AU "Our Town" where Ponies would rather be miserable and Blank, than be pressured to make their Special Talent their entire personality
>The moral of the story being
Your Cutie Mark is a part of who you are, but it does not define you as a pony.
>And Blank!Rarity trying out tailoring in later episodes and finding she enjoys dress-making the best.

Wait. I think I just watched Magical Mystery Cure and that's influencing me too much.

>>43661256
Cutie Marks are related to destiny. The CMC mark is a shared destiny.

>>43661156
I'll post wherever I want shithead

>>43661156
>You're not allowed to say anything I don't like
Maybe you should find yourself an EQG thread to hang out in, those sound more your speed

>>43661151
If they're not different then how come I can tell them apart?

>>43661151
They're both, which is stupid. There writers were trying to have their cake and eat it.

>>43661280
Similar to AJ's CM referring to her sense of belonging despite picturing apples, Rarity's CM might refer to her sense of adding glamour to something, especially via adding gemstones or using valuable materials. Despite her gem-finding spell, she sucks at mining, needing either Spike, D. Dogs or the Sonic Rainboom to do the work for her.

>>43661156
Fuck you. The Cutie Marks are hideous dogshit and absolutely raped the CMC’s potential.

>>43663729
But you're a gollyfag...

>>43661256
I always thought Rarity's mark was 'finding beauty', and her gem seeking talent being a more direct application of her cutie mark.

>>43661151
>Yes, no. No, yes no, no. Yes, no.
Glad I could help

>>43664441
Cozy Glow agreed with me that the CMCs’ Cutie Marks should’ve been changed.

Cutie marks vary wildly in how literal or symbolic they are, and in how much they can reveal about a pony's destiny. For instance, Shining Armor's cutie mark is a shield and three stars. His destiny is obviously as a protector based on the shield, but it's pretty easy as a viewer to interpret the three stars as representing his family - either himself, his wife, and his daughter, or perhaps his wife, his daughter, and his sister. His destiny is specifically to protect his family, but there's no way anyone would be able to tell that back when he first got his mark. For another example, Twilight's cutie mark represents magic, but with the five white sparkles around her main sparkle, it also represents her becoming an element of harmony and befriending the rest of the mane six, something that can also only be understood in retrospect.
In the same way, I think the symbols inside the shields represent something about the CMC that hasn't happened yet, but is destined to happen. Their talent/destiny is helping others find/understand their cutie marks, and we know that when ponies get their marks together/from the same event (like the mane six did) it means their destinies are intertwined in some way. So while I don't think they have secondary talents necessarily, I do think that they have separate destinies as individual ponies. Destinies that will involve each other heavily and ultimately revolve around helping others find their marks, but still will be unique to each of them.

>>43664634
Nah. That would be too obvious wouldn't it? I didn't even really notice the star shit that Twily and Shiny have.

>>43661151
I think the cutie marks have too many colors and extra random details. even rainbow dash only has 5 colors where as this has 6. also some reason. they would all be improved if you just erase the star, heart and wing. those symbols dont mean anything

We never really get to see to much about it but AB really deserves better than that mark and the apple family. I mean the heart is a valuable symbol historically and maybe the mark is meant to show her overcoming that background without losing that connection, and that'd be perfectly good and sensible, it's just one of those things that feels bitter because there's no statement after.
>>43661151
>Canonically they're the latter
Source? Because the CMC saying that they got the same mark isn't really a definitive claim. If anything, the CMC not really having a strong grasp on what exactly a cutie mark is and how they work is a pretty consistent point about them.
>I have heard people say that actually they're all different and the Crusaders each have two special talents, unlike everypony else. I think that's dumb
You're right, that is dumb. The idea of a cutie mark as a single specific special talent isn't really supported by the text and both CMC episodes and the S5 opening go over this fairly explicitly.
>>43665682
>That would be too obvious wouldn't it?
No?
A good explanation shouldn't be dismissed because it's a good explanation lmao. For all the concern about anons trolling you sure don't seem like you're interested in actually engaging with the topic. I don't really think getting your marks at the same time means that you MUST have a shared destiny since it's n=1, but the CMC do seem like likely candidates for that anyway even if it's not a cosmic rule.

>>43665716
>AB deserves better than the best cutie mark ever
What mark would you give her? Nigguh?

>>43661151
>Canonically they're the latter

The CMCs say it's the same in Crusaders of the Lost Mark. In The Last Crusade, Scootaloo's father points out the differences anyone with lying eyes can see and says that's not true after they make this argument, and makes an interpretive statement about them.

Earlier in Appleoosa's Most Wanted, Trouble Hooves assumes his cutie mark is bad luck based directly on what it looks like, but the lesson of the episode is that your lot in life(for ponies, their cuties marks, their destiny and talents) are what you make of them after the CMCs change his perspective(this directly leads to them earning their cutie marks after helping Diamond Tiara in the same way).

So is what the CMCs said canon? How would you go about determining this?

>>43661198
I think "it's just decorative and means nothing" is a much weirder interpretation than acknowledging what we see before and after - that the CMCs are very different characters with very different talents and perspectives that they apply to their problem solving and shared destiny while those symbols are directly related to who they are, the user's crippled comment aside.

Are we just saying Crusaders of the Lost Mark is a retcon of Show Stoppers an every episode thereafter? Do you understand that the CMCs have a dynamic they all play a pretty specific role in, and create, I don't know some kind of Harmony? It's weird that this would be acknowledged in their cutie marks because...?

>>43661151
Separate.
They have distinctly different designs.

Sad that they were treated as the same thing though; the potential for CMC episodes was horrendously squandered after they got those marks (though not because of them), and even in Haber's future they're just shunted into being teachers.

If I was replacing Season 9 with my own S9 & S10, I'd genuinely consider having the inner part of the marks change color after they realize their more individual strengths. Which of course, requires them to have more individual-centered episodes, but that's honestly where the CMC are most lacking. Pair them with characters other than the trio or their sisters for a change.

>Ah theres a thread i dont like i gotta post in here
>Ah theres people in my thread that dont like it now im mad
Kek

>>43661571
Oh the irony of this post

>>43664634
I've always wondered what Cozy Glow's cutie mark could have possibly indicated if marks don't predestine ponies for evil. Her talent is manipulation.

>>43661151
I consider them slightly different, tailored to their different personalities, but they still represent their connection with each other like how Twilight's cutie mark represents her destined connection with the m6.

>>43661182
Trvke, Gabby is a heckin cute birb

>>43661224
They don't really mean it literally. The inner symbols represent their different personalities and interests.

>>43663729
>""potential""
AKA the basic talents they were implied to have in Showstoppers. Have you never stopped to think ponies can have multiple talents?
Cutie marks aren't just the talent, they represent who the pony is and the CMCs are much more than "sing good".

>>43661151
they're the exact same cutie mark and that's what makes them shit, they're representative of the later seasons, and what makes those later seasons shit
Twilight and her friends were all connected by the same event, and derived their cutie marks from it, but they didn't get the same cutie mark cause they all wanted to do and be something different from each other
Haber and his shit gave the cmc the same cutie mark and essentially killed off the idea of them being seperate from each other, all but taking away their agency
the mane 6 are friends because they hang out with each other despite their difference in personalities and goals, with these cutie marks the cmc are essentially relegated to being chained to each other and never pursuing their own dreams outside of just helping other people achieve what will help them be fulfilled in life
remember Sweetie Belle's love of singing? gone
Scootaloo's love of riding her scooter? gone
Applebloom's connection to the farm? gone
all thrown into the meat grinder of Haber's shitty late seasons attempts at "stories"

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>>43667443
I know right? this shit's always funny

>>43669431
Wdym, it's obviously chess

>>43661151

Always pisses me off whenever I see artwork including these marks.
Even Greg out of all people parodied this in his newer RDP videos.
Fuck these marks, I liked when the CMC had blank marks, or when you’d read a fimfiction story and the author came up with their own version (like Swibbs having 3 blue music notes for a CM)

>>43669810
>Even Greg out of all people
Uhh, he seems to hate just about everything about the show, he's even critical of the early seasons, so I'm not at all surprised when he doesn't like something.

>>43669810
>Always pisses me off whenever I see artwork including these marks.
I tried editing them out of a few pieces but I'm no Photoshop expert and I'm lazy as shit.

>>43669431
Cozy Glow acted in service of an evil goal, and didn't care if she hurt people/actively enjoyed hurting people. That's what makes her evil. Her cutie mark just represents her ability to read people and situations, and speak/act in such a way that sways the situation in her favor. Which...yeah, ok, that is just kind of a nicer way to phrase "manipulation", now that I think about it, but still, that ability isn't inherently evil, that's a skill a lot of totally normal people have or go out of their way to hone. If she had a sense of morals and ethics to go along with her talent, then she would have just become something like a highly skilled lawyer, or a politician, or a business pony, a negotiator, a diplomat... so many options that aren't inherently evil that would play well to her skills.

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>>43670911

Perfect angels. Forever and ever.

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>>43670896
FTFY

>>43670911
Why are you in this thread? Go somewhere to talk about things you enjoy. You uh, do enjoy things don't you?

>>43661151
Shit

>>43670935
I enjoy raping (You)

>>43669729
>bunch of contrarianism
Read the thread. You don't care about Faust, larper.

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>>43669431
>>43670708
>Her talent is manipulation.
And? DT has basically the same talent except CG is more like executive material and DT is a born middle manager.

>>43661184
My father does this shit all the time.

>>43661198
Sir, you're in a slowly dying website full of hateful autistic manchildren. This is honestly the worst place on the internet for nuanced discussion. Just accept that there's a mountain of filthy niggers here you have to sift through to find anyone with half a brain.

>>43673116
Then where go? You make it sound like there's someplace on the internet better than here for discussion.

>>43661151
Cutie marks are clearly more abstract than being one specific spacial talent. Also, trying to make sense of such esoteric magics will only lead to madness.

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Despite how the characters treat it, the CMC's cutie marks looking similar shouldn't even be super notable in-universe, at least not to the extent they act like it is. Lotus and Aloe have literally identical cutie marks, and Flim and Flam have cutie marks that very clearly go together (an apple with a small slice missing, and the missing slice, coming together to represent an unfair deal). Maybe it's just notable because it usually doesn't happen to ponies who aren't identical twins. Or maybe background ponies and minor antagonists just don't count.

>>43672786
Heheheh

>>43661151
Sweetie Belle should've gotten hers first, but she was anchored down by the fates of the other two.