What do we think about Shiiko Sugai, canonically the greatest oldtype pilot in the entire Gundam franchise with over 100 confirmed kills in a single conflict?
>>24054918She's an exhibitionist and has tits the size of my torso.
>>24054922They don't look that big anon your torso must be very small
>>24054925We don't sizeshame here.
>>24054918>oldtype pilot in the entire Gundam franchiseYazan exists
she was clearly a newtype too, she just didn't know
>>24054931She didn't manifest newtype abilities until long after the war. She killed 100+ spaceniggers with a piece of string.>>24054929She has more confirmed kills than Yazan in combat that aren't the result of some technicality like a colony drop. Sorry old man this Pokemon character is the UC Ace of Aces
>>24054929Showed Newtype potential, but was unconsciously suppressing it. Honestly if Yazan didn’t have such a disgust for seeing women on the battlefield, he and Shiiko would have made for a good blitz berserker duo.
>>24054938Their psychotic child could have gone on to become the Genghis Khan of space
You want my real answer, she's fucking stupid.She has a husband and kid. Go the fuck home. Your kid needs a mom, and you're just being selfish.
>>24055157I have not watched the show since it initially released, but weren't they both dead and it's why she is fighting?
>>24054918If she's so great where is she in the mainline UC?
>>24055165Killed by the AEUG or Zeon remnants
>>24055165Breastfeeding me.
>>24055163No the person who died was her wingman. I still have no idea why gqux had to come up with MAV when wingman is exactly what a MAV is in show.
>>24055174it's wingman but more gay
>>24055165Raped by Yazan for her numerous war crimes
>>24055157If I had a nickel for every time a Gundam mom conscripted into mobile suit combat decided to keep fighting until their death instead of go back home and take care of their children I would have two nickels. It is concerning that it keeps happening.
>>24055200Are we counting Lalah? That counts, right?
>>24055206She's someone who COULD'VE been a mother, not an actual mom. I don't count Marbet either because she didn't give birth until after the war was over.
>>24054918She made the og Fed suit look sexy and that's all that matters.come to think of it, Sayla was the only other woman to wear that suit that most people know of, and some people think she was in that one battle in the light Guncannon...one can only imagine how hot she must have looked
>>24055200Fucking Netflix Gundam.Go home and take care of your kid, goddamn.
>>24055200The man who was right at least twice
>>24055225It is incredible how the last minute of it turned the whole thing from an average show into complete trash. What were they even thinking?
>>24055230Out of curiosity, would you have felt removing the multiverse angle and instead playing it straight would have turned out better?
>>24055232I think we're talking about two different things. I was talking about the Requiem for Vengeance ending there.But I think in GQuuuuuuX the multiverse angle could've been played out better, if elements from the UC were simply used in the backstory of the actual plot, instead of Lalah hijacking everything in an eternal recurrance to try and save Char. Especially when the series omits Amuro and makes Shuji the pilot of the alternate RX-78-02 for some reason. The Gundam QuuuuuuX/Endymion being built using a piece of the Nu's psycoframe, and thus bearing Amuro's soul, is a cool premise that could've lead to some interesting shenanigans. The series needed waaaay more episodes though, so characters like Deux and Gates wouldn't be one-scene wonders.
>>24055230>an average showIt was fucking shit all over the place.
>>24055208>>24055200I count threeUso's MomNetflix loonaticPokemom
>>24055234Really? What was so shitty about it? What could they have done better?
>>24055241Not him but I'd start by getting a better character designer. The igloo characters were more appealing and they look like the the ps2 era graphics they are.
>>24055241>What could they have done better?Not use Unreal for the animation, for once. Their hands clip and stutter all over the place, fucking Igloo 20 years prior did it better. The designs could've used a bit more refinement, I guess the story isn't all that bad it's just another Gundam side story. I didn't like the character designs, woman with shaved sides and bitch with pink hair, piercing and tattoos are shit archetypes.
>>24054918I liked that one AI gen that was on Pixiv where she kills Shuji and destroys the Red Gundam, before moving on to capture and discipline/mindbreak Machu into a little sister for her son.>>24055225It is a Gundam tradition for competent women who happen to be mothers to become deadbeats out of left field (Seed Destiny)
>unicum>clanbat>mav>diabolos>alphacideNone of these terms add anything to the show and some of them are only mentioned once then Immedietly forgotten
>>24055278so why complain about it then?
>>24054918This was the first sign that GQuacks' writing was really rushed and refused to have proper depth.
>>24055372I don't think the show was trying to be deep honestly. I think they had a cool concept and then ran with it by the seat of their pants. Like GQuX never came of as pretentious to me like some other Gundam shows do.
>>24055416Yeah it has a ball-headed little girl, a catgirl that pilots EVA Unit 01 and a psycho Pokémon. They weren't trying for pathos. My favorite moment of the show was when somehow Shuuji makes the RX-78-2 grow to 500 feet tall and everyone looks directly into the camera and says "no this is not a metaphor it's actually physically growing in mass and size and we won't explain it"
>>24055419It honestly seemed to me like it was just a bunch of fans of the show trying to have some fun with it.
>>24055419The Gundam QuuuuuuX itself was wasted here. It has some really neat abilities.>Sentient AI that can address the pilot's emotional state, can control the suit on its own>Variable shape i-field beam sabers, Machu turns one into a heat hawk shape>Uses micro black holes for defense and warpingThere could've been so much more done with this concept.
Was it really necessary to introduce a pants-shittingly feared legendary ace and then make her look like a goofy midget from an entirely different series?
Kinda fucked up that she left her kid behind to thrill seek in a life or death sport.
>>24055525She could have left her kid behind to thrill seek penises instead
>>24055530what makes you think she didn't?
>>24054918Real shame she died like a bitch.
>>24054922Proof?
>>24055157She was a Tomino woman archetype.
>>24054918>Only over 100>Not almost 200Move aside, Feddie whore
>>24054918>>24055525She didn't listen to her MAV to live a happy life.
>>24055174>>24055176It's a play on mabudachi like with Muv-Luv
GqX pisses me off so much it's not even funny
I didn't think it was THAT bad. The Lalah stuff was goofy, but it wasn't abysmal. It was just a bunch of animators and fans of Gundam having fun with the setting. You should only take it as seriously as they did.
>>24055367Why not?Its weird for a series that is meant to be UC trying to distinguish itself with new terminology when it could have just seamlessly used the terms "ace" and "partner""clanbat" is the only term that conveys the culture of a group of people in the show, and even then basically becomes irrelevant after the psycho gundam. The rest simply aren't written into the script properly
>>24054918I dug her and wouldn't mind her OG 0079 counterpart showing up in the main stuff
>>24055899It's about on par with the gonk and choom shit used in Cyberpunk in my opinion.
>>24055911Those are translator related.
>>24055690
>>24055951I thought the slang originated with Mike Pondsmith.
>>24055896And it's why I preferred GQuuuuuuX over WfM. At least all Khara wanted to do was geek out while doing a Gundam show, while in WfM's case, I cannot seem to feel for what the production team was trying to achieve beyond appeasing executives.
>>24055956Anybody who references Shakespeare like they do in WfM is so up their own ass it isn't funny.
>>24055958I found that to be nothing worth being upset about. I just feel like that they could have thought of better things outside taking plot elements from The Tempest.
>>24055961I get upset when people assume that Shakespeare automatically equals deep when the guy wrote some real bawdy ass comedies. I also don't like seeing maybe the greatest writer in the history of the English language having his stuff referenced in just abysmal trying too hard shit just so people who don't even know what a folio is can feel smart while watching it.
>>24055966Sunrise cribbing old shit is not new. They experimented with having classic literature-inspired mecha anime in the early 2000s with stuff like Argento Soma, Infinite Ryuvius, and something else I can't remember.
>>24055977Is not the act of doing it that bothers me, like I don't care that the Lion King is just Hamlet. It's HOW you do it.
The problem with GWitch wasn't that it tried too hard, it's that it didn't try hard enough. It backed off from anything really subversive or interesting and seemed to just have no clear direction whatsoever. It's a show where things happen but nothing makes sense or is consequential.GQuuuuuuX was silly but it comes off as being made with passion and genuine interest. All the retarded shit is retarded but makes sense within the internal logic of the show other than the Gundam getting really big at the end, the fuck was that?
>>24055985>The problem with GWitch wasn't that it tried too hard, it's that it didn't try hard enough. It backed off from anything really subversive or interesting and seemed to just have no clear direction whatsoever. It's a show where things happen but nothing makes sense or is consequential.Save for the part about not being subversive enough, this perfectly encapsulates GCucks as well.
>>24056002And how was GQuuuuuuX supposed to be subversive? I don't think that was what Khara had in mind, especially as production predated WfM.
>GQuuuuuuX was silly but it comes off as being made with passion and genuine interest. All the retarded shit is retarded but makes sense within the internal logic of the show
>>24056004The halfbaked multiverse shit, I suppose.
>>24056011That's not subversive. A multiverse isn't undermining anything. If anything it just creates a new timeline for new norms to be established in.
>>24056008>GQuuuuuuX was silly but it comes off as being made with passion and genuine interest. All the retarded shit is retarded but makes sense within the internal logic of the showAnd was it a problem for GQuuuuuuX to be deliberately silly? Knowing it would be made by Khara helped me prepare for not expecting good worldbuilding and serious explorations of the cast. WfM tried and failed there as far as I'm concerned.
>>24056012GCucks could've been a normal standalone alt UC work, but they introduced the multiverse shit which dragged the mainline UC into its whole shitshow.
>>24056025Okay, but what is it subverting by doing that?
>>24056020Problem is that GQuacks isn't a comedy, as the character in the OP proves, it wanted to have its cake and eat it too.
>>24056029Anon you might be autistic.
>>24056028>introduced a multiverse when there used to be none>turns out that Char was literally fated to lose to Amuro and die>turns out that Amuro's spirit traveled to the Pokémon universe after the Axis Shock and now lives on inside the GCucks>turns out that Lalah has a Newtype connection with all of her multiverse selves or something
>>24056036Tell that to yourself.
>>24056037But none of that is subversive, you don't know what words mean
>>24056041Anon, you might be retarded.
>>24056046NTA but he's right. None of that is a subversion of anything. Usually people subvert genre or tropes by undermining people's expectations of said genre or tropes, like Twin Peaks is subversive. GQuX isn't really subverting anything.
>>24056047Nobody was expecting the mainline UC to be tainted by trendy multiverse bullshit.
We get it, you don't like Marvel and multiverse shit, but stop using literary terminology wrong. It just makes you sound like an idiot.
>>24056054That ending scene when a classic RX-78 showed up and Beyond the Time started playing subverted a lot of people's expectations.
>>24056037>when there used to be none
This is what happens when a generation of children grow up watching cinemasins and other american "creators".
>>24056064If you mean Turn A, it was never clear what its deal with the "AU" shows was, and that recent-ish short seems to place all the mainline entries in the same world.
>>24056066Yeah, it's not the people who love American trends like the multiverse craze.
>>24055896It was about on par with how unhinged some of those \m\ plays Gihrens Greed threads got. At least with those threads we would have gotten a whole whorehouse arc with Amate instead of a single episode.
>>24055985>other than the Gundam getting really big at the end, the fuck was that?Ideon reference. there used to be fan theory about both show being connected.
For me it's the Psycho Gundam abomination. the design of that show look so stupid they becomes good.
if Kara managed to get a Gundam show, you think Trigger is next? Would it be even weirder? Might get traditional art mecha instead of 3D though
>>24056108Why the bird feet though
>>24056111Maybe it want to be a bird, wouldn't be the first Gundam to want that
>>24056108>>24056111It would be an awesome design with normal feet
>>24056101>Ideon referenceRetard.
>>24056111It's a prototype.
The Gundam Aerial is one of the most beautiful designs ever so I'm still asshurt that Witch from Mercury was so bad
>>24056121It literally is, it use some of the same sound-font, and Ideon also does supernatural shit like this
Gwitch Gqux and RfV were all written badly on purpose to prove that female protagonists in Gundam were a mistake, you should honor their sacrifice
>>24056163I don't even think RfV is poorly written, for the most part. It's perfectly fine. Not exceptional in any way. The only bad part was the very ending because it's so out of character.
>>24055954I'm literally built to get raped by her
>>24056375She is old and psychotic, there are cuter, younger, and more mentally stable women in GQuX
>>24056384>youngerI don't care>more mentally stableThat's not true>cuterYou're a liar, Machu's a good paizuri onahole but that's about itOh and Deux sometimes, I guess
>show is filled with stylish, energetic, and supple teen girls>people would rather lust after a middle aged bobblehead womanlet
>>24056474and then there's you, who wants to get pegged by any of the male characters
>>24056474Everyone who likes UC wants a mother figure to tell them, for whatever heinous act they did, is entirely okay.
>>24054918>canonically the greatest oldtype pilot in the entire Gundam franchise with over 100 confirmed kills in a single conflict?She is beaten by several fucking who? aces in mainline UC actually. On both sides of the war even.
>>24056384>>24056474teens aren't robust enough for what I need to be done
>>24056108Where's its face
>>24054918Brave Cod is better than her. Ford Romfellow is better than her. Yazan is better than her. Also she's a newtype.>>24054937Kill count doesn't make a better pilot.
>>24056626>Kill count doesn't make a better pilot.Smartest /m/ user.
>>24056643If a Zeon pilot kills 300 balls, does that make them a better pilot than a different Zeon pilot that kills 100 gundams?
>>24056645A good pilot knows his limits. If he's in a zaku, he's killing balls and running from gundams. Not running from a gundam when in a zaku makes you a bad pilot even if you survive the encounter.
>>24056645Yes, a gundam is just a smaller ball, as a ball is just the head of a very large gundam whose body is invisible. So killing 300 balls is better than killing a mere 100.
>>24056645Absolutely. The guy that says he killer 100 gundams is lying and probably never even sortied.
why the fuck are people so attracted to a post-menopausal woman with insane mental illness who abandons her child to go kill people in the equivalent of space gladiator fights?
>>24056020>And was it a problem for GQuuuuuuX to be deliberately silly?No it was a problem that they managed to squander literally every good interesting outcome that could have played out in an a legit "zeeks won" AU. We could have had so much more out of Gqux it's damn near disingenuous to claim Wfm didn't try enough, no matter how much you genuinely hate the show.
>>24056787Because that as one anon put it best, Shiko was a prime candidate to become a Tomino woman, and that was something people missed seeing in gundam.
>>24056069The deal is that turn A is to be the outcome at the end no matter what.
>>24056847It was 12 episodes faggot
>>24054918According to Gundam Double Fake, Shiiko's alive in the mainline UC090!
Shouldn't they have executed her for war crimes?
>>24057001Cute Shiiko.
>>24057001IS she also named Shiiko or is it just a random bridge bunny with the same haircut? And is that a Gaia Gear?
>>24057021Exhibitionism isn't a war crime.
all the fanart shows her as this sex bomb with enormous titties who is also constantly sweaty but in the show she's a weird plain bigheaded middle aged woman
>>24057050This is what her proportions look like, so you can take a guess how the fan art is like that. She's pretty curvy for being a Pokémon female design.
>>24057001>>24057023>>24057053Do you think she's related to Mirai?
>>24057028I wish she'd perform war crimes on me
>>24057056Doubt. But the art clash being as obvious as Char looking just like his prime counterpart only with his helmet on is just funny. Fortunately he has the same art style as the rest of the GQ cast without the helmet on, at least from what we saw of him a handful of times.
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>>24057120U.C. canon mogging the Gquux universe by having the best woman live beyond 0085
>>24057027It's the GFX-1, it's a mobile suit that was designed by this guy:https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Fukuchi_Mobile_Suit_StationIt was done back when Bandai was trying to revamp and "modernize" the 0079 MS. which is why a lot of the designs specifically look like MS from 0080.
>>24055789I'd like to think Sleggar was her MAV, and the only reason she died was because Sleggar didn't slap, like Mirai.
>>24057120Gcucks confirmed non-canon and can get fucked. Wouldn't surprise me if machu was some drug addict in main uc
>>24057172
>>24057172When did Gquuux ever claim to be canon to UC? It's in the same state as Thunderbolt in that it's its own thing that takes place in an alt UC.
>>24057195Not quite, unlike Thunderbolt which is completely standalone, GQuuuuuuX does step on the mainline UC's toes thanks to its multiverse plot point which ties it to the story of CCA.
>>24057134Wow, these are great. I really like the tank-like torsos. And they somehow made the Juaggu look cool.
>>24057209no it does not you illiterate dummy lmao
>>24055462>Sentient AI that can address the pilot's emotional state, can control the suit on its ownIt's not an AI, dumbass. It's Amuro's soul (or a shard of it) trapped in the MS, not unlike Phenex
>>24057209>GQuuuuuuX does step on the mainline UC's toes thanks to its multiverse plot point which ties it to the story of CCA.You dumb motherfucker.
>>24057120I wonder how many spacenoids canon Sugai gassed and waterboarded
>>24057244That's not the only universe that the show presents, the Amuro that's inside the GQuuuuuuX had to come from somewhere and we all know where he came from.
>>24057244He is talking about Amuro getting isekaied into the endymion system, although nothing about that strictly has to be the mainline UC Amuro. It could be some other Amuro for all we know.
>gundam thread>canon discussionalright time to log off
>>24057218Based.
>>24055232Nta but I think so. All the time spent explaining multiverse bullshit could've been better spent fleshing out what needed it.
>>24055419Mine was the RX-78-2 appearing and everyone treating it like a big deal when noone should have any idea what it is, the red gundam is sitting a few space feet away and is the same thing but that universe styled.
>>24057255Imagine if they'd had the gall to make axis shock just gquuuux lalah abandoning the main UC timeline to set up her next tweak in the queue.
>>24054918It was in a single month as Feddies only introduced MS in late November 0079 in the GQX timeline.
Shuji was correct to murder her, her child would have become super hitler if it was raised correctly.
>>24055416>GQuX never came of as pretentiousIt did to me at times when they spewed superfluous shit like >>24055278 that didn't even seem remotely UC adjacent. But none of it was important anyway so there
>>24058920You don't think a jewtype killing his mom unnecessarily will make him become Super Hitler?
>>24058943It's slang being used as worldbuilding, a lot of writers do it. Read A Clockwork Orange sometime. Or watch it. I don't care.
>>24058989It happened with Char amirite fellas?
>>24054918> oldtype pilot in the entire Gundam franchise with over 100 confirmed kills in a single conflict? Isn't that Tenneth A Jung?
>>24057243No I know that, but the series implies that Amuro only fully awakens when the Endymion Unit is activated. The QuuuuuuX still displays some individuality before that, like the Omega Psycommu controls wrapping around Machu to give her a cooldown hug and autopiloting down to where the Elmeth was submerged on Earth.I like to think Amuro's controlling it and just flying around the Earth Sphere after QuuuuuuX ended, ala the Phenex.
I love the G-Quuux Hambrabi. Fuck incorrect opinions.
>>24059609I always hated the MSV pilots. We never see those guys in any media showing their skills.
>>24060779I don't like Gqux aside from the hentai and Big Zams and I agree with you, can't wait to get the kit>lose a bit of the kite/stingray design>but it can move around better>and all five of its monoeyes can apparently(??) move wowIf they release an affordable Braw Bro I'll defend this show for the rest of my fucking life
>>24060796>Big Zamsno bullshit when that hit at the theater I literally marked out so hard I pointed at the screenI had skimmed the spoilers but thought that was just backstory from the program or something, not actually on-screen
>>24060814My friend's major qualm (one of many) is that a lot of the best or hypest stuff in the show>is just Gihren's Greed but done worse and uglierbut even so, actually seeing multiple of those big smelly stupid fuckers just deploying like that, ready for battleLoving the Big Zam and getting to see like five on the big screen must have felt like>grew up playing with toy tanks as a kid>eventually promoted to marshal in the military>thank God there's another war>you get to deploy squads and squads upon tanks and decide where they go>or even just getting to be a tank driver or commanderI think I went in to the movie one knowing they'd be a thing though. Did the final battle have it? I think I was happily surprised at that, just not enough to outweigh my increasing disappointment with the show
>>24060814lol
>>24055977>Argento SomaI have downloaded and then not watched this shit at least three times, is it worth it to dig through my old hard drives to find again?
>>24062326I thought it was pretty good and the main character is very entertaining. The Frankenstein's monster inspiration is actually pretty light though
>>24056645Ok but she didn't kill 300 balls.
>>24060836They were part of Gihrens forces but they all got mogged by Kycilia's Gyans when Gihren was assassinated
Now that the dust has settled, was gqux good
>>24058989No he'll just become a prostitute like the extra Purus.
>>24060779Probably the best kit in the HG line, fucked up it barely made it in.
>>24054918Asemu bros?
