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>>24049577The first thing that came to my mind was Tallgeese with Hi-Nu wings.
>>24049596same but with the hi nu wings only
>another chad strike freedom designFeels good to have seed kino back after the travesty that was gcucks
>>24049851>those riflesI think it's a Destiny or Impulse variation.
>people seriously believed Shinn wouldn't be piloting a new GundamMan you're all suckers.
>>24049879>>24049851What if the guns are meant to be VSBRs?
>>24049577It would be pretty funny if it was some sort of mass produced version of Destiny Gundam (similar to Rising Gundam or Immortal Justice). I guess call it Eternal Destiny? Some sort of battery powered Destiny Gundam that gets wrecked during the movie while fighting a hijacked Strike Freedom.
>>24050094Unlikely. Destiny was the symbol of Durandal's scheme to enslave the world. It's literally named after his plan. Why would anyone want to mass-produce that?And besides, you already have Destiny Impulse. Same performance, none of the hassle.
>>24049851>chad>k*noFuck off my board with your worthless buzzwords, tourist.
>>24050094That's MSV, so it won't be in the movie.
>>24049987I don't think that was in question. Neither is the fact that SF will mop the floor with whatever shit Shinn's piloting, even without Kira in the cockpit
>>24050327105 Dagger was originally an MSV design as well, and it was featured in the movie.
>>24050323>Same performance, none of the hassle.Its not the same performance. In the books they say that Impulse Gundam's frame couldn't handle the Wings of Light. Because of the core splendor dilhouettes system, the impulse frame was too fragile and developed cracks and stress fractures from using the WoL
>>24050325Or else what? What are you gonna do about it? Gonna cry? Little Duel jr
>>24049577
>>24054206All MS look the same to you
>>24054206Ugly ass blue.
>>24054206>>24054550they were actually niggas
>>24054206Man fuck ZakusWe can't have a good guy Green Gundam because Green became exclusive for evil guys
>>24054206>>24054550Man, I really hate Immortal's Justice wings. Definitely one of the worst looking Seed backpacks.
>>24049987This is MSV. Shinn is gonna be piloting Infinite Justice in the film to set up him replacing Athrun at the beginning of Freedom.
>>24054770Are there other units in this MSV?
>The Rising Freedom CDE Spec Model is a simplified production variant based on this unit, with its specifications adjusted to allow for operation by other organizations. The head, chest ducts, and shoulder verniers have been replaced with parts prioritizing maintainability, and some of the armaments have been swapped out for easier-to-handle alternatives.
>>24057251>The Immortal Justice CDE Spec is a simplified production model with its specifications adjusted so it can be operated by other organizations as well. The head, chest ducts, and shoulder verniers have been replaced with parts designed for ease of maintenance, and it is equipped with hand-held weapons shared with the Rising Freedom CDE Spec. The Calcitra Heavy Beam Cutting Legs have been omitted. It is believed that both the Rising Freedom CDE Spec and the Immortal Justice CDE Spec were developed around CE 75, though the exact timing remains unknown.
>>24057256>The STTS-909 Rising Freedom and STTS-808 Immortal Justice (CDE-spec models) are demonstration Mobile Suits that were exhibited at the CDE (Comprehensive Defense Exhibition), a weapons trade show jointly hosted by Earth and PLANT. CDE...[CUT OFF]>...supplying weapons to third countries poses a threat to national security. To ensure that the weapons sold would not be turned against the country itself, DEDO [apparently stands for "Defense Equipment Development Organization"] implemented specifications controls that went beyond the scope of the design bureau. Specific measures included the black-boxing of critical components, intentionally degrading performance, and...[CUT OFF]>...improving long-range capabilities. In conjunction with this, assembly methods were redesigned, significantly reducing the time required for replacement in the event of damage. The heat exchange ducts that make up the thermal fluid circuit—including those in the chest area—were also redesigned to improve heat dissipation characteristics and mitigate the reduction in component strength caused by thermal stress.
>>24057282In other words, these are monkey models, not unlike the proposed F-16/79 or the Tigershark.It's also interesting that the text says "Earth", rather than "Earth Alliance". Does that mean Orb? Because the text is explicit that these units are derived from the Murasame's technology. While the Atlantic Federation is in good terms with PLANT after the second war and joined COMPASS, that's not the case with Eurasia.My guess is that whatever potential buyer would probably have been a user of EA-manufactured units (Strike Daggers or Dagger Ls), which would explain the visor head.
>>24056358They also featured Sword Calamity, for some reason.
>>24057251nice rifle
Left to right:>1/144 BuCUE Tactical Reconnaissance Type>1/100 Sword Calamity>1/144 Immortal Justice CDE>1/144 Rising Freedom CDE>1/144 Destiny Impulse Theta>1/144 Strike DRAGOON (from SEED Recollection)>1/144 GuAIZ Assault (from SEED Recollection)
More information from 2026/12 Hobby Japan magazine:>At the CDE (Comprehensive Defense Exhibition)—a weapons trade show organized by DIE (Defense Industry Association), an industry association of weapons development companies to which Earth and PLANT belong— PLANT's DEDO (Defense Equipment Development Organization) exhibited these demonstrator MS. The MS were manufactured under DEDO’s direction through a collaborative effort involving established design bureaus such as Heinlein, Asimov, and Clarke, as well as newly established bureaus led by Gernsback, Komatsu, and Smith. It is also reported that technical cooperation was provided by Orb-based companies, including Morgenrote, though both DEDO and Orb have declined to comment officially.>Their PS armor is equipped with a function that adjusts its reflectivity of visible light, allowing it to adopt camouflage patterns that match the terrain and vegetation of the operational area. Although its ballistic performance is lower than that of the PS armor on previous models in order to reduce power consumption, this adjustment was made at the request of DEDO.Morita follows on the old tradition of naming ZAFT's design bureaus after SF authors:>GernsbackAfter Hugo Gernsback, legendary editor of Amazing Stories magazine. The Hugo Awards are named after him>KomatsuAfter Sakyo Komatsu, author of "Japan Sinks" and "Virus". Coincidentally, he shares his surname with Komatsu Ltd., a manufacturer of heavy machinery and combat vehicles.>SmithMost likely after L.L. Smith, author of the Lensman series.
Disappointed we don't have an MSF variant developed for testing reverse-engineered Cal-Re.A tech and weaponry
>>24059081My guess is that the movie's finale is a hard closure for the CE.Nobody touches the aftermath until/unless Fukuda moves first.
>>24059081>Cal-Re.A techIt doesn't have any original technology except the beam absorbing armor Femto armor which recharges the battery. And the databooks say you can't have phase shift armor and Femto armor on the same suit. It's why Akatsuki doesn't have phase shift armor either. The Foundation were only a threat because went hard on drone technology and invested so much resources into drones. Plus building up their forces in secret when everyone was busy. Frankly I'm surprising that 4 ships (Millennium and 3 Orb ships) somehow annihilated all of Foundations fleet of dozens of ships by themselves. It's frankly absurd the more you think about it.
>>24059085Fukuda said he would leave CE in the hands of later talent after Freedom but that was before Zero got oked.
>>24059105Millenium was that powerful, plus alot of them stood down when Zaft retook control
>>24059248Fukuda said that there were no Foundation survivors. Compass killed them all. Only the remnants of the rebel Zaft faction survived.
>>24059257then it's his problem for making the good guys too strong
>>24059257>>24059246>Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said, Fukuda said....We are all getting real tired of your shit, Fukudafaggot. PUT UP LINKS TO THE FUCKING TWEETS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>>24059257ENOUGH OF YOUR FUCKING LIES. This was already settled a year ago and it was only about witnesses to the SF and IJ (in all likelihood, this answer was made in jest), not Foundation as a whole.https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23382903/#23385761Nobody has said anything about the aftermath for Foundation (either the country or its armed forces) after the nuking of its capital and the elimination of Aura and her Accords. Nobody. Not even the novelization points out anything about it. Was it occupied by Eurasia after it retaliated for the nuclear attack on Eldore? Did the Naturals who were oppressed under the Destiny Plan rebel against whatever pro-Aura forces were still around?
>>24059297novelnotcanon
>>24059299The excerpt is about the treatment of Naturals in Foundation, which has nothing to do with the first discussion.Was everyone killed in the false-flag nuclear attack? Unlikely, since overall casualties from the botched operation are about 50k, according to the movie (Hiroshima killed some 100k, and that was a small city in the 1940s).
>>240592971. I was talking about the Foundation fleet in space. They were obliterated completely. 2. The Novel is not canon. Fukuda even joked about supplementary material and said fans shouldn't take it seriously. That the books are only for fun.
>>24059348>Fukuda even joked about supplementary material and said fans shouldn't take it seriously. That the books are only for fun.YES, YOU ALREADY SAID THAT SHIT BEFORE, you stupid fucking braindead Fukudafaggot.https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/24022899/#24023866Get some new fucking material. What, are you going to rant about the Millennium's origins without even having the FUCKING DECENCY OF PUTTING A SOURCE TO WHATEVER BULLSHIT YOU KEEP TRANSCRIBING FROM TWITTER?!
>>24059348>I was talking about the Foundation fleet in space. They were obliterated completely. Wasnt it obvious? Kira fires that electricity attack and all those foundation ships are zapped with like trillions of volts of electricity. those crews must have turned into beef jerky.
>>24059367Random question: does the Director's Cut add a Baldr-class firing its three positron guns? Because they never use them in the original cut.
There's no fucking way in hell they're showing the Jesus Machine getting beat by a GM.
>>24059465do dijehs count?
>>24059387I skipped through the final battle again and couldn't see them being used even once
>>24059465The Freedom was beaten by a Dijeh in Build Fighters.
>>24059500The Dijeh is Amuro's Zeta mech. The fanboys would sooner kill their firstborn child than let anything threaten Zeta Gundam.
>>24059500Hi Nu jobbed to wires and architecture in Gunpla Builders
>>24059725That's just a good strategy.
STTS-909 Rising Freedom (CDE Spec) / STTS-808 Immortal Justice (CDE Spec)>Commentary by Shigeru Morita (Studio Nue)The STTS-909 Rising Freedom and STTS-808 Immortal Justice (CDE Spec) are demonstration Mobile Suits that were exhibited at the CDE (Comprehensive Defense Exhibition), an international arms exhibition organized by the DIE (Defense Industry Association), an industry group comprising weapons and military equipment development companies from both Earth and PLANT. The exhibitor was PLANT's DEDO (Defense Equipment Development Organization). DEDO is an organization that was reorganized after the war under a new leadership structure and serves as the overarching military procurement agency at the top of PLANT's unique development bureau system. The two CDE-specification units were manufactured under DEDO’s command through a collaborative effort that combined traditional design bureaus—such as Heinlein, Asimov, and Clarke—with the newly established Gernsback, Komatsu, and Smith design bureaus. This development approach was adopted due to the unique status of the demonstration units. While the possibility of technical cooperation with Orb corporations, including Morgenrote, has been suggested, there have been no official comments from either DEDO or Orb.In a volatile international environment, allies can become enemies overnight. Therefore, supplying excessively high-spec weapons to third countries poses a threat to a nation’s own national security. To ensure that sold weapons do not turn against the country of origin, DEDO implemented spec controls that transcended the limits of individual development bureaus. Specific measures include the black-boxing of key components, intentionally degrading performance, and implementing mechanisms to disable functions via remote control; however, the details remain unknown.
>>24064340 (part 2)Its most distinctive feature—the demonstration-use color scheme—appears to be mere paint at first glance, but is actually an application of Phase-Shift technology. This function was implemented as a camouflage system that adapts to the terrain and vegetation of the operational area, achieving color changes by manipulating the armor’s reflectivity of visible light. The ballistic protection of the PS armor is set lower than that of its preceding models. Officially, this is presented as a measure to reduce power consumption and extend operational time, but in reality, it is the result of adjustments made by DEDO. Note that while there were earlier models that utilized Mirage Colloid for their camouflage function, this system required complex support equipment for operation and was therefore not adopted. The head sensor array is equipped with a new-generation module featuring improved multimodal capabilities and noise resistance. The shoulder armor features a newly designed layered internal structure, aimed at reducing weight and improving stress dispersion. Consequently, the assembly method has been redesigned, significantly reducing the time required for replacement in the event of damage. The heat exchange ducts that make up the thermal fluid circuit—including those in the chest and other areas—have also been redesigned, improving heat dissipation and mitigating the reduction in structural strength caused by thermal stress.
>>24064341The CDE emphasized flexible localization tailored to operational environments. However, localizing a Mobile Suit—originally developed as a high-performance multi-role machine—through specification control deviates from its original design philosophy. Consequently, it is reported that the development team derided the approach, saying, “This isn’t a wolf in sheep’s clothing; it’s a sheep in a wolf’s clothing.” Furthermore, some have suggested that this may be attributed to a specific pilot from the previous war who possessed an unknown ability known as the “Superior Evolutionary Element Destined (SEED)-factor". DEDO has not commented on this matter at all.Please note that the units' names and model numbers at the time of exhibition may be modified in accordance with the regulations of the technology recipient.
>>24064341>>24064344>>24064340>implementing mechanisms to disable functions via remote controlSo why would anyone buy these machines? Why buy these downgraded Rising Freedom or Immortal Justice units when you could buy 50 Zakus without remote disable? Or 50 Windams? Seems like this MSV is trying too hard to make a niche slot between original Freedom Gundam and Rising Freedom.
>>24064404>So why would anyone buy these machines?>Why buy these downgraded Rising Freedom or Immortal Justice units when you could buy 50 Zakus without remote disable? Or 50 Windams?Why would anyone buy F-35s (instead of much cheaper Gripens or Hornets) when the Pentagon can disable them at any point?https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/04/15/f-35-nations-prize-spare-parts-as-us-dismisses-kill-switch-angst/
>>24064427Because there's huge difference in performance between a Gripen and an F-35.I don't see the same difference of performance between these downgraded Rising Freedom and Immortal Justice machines. They don't have the dragoon shields, they are battery powered, and Immortal Justice doesn't even have leg beam sabers. Why would anyone buy the Immortal Justice then? Its just supposed to be a close combat specialist but only has 2 beam sabers.>Pentagon can remote disable them.Your news article refutes your own point. A kill switch doesn't exist. If it did, then the USA wouldn't be worried about the fighter getting stolen by foreign countries.But spare parts and supplies can be cut off. If you need engine maintenance or spare parts to fix something broken, then Lockheed can also stop offering software updates though. So the plane won't work properly with the latest missiles.
>>24064450>Because there's huge difference in performance between a Gripen and an F-35.And there's a huge difference in performance between a downgraded Freedom and a fucking Windam. It still has all four of its cannons, plus rifle and sabers and Phase Shift. Piloted by an experienced pilot facing enemy grunts, it would still dominate the battlefield.>A kill switch doesn't exist. If it did, then the USA wouldn't be worried about the fighter getting stolen by foreign countries.No, the US *says* the kill-switch doesn't exist. Which isn't the same that there isn't one, and if you take the Pentagon by their word, you're a fucking moron. Who knows if there isn't something hidden deep in some firmware that would cripple the fighter for good.
>>24064453>downgraded Freedom and a fucking Windam.It's not a downgraded Freedom. It's a double downgraded Freedom. Phase Shift Armor that's even weaker than the movie version, downgraded weapons, decreased output, etc.
>>24064453>No, the US *says* the kill-switch doesn't exist. Which isn't the same that there isn't one, and if you take the Pentagon by their word, you're a fucking moron. Who knows if there isn't something hidden deep in some firmware that would cripple the fighter for good.Then that same logic could be applied to any modern fighter that other countries export. What's stopping China, Russia, or the EU from having kill switches in their export fighters they sell to other countries? Your entire point makes no sense.
>>24064464That just sounds like it's more likely for there to be kill switches than not.
>>24064462>downgraded weapons, decreased outputCompared to a state-of-the-art unit.>Phase Shift Armor that's even weaker than the movie versionThe one that needed a bunch of needles specifically to shut it down?You need to think in terms of the opposition you'd be facing. The first battle in the movie gives us a rough idea of that scenario: GINNs, DINNs and ZuOOTs against Windams, obsolete Daggers and even more obsolete linear tanks. Any side that deploys even a downgraded Freedom would dominate the battlefield.>>24064464F-35 requires constant system updates from Lockheed to operate. And I don't mean a patch that gets installed over the internet: they have to send a human technician to your base.China and modern-day Russia couldn't care less who uses their trash, but the US is obsessed with maintaining a technological edge against a potential foe. They've made a tradition of selling downgraded models of their stuff.
>>24064466So why is the Kill Switch argument against the USA somehow unique or special? If a country doesn't want to buy the F-35 because of potential kill switches, then it doesn't guarantee other countries don't have the same thing in their fighters.
>>24064478>So why is the Kill Switch argument against the USA somehow unique or special?Because, again, the US is obsessed about maintaining a technological edge (so did the Soviets, by the way: T-64 was never exported and Bloc allies got monkey models), and Lockheed requires dedicated on-site software maintenance for the F-35. The helmets are made custom for each individual pilot.
>>24064469>China and modern-day Russia couldn't care less who uses their trashOh China absolutely does care. When the Chinese government saw how poorly their Chinese weapons systems and anti-stealrh radar did in Venezuela and Iran against the USA, the Chinese government arrested the Engineers who created the anti-stealth radar, missiles, and the Chinese J-20 stealth fighter. They have been accused of corruption, embezzlement, and selling information.
>>24064484Yeah but the F-35 is not gimped for partner countries. Everyone in the program gets the same F-35. Zaft is trying to sell a severely weakened Freedom Gundam.
>>24064493>Zaft is trying to sell a severely weakened Freedom Gundam.Which, again, is more than enough against whatever threat your potential buyer will be fighting against. Even a gimped Freedom can rape an entire platoon of Windams like it's nothing.
>>24064501But you are forgetting that they are selling this as a "premium super Gundam" at premium prices. This isn't some cheapo mass production machine at bargain basement prices. This is a Gundam. This single Rising Freedom is worth what? 50 Windams in price? I'm not convinced this Rising Freedom is worth that much. I'm convinced the Rising Freedom was only that good in the movie because Kira was piloting it. No way someone like Lunamaria or Agnes could pull off those moves.
>>24064504>But you are forgetting that they are selling this as a "premium super Gundam" at premium prices. This isn't some cheapo mass production machine at bargain basement prices. This is a Gundam.What the fuck are you even arguing here? That one Gundam can blow up half a dozen Windams before they have any time to react. The sensor suite is new, meaning it can do its auto-aim beamspam with no issue whatsoever. And yes, those beam cannons in the shoulders (even downgraded from the "real" Rising) will turn Windams into slag with no issue.>This single Rising Freedom is worth what? 50 Windams in price?That's a bit much, I think. Akatsuki's armor is worth 20 times the price of an M1, and that thing's basically a Strike with DRAGOONs.How much more expensive would a downgraded Freedom be in comparison? Five times the price of a ZAKU, which weren't exported by ZAFT as far as we know?>No way someone like Lunamaria or Agnes could pull off those moves.What? Taking down a bunch of worthless grunts like the Windam? Shinn did it constantly with the Impulse, which has inferior capabilities compared even to this Freedom. Kira just bothers to get in close to disable his foes with melee, but a more conventional engagement would be shoot to kill.Agnes was a shitty pilot, but Lunamaria could take out a Destroy and fended off against aces quite competently.
>>24064512>What the fuck are you even arguing here?That this downgraded Rising Freedom doesn't seem that cost effective or have enough value to justify the price. Let's assume it costs 15 to 20 Windams. Those 20 Windams can cover a wider area and deal with anything short of a Gundam.If you do encounter a Gundam, why not just buy a cheaper surplus machine from the EA like a Raider Gundam or Sword Calamity?
>>24064512>Shinn did it constantly with the Impulse, which has inferior capabilities compared even to this Freedom.1. I'm not even sure how powerful this Freedom is supposed to be. Stronger than original Freedom? Weaker than Impulse?2. Isn't that because Shinn knew he had the Deuterion beam system to rely on, so he just spammed his beam weapons without worrying about saving power because Minerva could recharge him easily in just a few seconds?
>>24064525they barely used the beam, the one time that stood out was when he needed it against a mobile armor
