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    You can't.

    Like, she's so bad canonically that every Gundam game that included her as a pilot deliberately made her terrible stat wise
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    >T. Didn’t even watch 0080 War in the pocket
    She was piloting a machine that wasn’t meant to have been used by normal human beings, and that she was trying not to damage her home colony from any further harm, AND that she was fighting in a incredibly tight space, and the Alex didn’t have its full arsenal, also Bernie’s tactics. I’d suggest watching the ova before you start talking smack about Chris for no reason
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    Hold my beer.
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    Worse than Ryou Roots?
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    >>24045463
    Walking away alive is proof shes a good pilot thoughbeit.Especially considering that in her defining fight she was trapped. Its not like she has 0 kills anyway, she took out the Kampfer

    I say look at Katz if you wanna talk about someone being bad. Crashing into a meteorite is fucking stupid and in ANT thats what he dies from.
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    Why are redheads always so bad at piloting?
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    >>24045463
    She's an oldtype who killed Mikhael in a machine designed for newtypes which is more impressive than anything someone like Char accomplished.

    >>24045501
    She managed to survive Zeta in the fucking Methus of all things. That's impressive for someone who really isn't cut out to be a soldier.
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    >>24045463
    I hate power level wankers
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    >>24045501
    I think it's really funny in a series where a bunch of scrap dealing children take over as the Argama's MS team that the writers still shit on Fa until she stops being a pilot
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    >>24045617
    The reason Emma was killed off was apparently just to give more space to the ZZ cast according to staff statements, so, yeah, she was still lucky in comparison.
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    >>24045620
    That's really sad because the ZZ cast is awful.
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    >>24045463
    She's top tier in SRW GC since she's has innate sniper meaning she's one of the best UC pilots since she can ignore the downsides of mobile suits being M sized.
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    >>24045494
    >She was piloting a machine that wasn’t meant to have been used by normal human beings
    Even in the simulator she took out a Zaku, a Gelgoog and another you couldn't even see in five seconds. A state-of-the-art machine like that, you just don't give to anybody to pilot.
    >she was trying not to damage her home colony from any further harm
    She even willingly walked into a trap because she knew no one lived there.
    I'll just assume OP is someone who was mindbroken by WfM and whose entire personality revolves around "le women... bad!!!!".
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    her stats are decent in G Gen Genesis
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    >>24045463
    She's fine in G Gen Eternal, she's focused on defence and if you throw her in a EFSF MS she can support defend on the player's turn. You can SP her for another 100 Defence too.
    SRW DD gives her the FA Alex too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuulpyNpAZk
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    >>24045463
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    >please post Christina
    Okay.
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    >>24046056
    nah fuck her, she ruined the Alex
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    >>24045505
    Christina didn't piss herself, so no.
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    Why is it called Alex
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    >>24045630
    I suddenly remembered Mondo survives. Holy shit what a despicable mother fucker.
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    >>24045533
    the Methus is one of the better suits on the Argama
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    >>24046056
    FUCK THE H8RS!
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    >>24046160
    And yet Fa trashes it so often that the repair budget could probably have been enough to construct a second Zeta Gundam. Giving the Argama a Double Zeta, if you will.
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    >>24046202
    yeah she's a mediocre pilot
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    Ssai from Gundam Seed literally tripped before taking a single step and I think strike was in the orz pose afterwords.
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    >>24045620
    At least they gave Emma's VA the role as Leina so she still got to be in the show
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    >>24045501

    Even at the absolute apex of her abilities around Gryps Fa was not even close to being a "great" combat pilot. To her credit she handled the Methuss rather well and had a good instinct for avoiding being damaged. Just about everyone on the Argama was better at actually fighting in a Mobile Suit though. Even Astonaige. (Game calculates stats on 1-20, so think of her ranged and melee as 3.5/10 at her absolute best)
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    Banaji
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    >>24045501
    >>24046771
    She does really well for someone who shouldn't be piloting, I think she does get a non-zero number of assists and rescues but I just want her safe and off the front lines
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    >>24045530
    Katz is good enough to have bailed out Amuro and Kamille on different occasions, his fault and death are both due to the fact that he's a teenager who never got his shit slapped like Amuro and Kamille did, and was just too cocky to look at the fucking meteorite instead of gloating
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    >>24045463

    Based on Gihrens Greed she was certainly a more than competent pilot. Frankly if she was with one of the GM Sniper II's in the Scarlet Team, there is a solid chance she might have been able to put down Misha before he was able to even reach the Armory with the Alex. The main reason she suffered so heavily against Bernie was due to a combination of going out in a mostly unarmed Alex and getting drawn into a close combat in a kill box that had been set up specifically for keeping her from being able to aim properly. In terms of raw combat ability, the game has her as more capable than Shiro from 8th MS Team. (Granted, the game also claims Shiro is abnormally charismatic and a natural leader. Something I severely doubt after getting laughed out of his own Military Tribunal for his goofy-ass speech)
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    >>24048324

    Shiro for reference.
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    >>24046855
    >comparing an inexperienced kid to a trained military pilot
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    >>24045617
    While Fa should really have more piloting skill by then, it was clear that she was turbo mindfucked by the end of the Gryps War and extremely conflicted about continuing with Kamille incapacitated as he was. Bright correctly recognized that she was faltering and would likely be killed in action if she continued, so left her behind to look after Kamille with a formal discharge.
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    >>24045463
    Aina is worse, losing in a special Zaku RD4 to a Ball in a 1v1
    Shoutout to Hayato as well who in the TV show I'm pretty sure doesn't get any kills at all until A Baoa Qu.
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    >>24049646
    To be fair to Hayato the Guntank isn't exactly the best mobile suit for demonstrating one's skill.
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    this retard wrecked a brand new V2 for no reason.
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    >>24049756
    AND got himself killed, widowing Marbet and her unborn child. For no reason.
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    >>24046029
    >>24046036

    >mobile game
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    >>24049784
    Its official product it speaks more than you could ever hope to argue.
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    >>24048324
    >Shiro is abnormally charismatic and a natural leader. Something I severely doubt after getting laughed out of his own Military Tribunal for his goofy-ass speech
    Having everyone laugh at your court martial and getting to walk away is actually the best possible scenario, considering the alternatives do include being relieved of command, imprisoned or executed as a traitor.
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    Fuck Christina
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    Literally no one is worse and more annoying than Kou crying and sounding like a faggot.
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    >>24050423
    Yeah but it's Vegeta crying and sounding like a faggot, so it's okay
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    >>24045463
    >Name a worse MS pilot
    Here you go bro
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    >>24046202
    Fa did fine in Zeta it was really only a problem in Double Zeta frankly which I can attribute to the hell her life was during entirety of Double Zeta.
    She managed to survive Yazan hunting her for half of her first sortie considering Yazan's reputation I'd call that a real feat.
    She went to blows with the Palace Athena and survived the fight too.
    If Fa was ever you know properly trained and not in a continual state of being in the new worst month of her life for the entirety of the conflict she'd probably be a good pilot considering she's a fucking schoolgirl with no formal mobile suit training and lacks a powerful n=Newtype sense to lean on to carry her against the many monsters of the Gryps Conflict and Neo Zeon war.
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    >>24050437
    No.
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    >get btfo in two fights
    >only kill is a Medea that practically offered itself up to them
    >in any alt scenario when Ramba Ral gets the Doms instead he successfully takes out white base
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    >>24050452
    Nice try slandering the trio of aces closest to ending the White Devil, who only lost because Amuro both awakened as a Newtype during their fight and Matilda sacrificed herself to stop them from landing a killing blow on Amuro.
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    >>24050440
    >the hell her life was during entirety of Double Zeta.
    I don't want people to talk about Fa anymore...
    >doing her best but gets trashed as a bad pilot with a bad suit
    >gets defended as someone who's got an alright record doing something that she really shouldn't have anything to do with at all
    I just want her to rest
    >in a continual state of being in the new worst month of her life for the entirety of the conflict
    Man...
    I wouldn't call her my favourite, since I generally seem to like unwell women, and Emma Sheen was overall the most reliable woman in Zeta imo, but I don't think anyone has the right to hate on Fa, especially Kamille
    I mentioned before that she got a decent number of assists and rescues as well, I somehow overlooked her dealing with fucking Yazan "Most Of The Named Cast Deaths Were My Doing" Gable
    May he fall down a million manholes forever
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    >>24050457
    Really if you want to call anyone on the Argama jobber incarnate Quattro loses every single engagement he ever has with a named ace Bajeena is right there as the resident seal clubber who can only ever perform well against unnamed grunts.
    Char's ability to dodge fraud allegations is impressive considering he had zero on screen wins against anyone with a name across the entirety of the OG show, Zeta or CCA.
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    >>24050481
    Yeah, I have a friend remind me rather regularly that - especially when compared to how people say he's cool - Char/Quattro jobs quite chronically. I mean, yeah he's a cool loser so whatever. Having actually seen Zeta, I think it's unfair to call it jobbing when he's up against two psychonauts in psycommu MSes with his dinky oldtype suit, but I also definitely don't remember him getting any memorable kills.
    >who can only ever perform well against unnamed grunts.
    That still does make him an ace
    >Char's ability to dodge fraud allegations is impressive
    Not really considering the Hyakushiki is rather agile, heh
    >considering he had zero on screen wins against anyone with a name across the entirety of the OG show, Zeta or CCA.
    Even the one-off rando Titans bastards? I believe you, and there's no immediate counterpoint I can remember where it's even ambiguous who got the kill.
    Oh. If we wanna be an ass to him, one named kill he unambiguously got was Kycilia.
    >arguable assist for killing Garma and maybe Lalah
    I don't mind making fun of the guy but him being the designated jobber of the show where he's the coolest and healthiest he's ever been is a funny kind of depressing, I love him
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    Haman didn't even want to kill him. She uses her funnels like a fucking surgeon to dismember the Hyaku Shiki's arms and legs before he blows himself up because he would rather be dead than go back with her. It's honestly impressive that he stayed alive for as long as he did.
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    >>24050603
    This, and he brings things pretty close to a tie before Haman hightails it out of there seethingly
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    If Char was like "Yeah, Haman, I'll go back with you" she would have ended up killing Scirocco herself.
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    >>24045463
    Stutteta Memecury and the tranny redhead from GCucks
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    >>24046056
    she looks like revy
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    >>24050603
    Would riding the Red Comet have fixed Haman?
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    >>24050927
    No, they're both batshit insane and two wrongs don't make a right.

    However, the hatesex would be amazing and I honestly think they would be great parents.
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    >>24050423
    It would have been cool to see how good Chris would have been in the GP01
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    >>24050960
    >not a manchild with carrot deficiency
    >better diet means she probably won't exhaust herself during albion defense where Koushit had to inject himself with drugs to keep going
    >won't get into stupid ntr fight with Gato to wreck the beautiful GP03 Dendrobium/Stamen
    Would pay to watch this version instead.
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    >>24050960
    >>24050972
    >she as a fellow woman sorta gets Nina's woman moment and is somehow (magically) able to diffuse and improve the situation
    Women get each other, so surely they'll all get along, right
    >inb4 the last fight of the first part is Chris in the GP01 vs Nina in the GP02
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    >>24055092
    That Haman though.
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    >>24045532
    ahem
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    >>24049757
    just man things
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    >>24049673
    Just sideways drift like it's Armored Core 6. Just pivot-turn like a Scopedog. Guntank has untapped potential
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    >>24050522
    Zeta is filled to the brim with pilots who are supposed to be aces but never actually do anything. Hell, if you're going by actual kills of named characters the great loser Jerid is one of the best in the show.
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    >>24056957
    I know Yazan's definitely top tier in that regard and Char in his entire career is at the bottom, but how many was Jerid again? And yeah, as despisable as he is, he's still a good character and an alright pilot from what I remember, and everything that he goes through are things that a protagonist would, everyone's a hero in their own story.
    I'd make a weak counterpoint of "but what if the characters we didn't see named are sometimes also still very decent pilots - going back to the "hero of their own story" bit - and that them not being named in the show isn't a sufficient demerit? A bunch of OYW Zeon aces aren't named in the show, and likewise Apolly and Roberto aren't crucially amazing but we treat them as at least nominal aces. Like, people are only named because they're relevant to the story... but not all the fodder can be aces, nor are all the named characters aces, yeah.
    >tfw was rather bummed out when Apolly and Roberto died
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    >>24057065
    >Char in his entire career is at the bottom
    No?
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    >>24058003
    Anon I love the guy but I think he legit got zero named kills who weren't Zabis
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    Char going head to toe with Haman and Scirocco in Zeta was fucking badass.
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    >>24058006
    It's definitely not a fair battle to point to and say he's a bad pilot
    >fucking Haman and her funnels
    >the O just has its goofy arms but it's still fucking Scirocco and it's still two more arms than you
    >whereas you have an outdated MS that's a little bit agile an that's about it
    >you in fact were not killed and eaten by the end of the day
    I maintain that he's still a decent pilot
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    >>24058009
    The problem with that battle is that he's very clearly being toyed with the entire time in a battle where he has the terrain and objective advantage, he's not winning he's barely surviving and getting zero blows in against his enemies, eventually his "draw" with Haman is because she wants to take him alive instead of killing him. That "fight" is still one of Char's best feats when it comes to fighting aces but it's not exactly a great one since Char is consistently terrible at fighting anything or anyone near his level of skill or greater, though with that said Char's great at punching down consistently across the franchise if he's fighting a bunch of fodder pilots he's one of the best pilots at dismantling them just don't expect him to win anything resembling a fair fight.

    >>24056957
    That's kind of the point, most of the fights we see in the Gryps Conflict are skilled pilots with combat experience under their belt with the floor raised people like Char who normally run over battlefields full of novices are constantly caught off guard on put under pressure. We see occasion moments of aces verse regular pilots in Zeta too, stuff like the Gundamjack or the drop on Jaburo where they just run over a group of regular pilots that's out numbering them.
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    >>24059829
    Yeah, I wouldn't disagree with anything you said. I think it's still a bit impressive how he held out, although yeah you can definitely raise some doubt that
    >someone toyed with and intended to survive indeed survived/made himself presumed-dead and almost buried one opponent but didn't
    I think him being able to run circles around nameless pilots still puts him in ace level but unfortunately most people with a nametag are either better newtypes or just better pilots in general
    Wait, who fared better between Quattro and Emma Sheen, because I like both, I like all the AEUG pilots who aren't Reccoa or Katz (and even they were skilled too)
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    >>24059929
    When it comes to fighting aces even though she well died (though not from losing a fight with another ace), Emma I think was a far better duelist. She doesn't fold immediately in any of her duels, actually won her fight against Reccoa and while her suit was effectively scrap after the fight, she managed to complete the significantly harder victory condition of not killing the enemy while disabling them in said duel, she also took out both of Yazan's wingmen with Ramsus being confirmed dead and Dunkel being a probably based on the fact he never shows up again after she blasts his suit in half.

    Also, it's hard to really even call Katz a bad pilot even if him running into a rock is pretty bad since he never really gets to fight in a mobile suit, it's like calling Sayla a bad pilot despite her also never fighting while trained in a mobile suit. Katz is so neglected in universe the AEUG never even bothered to give him a real mobile suit to pilot, despite giving Fa one.
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    >>24059992
    >Emma did great
    Wooo
    >it's hard to really even call Katz a bad pilot
    Yeah I wouldn't, I just didn't want to spend time on him. He got a decent number of assists for Kamille as well as Amuro, him losing to a space rock is more due to his arrogance I think
    >since he never really gets to fight in a mobile suit
    Did he never pilot the Mk-II, but oh well
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    >>24045501
    She makes up for it by being the best girl in two shows.
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    >>24045463
    Kou Uraki
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    Denim was already a veteran and lost to a total noob (Amuro).
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    >>24061905
    Veteran against tanks and shit? His MS v MS experience cannot be much by that point.
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    >>24046712
    The only correct answer.
    >Cucked
    >Emasculated in public
    >Tries to prove he can be a pilot
    >The Strike immediately perfoms a dogeza the second he activates it
    >In front of the entire hangar crew
    There is no recovering from this level of humiliation.
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