>If you aren't eternally humble, always being a weak highroader, and let everyone walk all over you at all times, you are under Satan's influence.>if you have any disagreement with doctrine you are being led astray towards Satanwhy are Christcucks like this
I bought a copy not long ago. I wanted the version specifically with the Screwtape Proposes A Toast epilogue that was added later and was surprised how difficult it was to find. I ended up buying a copy from Amazon printed by an obscure academic press (picrel). Is Screwtape Proposes A Toast even worth reading though?
>>25624080Marxists control all publishing houses, so obviously they'd try and obscure it
>>25623985Protestantism breeds mental illness
>>25624098Catholicism breeds mental retardation
>>25624096wowthats an impressively stupid thing to say.
>>25624098It’s not just Protestantism. Christian morality as a whole is a complete inversion of classical morality. It goes down the list of every modus operandi that makes man great and says “erm, isn’t that a bit problematic? Think of muh meek, don’t pass anyone else up too far!” It’s the most cucked and pathetic way of carrying yourself as a man in the world.
>>25623985When you go back to /his/, read the stuff the Catholics put out about the nature of salvation and the stuff the Protestants did, specifically Calvin's contemporaries. Hell, read about Wesleyism. It'll make your blatant troll posts more effective at sparking what you want.
>>25624080>Is Screwtape Proposes A Toast even worth readingits not as interesting but it argues that todays sinners dont even know theyre sinning
>>25623985the reason is they dont know what sin is because their pastors wont tell them and they refuse to read the Bible
itt: mom forced me to go to church thrice a year therefore God doesn't exist. Hail Wodan.
>>25623985The average teenage Christcuck is somewhere watching cp in a dirty room inside their mom’s house. A decade from now they’ll probably be in prison, or teaching Sunday school. Who knows.
>replying to your own OP
>>25624120>classical moralityWhat, rape and murder? Not that the British and Spanish weren't rapists and murderers too, but don't act like the Greeks and Romans cared about virtue.
>>25624307no you don't get it you christcuckslavery is based killing people who "dishonor" you is basedmisogyny and pedophilia is basedthat's why Islam is the only remotely acceptable abrahamic religion. VGH what could have been...if only the romans exterminated the kikes....SIGH...
>>25624323Islam claims the ancient Jews were actually Muslim tho
>>25624307>>25624323>not being a doormat cuck means you’re literally a RAPIST MURDERER!!Why are christgolems like this lmao. Classical morality means functional excellence rather than “sinlessness”, unabashed Earthly flourishing rather than feeling one must live meekly or risk not achieving salvation, greatness of the soul rather than institutionalized humility, and justice as reciprocity rather than undeserved universal love and grace. Across every dimension classical morality is an affirmation of life and mastery, while christian morality in contrast is about “redemption” of oneself from an institutionalized guilt of “sin”. Christian morality is cucked across every single metric. It’s pathetic.
>>25625227> functional excellence> unabashed Earthly flourishingMeaning what? Being good at your job? Making money? Great, the mysteries of consciousness and being are solved by investing in my stock portfolio!> greatness of the soul rather than institutionalized humilityAnd what is your definition of "greatness of the soul". Because for a Christian those who have love for God and neighbour, the martyrs who died for their faith, and were most in touch with God, have the greatest souls, and are canonised as Saints. So for a Christian there is no distinction between a great soul and a humble one.> justice as reciprocity rather than undeserved universal love and graceThe beauty of the Christian message is that God forgives everyone who is truly repentant, and punishes the unrepentant wicked. So where is the injustice in this belief? How is the prodigal son "undeserving" of the love he receives?The problem is you take the most normie, "commonsense" view of morality, where the good life is defined in terms of your immediate, practical, egotistical worldly success and not in terms of spiritual connection to the absolute transcendent reality which is God. You are unable to think or feel deeper like Christian morality calls for.
>>25625252>Meaning what? Being good at your job? Making money?Meaning reaching the highest state of human power and intellect in this life without needing to call human nature dirty or grovel for supernatural forgiveness from manufactured guilt.>And what is your definition of "greatness of the soul".Having real, justified pride in your own capability and stature. Calling a humble soul "great" just reframes submission as a virtue. Absolute cuck shit.>So where is the injustice in this belief? How is the prodigal son "undeserving" of the love he receives?Honor and standing are earned through duty and merit. The Prodigal Son completely severs action from consequence by putting a lifetime of squandered weakness on the exact same level as a lifetime of discipline. Saying classical morality lacks "depth" just shows you know nothing about classical metaphysics. Connecting to the divine comes through heroic elevation, discipline, and order, not by declaring yourself broken to beg for a divine bailout.>You are unable to think or feel deeper like Christian morality calls for.Mistaking guilt and self-pity for "depth" is such cope. Obsessing over your own neurosis isn't profound. It just trains you to worship your own weakness. This mindset is what Christian morality is ultimately predicated on and it’s why I can’t stand you cucks. You turn your nose up at others for not being subscribed to your masturbatory guilt circlejerk all while calling yourselves humble. It’s all such performative cope and it’s all so cucked.
>>25625816Your definition of morality is just the normal, commonsense definition, which every practical man already believes in. Store up riches, power, and glory for yourself. Fuck everyone else. Why I said it isn't "deep" is no mind that is fully aware of its own mortality, the arbitrariness of its circumstances of birth, the mystery of its consciousness, the contingency of the world, and so on, could give very much importance to these practical realities, beyond accepting them as necessary for survival. It certainly would not elevate them as the highest good. In fact, it is my firm conviction, that all of these practical values we have are artificial and imposed by the necessities of living in this world. We need to block out our deepest feelings because if we walked around gawping at the mystery of existence and, teary-eyed, embracing the world with love, and standing in awe at its beauty, we would starve to death. We need to get a job, so we must shut that part of ourselves up. This is why when we take psychedelic drugs which remove all repression we immediately experience a reversion to what Thomas De Quincey described as: >a healthy restoration to that state which the mind would naturally recover upon the removal of any deep-seated irritation of pain that had disturbed and quarrelled with the impulses of a heart originally just and good.At the same time though, I get what you're saying, and I admire the morality you advocate, in some ways, at least from an aesthetic point of view. It is the morality of lions, and practical men, and gunslingers in Western movies, and in some sense it is admirable. But religion is ultimately the realm of schizos and autists, who have the power of self-reflection, and so the morality it advocates will never line up with the morality of the practical man.
