Nietzsche says pity is harmful because it diminishes strength on the part of the one that pities. That much I can understand.But why is it harmful that the weak are kept alive? I thought the benefit of natural selection was that it develops strength, but I don't see how the survival of the weak prevents that. I can understand how perhaps you would be somewhat pleased if there were fewer plebeians running around spouting off their plebeian nonsense but other than that I see it as a matter of indifference whether or not they survive.Why is it necessary for Nietzsche to cull the weak?
>>25623327If there are no plebs then someone without pity was strong enough to get rid of them and now no-one can pity again. If you are no fan of pity sounds like win win
>cries over a broken horse
>>25623402I don't believe this ever actually happened
>>25623327>I thought the benefit of natural selection was that it develops strengthThis is the Social Darwinian view (not Darwin himself), and Nietzsche disagreed with it, asserting instead that natural selection developed adaptability, which is a soft feminine trait in Nietzsche's eyes (i.e., a weakening of masculine power, which is what his word "strength" was really synonymous with). His overmen were therefore antithetical to the process of natural selection; history stands against them, and vice versa. (Which complements the many times he was critical of traditionalism and conservatism.)
>>25623327im probably going to butcher something so forgive menitch is somewhat torn between wanting to overcome the christian morality of the meek inheriting the earth while also not wanting to become the butcher and tyrant of the weak. he's not exactly some jocko-esc TND cynic, but he also wants the world to awaken into acknowledging the "void" and building their own values from it upon seeing it.I'll explain this with the camel, lion, and babythe camel is the mule, the meek obeyier that follows because it ought to. this is the average man for nitch.the lion is the destroyer, and you would be probably see the "destruction of the weak" expression here the most. the lion is the violent man who destroys his mind of the previous thoughts and ideals. but this is not the final form of the superman.that would be the baby, the figure that has destroyed what stood before them and, critically, built something anew on the rubble, and just as critically a joyful openness to the newfound liberation of life itself.nietzsche doesn't call for you to gun down the camels and lynch the mules, he wants you to rebuild yourself and from the ruins make new pillars to control life on your own terms, in a sense.
>>25623327>But why is it harmful that the weak are kept alive?to make room for stronger higher beings, we've gone completely backwards trying to save everyone. anyone that tells you oh no he means something else blah blah is a dumb leftist trying to keep the edgy larp parts of Nietzsche's philosophy. The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it. What is more harmful than any vice? — Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak — Christianity.
>>25624619I just don't see how it makes any difference whether the weak are alive or not. I don't see how it interferes with the process of creating higher types.
>>25623402>gets duped over an obvious case of telephone
>>25623960were you there?
>>25624670Ok, now imagine saying this about the tropical races 200 years ago. Now we are going to be swamped and destroyed by them
>>25623327>natural selection>nietzscheStopped reading.Sage'd.OP is a retard.
>>25625358>If one measures the effects of pity by the gravity of the reactions it sets up, its character as a menace to life appears in a much clearer light. Pity thwarts the whole law of evolution, which is the law of natural selection. It preserves whatever is ripe for destruction; it fights on the side of those disinherited and condemned by life; by maintaining life in so many of the botched of all kinds, it gives life itself a gloomy and dubious aspect.Have you not read the text?
>>25625578This is retarded. Humans are social animals. Even the weaker members of the tribe (typically the women) can contribute positively to the tribe's survival. Are all women "ripe for destruction?"In fact without the tribe, there is no survival, as Nietzsche conveniently proved by dying prematurely. Fucking loser.
>>25624619easily said, when you're some asshole who knows his sister has got his back, when he falls ill and needs help
>>25625578fuck lifeshit is massively overrated, anyways
