>I'm the creator, I create Melkor and Mairon>I gave Melkor existential frustation and Mairon extreme OCD>I create a world with minerals to allow a fast technological progress, BUT YOU CAN'T USE THEM!>I create living beings that can die by age, battle, poison, etc, because I can>NO! I'm not the bad guy, my imperfect (on purpose) minions are the bad guys>I'M THE CREATOR, I CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT!
>>25623269>NO! I'm not the bad guy, my imperfect (on purpose) minions are the bad guys>I'M THE CREATOR, I CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT!It's actually way worse than thatThe actions Melkor takes to fuck shit up actually shape the world into it's intended fully formed state. He never had free will to rebel, his rebellion was always an intended part of the song, him and Mairon were always the designated fall guys since the dawn of time when they were created, and he was always intended to get turned into the tool that destroys the entire world and kills everyone at Dagor Dagoroth according to Eru's plan.
>>25623269>>>/tg/
>>25623269Tolkien is a WW1 vet. Read all LOTR through that eye.> I give the world enough minerals to allow technological orogress but noAmong all of the high elves, why did the Noldorin (Aulë's favourite, tech faction) rebel, and not the Vanya (Melkor/Varda's favourite, /lit/ faction)?Also why was WW1 mobilization depicted as the sack of Isengard and in the nightmare of Frodo as Orcs occupy the Shire and create weapons plants there?> I create {imperfect race}.The humans were created at the second discordant melody of Melkor/Morgoth & Co. Therefore human imperfections can be attributed to there, however Tolkien always referred to death and a finite life as a gift, pushing humans toward development by raising further and further generations, while Melkor/Sauron pushes gerontocracy and a strife for long/eternal life. Read the fall of Númenor. Also Tolkien denies the eternal soul: Elves, when they die go to the halls of Mandos (see: Valhalla, no it's not Tolkien's effort to rephrase the Ring of the Nibelungs, where are my Valk... oh they are the Eagles); while humans go beyond the boundaries of the world.
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>>25623493>The actions Melkor takes to fuck shit up actually shape the world into it's intended fully formed state. He never had free will to rebel, his rebellion was always an intended part of the songI knew that, but I didn't want the OP greentext to be too long.What I don't get is how many people can't see it, one could expect that at least someone, famous writer or random reader, would speak about this at some point.It's even more stupid when you see that Amazon could have done something like this, a proper deconstruction of Eru's narcissistic insanity, yet they prefered to make the awful Ringz o' Powa'.>>25624299I can't answer to your first question, despite it's very interesting, I have to admit that my knowledge of the elves is not a deep as I wish to be.>why was WW1 mobilization depicted as the sack of Isengard and in the nightmare of Frodo as Orcs occupy the Shire and create weapons plants there?From what I know and IF I got your question right is, apparently for young Tolkien moving from the countryisde house of his father to the working-class neighborhoods of city was traumatic, since there was no nature nor peace nor silence, just pollution, illnesses and awful noises. Plus his mother got sick and died in those slums.Now, with WW1 and the revolution of the military industry added to that, you can see why Tolkien had an anti-tech message, for him the last days of Númenor were an steampunk nightmare.My problem with his anti-tech message is it doesn't fit reality, it' just James Cameron's Avatar but in European Middle Ages, both Tolkien and Cameron didn't / don't get the reason mankind is so voracious is because we were forced to evolve in this way, nature is not the wholesome chungus primitive utopia they have in their minds, it's what you see in the nature documentaries, a wild cruel place with some chill nice moments.And with Tolkien is even worst, because at least Cameron's Eywa cares a little about her slaves, Tolkien's Eru (aka, Yahweh) only care when men are so feed up the state of the world that they want to reach Valar and achieve immortality, then Eru nukes Númenor.>Eru's logic>create an amazing world full of wonders>turns his son Melkor into a mass-murder to "improve" the song of the creation>mankind appears>mankind wants to enjoy immortality to see and experience all of the wonders of the world>Eru "the perfect being" gets mad (feauture of an imperfect being) when see mankind wanting to achieve immortality>something he himself allow to be implemented in mankind's geneticsIdk about you anon, but I think Julian II 'the Philosopher' was right when he banned christians from teaching / interpret mythology, writing stories and recording history.
>>25625154You're jewish.
