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    Any books which offer a serious critique of Marxism?
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    >>25620579
    Main Currents of Marxism by Leszek Kołakowski
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    >>25620579
    No.
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    >>25620579
    Author: the moon is made of cheese and water actually isn’t wet

    This board: any author that refutes this? Bros I can’t think for myself…
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    >>25620887
    It is? It's not? ?!
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    >>25620579
    The tragedy of the Commons if you're talking about the anarchist school of thought, animal farm for the all the other schools of thought.
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    >>25620579
    >To suppose that with communalised means of production there will be such an abundance of things as is now produced by compulsory division of labour is like supposing that after the emancipation of the serfs the domestic orchestras and theaters, the home-made carpets and laces and the elabourate gardens which depended on serf-labour would continue to exist as before. So that the supposition that when the Socialist ideal is realized every one will be free, and will at the same time have at his disposal everything, or almost everything, that is now made use of by the well-to-do classes, involves an obvious self-contradiction.
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    >>25620832
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    >>25620591
    /thread
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    I'm sick of how mindbroken by politics this board is, that shit has its own board.
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    >>25620579
    Left wing people should be hunted with drones like all of those conscripts in the Ukraine. I am perpetually frustrated that, as courage and physical aptitude are naturally right-wing traits, and cowardice and ectomorphic weakness, effeteness etc. are naturally left-wing traits, the majority of soldiers in any given age are bound to be actual humans with conservative Proclivities. It makes it unfun to watch all of these Russian and Hohol teenagers get blown up because if they're fit for combat at all, they almost certainly don't deserve to die.

    Obviously this is unacceptable. I want a Left Wing Somme. All of these ideological vermin and subhumans should be conscripted. Prisons should be emptied and armed with cheap weapons and herded into a peat bog in Eastern Europe to be eviscerated by bombs and gunfire. I want to see slender-armed sidecut faggots forced to fight over a knife in the mud and kill each other. I want to see hordes of bandy-legged niggers turned inside out with mortar shells dropped by drones. I want to see fat dykes bayonetted by wide-eyed horrified disney adults with their skin sagging from rapid unhealthy weight loss.

    I want to see them rob the dying, digging through their webbing for food and chocolate and cigarettes before they're even dead. I want to see them eat each other. I want to see them beg for their lives as FPV drones zoom in on their little left-wing faces, I want to see their black-rifle coffee drinking faggot throats slit, their corpses hung up by their ankles. I want to see left wing HOGS bleeding into pools of red mud beneath the trees. I want to see their corpses eaten by dogs in the trenches. I want to force them to kill each other, and then mock the survivors for being traumatized afterwards.

    Slit the left wing pig's skin down along the spine and deglove him like a wetsuit. Peel the left wing hog's face off and wrap it around a volleyball and name it Wilson. Blind left wing women and force them to tend silkworm hatcheries for the remainder of their lives. Swing their children by their legs vertically into fire hydrants.
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    >>25621983
    Most sane pederast
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    mein kampf

    srs
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    >>25622000
    Marxism beat Nazism
    Liberalism beat Marxism
    Oligarchy beat Liberalism
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    >>25622001
    All of those systems were oligarchal, Liberalism defeated both of the others because the other two only ever existed as weapons employed by Liberalism to consolidate its power.

    The most laughable pretense of the 20th century was the idea that Fascism or Marxism or more broadly any sort of Socialist or Communist project was an actual RIVAL to Liberalism, when in fact Liberalism created all of them--provably--as ways of destroying its enemies. The Communist movements only ever got a shot to begin with because Liberals funded them to eliminate the remaining Monarchies.

    In actuality, as we have seen from the results of this whole absurd punch and judy show, one cannot attack Liberalism from one of its branches. Only naked pre-enlightenment Absolutism can shake the tree of Liberalism.
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    >>25621028
    stupid book, stupid quote
    fuck off cunt
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    >>25621983
    you smell like a weak sub who pays to lick feet and never gets off.
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    >>25622054
    >stupid book
    You haven't read it
    >stupid quote
    You haven't refuted it
    >fuck off cunt
    Mad cuz you know he's right
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    >>25620579
    https://mises.org/library/book/pictures-socialistic-future
    You can just download the PDF
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    >>25620579
    very hungry caterpillar.
    rainbow fish.
    the giving tree. (a greek tragedy)
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    ...you just posted it
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    >>25622374
    any low iq marxist can debunk most of BB's objections and Kołakowski's book is limited to Soviet marxism (not many of them in 2026)
    i think you just have to accept that worldviews rely on intellectual dishonesty and can never be definitive
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    >>25620579
    Why do you need a book to critique something that makes no sense on its face?
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    >>25620579
    Karl Marx and the Close of His System, a 1896 book by Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk which demolishes the economic arguments.
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    >>25622810
    very dishonest post
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    >>25622057
    I try not to analyze the political implications of fetishes because they're gross but if it makes you feel any better I would also send all of the feet people into human wave attacks. And the gays. And the troons--paraphilias in general in fact. And everyone who likes piercings. And anyone who likes the Beatles.
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    >>25622847
    Disliking feet is extremely Jewish.
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    >>25620579
    The only semi good one I can think of is Baudrillard's work. Maybe Focault has some essays on it. Rest all of it is reactionary trash.
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    >The only semi good one I can think of is Baudrillard's work. Maybe Focault has some essays on it. Rest all of it is reactionary trash.
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    >>25622867
    Footfags get turned into compost.
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    >>25620579
    Economics for Dummies
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    >>25622227
    stupid post
    fuck off
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    Marx has never been refuted or critiqued successfully.
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    >>25622454
    >any low iq marxist can debunk most of BB's objections

    How? Especially with modern liberalized contracts.
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    >>25623306
    It has literally never been refuted. I've never seen a commie refute it. They cite the magic of robots and automation, as if even today we're anywhere close to being able to achieve automated luxury for all, or some of the more honest ones will finally admit that yes we will beat people with a stick so that they'll do the shitty jobs that enable a wholesome endless supply of stress-free Amazon deliveries. And then you ask how is that any better than capitalism then they reset into other mental gymnastics, and then you just kind of walk away because you realize you're dealing with a mentally unwell individual who just finds comfort in collectivist ideology.
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    >>25620579
    Marx offered the best diagnosis of the capitalist problem and many of his critiques still hold water today. The major problems with Marx are as follows. Firstly his reading of history was completely flawed. He had an eschatological view wherein the drivers of human behaviour were the economic conditions. Complete misreading of history. Secondly, by reducing human beings to their economic status and neglecting absolutely the spiritual realm, he developed a completely false picture of the human being and society. Thirdly, and crucially, he hadn't actually finished his theory. Most people misunderstand this. He had diagnosed the problem but he never really came to a fleshed out solution and what predictions he did make proved false, such as the revolution occurring in the most developed capitalist societies (Britain and Germany) whereas it instead happened in a backward and borderline feudal societies (Russia and China). I think Marx also is unfairly blamed for the atrocities in those communist countries when he warned specifically against "heroes on horseback" as he called them which one could label those such as Lenin and Mao as absolutely being
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    >>25623370
    there's no reason to refute such a clearly biased and moronic ignorant statement. take your protestant people are lazy bullshit somewhere else.
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    >>25623336
    now i have no clue what modern liberalized contracts are but despite citing the guy at length, BB fails to understand the value theory and as such his book sucks donkey balls and has historical value at best
    Thomas Sowell was supposedly a real marxist looney until he grew out of it though... gonna read him next
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    >>25623678
    >there's no reason to refute such a
    Kek embarrassing
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    >>25620579
    Kolakowski MCM vol 3
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    >>25622454
    >and Kołakowski's book is limited to Soviet marxism
    The critique of the KAPD and left communism is sufficient to articulate to socialist humanism, Castoriadis / J-F tendency and Autonomia.

    Ccru is just Frankfurt on speed wnd the critique of Structuralism is either a wife or Cambodia.
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    >>25623744
    mirror, bro. ciao.
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    >>25621519
    /his/ is mostly atheist shitflinging and as a god fearing man its better for my cortisol levels if I stay off that board.
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    von mises socialism

    karl popper
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    >>25622847
    >anyone who likes the Beatles
    Don't let boomers ruin objectively the best band of all time for you. Give me a better album than Abbey Road, you can't because it doesn't exist
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