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    It only takes one moment of pure joy to make all the rest of the bullshit worthwhile.
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    Be yourself.
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    >>25620227
    filtered
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    >>25620273
    Wrong. It appears that you were filtered little pseud.
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    >>25620226
    Good and evil should be objective, actually.
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    >>25620276
    Explain (you) can't lol faggot 8^)
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    >>25620229
    for research purposes
    where is this image from
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    >>25620226
    Jesus CHRIST what an UGLY motherfucker. No wonder he became a "philosopher" just to cope with being a whiny, weak, ineffectual incel loser, lmao.
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    >>25620346
    shalom!
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    >>25620226
    I follow every thing BAP says
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    >>25620226
    I am the master of my fate.
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    I could easily overpower and rape him.
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    >>25620357
    not filtered
    >>25620363
    filtered
    >>25620369
    not filtered
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    >>25620226
    (You) were filtered because you ask for a sentence and not an image (of physique.)
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    >>25620353
    He was pro-kike you fucking retard, lol
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    >>25620379
    yeah but that was a subjective preference. That doesn't make Varg Vikernes any less Nietzschean
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    >>25620379
    I was just saying hello, Moishe, cool it. Idk why you ppl get so upset so easily.
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    >>25620226
    Ignore German Romanticism and Idealism, because they are fag shit.
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    >>25620379
    If you believe this, you were filtered or more likely never read any Nietzsche lol and lmao.
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    >>25620226
    The weak must fear the stronk
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    >>25620389
    Now you're literally projecting. Bet you think he was the poster boy for atheism too, huh retard?
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    I don't care about nietzsche at all. I don't think we need to have this many threads about him every day. I don't even think he's actually all that important as far as philosophers go. I think 99% of these threads are just a means for you psuedointellectual fags to perform for one another.
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    >>25620437
    Cut your loses dude lol it's over
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    >>25620444
    You don't belong on this board.
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    >>25620444
    You're the kind of faggot that always wants to be a mod
    kys
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    >>25620226
    i don't care that much for "philosophers" who went insane and had syphilis
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    >>25620451
    >>25620454
    >>25620456
    >That many melties THAT fast
    Exquisite.
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    I don't care what non-sex-havers have to say about anything. If you failed at the ONE thing you're actually put on this earth to do then your ideas can't be THAT important, you couldn't even manage to pass your supposed "massive intellect" onto the next generation, KEK.
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    >>25620451
    >>25620454
    >>25620456
    Make me leave, big boy. You won't because you can't.
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    >>25620474
    >take the blame for simps allowing women to have rights and enforcing them with state violence
    No, I don't think I shall.
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    >>25620474
    filtered
    >>25620481
    filtered
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    >>25620486
    >t.ineffectual failure of the survival of the fittest competition
    >>25620492
    Non-issue
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    Nietzsche's ideas being permanently tied to the Darwinian theory of "might makes right" and "survival of the fittest" when Nietzsche himself was a fucking weakling who failed to pass on his genes and almost all of his adherents are work-shy pasty NEET incels who die alone is peak comedy in my eyes.

    You literally FAILED at the very thing you obsessed about, LMAO
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    Thinking some people actually get filtered by Nietzsche is a clear sign that you've never actually read any Nietzsche, OP.
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    >>25620505
    > 14. Anti-Darwin. – Was den berühmten »Kampf um's Leben« betrifft, so scheint er mir einstweilen mehr behauptet als bewiesen. Er kommt vor, aber als Ausnahme; der Gesammt-Aspekt des Lebens ist nicht die Nothlage, die Hungerlage, vielmehr der Reichthum, die Üppigkeit, selbst die absurde Verschwendung, – wo gekämpft wird, kämpft man um Macht ... Man soll nicht Malthus mit der Natur verwechseln. – Gesetzt aber, es giebt diesen Kampf – und in der That, er kommt vor –, so läuft er leider umgekehrt aus, als die Schule Darwin's wünscht, als man vielleicht mit ihr wünschen dürfte: nämlich zu Ungunsten der Starken, der Bevorrechtigten, der glücklichen Ausnahmen. Die Gattungen wachsen nicht in der Vollkommenheit: die Schwachen werden immer wieder über die Starken Herr, – das macht, sie sind die große Zahl, sie sind auch klüger ... Darwin hat den Geist vergessen (– das ist englisch!), die Schwachen haben mehr Geist ... Man muß Geist nöthig haben, um Geist zu bekommen, – man verliert ihn, wenn man ihn nicht mehr nöthig hat. Wer die Stärke hat, entschlägt sich des Geistes (– »laß fahren dahin! denkt man heute in Deutschland – das Reich muß uns doch bleiben« ...). Ich verstehe unter Geist, wie man sieht, die Vorsicht, die Geduld, die List, die Verstellung, die große Selbstbeherrschung und Alles, was mimicry ist (zu letzterem gehört ein großer Theil der sogenannten Tugend).
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    >>25620226
    I wasn’t filtered because that would require I actually read him. Instead I just pretend I have and use the sheer force of my rhetorical prowess to convince people I understand him better than they do.
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    >>25620493
    faltered
    >>25620505
    filtered
    >>25620713
    filtered
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    >>25620699
    >Heh! I used the German, because you clearly don't know it ;^)
    You're fucking pathetic, lmao.
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    >>25620720
    Non-issue
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    >>25620725
    I accept your concession.
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    >I-I.... accept y-your concession!
    We both know you copy and pasted that from an outside source, you didn't type it out. You performative little FAGGOT.
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    >>25620725
    filtered
    >>25620729
    faltering (still)
    >>25620753
    filtered
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    >>25620760
    I accept your concession.
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    >>25620337
    Monster House (2006)
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    The true Übermensch is a spook and doesn't exist. If you're a Nietzschean kind of a guy, you should strive to be like Goethe or Jung.
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    plato is a fag
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    >>25620226
    I never read Friedrich Nietzsche.

    I was bullshitting...

    Sorry. He is a better philosopher than me.
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    how i wish to have a friend
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    >>25620226
    Dionysos, dude!
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    Amor fati
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    It's so cringe when people try to praise down syndrome, you're just being manipulative. True kindness is realizing who your kind is and who it's not, if the line is blurred for you, and you see some down syndrome as brotier, and let them fuck your sister, then it isn't "kindness" because you don't realize who your kind is
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    >>25620226
    I always bring a riding crop to da club.
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    >>25620226
    stfu you don't tell me what to do
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    >>25620226
    It's strange that the Overbeck/Nietzsche correspondence isn't more widely known, given that Overbeck completely masters him (which is perhaps why he was Nietzsche's favorite 'interlocutor').
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    >>25620226
    God is dead, and we killed him.
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    >>25620226
    U first
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    anyone who can totally discombobulate themselves in the same run on sentence and laugh about it is someone i'd like to get black out drunk with

    doesn't mean he had almost anything to say about anything. HST Eternal return is one the only important philosophical takes of all time. Bakes in "what is real" the epistemology in a practical sense, time value, bear in the woods theory, practical wankery, and torture porn.
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    >>25620505
    darwin never said this you fucking non reader

    stop thinking whatever that speed reading app being downloaded on ur phone gives u a pass and make a good shitpost u fuckwit
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    >>25622015
    Shut up, shitmuncher. Didn't read your post btw.
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    >>25622014
    filtered
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    >>25621009
    Filtered.
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    >>25622350
    no you
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    >>25621009
    >spook
    Interesting. Let's talk more about the real Nietzsche, the spookman and milk tycoon himself.
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    >>25620353
    >doesn't know, didn't read
    Many, many such cases!
    (I didn't read him too.)
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    >>25620505
    This sentiment doesn't know what itself is saying or why. Whether you succeed at surviving or being the fittest is completely detached from whether one can successfully observe that the fittest do survive. One can correctly observe that if one MMA fighter is 50 pounds heavier than the other, that heavier fighter is surely going to win and take home the prize money, even if that observation is made from a wheelchair.

    I think there's a descriptive vs prescriptive confusion here, along with an implicit strawman. First there's the idea that describing observable reality, that the weak and ill-constituted shall perish, necessarily means demanding that the weak and ill-constituted should be forced to perish. None of the Nietzsche I've read seems to have that version of the idea lurking anywhere in the background, as it's taken as something that happens regardless, not something you would need to force. There's definitely no sense that you should concern yourself with dominating others, as Nietzsche's direct advice on the masses is mostly to avoid them, not waste your time trying to micromanage them.

    This is very common for Nietzsche as Nietzsche is opposed by the tarantulas who see religion and philosophy as ways to influence and control others, not descriptions of reality. Reading "kill the weak" into the prose is quite natural to them, as it simply never occurs to them that a spiritual text wouldn't be primarily interested in social control. For them it seems obvious that the only reason to say or write anything at all is to convince someone else to act in a desired direction.
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    >>25622555
    huh?
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    when you rich like this you dont check the forecast everyday its gonna rain
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    NEETcheesetrannies BTFO
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    >>25622587
    filtered
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    >>25622576
    Don't worry about it, just follow these steps;
    >Say yes to life
    >Fix your eyes on the horizon
    >Trust your instincts
    >Go under in pursuit of your one true way
    Optional;
    >Realize that in the end, you served the Ubermensch
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    >Schopenhauer was cooler.
    Am I filtered?
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    >>25620226
    I don't have to prove myself, but I want to.
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    >>25622643
    say yes to life and yes to religion you mean
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    >>25620474
    Sounds like a really retarded opinion. Do you dismiss calculus because Newton was a "non-sex-haver"? Do you dismiss AC because Tesla was a virgin? The list is literally endless. I'm aware that you are just baiting and trying to be edgy, but this makes no sense
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    >>25622643
    not filtered
    >>25622856
    filtered lol
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    >>25622643
    It seems like Nietzsche's notion of the genius -- the dynamite of the age -- is often overlooked by other anons in this thread. One could say that the idea of the Ubermensch is also tied to the coming of a new legendary figure and the age theretofore brought about, but I cannot remember any works in which he specifically said so.
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    >>25622880
    >theretofore
    kys
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    >>25622880
    oof
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    >>25622882
    You do it for me! What does not kill me makes me stronger! I am a GOD now hurry up with my damn croissants! In a French-ass restaurant!
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    >>25622888
    kek
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    >>25622880
    My feeling is that he expects the Ubermensch to always be lurking tantalizingly just over the horizon. Although you may see men who seem to exemplify him in a particular age, the creators of values, the men who become the temples that the tarantulas hang out in.
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    I can’t help but think what’s the point when Ai is here. Also Nietzsche was writing for the tiny minority of elites and capable people, not for you. Fascinating writer but he’s gonna bring most people to ruin I fear.
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    >>25622909
    Yes that's basically it. Since when did retards start to geek out over the word Ubermensch (or Nietzsche in general) so much as seen on this board
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    >>25620474
    he sacrificed himself to serve as a warning for capable, sensitive thinkers and artists. embrace life. seek god (purpose). the void is just a tool. identifying mental spooks is not the end goal.
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    >>25622959
    Cope
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    >>25622968
    that's just what nietzsche is about.
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    >>25622973
    At least you admitted it.
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    >>25620226
    Kierkegaard is a better advocate for the primacy of subjectivity without all the edgelord shit.
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    >>25620226
    >prove to the herd you belong in the herd
    How about no.
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    >>25620226
    I didn't read him.
    What now?
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    >>25623135
    ENPBP
    Eighty-ninth Post Best Post
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    >>25620346
    No ugly man gets women to fund him on this religious cringe maxxing journey, lil' bro.
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    >>25621386
    >suffering is the root of all greatness
    What nonsense. No, birth is the root of all greatness. Genetics, family. When have history's most famous men ever been tortured to the top? Instead, they're born in nobility, gifted, or at a time and place, when they were needed and valuable. All of it always luck, and never a commitment to torture. All torture does is to cripple.
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    >>25620505
    It's also very hypocritical to preach "anti-empathy"
    >we are not only going to not care about the weak and sick; we're going to kick them down and help them die
    when you know that you personally are always able to fall back on your family's support system, when push comes to shove
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    >>25620273
    >filtered by his own thread
    Pathetic.
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    >>25622307
    hey man ive read a few of his being pretending to be completely unrecognizable to yourself is a pathetic larp

    >>25622261
    yeah you did retard :D
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    >>25620226
    Niggers tongue my anus.
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    >>25620379
    I love how retarded the neo-pagans on 4chan are
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    >>25623309
    >It's also very hypocritical to preach "anti-empathy"
    "For in seeing the sufferer suffering—thereof was I ashamed on account of his shame; and in helping him, sorely did I wound his pride.
    Great obligations do not make grateful, but revengeful; and when a small kindness is not forgotten, it becometh a gnawing worm.
    <...>
    I, however, am a bestower: willingly do I bestow as friend to friends. Strangers, however, and the poor, may pluck for themselves the fruit from my tree: thus doth it cause less shame.
    Beggars, however, one should entirely do away with! Verily, it annoyeth one to give unto them, and it annoyeth one not to give unto them.
    And likewise sinners and bad consciences! Believe me, my friends: the sting of conscience teacheth one to sting."

    >when you know that you personally are always able to fall back on your family's support system
    "And not to him who is offensive to us are we most unfair, but to him who doth not concern us at all.
    If, however, thou hast a suffering friend, then be a resting-place for his suffering; like a hard bed, however, a camp-bed: thus wilt thou serve him best.
    And if a friend doeth thee wrong, then say: “I forgive thee what thou hast done unto me; that thou hast done it unto thyself, however—how could I forgive that!”
    Thus speaketh all great love: it surpasseth even forgiveness and pity."


    >>25620505
    >when Nietzsche himself was a fucking weakling who failed to pass on his genes
    "Art thou pure air and solitude and bread and medicine to thy friend? Many a one cannot loosen his own fetters, but is nevertheless his friend’s emancipator."
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    >>25623295
    >When have history's most famous men ever been tortured to the top?
    "A species arises, a type becomes established and strong, under the long struggle with essentially unchanging, unfavourable conditions. By contrast, we know from the experience of breeders that species which receive an ultra-abundant nourishment and, in general, an increase in protection and care immediately tend towards variety in the type in the strongest manner and are rich in wonders and monstrosities (as well as monstrous vices). Now, let’s look for a moment at an aristocratic commonwealth, for example, an ancient Greek polis [city state] or Venice, as an organization, whether voluntary or involuntary, for the purpose of *breeding*. There are men there living together who rely upon themselves and who want their species to succeed mainly because it *has to* succeed or run the fearful risk of being annihilated. <...> The most varied experience teaches them which characteristics they have to thank, above all, for the fact that they are still there, in spite of all the gods and men, that they have always been victorious. These characteristics they call virtues, and they cultivate only these virtues to any great extent. <...> Finally, however, at some point a fortunate time arises, which lets the immense tension ease. Perhaps there are no more enemies among the neighbours, and the means for living, even for enjoying life, are there in abundance. With one blow the bond and the compulsion of the old discipline are torn apart: that discipline no longer registers as necessary, as a condition of existence—if it wished to remain in existence, it could do so only as a form of *luxury*, as an archaic *taste*. Variation, whether as something abnormal (something higher, finer, rarer) or as degeneration and monstrosity, suddenly bursts onto the scene in the greatest abundance and splendour; the individual dares to be individual and stand out. <...> . This very morality was the one which built up such immense power, which bent the bow in such a threatening manner—now, at this moment, it has become “outdated.” The dangerous and disturbing point is reached where the greater, more multifaceted, and more comprehensive life lives over and above the old morality; the “individual” stands there, forced to give himself his own laws, his own arts and tricks for self-preservation, self-raising, self-redemption. <...> Once again there’s danger there, the mother of morality, great danger, this time transferred into the individual, <...> Only the mediocre have the prospect of succeeding, of reproducing themselves—they are the people of the future, the only survivors, “Be like them! Become mediocre!”—from now on that’s the only morality which still makes sense, which people still hear."
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    >>25620226
    Spent a week not uttering a word cause of this guy. There you go
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    Kek. I was prepared to accept my filtration, even humbly, but as I've garnered no brief recurring of the same comment I'll assume that I made it through, Thank um, err.. my Super Self!
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    >>25624440
    I hope you at least said Good Morning to your mother, anon. She's done so much for YOU
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    We must cultivate or virtues to escape the path of nihilism now that god is dead. And above everything else, we must not replace god with something else, because then it became god.
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    >>25624389
    >>25624410
    not gonna read all of this drivel
    get to the point or stfu
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    >>25620226
    Nietzsche did not filter me. I filtered Nietzsche.
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    >>25624464
    filtered
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    IM DANCING
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    >>25620226
    > prove you weren't filtered
    But I was filtered. I got 40 pages in, and it read like an angsty teenager deriding all the people whom he secretly admires, while at the same time doing exactly what they do.
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    >>25624974
    "Upbraid me not, ye beautiful dancers, when I chasten the little God somewhat! He will cry, certainly, and weep—but he is laughable even when weeping!
    And with tears in his eyes shall he ask you for a dance; and I myself will sing a song to his dance:
    A dance-song and satire on the spirit of gravity my supremest, powerfulest devil, who is said to be “lord of the world.”—
    And this is the song that Zarathustra sang when Cupid and the maidens danced together"
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    >>25620226
    In "Beyond Good and Evil" he claims an author's greatest fear is not to be misunderstood, but to be understood, which gives the game away that he actively avoided being comprehensible in his work.
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    >>25620226
    I haven't read him yet, therefore can not be filtered.
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    >>25625260
    nonsense
    he want to created a new language and, of course, when you do that you're not going to be intelligible
    he was not trying to obfuscate for the sake of obfuscation and seeming 2deep4you
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    >>25625260
    filtered
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    >>25625068
    Which book?
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    >>25625274
    >>25625293
    >He verbatim says he doesn't want to be understood
    >"He is just too deep"
    Pseuds
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    >>25620379
    >another episode of christard who wants to to larp anti semite while worshipping the king of israel
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    >>25620474
    nietzsche himself said nature doesn't select for intelligence lol. in fact, the geniuses of humanity are often stamped out before their beliefs can actually spread. the sheeple kill them or lock them up.
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    >>25620474
    >the one thing you're actually put on this earth to do is have sex
    Leave this board and never return.
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