Take the Islam pill, anon…>Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!... The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich.... Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more! The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility, was in its element there: the church knew only too well how the German nobility was to be won.... The German noble, always the “Swiss guard” of the church, always in the service of every bad instinct of the church—but well paid.... Consider the fact that it is precisely the aid of German swords and German blood and valour that has enabled the church to carry through its war to the death upon everything noble on earth! At this point a host of painful questions suggest themselves. The German nobility stands outside the history of the higher civilization: the reason is obvious.... Christianity, alcohol—the two great means of corruption.... Intrinsically there should be no more choice between Islam and Christianity than there is between an Arab and a Jew. The decision is already reached; nobody remains at liberty to choose here. Either a man is a Chandala or he is not.... “War to the knife with Rome! Peace and friendship with Islam!”: this was the feeling, this was the act, of that great free spirit, that genius among German emperors, Frederick II. What! must a German first be a genius, a free spirit, before he can feel decently? I can’t make out how a German could ever feel Christian....
NEIN
Is that young fucking Brahms? shit I'm high asf
Ironic that he's writing this while the healings at Lourdes are going on. God is literally demonstrating His Power in Nietzsche's lifetime, but Nietzsche is too blind to see it.
Abrahamism is a doomsday device developed by space aliens who are testing how to destroy a planetary civilization with as little effort as possible.Turns out all that is needed is a damned infernal book.
>>25619722Pretty close to what I've come across
>>25619722/thread
>>25619731>>25619726>>25619722Dumb hippies
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>>25619746ZAMN
>>25619736it makes a lot more sense than anything else
>>25619698tl;drVishnu is the thinking man's choice.
>>25619776>In the Jewish "Old Testament," the book of divine justice, there are men, things, and sayings on such an immense scale, that Greek and Indian literature has nothing to compare with it. One stands with fear and reverence before those stupendous remains of what man was formerly, and one has sad thoughts about old Asia and its little out-pushed peninsula Europe, which would like, by all means, to figure before Asia as the "Progress of Mankind." To be sure, he who is himself only a slender, tame house-animal, and knows only the wants of a house-animal (like our cultured people of today, including the Christians of "cultured" Christianity), need neither be amazed nor even sad amid those ruins—the taste for the Old Testament is a touchstone with respect to "great" and "small": perhaps he will find that the New Testament, the book of grace, still appeals more to his heart (there is much of the odour of the genuine, tender, stupid beadsman and petty soul in it). To have bound up this New Testament (a kind of ROCOCO of taste in every respect) along with the Old Testament into one book, as the "Bible," as "The Book in Itself," is perhaps the greatest audacity and "sin against the Spirit" which literary Europe has upon its conscience.
>>25619698Muslim societies are brown and retarded. The Spanish golden age started after they conquered Granada. This is what decolonialism looks like sweetie :)
>>25619698Gaza update?
>>25619776The whole point of Genesis 1 was to take all the spiritual agency from the natural world - the forests, dwellings, ancestral lands, and heavenly bodies - and place it in a singular monopolizing entity who is "all things to all things." The Sun and Moon became the "greater and lesser lights," lifeless constructs, as well as the Earth and animals. It's mechanistic materialism with God on top, with humans "spared" by the claim that only they have souls because only they are made in God's image "so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."This hierarchy was also present in Plato and Aristotle as the Great Chain of Being: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_beingSo the Greek philosophers had a major role in the fuckery as well. Fucking statue-worshiping, geometry-huffing, boy-fucking timeless dipshits. This metaphysical scheme was purified by Descartes who, big surprise, claimed that animals were literally soulless automatons. Secular modernity killed God but retained the idea that the universe is comprised of meaningless "stuff" instead of restoring spiritual agency to nature. Atheistic materialism is actually a branch of Greco-Christian brainrot. Concepts such as "natural resources" and "natural capital" are just modern forms of it.That this philosophy is profoundly evil and anti-life is shown undeniable in the world it has built: the entire world has become a massive corporate capitalist machine that turns life into dead toxic matter and consciousness into heat waste. Abrahamists worship the most evil demon ever made.
>>25619803Thriving. Kafir.
>The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!.What the fuck did he even know about Al-Andalus? Where did he get his info from?
>>25619698How one can come up with this interpretation as those inbred mongrels are being left behind in the dust by industrialization and modernity eludes me. He criticizes Christianity for being a soothing medicine against spiritual disorder and inner chaos but chooses to praise it's Abrahamic cousin for the pettiest reasons. He fails to distance himself far enough in order not to look like a contrarian retard every time he talks about islam.
>>25619722No its early attempts of the spirit clashing against the material world and our animalistic flesh.That is why we must look at history and dismiss the earlier Abrahmic religions as the backwards thought they are and embrace the newest one with the fewest contradictions Islam. Through the embrace of Islam will the spirit again class with the earth and our flesh to bring about an even higher form of spirit.
>>25619853He thinks Moorish Spain was Wakanda on earth. They even taught them Europeans how to use soap!
>>25619858it's just 19th century fedoraism honestly. His stuff is interesting but most of his takes on religion just read like the diary of some enlightened redditor or angsty middle-school metalhead.>>25619853>>25619865ain't it funny how people talk about how advanced Moorish Iberia was, and never any other part of the Moorish lands? I wonder why that is.
>>25619698>Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more!'MURRICA! Exactly. Europe welded back to Persia at a time of maximum ultimately Persian origin chivalry short circuits the defective millenarianisms manifesting in Gulf War Nth today, and the secular nihilistic internicine crashouts of the World Wars— European Man would have Islamified a moderate form across the world in a more comprehensive and enduring fashion than colonial imperial scrambling, and we'd have ascended up the Kardeshev scale on our way to conquer space without the Cold War's waste. All with monumental architecture worthy of the ancient 'world wonders' . . . or Nietzche would've settled for direct and pre-Mirandola & Co. recapture of canonical Hellenic texts centuries earlier to intellectual and technical acceleration gain in itself. Me, I'd have settled for Romans getting steam engines right.
>>25619804I disagreed with that guy that said "dumb hippies" but now I agree with him, great job.
>>25619898Stfu. The entire Middle East had it better than European lands.
‘converting’ religion is probably something that never should’ve happened in history. sort of like how the idea of ‘moving house’ didn’t exist in ancient history. what you’re born into is what you are.
>>25619804Christians aren't materialists, you're talking about deists.
>>25619858Those “inbred mongrels” are conquering Europe as we speak. Obviously Islam as a religion is complete bunk. As a system of conquest? It is without parallel.
>>25619698not a single muslim society is anything but shit and they're really managing to shit up european society too. they're just poop and you don't want that anywhere except the septic tank.
>>25620415They’re only here because of endless lobbying by jews. Almost every European country with thirdies is that way because jews subverted migration policies. On their own, muslims are a biomass that has no ambition beyond breeding and conflict, with no technology to do either efficiently.
>>25619698Would Nietzsche even be able to form and maintain an harem?
>>25620513>>25620415Arab armies have historically performed laughably poorly against western forces. Besides being ugly, stupid, loud, and stinky, they are also a very very weak people. But they're good at abusing women and throwing acid on them and stuff.
>>25619698>you have to choose between semite fairytale #1 and #2I choose to get rid of both of them
>>25620542You believe in the semitic fairytale of mereological nihilism + atheism.
>>25620513>muslims are a biomass that has no ambition beyond breedingWesterners aren't breeding. Arabs won, westrannies lost.>>25620532>But they're good at abusing women and throwing acid on them and stuff.Even now you defend your gynocentric feminist societies while you're awaiting your inevitable extinction lol.
>>25620532>they are also a very very weak peopleYou can’t say that when France is becoming Arab. If the Arabs are weak then the Europeans are worse than weak
>>25620563I'm areligious not an atheist, my beliefs about the nature of the world are simply superior to mutilating little boys and sucking on the bloody penis.
>>25620589>my beliefs about the nature of the world are simply superior to mutilating little boys and sucking on the bloody penis.Christianity is against circumcision, LARPer.
>>25620572Arabs aren’t breeding either. They were just behind like in all things. Many arab nations will have a tfr below replacement or are already settling on it. Nations that do breed like roaches like Palestine are currently getting dabbed on by kikes. I actually had sympathy for muslims in 2023-2024 but after seeing how you brownies behave I think we should all adopt the Israel strategy. It seems the only course of action that works with your kind.
>>25620599You seem to be operating under the assumption that religious nutjobs actually follow their dogmatic beliefs with any serious conviction instead of lying through their teeth and stealing, raping and killing their way to the top like all the other spawn of filth that try to peddle their lies as some absolute truth.
>>25620588What will Arabs do when they inherit a western country? Will it look like one of the countless muslim shitholes or will it magically work because of the soil o algo?
>>25620621Of course they do. That’s the whole point, they follow their teachings to the letter and chaos erupts.
>>25620620>some anons online pissed me off in an environment which breads unpleasant people and reinforcement loops so I concluded that mass genocide is actually pretty based
>>25620415Your definition of "conquering" is peculiar. I don't condone Europe's spiritual and demographical suicide and I think Nietzsche has a lot of valid and prescient criticisms regarding European civilization and progress. But this "conquest" of yours is nothing more than an osmotic process caused by the massive cultural and developmental gradient between the "invaded" and the "invaders", the latter of whom don't even agree on whether they should protest against it or not.
>>25620641It’s going to happen to you in Europe too and there’s nothing you can do about it.Umad shitskin? Kek, it’s about to make the holocaust look like a disney movie. Call your inbred cousins and say goodbye.
>>25620682You’re going to get slaughtered. Arabs do very well when pressed against the wall.
>>25620702Arabs get pressed against the wall. Splat. All you need is a bulldozer. You’re like roaches kek.
>>25620620>Arabs aren’t breeding either.Lmao seething.
>>25620621>>25620631Blah blah blah, pilpul.
>>25620641See, this is where Western societies in their ivory towers are making a mistake, based on hubris (lol). You cannot allow yourself to be on equal footing with third worlders. Theirs is the way of the savage, whether muslim or jeet or african.
>>25620735Gaza update?
>>25620739To expand on this, the gloating about conquest and the constant cries for sympathy from Western nations (for the poor poor muslims!) come from the same source. Thirdies know white people have a strong sense of empathy, which they view weakness and not a trait derived from being highly evolved , and they abuse it to the fullest.
>>25620745Lol poor ahmed, he won’t reply to this because he knows.
>>25620082>The entire Middle East had it better than European lands.yeah only the parts where the Arabs weren't the natives lol.
>>25620759>Thirdies know white people have a strong sense of empathy, which they view weakness and not a trait derived from being highly evolved , and they abuse it to the fullest.It is a fatal weakness and not a virtue in any sense. Weakness is not a virtue. How did this “highly evolved” empathy work out for the British or French, currently being replaced by Pakistanis and Arabs? Those latter cultures are ruthless and strong. Europeans are weak and they have the gall to proclaim their ineptitude a virtue
>>25620863it's a virtue to have empathy for your own people and related peoples. It's obviously a fucking mistake for to have empathy for inbreds from half the world away who hate everything about you.
1600s niggas>have a dozen kids without caring about anything who gives a shit about famine or disease god wills it anyway, willing to go stab the village heretic to death disregarding any chaos or blood feuds that comes from it if you die god will it>argue about god too much>turn continent into walking dead cause of it, farm burner enjoyer, the other religion group deserved it, rape the dead farmer daughter and convert her to your religion sect team to rack up your squad count in the PvP match god wantedmodern niggas>get a papercut>go on internet and rage about the archon demons that gave you the paper cut, god is a demon serpent lion, all religion is black saturn cube worship lore>have no kids and explain yourself you escape the matrix>have kids and mental breakdown you enlarged the matrix>afraid of someone threatening to hit you in publicwhat modernity kool aid does damn
Muslims when allowed to live in another country: >hahaha we will conquer the kaffir, your daughters will date muslim :)Muslims when ACK:>look at my dead larvae, israel is a babykiller wallah :(( pray for palestine, ummah is weak
>>25619698Dalrymple is always claiming that - ‘ The sufis are enlightened from smoking hash constantly’
Confirmed that this board is full of Islamophobic pseuds terrified of manly religion. All masters venerate Islam.
>>25619698>believe this sand nigger cult, not that one!Yeah, how about I do neither? What's with terminally online retards turning everything into false dichotomies?
>>25620911>no one says anything about gnosticism>christcuck just starts seething about it out of nowhere
>>25621408If islam js manly then why is every Muslim country in the cuck chair right now
>>25619698Nietzsche shills for Napoleon and Goethe, so he parrots what they squack.https://aeon.co/ideas/muhammad-an-anticlerical-hero-of-the-european-enlightenment"But it was Napoleon Bonaparte who took the Prophet most keenly to heart, styling himself a ‘new Muhammad’ after reading the French translation of the Quran that Claude-Étienne Savary produced in 1783. Savary wrote his translation in Egypt: there, surrounded by the music of the Arabic language, he sought to render into French the beauty of the Arabic text. Like Sale, Savary wrote a long introduction presenting Muhammad as a ‘great’ and ‘extraordinary’ man, a ‘genius’ on the battlefield, a man who knew how to inspire loyalty among his followers. Napoleon read this translation on the ship that took him to Egypt in 1798. Inspired by Savary’s portrait of the Prophet as a brilliant general and sage lawgiver, Napoleon sought to become a new Muhammad, and hoped that Cairo’s ulama (scholars) would accept him and his French soldiers as friends of Islam, come to liberate Egyptians from Ottoman tyranny. He even claimed that his own arrival in Egypt had been announced in the Quran.Napoleon had an idealised, bookish, Enlightenment vision of Islam as pure monotheism: indeed, the failure of his Egyptian expedition owed partly to his idea of Islam being quite different from the religion of Cairo’s ulama. Yet Napoleon was not alone in seeing himself as a new Muhammad: Goethe enthusiastically proclaimed that the emperor was the ‘Mahomet der Welt’ (Muhammad of the world), and the French author Victor Hugo portrayed him as a ‘Mahomet d’occident’ (Muhammad of the West). Napoleon himself, at the end of his life, exiled on Saint Helena and ruminating on his defeat, wrote about Muhammad and defended his legacy as a ‘great man who changed the course of history’. Napoleon’s Muhammad, conqueror and lawgiver, persuasive and charismatic, resembles Napoleon himself – but a Napoleon who was more successful, and certainly never exiled to a cold windswept island in the South Atlantic."
>>25621408Morocco's prime minister is a woman and she stands for women's rights.
>>25622145Projection, and even if you were right an irrelevant contest since we should only take what is pure and strong. But in reality Iran is humbling US more than any force in its history.
>>25622153Wow your really bro. We should all support women’s rights - the right of every women to share their husband with other women. But the West thinks itself to advanced for that.
>>25622154Those are shi’ites. I’m convinced you can hardly tell the difference between shia and sunni muslims, pseud.
>>25622161Shiah is Muslim sassy retard
>>25622169Well, most of the Muslim world would disagree. If most muslims are cucks while Israel continues its onslaught, doesn’t that prove my point?Picrel a prophetic Jew
>>25622222Dem quints lol
>>25622222Brutal
>>25620415>system of conquest Arabs are the weakest fighters in the world. Their militaries have gotten streamrolled by like 50 sunburnt Jews on allergy medication over and over again for decades. It's great and creating fanatical followers and giving them a religious "justification" for violence and deception
>>25622222>quintsWew
>>25622241Muslims are trained in martial arts and sports. You would never say it to a group of arabs what you are telling right here. This is your safe space.
>>25619698islam was fabricated by jew occupied babylon in 600 AD to subvert byzantine rome and persia.
the entire thread consists of 2-3 Jewish parasites samefagging and seething their forefathers were dragged into the Nazi soup-making factory, they wish if their ancylostomic ancestors had some balls and demonstrated a modicum of the resistance Palestinians are showing instead of meeting with posing cunts those who enabled them to reach their true forms as stinking piles of rotten flesh
>>25622426Ahmed please, everyone hates you now.
>>25622459my sweet jew, your race is the literal embodiment of Ahriman for the entire political spectrum, there has never been a time in modern history where people could openly support Hitlerites and get praised for it as much as now.
>>25622473You are brown
>>25622505true that! but who are those sleepy guys?
>>25622512Gaza update? What happened to the resistance?
>>25619698Too bad that Muslims today are all retards. The romanticized Arab of Nietzsche's time is long gone.
>>25622688If you are correct, then it is just as much the case that the Germans today are retards, as well as Latin peoples, as well as the Chinese - but these civilizations still have great points. Anyway, vulgar racism degrades yourself more than it does the alleged target (mirror of your inferiority).
>>25623538Yes to all of them, especially Germans and Chinese, and Nietzsche agreed with this even back then. People who aren't retards today are beyond race identity and are certainly beyond religious identity.
>>25623572Then we agree. Islam is still f***ing awesome
>>25619722Take your meds, schizo
>>25619698Tell me anon, does the islam permit eating pizza like this?
>>25622254Arabs are potentially the most unintimidating demographic maybe ever.
>>25622512>he actually is brownLMAO
>>25619698My food is better than Islam food, my clothes are better than Islam clothes, my books are better than Islam books, my music is better than Islam music. Go back to Arrakis and leave white people alone.
>>25624102You’re a sissy. But enjoy your harry potter and starbucks and goypop trash in the burbs. Real Kultur is superracial>>25624048Is this a pedo thing?
>>25623940was*
>look up arab country>it’s either aggressively posturing or getting bombed by people more advanced
>>25619797>says nothing of substance
>>25619698I actually did not know Nietzsche was this based. This is a penetrating historical awareness he is displaying with regards to Germans and the Church. I would nonetheless object that he's exaggerating the vitalism of Moorish civilization, and that Islam and Christianity share the same ascetic principle
>>25619698>Take the Islam pill, anonno.
>>25622145>right nowYou're displaying that all you read in order to make your post were some recent news headlines. Fucking kek. Unaware quasi-literate subhuman.
>>25619898>ain't it funny my retarded western brain knows only about the western-known oriental culture but not the unknown one? no i don't read a single word of arabic or persian. checkmate libtards, hell yeah!! *turns off the news channel to put on interracial porn*
>>25619698I think he still wouldn't approve of Islam for fairly obvious reasons. He's just reaching for the idealized example of scientific islam under the moors to explain how Christianity was destructive while leaving out the entire arab continent of obedience and wrath that existed as he wrote that. I don't think he really had the most indicative image of what Islam looked like even then, and the developments of wahhabism and reactionaryism in the religion have solidified it into the only Law for many>>25622426>>25622512this is just retarded
What from "Mohammedan civilization" have modern day Muslims actually inherited? They're as similar to them as modern Icelanders are to Vikings. Not at all. Just historical LARPing. The point Nietzsche's making in that passage is even just that, that the actually good things about that civilization are gone.
>>25619804You remind me of a certain retarded vegan anti-semite jew nazi on twitter
