How good are the later Harry Potter books really? In terms of prose and worldbuilding.I know that the early books are comfy and whimsical children's books (or supposedly so, I have never read them) but what about the ones that are aimed at the older reader as they grew?
>>25587583Don’t expect much in way of prose. I’m sure the worldbuilding is pretty solid though.
>>25587583They get more serious, the plots get more elaborate (but still full of holes), there's more drama and enotional complexity. There's more world-buildong but nothing that holds up under any scrutiny.
Rancid dogshit by an author who got too big too fast and started to believe she was some queen of literature and above editing or critique
>>25587596Solid is the one thing HP world building is definitely NOT.Creative, fanciful, funny, and elaborate? Sure. But it's not solid.
>>25587583>How good are the later Harry Potter books really?Not good. But there's a solution for that issue.
J.K. Rowling is pretty good at world building and for the most part I think the plot is mostly Ok. The personal relationships between characters could stand to be improved.
>>25587606>>25587601Can someone post an example of where the system crumbles?
>>25587613I'm just here to yearn.
>>25587596>the worldbuilding is pretty solidSo solid that it has generated millions of fanfics in an effort to fix the most glaring holes.
>>255875831. A lesser Roal Dahl. Serviceable but unremarkable2. Worst one by far. Boring and meandering even by children book standards3. Grossly overrated, but lose all the quiddich stuff and it's at least an improvement4. Starts the page crawl, but picks up the pace. It's alright. Also no quiddich5. Best one by far. Has actually some insight into teenage angst and it's the only one where the usual mystery gimmick has a satisfying end6. A step back to be sure, but has great passages about grief that are a highlight of the whole series. Second best7. Second worst one. Nothing redeemable about it>proseUnremarkable across the board but also inoffensive>worldbuildingwho cares?
>>25587668I wanna see Luna's glaring hole
>>25587606>>25587668Yeah. I don’t know what I meant there. it’s been over 20 years since I read them and I was like 12 so forgive the retardation.
>>25587625One that pops to mind is how they spend a huge chunk of the last book looking for ways to destroy the mcguffins with the magic sword and the monster poison cited as the only way to do so, only to find out that there is actually a fire spell that does just that easily and a low level malfoy goon is the one to cast it of all people and apparently hermione knew it. Why the fuck didn't you use it earlier with the other items you bitch?
>>25587625Dragons? Various other magical plants and creatures in the entire series that just conveniently stay concealed from muggles. Basically the entire central conceit of the "wizarding community" living in secret alongside muggles is just impossible to maintain.Various spells and magical functions like only being used when it's convenient for the story and ignored when it's not, like Time Turners.The entire plot of Goblet of Fire.
Bad. They're bad books for dumb people.
Harry Potter lacks important female characters Malfoid fixes that a bit
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>>25587684>3. Grossly overratedI think the movie version boosts the reputation of this one. And the time travel gimmick is well-executed (even if it is retarded from a world-building perspective)>>25587694I knew what you meant, I think, I'm just a pedant nitpicking the choice of words.
How does Harry Potter compare to The Worst Witch?
>>25587836I recently reread the book and the movie basically changed all the characters for the worse and lost a lot of the atmosphere in the book.>>25587583I lost all interest after book five, which is frustrating but quite good. Although I was close to the character ages when I read the last two books, I found the romantic subplots in HBP incredibly annoying and DH too was in desperate need of editing. What do you mean introducing the title artefacts out of nowhere when you already have horcruxes? Absolute bullshit.
>>25587878>I recently reread the book and the movie basically changed all the characters for the worse and lost a lot of the atmosphere in the book.Yeah but critic-types still sucked off the movie a lot, in contrast to the first two movies, and it does have a pretty good dramatic payoff at the end.
>>25587878To put it another way, the Azkaban movie has a reputation of being "the good one" while the rest are just kinda decent blockbuster stuff. Not because it's accurate to the book, but because it actually works well as a movie. So I think this attitude bleeds back into the book conversations somewhat.
>Romance for womenSo this vampire GOD millionaire and this other werewolf GOD Gazillionaire are fighting over me and I have lots of sex>Romance for menGrow up all your life with an annoying girl that picks on you but eventually you both begin to slowly see the good parts of each other and fall in love, after countless battles and struggles side by side you get married and have a happy family, the end.
>>25587583I loved Order of the Phoenix but hated Half-Blood Prince so much I never read the last one. In retrospect I'm pretty sure it's because I "aged out" between those two.
>>25587963Sex with Rin
>>25587583HP books are amazing when you're aging with them. They're pretty mediocre otherwise
>>25587613That's the first ai image I've seen where Harry has actual green eyes
The Half Blood Prince was by far the best of all. Good pacing, interesting characters outside of 'whimsy and quirky' creatures and Hermione being the most dull female charachter ever. Just constantly on mood swings and serving as a walking Wikipedia for plot convenience. Phoenix was a dull, sloth crawl. The first 4 have good energy and interesting dynamic mystery (generally). Rowling was terrible at writing action scenes. The flash backs in HBP provide interesting character lore that serves the plot.
>>25587583They're pretty simple. It's clear she (and her ghost writers) had no plan and was just making up shit for each individual book. There's lots of retcons and plot holes.
Plot holes is the least interesting criticism ever especially in a children's series about wizardry. Honestly if that's your go to barb against fucking Harry Potter, you're just a shit reader in general.That's not to elevate the series. I grew up with them and even I felt it was both straining against its premise and yet not really rising above it. Chiefly it both depends on and is limited by its need to stay isolated from the "real world" so we never quite get the sense of how the stakes and consequences of their actions affect them. But fine, it's a kids book. In the realm of mania books, there're lot worse than Harry Potter.What is done well is the characterization. Most of them may be archetypes, but they're clearly defined and understandable as people. This especially becomes notable with book 4, where the disguising of the conspiracy works because of the facade of Moody being this gruff battle scarred hardliner. It's when Harry has such personalities to rub off that the books really work imo. Dumbledore being the main example. It's when he's by himself that the plot needs to take flights of fancy and convience, like the contrivances around the hallows in the last book.
>>25587789I mean it's got Hermione and Luna.
First ones are the best if you are a children and your parents read them to you. The older you get the worst they get
>>25587715This is a good example.>>25587782This is not. You are gay and autistic, although I would've preferred to read about a world where wizards/witches and muggles are segregated but aware of each other.
>>25587583THEY BECOME THEMATICALLY DARKIER AND SCARIER THE FURTHER YOU PROGRESSTHE SOLVING OF THESE ISSUES AS YOU NIGH THE END IS LITERARILY SATISFYING, HOWEVER
>>25587583seeing rightoids get one shot by ai genderbent CP and going "I need to read baby books" might genuinely be the most pathetic thing we have got to in the history of online culture
>>25587963The true male equivalent of those depraved erotica books is shit like Mushoku Tensei.
>>25592055They'd lose their minds if they knew 13yr old girls have been drawing and writing about genderbent HP characters, including Malfoy, since the mid 2000s. They're making all this noise over basic fandom slop.
>>25587583I loved the first four when I was a kid, they were imaginative and had this whimsy and a sense of wonder. Starting with book five, it turned into a teen YA series with more "mature" tone, I guess. I think the trick was that the series matured with its readers but I was binge reading them at ten years old, it was quite a tonal whiplash for me to go from a silly tale about wizards in a weird castle to whatever happened in later books.
>>25590037>(and her ghost writers)Yeah, you can tell 3 onward had ghost writers. 1 and 2 are mostly complete dogshit, so I'd say its fair to say she wrote them. 3 feels half written by her and 4-7 she wasn't even involved beyond being an ideas guy. I don't see many people talking about or acknowledging it though.
>>25587625Everywhere. The wizards world makes no sense, she didn't have enough creative capacity to come up with something otherworldly enough but still believable
I'm curious as to why don't wizards in HP live like literal godkings over the muggles. The secrecy thing is a joke.
>>25592191Probably because "I can tell" isn't really great evidence
>>25587583I think in general the books get worse as they go on. Part it is the characters and readers outgrowing Rowling's writing ability. Like, if you're writing a book about 11yos for 11yos, not everything really has to be that well written. But the books turn into YA (or just A for some people) and now her shit makes less sense. I also got the impression that as she got more successful the editors really took a hands-off approach, so the actual technical level of the prose gets worse. Worse phrasing, mistakes, obvious plot holes, reused sentences just a few chapters apart, that kind of thing. I can't remember which book it was but I thought I was going nuts with dejavu, and then I realized she'd repeated the same fucking description for a character's actions several times.
>>25587583Order of the Phoenix is the best entry in the series & its not even close.You must understand, unlike the first 3.5 installments, the purpose of the later books is not primarily to worldbuild, but to demonstrate how Voldemort's resurrection corrupts & defiles the fabric of reality of every aspect of the comfy and whimsical children's world established by the early novels; its your standard Songs Of Innocence versus Songs Of Experience diptych
>>25587836The movie version of 3 is terrible. Takes out almost all the good parts of the book, changes so much for the worse, and is just a jumbled mess of scenes because so much information is missing. The book is great, though.
>>25594115imagine the kind of subhuman who typed this, failed to solve the captcha a few times, then posted it
>>25587782As far as I recall, no effort is ever made to explain why wizards live secretly.
Lmao.
>>25592055>>25592082Pretty funny, but still not quite as funny as the time that dorky adults tried to get into Lazytown brony-style because of the "We Are Number One" song becoming a meme. Malfoid is still a lame and stupid meme though
>>25592191it's cause the books aren't good anyway. it'd be like complaining about the later Goosebumps books being ghost written
I wouldn't really want to be the guy with a mutilated crotch countersignaling some funny haha Internet fad and talk about it on youtube for an hour and a half. That would look pretty ridiculous on my part.
>>25587583The plots get even stupider due to the world building. Most of the things Voldemort does make no sense even by his nature as an OCD serial killer/cult leader. Snape never having anyone actually out him as a double agent is ridiculous and the roundabout way rowling tries to pretend the other death eaters accept that shit requires them all to pretend to ignore obvious traitorous behavior. Really most of the writing only makes sense if you're a woman because Voldemort is extremely feminine in how he acts and his overall thought process. Bitch doesn't understand hierarchy or the way that a top down organization keeps their soldiers in line at all so it all comes off as a sort of clubhouse for old cunts.Harry himself does not feel like a teenage boy at most points, her characterization is of some kind of prop that she is trying to make you believe has a personality. Harry doesn't really have goals throughout besides a generic chekclist of "play quidditch" and "talk to generic love interest at this moment" until something happens. World building itself is mostly fine but you constantly have problems due to her magic system having no defined limits or having limits defined out of convenience to the author at that moment. It's all ephemeral so she doesn't have to do any mental work of keeping things straight as the story goes on. So many times you'll see a spell and the implications of it go far beyond the current moment, the three unforgiveable curses are incredibly stupid outside of the death one considering that the good guys could win by imperiusing every single bad guy they encounter and never having any real trouble, finding out you can transfigure people really brings up a lot of problems about Voldy's secret society, are the aurors all fucking stupid?Best thing to do, turn your brain off or read another series.
>>25587583Book 3 introduces literal time travel, as a big hint that consistent worldbuilding was not a focus of the series.
what really annoys me about the books is how much rowling describes characters blushing whenever they are embarassed. so, so many times you read about how a character's cheeks "turned a shade of scarlet" or something and it just feels so unbelievable....most people do not actually physically blush when slightly embarrassed or nervous.
>>25587583I would say the writing style works a lot better in the first 3-4 books because they are children's books trying to be children's books, but the later volumes try and fail to become at least "young adult" books. Honestly I would say the quality of the films and books is pretty commensurate. The better the book, the better the movie and vice versa. The books start getting more and more contrived and less whimsical and the movies follow suit.
>>25595737Lmao. They're white. White people go red when they're excited, embarrassed or angry
>>25587613These rewrites will get abandoned when the views dry up won't they?
>>25587963>stories for women a masturbatory self indulgence>stories for men are a progression of cause and effect
>>25592082>nooooo you can't enjoy old things you have to consoooome new things and keep the consumerist wheel turningdon't you ever get tired?
>>25592651They all job to guns and mustard gas.
>>25595237>liberal discovers gatekeeping for the first timeoh the irony
>>25587596the worlds building is stupid.her writing is shit.she took standard magic bildingsroman, added "BLIMEY" and "BRILLIANT", grabbed basic shit from everywhere, dusted it lightly with racist tropes, and then went deep into overdrive on the "harry is a good sacrifice boy"a lot of those are no brainers, structurewise, and the cheap ass "DIAGONALLY" jokes worked to get normies into the fantasy door.but shes not good. shes a good rag and bone man.
>>25595649If you watch the movies snape just seems evil. Don't know how anyone could miss that.
>>25596179Thats why hermione never blushes.
>>25596227So whats the better wizard school series?
>>25596233>wizard school serieswell theres your problem, pal
>>25596230Anal?
>>25596224your shitpost has no content
>>25596233Theres Little Witch Academia but its just a comic and cartoon, no light novels iirc
>>25596238If we're going that route witch craft works is already better.
>>25596237neither does yours
>>25596248no u
>>25596230Huh?
>>25595237>Woman bitchingIt's popular because it's not self insert smut for women. Duh
>>25596227Hows your transition going?
>>25596227>magic bildingsroman>BLIMEY>BRILLIANTwhat are you trying to say?
>>25587625The explanation for why Harry survived the killing curse is total bullshit. Why had this never happened in Voldemort's history of killing people? Are you really telling me that no one before Lily ever loved or sacrificed themselves for someone before?
>>25596286wizard "people" amarite?
>>25596286Don't worry, Malfoid's and Harry's love bounces Voldemort's killing curse and the ricochet slays him. The curse even laughs and says "maidenless"
>>25592043>This is not. You are gay and autisticIf you're looking for substantial replies, don't ask to be spoonfed basic shit, retard. Do your homework and ask better questions. The examples are all valid and presented without critical bias.
>>25596286>The explanation for why Harry survived the killing curse is total bullshit. Why had this never happened in Voldemort's history of killing people? Are you really telling me that no one before Lily ever loved or sacrificed themselves for someone before?He doesn't usually kill the mother at the same time as their child is why. He also doesn't exclusively focus on kiling children, usually he wants them to grow up under his thumb with some brainwashing. Harry Potter is poorly written but to miss the obviously written explanation for why it was different implies a lack of reading comprehension. It's a chidlrens book so you should be pretty concerned that you cannot parse it.
>>25597123That's what I was saying. The inability to properly criticize fucking Harry Potter really puts a spotlight on how utterly illiterate /lit/ really is. Without the prophecy device, nothing about the setup even makes sense, Voldy would've just sent his goons to kill the Potters like they did the other families.
>>25590037>It's clear she (and her ghost writers) had no plan and was just making up shitHP lore consisted of stuffs she made up on spot in Twitter and Pottermore
>>25597129I can properly criticize you for saying that you colossal flog
>>25587583Read the Chrestomanci by Diana Wynne Jones instead. You'll get everything HP fans have gaslight themselves into thinking they were reading.
>>25597233Her names are so racist they're hilarious. No checking early life with that one, what are your bets that after Hogwarts he joined Gringotts?
>>25597271>names are so racist they're hilariousThose are the best kind. My alt on one MMO was Shekelfist Goyimsbane.
>>25587583They're books for children. The original appeal of Harry Potter was that kids would literally grow up with it.Still love Malfoid though. She's so fucking cute.
>It's for le kidsNot an argument, so is Alice in Wonderland which also includes entertainment for adults with it's play on quaternions and modulo arithmetic.
>>25597337little girls appeal to all ages
>>25587583I remember finding the last book difficult to follow when I was younger because characters kept getting killed off-screen with very little ceremony. When Harry got the phantasms of his parents, Sirius, and Lupin to appear, my first thought was "how and when the fuck did Lupin die? What?"The only really compelling part of the series to me was the department of mysteries sequence in five, it's the only time Rowling left something to the reader's imagination, and the only aspect that truly felt magical.
It just occurred to me that the harry potter uniforms are pretty fucking hot
>>25591675Luna only shows up for the first time in book 5 IIRC.
>>25597271>Ching chong, asian, demure, good at maths, in the nerd houseIt's so fucking funny
Bros I'm startng to think about malfoid a bit too muchI can't believe genderbending could create waifus of this caliber
>>25597337It's not a good children's book either.
>>25594999she lampshades it in book one iirc>"blimey arry if the muggles knew about us we'd have to go around curing kids with leukemia and solving world hunger and we'd much rather just sit on our arses all day while our magic slaves serve our every whim"
>>25587583Order Of The Phoenix is THE bildungsromanAmazing worldbuilding, and true character growth you hardly ever see even in an upmarket novel.Harry's first chapter is him listening to the news itching to fight the war and get his hands on Voldemort's throat with no thought as to the possibility of himself dying. Harry's last chapter is him understanding the true cost of war in a very personal and tragic way, understanding that his own life will probably be lost, and yet willingly accepting the sacrifice all the same in order to defeat evil. True maturity.
>>25597379>>25597271You're idiots.I'm ethnic chinese and I didn't find Cho Chang racist, it is what it is. There is an actor some of you will have seen before named Chang Chen. Ever watched Kungfu Hustle? The cast includes guys named Chi Chung and Kwok Kwan. Xmen had an actress named Bingbing. Chinese people like alliteration and assonance in names.The only people actually making those objections are westernised American-born chinese who probably don't speak anything other than English themselves.
>>25599078You're Chinese
>>25599078Buddy it's racist because she's racist. From and english standpoint her names are racist because she wrote from the perspective of someone who knew very little about your culture. The point isn't that the name is feasible but about her underlying nature as a person. If it were only one single name "Cho Chang" it would be one thing but when your jeiwsh wizard name is "jewish stereotype" then we can make certain assumptions about hte rest of her naming schemes. That isn't to say anyone here is taking offense she is to be congratulated on having a celebrated worldwide series while doing it. Her writing is shit though.
>>25597233Ok this is clearly a joke, responding to a joke. Holy shit you people are clueless.
>>25597854Isn't this argument made for every technology? We have to halt this good thing because it could cause more bad?
I just finished the VN Look At Me, Harry Potter. I rarely played VNs and never liked one. I don't like Harry Potter. The art is all AI generated. This goes against all my principles. And yet I haven't been invested in something to this degree in forever. I had forgotten how it feels. I want this romance injected into my veins. God I fucking love her. I can't believe Rowling got this close and missed the mark, and it took so long for the fans to get there.
>>25599645>I rarely played VNs and never liked one.> I don't like Harry Potter. >The art is all AI generated. This goes against all my principles>I can't believe Rowling missed the mark to write such cringe fanfic-shituh huh, sure
>>25587583After reading The Lord of the Rings, I tried HP and right off the bat I realized that I am not the right audience for these books, I am legit too old for them.
>>25599797I believe him. I'm in the same boat. Though not vns.
>>25587596>the worldbuilding is pretty solidEntire race of intelligent slaves, happy being slaves and serving their bettersTeenagers can make 'love' potions (date-rape drugs)Hook-nosed greedy race with claws controls the banksMemory-wiping exists, except it only removes bad memories (so every memory Hermoine's parents had of her was bad?)America practises Muggle/Wizard segregation so no half-bloods - but this has literally zero effect on wizard populationMinistry of Magic Wizards are so inept at magic that they purchase 500 Shielding hats from Fred and George Weasley (who are like 17 at the time)Time Turners exist, but they're only used so a teenage girl can age at 3x the normal speed in order to GPA-grindCentaurs abducted and gang-raped Umbridge and no one cares
>>25599826Yeah. I suspect it’s nearly impossible to really enjoy it after the age of 20 - unless, perhaps, you’re reading it to your own child in voices.Most HP fans discovered the books in childhood, became devoted followers, and now experience a persistent, ongoing sense of nostalgia in various forms.
>>25599953>Memory-wiping exists, except it only removes bad memories (so every memory Hermoine's parents had of her was bad?)What? Obliviate is never really fleshed out, it doesn't just remove bad memories, it seems to be that the wizard can be selective but is never really explained how. Where did you get the bad memories addition?>America practises Muggle/Wizard segregation so no half-bloods - but this has literally zero effect on wizard populationI don't remember where the dumb bitch said it but she implied that mating with muggles/half bloods actually does move wizards towards not having magic, making Voldemort and the supremacists essentially correct but only a long timeline.>Ministry of Magic Wizards are so inept at magic that they purchase 500 Shielding hats from Fred and George Weasley (who are like 17 at the time)This makes some sense only aurors were hired for their combat ability everyone else is bureaucracy.Time Turners exist, but they're only used so a teenage girl can age at 3x the normal speed in order to GPA-grindTime-Turners were 100% her trying to make a cool plot twist for the end of the third book and just never wanting to deal with that shit again. See also Polyjuice potion being used extremely sparingly as it breaks the whole wizard war apart since you can just capture someone and asssassinate your enemies without them even realizing weird that during the 5th year this didn't happen a lot more since they were doing stealth as a theme that year.Centaurs abducted and gang-raped Umbridge and no one caresI mean it's what Centaurs are known for, gonna assume they just obliviated her afterwards since it was entirely her fault.
>>25599797>cringe fanfic-shitshut the fuck up you philistine!
I'm now playing Villainess Lady Malfoy
>>25600101I’ve always thought Rowling’s writing was just mediocre at best, but compared to all the garbage I’ve read about Malfoid over the past week (fanfics, VN, theories), she suddenly looks like the pinnacle of literary talent.
>>25599510how is "Anthony Goldstein" a Jewish stereotype? the dude is a throwaway name drop. it's fans who made him Jewish because Goldstein is a Jewish name. if you call that "racist", that's like saying it's racist to assume that Cho Chang is ethnic chinese. inb4 turns out she was a paki all along!>>25599953>I hate HP because of these shitty fanfictions
>>25600120>how is "Anthony Goldstein" a Jewish stereotype?Goldstein is not even a classic biblical one - it's literally means "golden stones." You might as well have gone all the way and named the character "gold-coin usurer" or "circumcised banker.".
OK, so the Malfoid trend has lasted for a couple of weeks so far. It slowed down a bit but there are tons of new fanart (non-slop) being made still.Where the FUCK are the rewrites? Any actual ones where it genuinely changes the story instead of nothing almost changing?
>>25600200Read the visual novels I mentioned. They seem to be all Korean but translated in English. They don't cover the whole book but rewrite the pivotal moments.I kissed her!
>>25600225>the visual novels I mentionedWhich ones specifically? Are they all on itch io website? I do hope that they're good since the art is slop generated, I'll make an exception for this.
>>25600200I’ve seen a few rewrites, but the quality is poor. Some of it looks like AI slop.Professional artists jump on trends to boost their accounts, but that’s not possible with fanfiction - there’s nothing to monetize or sell as commissions. And let’s be honest: most HP fanfic writers whose work is actually readable are either women, or guys who write porn, harem stories, or isekai. I'm afraid even if they did write about a Malfoid, it’s unlikely to be the kind of "convenient" tsundere trad-waifu you’re looking for.
>>25600238I hate sloppa and it can be jarring at times but considering how fast these were made and how big they are I can pull through itthere are fucking minigames too, I keep fucking losing the Snitch to her
>>25600200>>25600262There's one guy on xitter doing some shorts about it and I really like his ideas for the story. It's a shame he isn't interested in doing a rewrite.I'm also pretty sure that he's either posting here or is stealing from here.
>>25599078>Blah blahI'm racist. Asians names sound like "bang ding ow" which is mad funny. Stereotypes are mad funny. That's it
>>25600262The majority of fanfics under the "female draco" tag (since Malfoid took off a month ago) on Ao3 have been very clearly written by men, non-smut, either attempt to copy jkr's or write it in a way where it's believably in-universe and portray Malfoid as Malfoid, to varying degrees.The anime formatted stories and characters are far and few between. I have only seen a few "b-baka, it's not like I like you" fanfics. They're utter shit. Fucking awful to read.There's also a half dozen authors attempting a rewrite, to varying degrees of quality.A lot of the fics revolve around certain brainstormed events and how they'd evolve. It's very charming.
>>25600225>Visual novelsI'd imagine they'd be utter fucking weeb shit that'd appeal to weebs
Someone explain the female Malfoy meme to me. Is this some social media thing? Started seeing on 4chan a couple weeks ago.
>>25600453A confluence of factors.>Artist on bluesky has to flee bluesky after insisting Malfoid is a biological woman and not a tranny>Korean makes striking bits of fanart for a Korean Malfoid fanfic that's been around for a while (that one really is smut though)>Chuds notice that it fixes Ginny non-romance and the ending at the same time>Coin "Malfoid" to make everyone even more pissed>Yearning intensifiesThat's basically it. Now it just has a bunch of fans and a collection of writers on the sprint of their lives.
>>25596224>>25596269
>>25600516>buscar comentario what's with all the snake people language shit everywhere anon
>>25587715you mean fiendfyre? The dark magic thats very hard to control and when Crabbe uses it it goes out of control and kills him?
>>25600366>The majority of fanfics under the "female draco" tag (since Malfoid took off a month ago) on Ao3 have been very clearly written by men, non-smut, either attempt to copy jkr's Well, yes- most of the men under this tag have been active since October 2026 . They are clearly absolute beginners, and their level of writing is truly dismal. A lot of it is even AI-generated.I was referring to more experienced authors - like those artist at X - people who actually have skill, whose work is at least somewhat interesting to read, and who don’t just rely on the standard clichés lifted straight out of anime or amateur, school-level fanfiction. These who already crafted their own style, rather than just coping J.K. Rowling or someone else. My expectations aren’t particularly high, but I’ve still been left disappointed. Perhaps it’s because I’m also involved in other fandoms, where the contrast is quite striking.
>>25600602Yeah you talk like a cunt anon. A lot of the stuff on Ao3 is good and some stories on twatter are good. Dunno why you're talking like a fag whose arsehole whistles when he walks
>>25600366Lol. I just noticed that the most popular Malfoid "fanfic" is just a poorly "rewrited" (copied) version of the original.Like how is it counted as fanfic? Literally just paragraphs ripped straight from Rowling’s. And the new, fan "additions" don’t even fit the style or the characters at all. 3K likes, 1K comments. It's so bad. We’re doomed.
>>25600637Which one?
>>25600628Let me guess, you posted your own crap on AO3, didn’t you? Care to share those so called "good Malfoid stories"?
>>25600640"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Tsundere "Though, what did I expect, given a title like that
>>25600643Weird, I heard he's adding OCs as a lesbian couple but he's ripping whole paragraphs from the books?The fuck he's doing? Is he trying to be accurate or not?
>>25600637>Like how is it counted as fanficSucks to suck bro, it's transformative or some shit>And the new, fan "additions" don’t even fit the style or the characters at all.Fucking crazy you say that when another anon was waxing poetical about developing your own style.>And the new, fan "additions" don’t even fit the style or the characters at all.Are you talking about the chuddy dude who's been slipping in chud stuff? It's fucking gay
>>25600641Lmao not a chance. That anon presented his opinions like they were facts and he's the final authority. So I'm gonna call him a cunt and a fag whose arsehole whistles when he walks
>>25600643Yeah I'll be honest with you, I haven't and will never read that. That's anime cringe shit
>>25600646You can go ahead and suffer through reading it yourself.I don’t understand why such "writers" just copy entire chapters, when they only end up changing a couple of sentences. They could have just provided a brief summary instead. Though, I suspect they simply don’t know how to write and are using this method to mask it.
>>25600657>>25600646>>25600643>>25600637This is the funniest deep dive I've done yet>streams himself writing it to combat AI claims>changes entire chapters and plugs in fresh content>does half chapters or '.5' chapters to show they are completely original slot-ins>wrote in a pair of lesbians to act as a foil for the yule ball, then wrote an entirely different take on the ball itself as well as writing a song for it>AO3 page is bursting with good reviews>he's made all the teachers secretly Vietnam War veterans>doing it purely for the love of the game and doesn't have a patreonI'm not gonna lie Anon, you may actually be the gay faggot retard here.
>>25600712Is it good though?
>>25600713I thought it was, he fluffs up a lot of the background that was left in the dark. My favorite by far is the test-broom thing he had harry and malfoid have a little date in, and he just remembers a lot of little things, like malfoid painting hedwig's nails for fun.
>>25600712Is it actually any good? I haven't read it, I saw tsundere and bailed. Anime = shit but I might've shot myself in the foot assuming that
>>25600712I thought the lesbian shit sounded lame until I actually read it. I get it what he was doing now.
>>25600713Well, I would say it's the one who has the most effort put into it. I've read shorts that do what he does better, but then again, these are only shorts and not a full rewrite.
>>25600717It's a meme done just for the fun of alliteration, he said so on a stream.
>>25600713Not really.People started an arms race to see which one can do it first. Everyone's just writing, they're not taking their time to think things through.
>>25600724I don't believe you are correct. The yule ball scene in the sorcerer's tsundere was extremely thought out in its execution, and browsing the comments he is invoking emotional responses in people. He also re-writes the broom scenes and they feel properly fast.
>>25600724>Quibbling this badYou are a gay faggot retard
>>25600728>The guy who's winning the arms race of the trend that started two weeks ago and is on his way to finish the rewrite of 8 books in less time than that is actually taking his time to think things true, you are not correct!Ok.
>>25600733That guy has already said he's trying to stick to the core of the original plot, the first three books were not much to change, it's known and obvious. As much as you want to stay mad, I watched him a few days ago, he was streaming for 10 hours and wrote every word himself and it was better than 90% of the slop on AO3. Stay mad nigger faggot I guess.
>>25600733>finish the rewrite of 8 booksAnon, have you actually read the books? They're not overly complex. And there's only seven of them
>>25600743>>25600733>local anon stunned by simplicity of 1990s child literature
>>25600741>>25600732>>25600728>>25600743>>25600747You just know.
>>25600747>>25600753>Getting blown the fuck out this badWooooooaaaaaaahhhh buddy!He's gay!He's a nigger!He's a retard!Mald more I guess
>>25600753It is quite peculiar...
>>25600756To think that that's what you thought I meant at first is even funnier
>>25587583the first 3 books are the worst, if you ask me. The later ones are only better because there is actual drama in them. World is an extra-large pizza: super wide, half an inch thick.
>>25600759It happens but what can you do? It is what it is
>>25600756Christ, way to out yourself.
>>25600177It could have been a non-Jewish student, is my point, idiot.
>>25600369If you mean "uwah tsundere uguu potter-kun" they're not that level of weebshit>>25600349>bang ding owKek I remember that one
>>25601033
SMUTTIFY!
>>25587583>In terms of proseSanderson tier -1>worldbuildingSanderson tier -20. It's just asthetics from the movies, the "lore" is paper thin.
That's it. I need to write my own pale tsundere princess love story. It's the only way I can escape this weird infatuation I with cheesy fanfiction.
>>25600602>I was referring to more experienced authors - like those artist at X - people who actually have skill, whose work is at least somewhat interesting to read, and who don’t just rely on the standard clichés lifted straight out of anime or amateur, school-level fanfiction. These who already crafted their own style, rather than just coping J.K. Rowling or someone else.Any specific criticism, or is that other anon correct about you just being a fag with a whistling asshole?
>>25600516holy hell what a bunch of freaks people live like this?
>>25600637Isn't this exactly what people were asking for? No new scenes just straight up malfoy replaced with malfoid. Don't know why this is a dig.
>>25601591He is a doomer, ignore him.
>>25600516This is why Islam will win in the end.
Why do we live in a reality where a man's fantasies can conceive romance that simply isn't possible in the mortal world? Why were we given the ability to dream of things that we can't reach? Why give us so cruelly a glimpse of divine perfection? Isn't this a fault in our blood, something abnormal which wasn't meant to be and ruined us all forever? Was it given to us specifically because we are unworthy, to show us how we inevitably squander what little divinity we're given, and as such given to us for the sake of punishment? Is it simply a mistake of nature, which left us to dream of ever higher peaks to climb and more ineffable beauty to reach, a toil that will never end and will always leave us hungering, a mere delusion of a higher purpose we will never be truly aware of? Wouldn't it have been better for man's heart to be that of a mere animal, one whose thoughts never stirred above the dust upon which its paws stood, one whose eyes never looked up above toward the stars, never to wonder, never to dream?What am I being punished for? Why are the Gods so wroth at me? I hold my hands out like a beggar, and the Gods pour endless sand through my fingers; they show me promises through my eyes, and with my eyes still shut after a dream I know is over, I keep clutching at the endless torment. I grasp nothing as the Gods laugh. I will never hold Malfoid's hand.
>>25601607SovlYesLove is possible in this world
>>25601118I'm not sure thats really fair. The worldbuilding is more than just a bunch historal explinations for things, the social system dynamics and rules for magic. All the stuff people are attracted to is still taken for granted as part of the world. There is just not really a geeky explination for why everything actually works the way it does.
>>25600759Can anyone in the know tell me what he meant?
>>25601607I suggest you and all gosling posters to kill themselves in the most torturous ways possible (rat poison, hanging incorrectly, etc.).
>>25601894>in the most torturous ways possiblethen I shall live to please you, anon
>>25587583The later books are pretty good, the series grew up along with its readers. They aren't as tightly plotted as the first three but overall the series grew better and more ambitious as it went
>>25601894Why are you like this?
>>25599510Lmao how fuckn stupid are youThey should have made the chinese character a loud black retard and given her some retarded name like Willow, would that please you?
>>25596205Of course, every vapid twitter fad vanishes once it gets boring.
>>25596205Will they though? The one I'm reading is very enjoyable for a lot of non-Malfoid related reasons too. I might actually make a patreon just to simp the author a few bucks every month.
>>25601817Anon he's replying to is either samefagging, a tourist, or the person in question.
>>25602134Which one?
I’ll probably just wait a few years and then check back occasionally to see if any interesting fanfics have come out
>>25602195https://archiveofourown.org/series/6704161
>>25596205Impossible to tell. Considering how Malfoid has hit normal men like crack hitting the ghettos, you'd assume no
>>25602220I've got one for you anon.It's a charming one, decent prose and captures the spirit of yearning and the characters.Give it a read if you so wish>Waltz for Onehttps://archiveofourown.org/works/94458686/chapters/252153151
>>25587583>prosePseudo-intellectual bullshit.
>>25600712>>wrote in a pair of lesbians to act as a foil for the yule ball, then wrote an entirely different take on the ball itself Genuinely how? The first introduction to them is pure yurifag troonslop fetish trash. They were weird and it stuck out. I know he writes in memes, sometimes well, sometimes poorly but I do not understand the point of the lesbians
>>25600453>>25600480 is mostly correct however It started with redteneri posting female malfoy, later posting that it's not a tranny and that he won't draw malfoid as a tranny. dunno about his nationality.>>Artist on bluesky has to flee bluesky after insisting Malfoid is a biological woman and not a tranny She just didn't draw malfoid explicitly as a tranny alongside drawing HP in the first place so obviously they dog piled on her therefore she made a xitter account to considerable support after the drama flared up there.
>>25600480>fixes GinnyThere's nothing to fixThe signs were obvious for anyone not a movie-only nigger
>>25599797>implying Rowling's writing isn't fan-fic tier shit already.NGMI.
>>25603481>Implying that all works of fiction aren't derivatives of an another, fanfics if you will>Except the BibleNGMI
>>25603674>implying the new testament isn't fanfiction of the old testament>implying the old testament isn't fanfiction of the jewish book>implying the jewish book isn't fanfiction of an older polytheistic religion that got taken over by the worshippers of one of their demon gods
>>25601118>muh brando sandoHe's a mediocre little writer. Why are you sucking his dick so hard.
>>25587583They are good, one of the best in their genre. Why don't you actually read HP instead of asking 4chan for the party approved opinion?
I don't want to read the whole books again, why don't they just work on the passages they need to in a format that makes each part it's own little chapter?
They’re really good books, I can’t say why. The prose is for kids but it contains enough wit that adults reading it to their kids will laugh routinely.They’re engrossing as a kid. More engrossing that video games. I haven’t read them as an adult, I read them all when they came out though
>>25602255this one is pretty basedfantastic imagery my only concern is that having jesus christ show up is going a bit too far, it feels like too much at this point
>OCs>Nonsensical decisions>Fucking Jesus ChristGuess I won't bother with the rewrites.
>>25599645Got a link for the vn?
>>25604260https://changsikpassingby.itch.io/dracina-malfoy-projecthttps://croissmouse.itch.io/malpoid
>>25604157In the grand scheme of things, it's not very egregious and easy to brush off
>>25603674>>25603730>fanfictioning my own commentDMI.
>>25604659It's so fucking joever
>>25604652yeah, i think my main issue is that he shows up in 2/7 it feels a little 'too soon', but i think the author wanted to make it clear that he was watching harry/ malfoid as explicitly as possible
>>25604051The passages with Draco are usually very short how are you going to turn them into a chapter?
The only one worth reading was the Goblet of fire, it at least had those weird lobster creatures.Order of the phoenix was long af (couldn't get past the first 2 chapters) and six and seven are as though Rowling gave up and watched how anime characters talk rather than fight (hence why the movies take out the long ass monologues and even Wormtail's insufferable death scene), and I didn't even bother with Cursed child.Babbity rabbity and other stories is wholesome and clever if a bit an acquired taste and (fittingly) short, though.
>>25603737Nta but say what you will about him, he knows what appeals to /sffg/fags.Mainly shonen anime power systems and autistic world building
Since it is unanimously agreed that Harry Potter is average at best, what are the BEST fics for this series then? There are millions of fics, and I'm curious which ones are the best.
>>25604914Hunt around and see what appeals to your sensibilities
>>25602559I really wonder how that artist feels right now.
>>25587583Prose is okWorbuilding is infantile, which is okay while they are children's books, but becomes a problem near the end.The biggest failing of the books is their morality and ideology. The author tries to write social commentary about classism, but instead exposes herself as an extremely socially naive (and genuinely a little bigoted) middle class bong woman born in a crumbling empire, who has still on some level internalized slavery as a fact of life.
>>25604995Probably a strong sense of Yearning
>>25605061Weren't that a girl tho'?
>>25605007Begone Mohamed
>>25605078Which one? The korean one or the one that told the troons and yurifags to fuck off?
>>25605007>Social commentary on classism1. She used archetypes popular in British literature 2. You don't like it because it doesn't line up with what you think>BigotedWhatever you say. The shitskins and moonrunes were described as ethnics and behaved like bongs>Internalized slaveryROWLING IS BLAKKKK DAS RIIIIIIIIIITE ROWLAING IZ A MUHFUGGIN BLAK QUEEEEEEEEN DAS RIIIIIIIIIITEMUHFUGGIN PHAT TWENNY MIL TO DEM BAD NIGGAZ AT GRIFFINDA BIX NOODZ
>>25605114I think it was the one that told troons to fuck off. I think he/she was from far-east Russian city.
>>25605119Oh true. I saw a post from them about comparing numbers from tranny parker and numbers from malfoid, so I'd wager he'd be heaps choofed about it
>>25604914>what are the BEST fics for this series then?Mashle.>>25605007>Worbuilding is infantile, which is okay while they are children's books, but becomes a problem near the end.My thoughts exactly. It's quite literally stuffing Star Wars like plotlines into Miss Cackle's Witchcraft Academy, the setting there is just not designed for that.
>>25601607I've theorised before that humans having the ability to love something that we can never truly interact with is necessary for us to love God.Believing this doesn't make the empty ache in my bones disappear, or make it easier to get out of bed.
>>25605125Well looks like he/she knows or is at least still deep in this shit
>>25597129>>25597254why didn't volemald just use a hammer on little harry o algo
>>25606765Why wouldn't he be? Malfoid's a fun trend and posting about it makes the crybully dykes, yurifags and troons seethe. Win win
>>25606856Guess I assume most people don't check twitter every day.
>>25607488Feel better?
>>25595237look at this fag with the profile of them touching tips ahahahaha
>>25607514um no??
Why is this stupid thread still here with hundreds of replies when everything else just dies without notice?
>>25608906Yearning, brother. Yearning is fuel for happy and passionate discourse.Other threads are fuelled by bitterness and an insatiable need to be the cleverest person in the room.Yearning cuts across all walks of life. Take my hand, brother, and yearn with me
>>25608937I’m such a Voldemort. I want more malfoidxharry.
Mentioning hp should get you banned on this board desu
>>25609124Don't let your yearning be dreams then anon>>25609183Why?
>>25587583they are shit
>>25594120he's right tho. azkaban is terrible as a stand alone movie, and even worse as an adaption of hte best book
>>25595787>The better the book, the better the movie and vice versa.that's not true. order of the phoenix was the 3rd worst book, but best movie
>>25608906Maybe because HP is actually good and the blind will of the swinish multitutdes was right on this one thing.
>>25608906Why aren't you bumping the other threads but posting in this one?
>>25609183>hey look at me I'm king of 4chan!congratu fucking lations any other decrees my lord?
Books are mediocre, but the small things about some scenes do have their charm.
/lit/, esteemed faggots and unbroken bucks, which author has done the best rewrite so far?>They're all shitWhich is the least shit one?
>>25608906Love will save the world
>>25587583>Thinly-veiled Malfoid-esque threadNice try, bucko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52idaSesp8A&list=LL&index=14&pp=iAQB0gcJCSwMAYcqIYzvsAgC
>>25591675>One's a filthy Mudblood where no one can get her race right because the author didn't specify what race she belonged to.>The other is an autist-coded quirk chungus whose specific quirk is she's an autist-coded quirk chungus predecssor.For me, it's Nymphodora Tonks.
>>25612397She's boring
>>25612388Bit late for that anon. Yearn with us
>>25587613>>25587641Yaoi fangirls beat you guys to it 20 years ago
>>25612917>Fujos made graphic self-insert gay rape fics and art>Same thing as MalfoidOkay.
>>25612388Alright, that was actually fucking peak.
>>25612917Yeah, remarkably, and I know this will be a difficult concept for you to grasp, a story of young love between a boy and a girl who find themselves positioned as enemies is different from a story of two teenage boys sucking each other's cocks and putting their cock's in each other's asses and then sucking the shit off of each other's cocks. Hope this helps.
>>25587715omg i never thought of that god i hate her
>>25613119I'm sorry anon, I'm not quite sure of the point you're trying to make >>25613133>The sarcasm lmao
Harry Potter is garbage.It's all just recycled ideas that already existed thrown together.
Harry Potter is peak.It's all just unique ideas that have never existed blended together
>>25613172just like everything else under the sun kid
>>25599078I was annoyed that they used what is probably only a Korean surname (Cho) as a first name and that nobody in the publishing pipeline caught it Would have been an easy search-and-replace too
>>25613540>Expecting an anglo country to familiar with sino naming conventions Surely you're not being serious
>>25613540Actual chinese (not the ABC bananas who couldn't write their names anyway) don't really give much of a shit for romanisation because of the many systems we use and because of a sense of "do I care? It's not my language lmao"After all, would you care precisely which ideogram is used to write your name in chinese, and whether the writing is more Taiwanese or PRChinese or medieval or whatever?I personally have met at least 4 different people with my surname romanised in different ways. E.g. Brown, Browne, Braun, Braune, Bruin, Brun, etc.Furthermore, the fact that the so-called defenders of chinese culture who raised this hue and cry immediately assumed that Cho is a SURNAME actually pissed me off, because that's the LEAST likely interpretation an actual chinese would have gone for. Because when we romanise our names, we often go with the Anglo order of Firstname Lastname, e.g. Jamie Chung or John Cho. Or we introduce ourselves solely by our given names, e.g. at one point there were hundreds if not thousands of chinese running around with the name Siew Loong / Xiao Long (again, different romanisation depending on dialect), because that was Bruce Lee's (stage) name, Lee Siew Loong. And in fact every day I am called by my given name in chinese. A first glance of the book from a chinese lens would conclude that Cho Chang therefore might have been Lee Cho Chang or Wong Cho Chang or whatever.The most RETARDED possible interpretation is the one they went with. It would be as if Ang Lee introduced himself as "Lee Ang". Or if I were to complain that "this character Keanu Reeves gets Hawaiian culture wrong because Keanu is not usually a surname."Fucking virtue-signalling hypocrites.
>>25613673this is the stupidest cope ive ever read
>>25613540>what is probably only a Korean surname (Cho)P.s. it would not be unusual to romanise Zhou (the dynasty) and Chou (the singer) as Cho, again bearing in mind that chinese people don't really give a damn for Latin alphabets and romanisationSo even on the face of it, that objection was clearly done by white or ABC women who don't actually have a clue about the culture their allegedly defendingWhich, to me, is the greater insult.>>25613681So it flew entirely over your head, got it
>>25613673>All dat shitI dunno bro dogs aren't food or whatever
>>25599953> Ministry of Magic Wizards are so inept at magic that they purchase 500 Shielding hats from Fred and George Weasley (who are like 17 at the time)You need to lurk /k/ more often, they are literally Accuracy International. > Three guys who love shooting, including an Olympic gold medalist at shooting sit down and produce a rifle for fun> Because they have an idea about how rifles work, they produce a crazy good one> They have a cold one. Next morning they wake to a note saying that they submitted their rifle to a competition with the Bri'ish army selecting their next designated marksman rifle to replace the Lee Enfield bolt-action rifle, in service since 1895> Only small fry like Heckler & Koch, SIG Sauer, and Remington entered, so they have a...> They won, and now they have an order for thousands of rifles> Now the govt is inspecting their production facilities> To check if they are not three guys in a shed> They are.Moral of the story:> Ministry of Magic Wizards are so inept at magic that they purchase 500 Shielding hats from Fred and George Weasley (who are like 17 at the time)is not the odd one out from your list> only removes bad memories (IRL bad memories are repressed by your mind, enough of them and you get CPTSD/PTSD)and > Time Turners exist, but they're only used so a teenage girl can age at 3x the normal speed in order to GPA-grindare the retarded ones
This is now a malfoid thread. Any well written /lit/ fixing a significant part of the continuity?
>>25614705Joke's on you, this was a Malfoid thread from the start. Also pretty sure the Koreans already rewrote all the books with her by now.
>>25614698And to top it off>their sniper rifle gets featured in an epochal vidya as the most powerful weaponThe British Empire was built on the backs of autistic guys in sheds.
>>25615010>Korean light novel slopSurely you're joking
>>25613540bongs are infamously ignorant of anything going on outside of their island, anonit sounded chinky enough for them that they believe it to be proper
>>25613589i wasn’t expecting a bunch of bongs to know better
>>25613673>the LEAST likely interpretation an actual chinese would have gone forI don’t care about just chinathis looks like a gen-X bongette and an all-bongette publishing house hasn’t known a bunch of asians like someone in southern california mightand so they can’t tell gook names from chink names and they can’t tell first names from last namesand nobody caught the weird shitif she were Alyssa Cho or Alyssa Chang that wouldn’t have messed with muh immersionif she were Kim[berly] Cho I’d be wondering if they were having a laff
>>25615287Bit arrogant and stupid to assume that they'd be familiar with "sum ting wong" naming conventions. Are moon rune people familiar with the how and why of anglo naming conventions?
>>25615346again, I’m not disappointed because I can’t expect bongs to know betterI just got my immersion broken a bit
>>25615329>just chinaI'm not in ChinaI live in the West but unlike those>bunch of asians like someone in southern californiaI speak the language daily and still keep up some of the traditions, festivals, and customs>they can’t tell first names from last names>and nobody caught the weird shitAs I keep saying, it's not weird and only looks weird according to their own stereotypical assumptionsIt's as if some stupid Jane Burger said "uhm actually Hermione is a Greek name and Granger is French, that's like totally disrespectful, her name should really be something proper English like Boadicea McManus or summat, I should know, my granddad came from England"
>MUDblood
>>25616371
>>25587583SCORE:3,407 UKaround 4,100 US
>>25614698>> Time Turners exist, but they're only used so a teenage girl can age at 3x the normal speed in order to GPA-grind>are the retarded onesThe urge to change this part of the third book must be overwhelming for the fanfic authors. It also doesn't really help the Buckbeak story much aside from creating a false impression that Buckbeak dies for a bit. Really worthless thing to introduce time travel into your story over.Keep in mind they gave it to a girl who hadn't hit puberty yet.
>>25614705how would you have Malfoid be part of the events? Should she help out more with the trio?
>>25617090
>>25617090I think at the point where you do Malfoid being a tsundere and a love interest, you've basically thrown out the second half of the books, and you can do whatever the hell you wish from that point onward.HP is a story with a double identity. until more or less book 5 it is a typical bildungsroman, except with the magic school and jokes about british classism. That paradigm Malfoid or any other tsundere romance fits well in, you're basically reinvented Rakudai Kishi except with british people.Then there is what starts in book 5, matures in book 6, and is the entirety of book 7 and it's a christian parable with Harry being a kind of messianic figure (Harry finding out he must die to make Voldemort mortal is a Gethsemane like scene.)That paradigm really doesn't work for the Tsundere romance, and it is specifically the death eater invasion in book 6 that marks this turn, and canonically Malfoy is responsible for it. Once you wrote Malfoid in as a love interest, the reason for that change vanishes. You can write books 5-7 from scratch.(which IMO is an improvement, i'd much rather throw out Harry the messiah and have this be a story about the school.)
>>25617433>Retarded the postThis is retarded and I cannot, for the life of me, be fucked to break it down and explain why
>>25617090> tl;dr: Snape 2. You hate her until 6, then it all makes sense and becomes best characterHer closeness to Harry is driven by her need to be free of his overbearing father and oppose the Death Eaters. Therefore:> 1 and most of 2: Definite antagonist> Ginny dies at the end of 2, Ron and if Ron x Hermione was correctly set up Hermione distances themselves from Harry til the majority of 3, maybe 4.> Malfoid, now a woman has no reason to actively kick Harry, her strategy in 3 is making him a Pariah. This means the impact of Sirius and Quidditch on Harry's life is emphasized.> The Quidditch World Cup would be the Harry/Ron peace treaty> In 3, Draco is opposed to Buckbeak's execution as he realizes he's made a mustake, and her father's hamfisted ways plus that he's a death eater and she has nothing to do with that sort.> In 4, malfoid can drop extra cues about the Tournament, and obviously the Yule Ball as the crown jewel if it, first time we see Drarry in all their glory> This means Malfoid has 4 books of character growth by the events of 5, and in stead of "incompetent lackey eager to prove himself" we get: "capable and formidable witch, well-placed". That's deep recce/intel; but placing malfoid in that role would undermine the brilliance that is Snape. Obviously Malfoy's a member of tge Order, whether overtly or covertly, and is now overtly opposing her father.> So as an asset her primary capabilities are HUMINT, connections and a supply of Dark techniques.> Making Harry an Obi-Wan like Grey Jedi figure.> This means she's with the trio openly only in 6/7> Big Damn Kiss somewhere near the end of 5.> Malfoy gets disowned by her father somewhere around mid-5 to 5-6 summer.> Becomes more interesting if Malfoy has a brother 2-3 years below her because the family name must continue. As Voldemort is scraping the barrel, he's pressed early into service, by his 3rd year. The two are defined by their opposition to one another and the love between malfoid's brother and Lucius.
>>25592055Jamie, pull up our screenshots of all these leftards seething at Malfoid, please.
>>25587583as a person who read it to rebel against catholic parents, it was crap
>>25587684>Also no quiddichHarry being good at it is the reason he ends up winning the dragon trial, no quiddich my ass
>>25617683*fires up the glass barbie*
>>25592082It's just because it's popular in twitter and other normalfag sites
>>25595696introduces time travelling devices that are never brought up again besides one scene in which they are ALL destroyed lmao
>>25597299if you are 14 years old they are hilarious
>>25599826I read the Silmarillion in between book 6 and 7 of harry potter, reading 7 afterwards was like reading a baby's homework for creative class
>>25600101>ueeeeecveeeeehda kuhhhhhhdaaaaaavrawhat did ralph fiennes mean by this
>>25601033>character who is actually male but turned to a girl to fulfill someone's sexual fantasies throws some fabric representing people that wish to be the other genderhow ironic
>>25613175like what
>>25617839Tut tut silly goose>Draco - genderbent character of Rowling that fujos love, very degenerate, extremely homosexual. Not canon>Malfoid - born as a girl and beloved original character of JKR who was instrumental for JKR's message "love conquers all". Canon, very based, ends up with Harry Potter
>>25617854Can confirm this post is lore accurate.
>>25617433Harry the Messiah also ends up being pretty lame since he doesn't get to do so much hero stuff, becoming more a victim that Voldemort kills himself on, pretty much his entire failing being his hubris. Book 7 really felt meandering to me as a result, Harry just getting dragged along everywhere.You still have to deal with Voldemort obviously...if you wanted to make a really big change, I think a point to twist it at would be the Triwizard tournament. What if Voldemort fails to revive himself? I don't think it's so crazy. His plan basically was to have the weakest idiot in the world, Pettigrew, overpower Harry after he just got off from winning the tournament by ambushing him in a graveyard. What's the guarantee that Pettigrew's really going to be able to do that, even if Harry is still a kid? There is literally no backup plan, Voldemort at this point is just a creepy golem thing and Pettigrew is his one and only helping hand since Crouch Jr is at Hogwarts, unable to apparate out. If Harry simply gets out of doing the blood of the enemy part then the potion fails and Voldemort's stuck as a spooky ghost still. That keeps him as a lower level of antagonist that allows school to continue mostly as normal.I could see keeping a lot of other plot points or ditching them. Then there could still be a confrontation with Voldemort, in his own body or still borrowing one, in book 7, but maybe one that's more personal rather than a war.I kinda like it, makes the tone shift far less severe.
>>25617041>Really worthless thing to introduce time travel into your story over.The primary payoff of the time travel gimmick is Harry thinking he and Sirius were saved by his father, when he was actually saved by his future self. Harry has to realize he's got to cast the patronus himself and then actually do it. That's why the time-turner exists. Everything else is just embellishment.
any potter-like recommendations? looking for comfy magical academia kino or comfy shit overall
>>25614705Yeah, it's more than a month in already, what are the best rewrites up until this point?
>>25587625Time-turners make no fucking sense
>>25618221Seconding this. Which one is best the Guardbro one or NWBro Janeway?
>>25618517>Novikov Self-Consistency: The universe selects the single timeline of minimal complexity that remains logically consistent. You cannot change the past because whatever you do in the past already happened.>Backward CausationActions taken in the past explain events that already occurred in the present.That's basically it.
>>25619109I like Guardbro, have not read the other one though so I cannot say which is better. I read one chapter of Green and Silver, did not enjoy the writing style.>>25619115But what if in the future I saw a Patronus come at me, misunderstood where it was from and after going back to the past I just watched myself die? What then huh? Does your science explain that?!
>>25619109That Doomer guy.>>25619131>Does your science explain magic?Mugglenon...
>>25619109>Pokemonguy or whoever that isIs better but his additions of Jesus, LOTR lore and fucking Justice League shit is really really really really really fucking jarring. He's a better writer/AI slave driver than Guardbro but he sabotages his own work>GuardbroLess ai, attempts fixes for plot holes to varying degrees of success. Biggest issue with him is he's adding more and more irrelevant shit and making a bit of a mess. Some changes are really peak however. I'm 99% certain he's going to have Voldemort make Malfoid into his bride, which is completely fucking retarded.
>>25619154>I'm 99% certain he's going to have Voldemort make Malfoid into his bride, which is completely fucking retarded.He is hinting at it being a threat, I somehow doubt he'll actually follow through with a rape scene or anything like that. I agree it's unnecessary though. Might just end up being a reason for something else. The elder Malfoys eating the dirt maybe?Am I coping? I think I'm coping.
>>25619146>That Doomer guyI'm pretty sure he posts here, either that or he stole some other anon's ideas.
>>25619162This is a thread for idea stealers.
>>25587583Good enough to get the U.S. DoE seal of approval.
>>25619209I like Malfoid but that is ABSOLUTE clown world.
>>25619217Lean into the crazy anon. It will do wonders for your mental health.
>>25619160>Am I coping? I think I'm copingYou and me both. When he added in the two OC lesbians and spent a couple paragraphs on them going at it, I started desperately coping and hoping. >Dude epic pay off!Didn't matter in the end, becomes a moot point
>>25619217>Anon doesn't know that those accounts are specifically run by zoomiesNGMI
>>25619154at the very least nwb is aware about the crossovers being a little too much and dialed them back in 3, so iirc in his story they're just things that exist but ultimately have no bearing on the story and mostly just exist for fluff and to help flesh out the worldi do think jesus showing up in the chamber was a little extreme though, i get what he was going for but having the whole ass jesus h christ just chilling there in 2/7 feels too much too soon
>>25595263when was that? I must not have been sentient then
>>25619529He'd be much, much, much better served not having references to stuff like that at all.Unless it's Jesus, where it's not outright stated and it's a blink and you miss it line. It comes off as trite and corny otherwise, like there's no gravity to it.
>>25619529>i do think jesus showing up in the chamber was a little extreme thoughHoly kekOk, I'm skipping that rewrite until someone re-rewrites it to do away with all the guest stars
>>25619160>rapeWon't happen cause Ai won't gen it
>>25596233Chronicles of Chrestomanci by Diana Wynn Jones, the same lady who wrote Howl’s Moving Castle. They are comfy, and Rowling almost definitely lifted elements from them to write HP. Hope you appreciate me going through the captcha to gift you this knowledge
>>25619217You are the clown.A subtle, tasteful, plausibly deniable reference to a hyper popular meme on social media is perfectly reasonable behavior from a public relations account.Clown world is calling men women, it's calling the BLM riots "mostly peaceful" and calling the January 6 protest and glowop an insurrection.
>tfw when you find Guardbro's lesbian fetish series Emily BronzeI knew his vibes were weird. Those oc lesbians were so goddamn weird, with how they were introduced and how they behaved.Guardbro will torpedo his rewrite into fetish shit. Awesome. Love to see it. Very cool. Cannot wait.
>>25620236In some sense it gives me hope for doing my own since everyone who's so far ahead of me is running towards a cliff.
Malfoid /tv/ threads keep getting nuked, get ready for an influx of tourists.
>board called literature>No one discusses literature doomed
>>25620463Fools rush in. Here's to another fic that's been lovingly crafted with care for the craft. I'm rooting for you anon
>>25614705malfoid my queen
