not interested in larpers replying, I also don't want to hear stuff from honmoders (whether 'full-time' or otherwise). I obviously don't also care about the experiences of 'cis men on HRT', people who are fine with manmoding or other faketroonswhy do you manmodehow well you do passdo you malefailplanning on getting surgeries?how do you hide your breastsany plans for the future?I'm already three years into manmoding, never malefailed and being in a precarious situation I couldn't even voice train or anything despite the fact that I hate my voiceI want to move to a different country since I'm extremely afraid of my parents and I'm afraid of being discovered or even getting FFS (despite me wanting it) because of how my parents would react. I am pretty mentally ill now
>>45179370ive been on hrt for 9 years and only girlmoded for a few months before I got humiliated back into manmode. I very rarely malefail (6')I have srs and ffsmy boobs never really grew, I do nothing to hide themin the future I plan to get another round of ffs, BA and maybe start girlmoding. I need a job first to fund this
>>45179370i've been manmoding for 2.5 years as i still have facial hair to remove. i hide my boobs by fucking my posture and crossing my arms. i want ffs but am scared of my family's reaction. i voice train in private. i've never malefailed and don't own any women's clothing or makeup
>>45179402how did you get SRS without RLE? a lot of surgeons seem to require that>>45179470same
>>45179370>no>cant pass>cant>once, to a nun>yes>bra>no
>>45179370almost 7 years here>comfy>not at all people, can tell exactly what I am (amab on hrt)>not in years>srs>I don't>staying the course and trying not to dieI've gotten some harassment but it's mostly just been people defaulting to he/him and treating me like a man, it has its perks
>>45179680Idk they never asked.
>>45179370do u want to hear from an ex-manmoder?
>>45180068sure
>>45180073>why [did] you manmodeI started late (30 yo), and HRT didn't do much except softer skin and moobs.>how well [did] you do passI didn't pass at all. Masc face structure, wide shoulders, narrow hips.>[did] you malefailI never malefailed.>planning on getting surgeries?I got FFS after year 4. I 'manmoded' for a year since my face got feminized but my body was pretty masc. Face got more fem but with moidface and moid body I looked more andro. 1 yr post ffs I started andro/girlmoding, like wearing makeup and more fem clothing. I got BA 1 yr post-ffs. So now I girlmode full time in public.>how [did] you hide your breastsWide upper chest, small breasts = just used a sports bra and loose-fitting overshirt or hoody.>any plans for the future?I'm not out at work (I wfh) so I just kinda androface with malevoice and I think people notice but we don't talk about it.
>>45180073>>45180209I guess I should add that post-ffs/more effort I get told I pass and I don't get looks or anything in public when I use womens restrooms or anything, so I think I pass well enough now if I don't use voice. But before FFS I would never dream of using womens restrooms or anything like that.
>>45180230well I'm probably going to manmode forever because I don't want to honmode and I'm 6'2 so that kind of makes passing impossible
>>45180278it's not a bad plan but be open to revising it as time goes on, for your own sake
>>45179402I think you like being a guy with a female anatomy. I think it's really hot
>>45180290honmoding would mean accepting my fate but I don't want to
>>45180306well you don't really have to quite yet, or ever, but manmode might not go the way you expect or plan forI planned to keep it concealed and try to stealth manmode indefinitely when I started (at 30 like an above poster) but the effects were quickly visible so that went out the window, but I still decided to stick with a masculine persona and presentation even while being visibly trans and stopped stressing about trying to hide what I am and that's worked out well for me in terms of comfort so I have no plans of changing that
>>45180304no I really want to stop manmoding but im pretty depressed (probably from manmoding) and I can barely function day to day, much less learn makeup, voice training, female (and not massively autistic) mannerisms, hair styling, and fashion.
>>45180318how do you know you're visibly trans
>>45180342the comments and looks I getI've faced some harassment but it's rare, people are mostly cool but like... you can tell that they can tell (not everyone can)
>>45180306It's interesting, if you live as a woman after having SRS all the time for most of your life and only recently started getting clocked, because of all of the media attention, could I manmode, even though, I never felt I needed to before?
>>45179370>why do you manmodeBecause I'm a coward who can't handle even the idea of indirect passive aggression, let alone direct confrontation in public. If somebody were to approach me and treat me like the nonpassing tranny I am, I'd have a very bad breakdown. Even the idea of somebody politely pitying me makes me want to cry. I'm about 6ft tall with broad shoulders and hair removal still hasn't completely cleared my face, so those are other reasons. I'm also very anxious and socially awkward, so I don't know how to act around anybody and the extra scrutiny of trying to pass as a woman makes me want to cry even more. I'm almost 30 years old and still struggle.>how well you do passI don't, but manmoding also does not help. When I've posted pictures, a couple people have said I look like an older alt woman, but everybody irl treats me like an old man and sirs me. I have a twink body at least, but nobody sees me with my clothes off so that doesnt matter anyway.>do you malefail I've malefailed once ever, recently, but it was sitting down in a dark movie theater from 20ft away.>planning on getting surgeries?Had orchi 1yr in and FFS recently at 3yrs HRT. Not planning any more physical trauma, except maybe a hair transplant in a couple-to-few years.>how do you hide your breastslol. My chest was way bigger when I used to work out and had pecs. I don't have to wear a sports bra unless the shirt is thin.>any plans for the future?I want to ease into honmode a little by getting some women's clothes that actually fit my weird male body and start voicetraining soon. Maybe I can get by as a hag if my voice passes somewhat.
>>45180349what does it mean then that i've been on e for 3 years with good levels and never had any comments or looks and no malefails
>>45180327I'm beginning to understand; I'm sorry that I come across too bluntly. I have lived the presented as a woman most of my adult life but I think I made a big mistake cuz I really think I would have been much happy being gay I hate women's clothes in the passion I mean I never wear them I wear mostly jeans from women's departments of course. I do wear mostly sweatshirts for either sex general store departments. I wish I would pass for a FTM transgender man
>>45180391it doesn't mean anything
>>45180318I've already been on HRT for three years and literally no one has said a thing, I'm also around people who are very transphobic and would definitely make it known to me that they hate mepeople also ask me about whether or not I have a girlfriend, stuff like that which I assume people wouldn't ask if they knew. I also get some comments from relatives about my masculinity, height, behavior, stuff that I think people wouldn't tell you if they knew you were transI get sometimes some seething reactions if I don't do masculine things from people but I think that's just hatred of feminine menlike literally nothing has changed, I haven't malefailed ever. I only really need to bind, that's it
>>45180327don't engage with the weird sissy boomerhon bro
>>45180392there are many many cis women who only wear unisex style clothes
>>45180399>stuff that I think people wouldn't tell you if they knew you were transactually... I started getting a LOT more of this early in my transition, like people were trying to "save" me from trooning out or somethingit's sick, I'm sorry, but you've been clocked
>>45180400I mean it seemed like a normal question. I don't really think its hot. Its not like anyone can tell anyway
>>45180401stop engaging with the creepy sissy boomerhon please for all our sakes
>>45180401I know but to be honest I can tell by the way men look at me they used to smile more like they do when they see what woman now they're not doing it and it looks sometimes like they're a little bit angry. Also, I really don't like living as a woman I hate to admit to myself but I do feel I have a lot in common with transgender men
>>45180396it means i'm not visibly trans, just a man
>>45180352it is pretty soul-crushing, mens clothing also just sucks and makes you look manly. I hate that I can't voice train for example and have a more feminine voice in manmode>>45180370I'm also a big coward too
>>45180424lolok, tranny
>>45180278That's fair. I probably wouldn't have stopped manmoding except for FFS. If you can, try to plan around saving for surgery or getting a job w/ insurance - I know it's out of reach for a lot of people but at least give yourself some remote hope, you know?Also voice train in private/online if you can. It can do a lot.
>>45180444I don't think I worry about as much as you. The only time I'm out in public it's when I go to the store or not somebody talking up and beat me up I buy some of the store. I had to work for a living to be different?
>>45180413I strongly doubt it, I think I've just started noticing it more or being offended more by itI really hate this shit that people do
>>45180447Do you think you look so much better, where are you and your transition?
>>45180479gb2>>>https://www.susans.org/
>>45180485You should take your own advice
>>45180452I'm not an American so insurance is not a thing for me, I'll just try to save up money I guess
>>45180492no thanks, honyou creep me out and can't read
>>45180499chuddie?
>>45180507yes, this poster gets on my nerves when they show up in /mmg/ and I see them in other threads too, they refuse to lurk or try and understand the local culture and come by to do their weird humblebragging bit just because they had to go through RLE or whatever
>>45180521I seriously think you have any confuses somebody else. I was a gay boy who transitioned early advice and have regretted it ever since
>>45180521look at the OP post:>people who are fine with manmoding or other faketroonsyou yourself have said that you are fine with manmoding, while this thread is for people who are not fine with it, so how about you stop giving advice when you are specifically told not to?
>>45180370only relatable post itt, i am driven solely by crushing shame, agreeableness, inhibition and a desperate desire to conform to the greatest extent of my abilities
>>45180546how about you suck my dick?
>>45180555you ruin every thread, no one likes you and you dated and abused a goblin lmao
>>45180447what? i'm saying hrt hasn't made me visibly trans as nobody has commented or looked at me funny in 3 years
>>45180585cry about itmy only point was that the OP should consider that manmoding doesn't have to be permanent and you can work your way out of it, nothing wrong with that (and tangentially reeing at the husstuss sissy stereotype)
>>45180585See, it's not me it's this other guy. I really come to ask questions and look for answers not to play games
>>45179370>why do you manmodecan't pass yet>how well you do passvoice, hair, body - quite good.face? lol not at all, not even by a long shot.>do you malefailyes, from behind or over the phone. rarely if someone sees my face.>how do you hide your breastsI dont, for the most part. Larger clothes but otherwise i dont quite bother. they're not big enough to be that noticeable.>planning on getting surgeries?>any plans for the future?yes, saving $$ for FFS.and hopefully a cosmetic revision for my srussy.
>>45180593I wouldn't be a legitimate question to ask if anyone like manmoding
>>45180592and that doesn't mean you're >just a mantranny
>>45180630yeah but i'm talking about how others see me, 3 years with good levels, laser and hair grown out and not a single person has treated me as anything other than a man
>>45180630You say tranny like it's an insult! Is it really the worst thing in the world you could be?
>>45180659nta but if you have a hypermasculine face people won't be able to tell
>>45180493Remember that there are surgeons in like Latin America who do just as good work without being as expensive as the US. Not that it becomes cheap, ofc
>>45180749that's pretty much my only hope, there is no possible way I could save up 100k for a good American surgeon
>>45179370If I had a partner that looked like this, I would love them so much. I'd treat them so well and make them laugh and make them feel good. alas.
>>45179370manmoder of 10 years>why do you manmodeso that i can avoid thinking about being a tranny>how well you do pass5'5" with somewhat androgynous face. more or less pass as a woman to random people even in male clothes, until they hear my voice. friends i'm not out to can unconsciously tell i'm estrogenated.>do you malefailalways or at least they can't tell>planning on getting surgeries?orchi and ffs>how do you hide your breastsnever grew>any plans for the future?earlier in the year i tried to get off hrt and failed. i started voice training now and i'm going to stop manmoding if i can get a nice voice.
>>45182978>more or less pass as a woman to random people even in male clothesthat's me except i'm 5'8 and had ffs, i manmoded for like 15 years before socially transitioning, i get misgendered like once a year maybe which always makes me spiral. i guess i'm more of a honmoder tho>>45179370>how do you hide your breastsnever did, "it's just gyno bro". it's not like i had friends and strangers don't give a fuck, and i wfh
>>45179370Im 3 yrs manmoding yesterday but idk if that counts as a long time. >why do you manmodeIm 6'2 and look and act like a man so not really a choice >how well you do passI've never malefailed but I've woketards ask my pronouns after avoiding gender language talking to me. Its either that or sir.>planning on getting surgeries?Id like to but I'm broke so 5 yrs minimum if I happen to start to magically afford more than rent>how do you hide your breastsThey're small enough where a sports bra and an under shirt is enough >any plans for the future?Smoke and drink everyday after work until I kick the bucket.Overall shit experience and I'm not happy. Wish I was normal man instead of this weird creature I've become.
>>45183023 I perhaps was the same,but for the past 20 years I believe I've passed even though people knew I was transgender I believed I passed because I was really delusional enough to believe it
>I am an ugly manbeast>no>no>maybe orchiectomy one day, sounds convenient, but I doubt I'll ever be able to>I am fat>no. maybe one plan, but knowing me I will fail at that too
>>45183023>i manmoded for like 15 years before socially transitioningrare to see someone that's been at it for longer than i have. i regret manmoding for so long though. i could have voice trained earlier and stopped manmoding as soon as i started malefailing. but i never really internalized that i could pass because i don't pass to myself.