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    >pay 100k for ffs
    >they do THIS
    lol come on
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    >>45179028
    >Rossi
    >Argentina
    Brazil, Colombia, or Mexico, those are the three places you go if you want a good surgery in Latam.

    Who the hell said that Argentine doctors or engineers were any good? Rossi is a terrible surgeon; that’s been known for years. The same goes for DiMaggio.
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    >>45179028
    there is a genuine issue with a lot of surgeons claiming they can do forehead reshaping but not having adequate training imo. it's a pretty complex operation and when botched can have serious long-term side effects. i see way too many cases where people have structural damage afterwards like sinus holes etc which is a bit scary to me.
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    >>45179028
    how many times are we posting this fucking picture? mind if I take over and post it tomorrow?
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    >>45179045
    argentinians are so poor they eat stray dogs to survive. naturally their surgeons must be world class!
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    >>45179055
    Meanwhile I went to a good US surgeon, my new forehead feels just like my old forehead except shaped differently. They didn't even need any hardware for my type 3 setback. I only needed opiates for a day and the pain was minimal.
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    >>45179084
    Who did you go to nona
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    >>45179084
    was it keo
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    >>45179045
    What surgeons in Mexico have good reputations?
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    >>45179127
    Brazil's got facial team, Colombia has loads of decent unknown ones, and Mexico's got Baez for ffs and Carlos Guerra for srs. That's about all I've got, desu.
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    >>45179503
    >Facialteam
    >Good
    Holy shit lol my sides
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    >>45179028
    facial team and rossi are butchers
    they either dont do shit or destroy your face
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    >>45179503
    >Brazil's got facial team
    only for latinos
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    >>45179509
    People are so split on it, honestly, it half feels like a psyop at this point, but at the end of the day, I've decided to just go with Baez. I definitely need my nose and forehead sorted out. Coming from a less well-off part of Europe, my options are pretty much the usual; stay in Europe, go to Facialteam, or look at South Asia or Latin America. I mean, I could afford to go to the US, but only for the dodgy surgeons. Baez just seems like a really solid shout, and his results are dead consistent. Might stick a post up on reddit about it all in a few months' time
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    >>45179555
    serious? how do u know?
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    >>45179115
    nta. but i went to keo for forehead, he does use hardware but it's dissolvable
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    >>45179610
    How much did dat cost nony
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    >>45179576
    they charge something like $15k for full ffs and they don't want to raise their prices to avoid having 10 year long waitlists because of international patients
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    >>45179509
    they don't make you look like a model, they just make you less manly. I don't see what's the problem with that
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    >>45179681
    did they switch to bone cement yet?
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    Is Facial Team a good option?
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    >>45179735
    I see a lot of people make fun of it mostly for being really conservative in how much they cut away. some people pay thousands and then they're like I look exactly the same wtf
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    >>45179028
    >pay butcher to butcher you
    >they butcher you
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    >>45179735
    If you're already a passoid, yes, they'll make you slightly more feminine. If you're a facehon they'll take your money, cut you open and not actually do anything. Go find an aggressive surgeon whose sole passion in this world is carving slabs of tranny canvas into effigies of his surged up wife.
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    >>45180085
    >they'll take your money, cut you open and not actually do anything. Go find an aggressive surgeon
    kek
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    >>45180165
    desu that chin is pretty good
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    >>45180165
    is this supposed to be a bad example? she's passing + pretty
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    >>45180165
    Better but still clocks male
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    >>45180645
    no? it's supposed to be a good result and to show how aggressive they can actually be
    >>45180685
    insane
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    >>45180165
    looks like tamara from the recent h3 drama
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    >>45180706
    If you think she looks cis you're insane.
    Amazing chin work but her midface is a bigger problem
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    >>45180743
    retard alert
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    >>45179028
    >Rossi
    >100k
    No, the point of him is that you pay 15k and pray he doesn't fuck up.
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    >>45180743
    ok
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    >>45180754
    100k is mardi price
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    >>45180785
    Mardi who misgenders you and then botches you lol
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    >>45180805
    ye
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    >>45180165
    Wow that's great work actually
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    >>45181082
    >Good work
    >Look inside
    >Still unhappy with appearance
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    >>45180805
    kek
    >be mardi
    >get 100k
    >for botching a tanny
    >you hate trannies
    >they pay you to inflicting them damage
    he's living in heaven
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    >>45179028
    genuine body horror jfc
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    >>45183014
    he's really nice actually im seeing him next year for my ffs, it was less than 75k
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    also everyone hates trannies be so fr
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    Argies will shit on the floor because they too lazy to walk to the toilet. Their work ethic is "whatever idgaf" and their skills at their craft is akin to toddlers. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with them
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    >>45179059
    Stray dogs for the Argentinians, condom pizzas for the Venezuelans
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    >>45179503
    Didn't baez have a few patients die intraop
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    >>45180085
    >Go find an aggressive surgeon whose sole passion in this world is carving slabs of tranny canvas into effigies of his surged up wife
    lmao who is this
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    >>45183164
    Deschamps-braly
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    >>45183170
    this her? dang
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    >>45183186
    Yeah, he's the single most expensive srs surgeon in the world.
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    Ffs*
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    >>45183170
    >>45183186
    Looked up his work.
    Am I wrong for preferring the before? After's not bad at all, but before has more character.
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    >>45183251
    wait shes trans?
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    >>45183254
    Fuck, didn't realize it was just the before...
    Yeah. There's a video. She's pretty vocal fried up. No one's perfect.
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    >>45179045
    I never thought abt doing health tourism for FFS and shit. My parents do all their dental work in Colombia, any nonas know a good clinic and how much they charge? Very interested in this.
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    >>45183071
    >it was less than 75k
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    >>45179576
    nta but I saw on their IG a few years ago that they only take patients who live in LatAm (to keep prices low as >>45179672 says)
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    >>45183262
    the after is way hotter
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    controversial take but i dont think these men deserve 30 million dollars a year or more than 200k per workday after expenses for what they're doing. they form a completely unregulated tranny surgery monopoly and justify their immense greed by claiming they're rightfully entitled to charge this much because they control the entire supply. they're a cartel. they should all charge 10 times less at maximum. they're blatantly exploiting us and getting rich off of hoarding life saving medical care over our heads until one of us manages to jump up high enough to afford it. every innocent sister who kills herself without getting ffs or srs is blood on their greedy jewish hands. they've all betrayed their hippocratic oath.
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    >>45183419
    This is why we need socialism
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    There's a few blue states where all trans surgeries are covered
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    >>45183427
    Money is the only thing that motivates these surgeons to perform FFS; socialism does not account for minorities, without money to motivate people to do something, FFS would not exist.
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    >>45183444
    true
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    >>45183444
    the revolution leaves nobody behind, comrade
    welcome to the transhevik party sister
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    >>45183444
    Money can and does exist in a socialist economy, such as in China (and yes, China is socialist https://medium.com/@NiaFrome/china-good-1dc6c9f9b39f)
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    >>45183508
    market socialism is whatever the current thing is, but with free healthcare, or something
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    >>45183508
    modern china is fascist
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    >>45183520
    erm, based??
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    >>45183520
    You are a postmodernist who thinks that words can mean whatever you want them to mean. Either that or you're ignorant of the meaning of the word "fascist". So which is it?
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    >>45183444
    There are those (such as DB) who do it because they're genuinely passionate about it (and who therefore would continue to do it even without a monetary incentive, as long as their basic needs were met)
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    >>45183572
    He literally does 5 surgeries a week he's bound to burn out, especially without profit incentive. His quality has already tanked within the past few yrs
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